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    Trumpfters are not as proud as they used to be they know their guy is full of **** but can't tell anybody about what a huge mistake they made.

    This is like when they voted for Bush because he was gods chosen one but once he did his thing to the economy and everything went to **** they all acted like they didn't vote twice for the guy.
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    I'm not trying to be too political here....or stereo type people....but I honestly thought that there would be more Conservative folks here given that Indiana appears to be more of a Right Leaning State. Maybe that is truer the further you get away from Indianapolis itself?
    I've given up on posting here when it's clear half the thread was accusing Trump of being a Russian puppet with zero evidence.

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    I've given up on posting here when it's clear half the thread was accusing Trump of being a Russian puppet with zero evidence.
    Oh there is evidence.
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    Oh there is evidence.
    Not enough to make a remotely good case legally, apparently.

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    Not enough to make a remotely good case legally, apparently.
    Yeh, to quote trump supporter van jones the trump/russia thing is "a big nothing-burger"
    It's been about 9+ months and still nothing.

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    Not enough to make a remotely good case legally, apparently.
    Big enough to form 2 big grand jury's and for the FBI to raid Paul Maniforts house in the middle of the night.
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    Yeh, to quote trump supporter van jones the trump/russia thing is "a big nothing-burger"
    It's been about 9+ months and still nothing.
    According to reports they actually got a lot in 7 months, also it is such a nothing burger that the orange clown has been trying to fire whoever is investigating his a** there is nothing for sure ...
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    Big enough to form 2 big grand jury's and for the FBI to raid Paul Maniforts house in the middle of the night.
    Roughly a year in and still waiting on those charges...

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    Roughly a year in and still waiting on those charges...
    Patience my friend.....it takes time to properly and thouroghly investigate these allegations. The Watergate investigation itself took 2 years before Tru....I mean Nixon....decided to resign.

    In the end, I suspect that the FBI and Senate investigations will result in someone taking the proverbial "Fall" for the POTUS ( my guess is Manafort will end up falling on the sword....not that it would matter since the POTUS will just pardon him in the end ) and a lot of allegations that would be considered highly unethical BUT NOT illegal.
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    Patience my friend.....it takes time to properly and thouroghly investigate these allegations. The Watergate investigation itself took 2 years before Tru....I mean Nixon....decided to resign.

    In the end, I suspect that the FBI and Senate investigations will result in someone taking the proverbial "Fall" for the POTUS ( my guess is Manafort will end up falling on the sword....not that it would matter since the POTUS will just pardon him in the end ) and a lot of allegations that would be considered highly unethical BUT NOT illegal.

    Can't pardon him anymore as Muller already did the right thing and moved the case to an state where the orange clown can't pardon anybody.
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    Roughly a year in and still waiting on those charges...
    Lol it hasn't been a year but sure keep listening to Hannity ...
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    I really want to know why his bodycam wasn't on. That said, the LVMP responded last night

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/l...ial-profiling/


    Kevin McMahill, the Undersheriff of the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department, gave the LVMPD's version of events during the department's press conference, and says that he didn't believe there was any racial profiling involved in the Bennett incident.
    "I can tell you as I stand here today, I see no evidence of that," McMahill said. "I see no evidence that race played any role in this incident."
    According to McMahill, police received a call around 1:30 a.m. on Sunday about a possible active shooter who was believed to be somewhere around Drai's nightclub at the Cromwell casino.
    When officers arrived at the hotel, it was total chaos as hundreds of people were attempting to flee the supposed shooter (the Daily Mail has a picture that was taken as people were fleeing and you can see that by clicking here).


    After clearing the casino, a team of officer's started heading toward Drai's nightclub, and while they were on the way there, they located Bennett.
    "As they moved toward the nightclub, an individual later identified as Bennett was seen crouched down behind a gaming machine as the officers approached," McMahill sald. "Once Bennett was in the officer's view, he quickly ran out the south doors, jumped over a wall onto Flamingo Road East of Las Vegas Boulevard into traffic."
    According to McMahill, the officers viewed Bennett's actions as suspicious, which is why he was handcuffed.
    "Due to Bennett's actions, and the information the officer's had at the time, they believed that Bennett may have been involved in the shooting and they gave chase," McMahill said. "Bennett was placed in handcuffs and detained while officers determined whether or not he was involved in the incident."


    In his statement, Bennett said his time in custody felt like an "eternity" due to the brutal way that the officers treated him.
    McMahill said the Seahawks defensive end was in custody for 10 minutes.
    "He was detained for approximately 10 minutes and released," McMahill said.
    McMahill also added that Bennett told the officers that he "understood" why the situation happened after Vegas police explained it to him.


