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    Do you realize that PG himself said the exact same thing in the post game?
    Said what?

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    Dance with one that brought ya.
    It kinda looked like Monta was break-dancing every time he handled the ball.
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    Cleveland is like the Legion of Doom. Unfortunately, there's no Justice League to counter them.
    There's the Justice League ( Warriors ) or the Avengers ( Spurs ).

    The Pacers are like Justice League Antarctica ( you get a +1 if you have any idea about ).....the sad, cast off rejects of the Justice League that are assigned to protect the most desolate continent in the world.
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    Reggie was more vocal than people think. And he never mentally fell apart on his guys like Paul did.

    Paul gets the criticism because he thinks he is that guy, or that he must be that guy.

    If he wants to take the Kawhi Leonard approach he can, but he doesnt.
    So are you saying that Reggie never said publicly that he needs the last shot. As in - "in a situation like that, I need the last shot"

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    I also disagree with PG 'mentally falling apart' on his guys. What does that even mean?

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    Soul crushing loss....

    I might think of more to say later but that is all that resonates right now.
    Thank god they got rid of that awfull Frank Vogel, right?

    I'm expecting the players, coach and Bird be help accountable for this fiasco
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    Anyone criticizing PG is foolish.

    Yes, he could improve his body language at times (when he's not getting calls), but other than that he nearly put up a 36 point triple double last night.

    He played 45 minutes last night (tied most with LeBron in the game) and was probably guarding the best player in the game 60-70% of the time (splitting the remainder with Thad).

    Bird needs to use first round picks, whatever he can at his disposal (even Turner) to find a legit NBA star next to George. Not a fringe all-star talent like Teague, not a Brook Lopez, an NBA star in the Gordon Hayward, Jimmy Butler, or Melo (although I wouldn't trade Turner for Melo). Find two stars and then see if you can find gritty hard-nosed, role players to surround your two stars.

    I'm simply tired of watching Monta Ellis play losing basketball for us. He needs to go.


    Absolutely! Paul's averaged what 31 ppg this series? While being double and at times, triple teamed? His playoff average versus Toronto last post-season was what 23 ppg? He's pretty much blown that out of the water this series against a superior defender in Lebron. Whether we lose this series or not, it doesn't change the fact that there are positives here.

    We've held the largest lead of the series at 28 points.
    Paul's numerous dunks in this series PROVE that he is ALL - THE - WAY back.
    Lebron has played godly basketball and yet, the Cavs have not beaten us by more than 6 points in any of the 3 games.

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    Ive been pro Jeff Teague trade all year but this series is making me re-consider. We really needed his steady hand last night at the point. And he also wouldn't be Kyrie's doormat.
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    But far superior to that in importance is Lebron James.

    Last year's team would have been stomped by the Cavs just like this year's team, while I firmly believe that this year's team could go toe to toe with Toronto.
    Ehhh.... yeah, I really disagree, especially with that last part of your post.
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    Can anyone confirm that Peck did indeed make it out of the Fieldhouse? I was expecting a one hell of an odd thoughts this morning, but now I'm just plain worried. Last night was truly a PFFL-inspiring performance. Does PD have some sort of Amber Alert???
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    Ehhh.... yeah, I really disagree, especially with that last part of your post.
    I think we've played good enough to go toe to toe with any other team in the east.
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    So are you saying that Reggie never said publicly that he needs the last shot. As in - "in a situation like that, I need the last shot"
    Didn't Reggie basically say he was frustrated at not getting the last shot when Smits hit the game winner against Orlando?

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    Said what?
    That he lost focus and just watched everything unravel.
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    Although Lance was part of the initial push, he was left in too long and got cocky. Not blaming this on Lance, that's just part of his personality, this is where the coach, Nate, should come in and balance it out. Putting in players and putting players out, is what seems like an artform in the NBA. For example, last night, Kyrie and Love were playing horrible so they stayed on the bench. They got a chance again in the 3rd quarter, but were still horrible, so back to the bench they went. Should have been the same thing for Lance/Monta/GR3 . When you're role players start playing bad let them calm down and re-focus.

