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    I was just looking at the list of Free Agents. Some really nice names. Is it wrong to think Ballard might target Eric Berry? I like Ingram from San Diego too.

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    He doesn't have to go for a home run. He needs a bunch of singles. There's so damn many weak spots on this team - even someone like Berry isn't going to make that much of an impact on D. They need like 5 or 7 guys.

    And then there's the offense ..........

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    He doesn't have to go for a home run. He needs a bunch of singles. There's so damn many weak spots on this team - even someone like Berry isn't going to make that much of an impact on D. They need like 5 or 7 guys.

    And then there's the offense ..........
    I agree. The exceptions I'd be willing to make is passing on a stop gap signing or two if the Colts could find an under valued edge rusher (good luck) or more likely an undervalued run stuffing DT. They just need to be able hang there hat on something on the defensive side of the ball next year. Find some way to get opposing teams off the field more often next year and Luck will figure out the rest.

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    I'm not really saying should they ( even though i would like to see them go after him ). I'm just thinking since he's from KC, he might go after Berry.

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    I'm not really saying should they ( even though i would like to see them go after him ). I'm just thinking since he's from KC, he might go after Berry.
    There's speculation that Chiefs have to decide between Berry and Poe. I'd prefer the big NT/QB...
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    There's speculation that Chiefs have to decide between Berry and Poe. I'd prefer the big NT/QB...
    Poe's back is shot and is going to be a crippling contract

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    I'd be pretty surprised if we dished out any massive contracts in free agency. Seems to go against Ballard's philosophy, but we'll see.

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    Based on everything he's said, it seems we'd likely stick with drafting. I'm very much open to trading down and acquiring more picks, because we've got a lot of holes on that defense. I'd be ok with resigning Jack Doyle and maybe even Adams for a year.
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    I like Melvin Ingram a lot. Great edge rusher. Free's us up to get a younger guy in a different position in the draft.

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    Poe's back is shot and is going to be a crippling contract
    I didn't say at any cost, if he comes cheaply or on a short contract...
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    Welp, here we go offseason.

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    I'd be pretty surprised if we dished out any massive contracts in free agency. Seems to go against Ballard's philosophy, but we'll see.
    He could go after "culture" acquisitions though.
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    He could go after "culture" acquisitions though.
    That's an interesting line of thought. If "culture" translates to leadership, it could be a good idea.

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    Waiting on the Art Jones release. And then him having 10 sacks for the Pats next year.

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    Good lets get Jones and Dwayne Allen out too.

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    I could see Allen getting the axe.... Between $$, production, and Doyle, he could be on the wrong end of the equation. Although how it fits in with the team and culture is an unknown ingredient.
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    I could see Allen getting the axe.... Between $$, production, and Doyle, he could be on the wrong end of the equation. Although how it fits in with the team and culture is an unknown ingredient.
    I can see it happening for the money, but Allen is still an excellent blocker and who knows if we are going to bring Doyle back. Someone could come in and give him a substantial amount of money. If we do release Allen are we comfortable with Swoope stepping into that second tight end role.

    I do not get Allen at all. He is by far more talented than Doyle and should have been able to do what he did. Did he just rest on his laurels after getting paid or did we just continue to use him as a blocker and let Doyle be the more receiving TE.

    I have to imagine we make a few free agent signings as we have to many holes on this team to completely rely on the draft.

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    This team has so many holes, that one big FA signing won't be enough to really change the defense. This upcoming season will be a rebuilding year. I would expect Ballard to upgrade the offensive and defensive lines with the draft and free agency. It all starts with Luck, and you have to keep him upright. Fix that crappy offensive line, and this should be enough to win the AFC South. Now actually having a complete roster to compete with NE, this is going to take a few years to build up the defense.
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    I can see it happening for the money, but Allen is still an excellent blocker and who knows if we are going to bring Doyle back. Someone could come in and give him a substantial amount of money. If we do release Allen are we comfortable with Swoope stepping into that second tight end role.

    I do not get Allen at all. He is by far more talented than Doyle and should have been able to do what he did. Did he just rest on his laurels after getting paid or did we just continue to use him as a blocker and let Doyle be the more receiving TE.

    I have to imagine we make a few free agent signings as we have to many holes on this team to completely rely on the draft.
    Allen is overpaid. He is paid like an all pro TE, but compared to the elite TE's like Kelce, Allen isn't very good. Disappears in many games, and also doesn't have very good hands
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    This team has so many holes, that one big FA signing won't be enough to really change the defense. This upcoming season will be a rebuilding year. I would expect Ballard to upgrade the offensive and defensive lines with the draft and free agency. It all starts with Luck, and you have to keep him upright. Fix that crappy offensive line, and this should be enough to win the AFC South. Now actually having a complete roster to compete with NE, this is going to take a few years to build up the defense.
    I don't think there's enough time left in the Brady era to build a team that can seriously compete with NE. We should be aiming to be a contender again in 3-4 years, when Brady's retired and the Patriots take a step (even a small one) back. Hopefully they won't have 8 championships by then.

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    I would expect Ballard to upgrade the offensive and defensive lines with the draft and free agency.
    Concentrate on defense. The O-line started to come together quite nicely the 2nd half of the season. It takes these guys a while to learn all the schemes and to react to each other. The # of times that Luck got hit (and/or pressured) dropped noticeably about half way thru the season. And the running game improved at the same time. Not a coincidence. D-Line, secondary. Lots of work to do there. Might even have to start looking for a RB too. But I'm good with the O-line pretty much as it is now. Sure - it can always be improved, but I'd rather see those other areas go from putrid to acceptable first.

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    The O-line definitely showed promise during the second half of last season. Even with that improvement I wouldn't complain at all if they could get a tackle prospect with real upside in the second or third round of the draft (like Clark last year). Castonzo has been really inconsistent the last two years, eats a lot of cap space at12 MIL a year & will be 29 when the season starts. Anotber solid left tackle will be be needed sooner than later and with the price tag Free Agency will not be an option.

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    Castonzo has been really inconsistent the last two years, eats a lot of cap space at12 MIL a year & will be 29 when the season starts.
    Agree - BUT - he's good enough for now. Maybe he gets better also as the rest of the line does. I think they should work on getting the rest of the team up to 'good enough'. This year - all Ballard has to do is nail each and every one of his draft picks thru at least the 5th round.

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    Welp, here we go offseason.
    According to an article from stampede blue, he led the league in missed tackles the last 2 seasons. Glad to hear we are already cutting the dead weight grigson deals.

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    Agree - BUT - he's good enough for now. Maybe he gets better also as the rest of the line does. I think they should work on getting the rest of the team up to 'good enough'. This year - all Ballard has to do is nail each and every one of his draft picks thru at least the 5th round.
    Holder said that most of AC's contract is already guaranteed, so the Colts won't gain much cap room from realeasing him.
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