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    Obviously somebody doesn't know Israel's history.
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    Obviously Trump supporters love Jews and Israel and all that ...


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    National debt is not a problem? You make it sound good. Sigh.

    Anyway this is my last post in this thread. Too much invective for me and a waste of time.
    National debt *can* be a problem - countries have become bankrupt in the past, or have been overwhelmed by hyperinflation. The US is not close to either situation though. And honestly, as the world's richest country and sole superpower, who do you think is going to call in US debts? Not even China would, and indeed, the Chinese government has forcefully denied it when there was speculation in the past.

    As for the Israel stuff, plenty of blame to spread all around. Trump's "both sides" argument would really apply here. No angels involved in that mess.

    Personally, I think that Israel should just annex the occupied territories outright, and give the inhabitants citizenship. Not that it would make everyone happy, but it's the de facto situation anyway (for 50 years now) and would at least end the anomalous situation where the Palestinians are basically stateless.

    As to the "might makes right" precedent this would set, well no one's said boo to Putin for annexing the Crimea, right? No one even pretends anymore.

    EDIT: btw I think it's wrong to conflate Israel with Jews. Israel is a secular country with a Jewish identity, but technically it holds all citizens to be equal regardless of race or religion. This includes the Israeli Arabs who form about 1/5 of the population. Jews, on the other hand, are people who follow the Jewish religion, many of whom do not owe allegiance to the state of Israel.
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    this requires quite a bit of context, which he goes on to provide. and whoaaa is it some insane context. read the thread.

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    this requires quite a bit of context, which he goes on to provide. and whoaaa is it some insane context. read the thread.


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    Trump to stay in the Paris agreement


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    Trump to stay in the Paris agreement


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    this seems like a semantics thing. from the jump he played that "unless we can get better terms" card but both sides ran with it. and Trump of course played it up like he was actually out when he wasn't, literally providing #FakeNews.

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    People connected to Russia are paying Trump legal fees ....


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    Israel is slightly bigger than Connecticut with a population of 8 million. Surrounded completely by a billion or so Muslim people with
    millions of square miles of land. Countries who cannot even recognize there right to exist. Nations who have sworn to drive them into the sea. You think they are joking?Wanting Israel to give even more of there land to another Muslim group the Palestinians. Does that not seem just a little odd to you? What is driving this extreme hate for the Jewish people?

    Neo Nazi's and white supremicists hate Jews.

    The left driven divestment movement against Israel hates Jews, it is just cleverly masked.

    Again I ask you what is driving all this hate? Does it not seem odd to you?

    Trump has a Jewish son in law who I suspect he loves very much? Weird huh?

    Would you rather live in Israel or Iran?

    As a minority would you rather live in Israel or Iran?

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    National debt is not a problem? You make it sound good. Sigh.

    Anyway this is my last post in this thread. Too much invective for me and a waste of time.
    Stupid question on my part to anyone that may know....but isn't Trump and haven't most GOP Presidents/Candidates/Anyone of importance in the GOP have always been Pro-Israel?

    Now, I don't know if Pro-Israel also translates into being ( in some way ) being Pro-Jewish....but does this stem more from the support of Christians/Evangelicals when it comes to Israel itself and what it means from a symbolic POV?

    Does this ( in turn ) translate into the GOP being more Pro-Israel to cater to and pander to their overall base?
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