    The worst part in the 3rd quarter and 4th quarter was we kept going into our offensive sets at 10 seconds. I'm not even sure what the Pacers were doing, someone would just dribble the ball, it's like they forgot how to move. Even if the Cavs were defending the Pacers really well, you can still keep running pick and rolls or back screens until some things.

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    Lance was walking the ball up the court in slow motion, he almost got a 8 second violation. Not sure what he was doing. Nate was having a talk with him on the sidelines about it I assume

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    That he lost focus and just watched everything unravel.

    What I heard him say was that they waited too long to get in their sets and stopped playing aggressive. However, I don't think anyone could say that PG wasn't playing aggressive. When he wasn't being trapped or splitting double teams, he was attacking the rim. He just didn't get any calls.

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    Lance was walking the ball up the court in slow motion, he almost got a 8 second violation. Not sure what he was doing. Nate was having a talk with him on the sidelines about it I assume
    Probably part of the teams halftime strategy: run the clock out
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    Interesting question

    I am older now so I tend to take things more in stride. But this loss would not rank in the top 5, maybe not even top ten. This pacers team wasn't going anywhere anyway - wasn't going to win this series. But in 1994, 1995, 1998, 1999, 2000 there were losses that ended a season where we had a chance to win the championship.

    LJ's 4 point play - by far was the hardest loss ever for me
    Game 4 of the NBA finals against the Lakers.
    Game 6 at NY to end the season in 1999.
    Game 7 against the magic in 1995 that ended the season.
    game 7 1998 against the Bulls - we had a chance to end the Bulls run.


    that is just 5 games from the mid to late 90's.

    How about game 1 against the pistons in 2004 when Reggie's layup was blocked
    Some of the losses against the heat in 2013 and 2014.

    No, last night doesn't even register with me
    damn, painful memories brought up
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    I think this game might actually ruin the NBA for me.

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    What I heard him say was that they waited too long to get in their sets and stopped playing aggressive. However, I don't think anyone could say that PG wasn't playing aggressive. When he wasn't being trapped or splitting double teams, he was attacking the rim. He just didn't get any calls.
    Two days ago it was "Paul George needs to deflect criticism to himself" and now today it's "see Paul screwed up and even Paul said so."

    Funny how it works that way. No matter what road is taken, Paul is wrong.
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    What I heard him say was that they waited too long to get in their sets and stopped playing aggressive. However, I don't think anyone could say that PG wasn't playing aggressive. When he wasn't being trapped or splitting double teams, he was attacking the rim. He just didn't get any calls.
    Well he said much more than that. He said what I posted almost word for word. I don't have his quote on hand but it's out there.
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    Next season I just want Paul, Lance, Myles, and a big that can rebound and defend. Really not attached to anyone else.
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    Lance was walking the ball up the court in slow motion, he almost got a 8 second violation. Not sure what he was doing. Nate was having a talk with him on the sidelines about it I assume
    After watching the 2nd half again:

    The pacers really did not seem like they wanted to win this. Numerous possessions saw Teague or Ellis dribble the ball into near the end of shotclock before shooting a low percentage shot. No one set a screen for PG who was trapped in the PnR and Lance refused to shoot it with confidence at all. While the pacers offense was stagnant, the cavs always made the extra pass for the open man or better shooter (lebron and deron were really good with this) hustled for open balls and played really hard. Lance was a liability on defense and no one could stop lebron one on one. There are a lot of reasons why brons' fg% has risen a lot this season and i think the spacing provided by channing this year is one of the better ones. Turner or whoever they play at center has to leave the rim and let Young stop lebron james from getting fouled or getting a layup by himself, not ideal by any means.


    I know the refs were really silent on the Pacers side, but the Pacers dug this hole themselves, a 26 point lead should be enough cushion to counteract negative external forces, but Pacers just stopped playing basketball.

    How much blame goes to the players and how much goes to the coach? Obviously give kudos to Cavs for revving up their defense.

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    Well he said much more than that. He said what I posted almost word for word. I don't have his quote on hand but it's out there.
    Other than he used the word "we" and you presented he used some variation of the word "I" you're spot on.......
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    Other than he used the word "we" and you presented he used some variation of the word "I" you're spot on.......
    Whether PG uses 'I' or 'we', either way it's always spun negatively these days.

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