    "Mr. Bennett, at the scene, had the incident explained to him by a supervisor and he said that he understood and that he had no problem with what the officers did," McMahill said.
    However, McMahill did go on to say that Bennett did actually mention having an issue with one of the cops.
    "He claimed the officer pointed a gun at his head," McMahill said.
    McMahill didn't deny Bennett's claim that an officer said he wanted to blow the NFL player's "head off."


    "That's part of what we have to investigate," McMahill said.
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    One other thing that should be noted is that there's no video of Bennett fleeing. The lone video shown at the press conference only showed Bennett when he was already on the ground. With 126 pieces of video out there, a more accurate version of events should eventually come out.

    One thing that McMahill did note is that the officer accused of threatening Bennett either didn't have a body camera, or he had it and it wasn't on. McMahill also noted that he didn't believe this was a case of racial profiling because the two officers who handcuffed Bennett were both male Hispanics.

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    Not enough to make a remotely good case legally, apparently.
    I don't care to get involved in the debate, but just an observation. Both sides have shown they can keep an investigation going for a whole POTUS's term. Legit investigation or not

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    No proof though ...



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    I'm pretty sure that taking the meeting is collusion



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    Can't pardon him anymore as Muller already did the right thing and moved the case to an state where the orange clown can't pardon anybody.
    I haven't heard of this. Can you clarify what you are referring to?
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    I haven't heard of this. Can you clarify what you are referring to?
    Mueller moved part of the investigation to New York after the orange clown decided to pardon the racist sheriff, that pardon wasn't needed but it was a signal to Trump's people that he got their back if they go to jail, with Mueller moving it to New York that means that Trump can't pardon anybody if the crime was committed in a certain state (Mueller is smart AF).


    Legal experts have said Mueller may be zeroing in on Manafort with the hope that he will become a cooperating witness and perhaps turn on Trump. His collaboration with New York's attorney general could also be part of a broader effort to prompt Manafort's cooperation, because Trump does not have the power to pardon those convicted of state crimes.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/rober...anafort-2017-8
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    http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/06/politi...ion/index.html

    Trump has made good on a vow to donate the entirety of his presidential salary since taking office.
    The White House said on Wednesday that Trump selected the recipients for Harvey relief efforts based in part on recommendations from members of the White House press corps, who were asked to put forward causes worthy of his donation.
    Here is the full list of organizations in line for Trump's donation:



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    Such a great guy .... hey at least he didn't donate the money to his son charity so they could funnel that same money to his other charity like they have done for years.
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    This is way oversimplified, but say you are a low income neighborhood grocery store owner. Taxes are lowered on rich corporations. Programs like SNAP suffer. The local grocery store makes less money. Can't buy as much local produce and products, farmers and manufacturers suffer, also can't hire neighborhood employees. All the while the neighborhood is low income, so of course the lowered taxes for the rich is going to hurt them the most.

    Will the lower taxes for big corporations reach this neighborhood? Probably not. Probably raises for CEOs. As a business owner myself, I'm going to expand because I have more demand for my product in more areas, not because of a tax rate.

    And BTW, cities give absurd tax breaks to companies creating jobs, its called corporate welfare. Many of the companies don't even follow through with the job promises and still get the tax breaks. So with or without lower taxes, there are still plenty tax incentives when creating jobs.

    But these tax breaks are purely to make rich people richer. Can't believe people honestly believe that politicians (dem and republican) actually are thinking about job creators when they lower taxes for the rich. How easy would it be to pass a bipartisan law that lowers taxes only if you create jobs? It would never happen, because the job creator claim is ********.
    Lowering taxes would lower your cost, allowing you to sell your products/servics at a lower price point, which would would do what to demand?

    Thinking taxes isnt directly related to supply v demand is quite interesting.

    As far as GWB, tax cuts are a waste when govt spending continues to grow. So I'd find an actual fiscal conservative to point at rather than a democrat-lite spender.

    And if taxes don't impact job creation, then let's tax at 100%. Or are we going to admit that's absurd because it would remove the ability to pay your employees?

    Theres not a magical level where taxes suddenly get too high and impact ability to hire and pay employees. When you acknowledge a 100% tax rate for corps would decimate jobs youre acknowledging the concept in general.

    It's a balancing act. (Its also called the Laffer Curve) Denying reality is the ********.
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    I don't have a problem with someone living on the East coast making 175k using tax breaks. That's like 100k in Indy money. Like others have said, not hypocritical to expect corporations to pay their fair share when you put Bernie's situation in perspective.
    Bernie isn't paying his fair share, even by his standards. I'd like to thank you as well for proving my point that Bernie can be a massive hypocrite and have the people who agree with him give cover to his hypocrisy.
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    Not intended as a knock on Trump at all, but the American Red Cross is a pretty awful nonprofit

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