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    Some of you love looking at box scores and stats then deciding whether a player is good or not.
    Do you think green is better than PG?

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    Do you think green is better than PG?
    Yes.
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    Yes.
    This is ridiculous. How would the pacers do with green instead of PG? They would be one of the worst teams in the east
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    This is ridiculous. How would the pacers do with green instead of PG? They would be one of the worst teams in the east
    Or maybe one of the best defensive teams in the league, Green covers for a lot of stuff his value can't be calculated.
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    Or maybe one of the best defensive teams in the league, Green covers for a lot of stuff his value can't be calculated.
    Gotta believe this is trolling. PG is a hell of a defender well.

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    Gotta believe this is trolling. PG is a hell of a defender well.
    He is not better than Green, Green can cover all 5 positions.
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    Or maybe one of the best defensive teams in the league, Green covers for a lot of stuff his value can't be calculated.
    He's on a team with Durant, Curry, Klay yet people expect him to score 20ppg. Believe it or not folks there's more to basketball than shooting.

    Green is the better defender.
    Green is the better passer.
    Green is the better rebounder.

    Green is the better player.

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    Do you think green is better than PG?
    No and it's not even close.
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    Bird: I wanted to keep our group together because in the summer, if David and Roy opt out, we're back to zero, really. We don't have that much, so you leave your options open. If we did make a trade, I didn't want to take on a lot of contracts -- because that's what usually happens. Plus, I liked my guys. They're playing well. If we keep the core together and Paul comes back healthy, we'll be right back to where we were.

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    He is not better than Green, Green can cover all 5 positions.
    Agree to disagree.

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    He's on a team with Durant, Curry, Klay yet people expect him to score 20ppg. Believe it or not folks there's more to basketball than shooting.

    Green is the better defender.
    Green is the better passer.
    Green is the better rebounder.

    Green is the better player.
    I value defense over offense. Green is a good defender but he wouldn't sniff DPOY, an all star game or an all nba team if he didn't play for a title contender.
    Green is over rated because of who he's surrounded by, he's not being held back.
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    Bird: I wanted to keep our group together because in the summer, if David and Roy opt out, we're back to zero, really. We don't have that much, so you leave your options open. If we did make a trade, I didn't want to take on a lot of contracts -- because that's what usually happens. Plus, I liked my guys. They're playing well. If we keep the core together and Paul comes back healthy, we'll be right back to where we were.

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    Agree to disagree.
    Lol PG has refused to play PF because he can't cover power forwards, end of case.
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    He is not better than Green, Green can cover all 5 positions.
    Green can't cover either guard position effectively. He is too slow. He is too undersized to defend real centers too. I mean yeah he could do a half assed job.
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    Green can't cover either guard position effectively. He is too slow. He is too undersized to defend real centers too. I mean yeah he could do a half assed job.
    That's a big reason why I hope Utah makes it to the next round and has a healthy Gorbert and Favors, I really want to see Green get punked and it will happen.
    Green is a very over rated defender IMO, good but not DPOY good. Gorbert would show him who the man is.
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    Bird: I wanted to keep our group together because in the summer, if David and Roy opt out, we're back to zero, really. We don't have that much, so you leave your options open. If we did make a trade, I didn't want to take on a lot of contracts -- because that's what usually happens. Plus, I liked my guys. They're playing well. If we keep the core together and Paul comes back healthy, we'll be right back to where we were.

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    Lol PG has refused to play PF because he can't cover power forwards, end of case.
    You are seriously trolling.
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    Bird: I wanted to keep our group together because in the summer, if David and Roy opt out, we're back to zero, really. We don't have that much, so you leave your options open. If we did make a trade, I didn't want to take on a lot of contracts -- because that's what usually happens. Plus, I liked my guys. They're playing well. If we keep the core together and Paul comes back healthy, we'll be right back to where we were.

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    He's on a team with Durant, Curry, Klay yet people expect him to score 20ppg. Believe it or not folks there's more to basketball than shooting.

    Green is the better defender.
    Green is the better passer.
    Green is the better rebounder.

    Green is the better player.
    I seriously doubt any GM in this league would prefer green over george.
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    Green reminds me of lance on our Ecf teams. He is what he is. Green is great because of the system hes in and the players that are around him. Its a whole different ball game when you know you have to score 30 a night with teams game planning for you
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    Some of you guys seriously underrate Draymond Green.

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    Yes.
    lol not even close dude.
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    Draymond Green on a bad or mediocre team would be just another decent player.
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    I seriously doubt any GM in this league would prefer green over george.
    All of this is irrelevant, unfortunately. The votes come from the media, most of whom a) lack a strong understanding of basketball, and b) don't watch enough games of other players to make their vote credible.

    It doesn't matter if player x is light years better than player y when player y is flavor of the year.

    Just like last year's election, early returns have shown me enough about the direction of the voting to know what's going to happen. The only way Paul makes it now is a miracle (ie unsubmitted votes combined with a Pacers comeback vs Cavs led by Paul......something that can make Paul flavor of the month).

    Btw, not a knock on Draymond Green at all.

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    Some of you love looking at box scores and stats then deciding whether a player is good or not.
    That's not really the point. I know how important Green is to GSW. But since they decided to team up, sacrifices had to be made. And if it's Greens numbers or Curry's one of them is going to see their numbers dropped. You can't make all NBA with 10 PPG.

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    He's on a team with Durant, Curry, Klay yet people expect him to score 20ppg. Believe it or not folks there's more to basketball than shooting.

    Green is the better defender.
    Green is the better passer.
    Green is the better rebounder.

    Green is the better player.
    This is totally ridiculous. Let's get real and look at this closer.

    Offense: First, Paul scores more than double the points. This happens even though he is double teamed by the opposition and Draymond plays off Curry and Thompson. Even though Green is going to be more open, he shoots 30% from 3 to Paul's 40%. Draymond's FG% is 41%. Paul's FG% is 46%. Paul shoots 90% from the line to Draymond's 70%. There is simply no comparison. Yes, he does get a lot of assists but if Paul played his role and had Curry and Thompson to pass to all the time, Paul would have more assists.

    Defense: Paul always draws the toughest defensive assignment while carrying the load on offense. Draymond is a good defensive player in his own right. His rebounding is going to be better because his role is to rebound the ball. Paul's role is to get in the passing lanes and keep fast guys from going straight to the rim. It's really comparing apples and oranges. I would say they might be close on defense.

    Overall, due to much, much better offensive skills Paul George is easily the better player and hardly anybody in the NBA would argue otherwise. I'm not surprised some people are wrong to say it though.

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    Some of you guys seriously underrate Draymond Green.
    The most interesting thing about Draymond is that he's been a good passer. 7 assists/game is very nice for a big. But the rest of his game is very over rated.

    His rebounding, as a big man, is only 7.9 boards. This is 21st in the NBA. Our great rebounder, Myles Turner, averaged 7.3 this year. IDK. I would just say Draymond is fortunate he's fighting guys like Turner for the ball.

    Paul is 15th in scoring and he scores far more efficiently even though the entire defense is geared to stop him while Draymond is about the last guy the opposition guards against GS. So Draymond basically rests on offense while the splash brothers do their thing. Paul George is busting his tail on both end of the court.

    So, some may underrate Green but some here are claiming he's better than Paul George and that demands some kind of response.

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