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    NEW YORK (AP) — TNT will use broadcast teams featuring only former players and no traditional play-by-play men during five NBA doubleheaders later this season.

    The “Players Only” schedule runs Monday nights from Feb. 27 to March 27 and includes matchups such as Golden State-Oklahoma City on March 20 and Cleveland-San Antonio a week later.

    Brent Barry will serve as the primary host of one team with Derek Fisher and Grant Hill, while Greg Anthony partners with Kevin McHale and Richard Hamilton on the other.

    Lisa Leslie and Dennis Scott will serve as reporters.

    Turner Sports says Thursday that Chris Webber will anchor the studio coverage with Isiah Thomas and Baron Davis, and that additional NBA players will contribute to the five-week program.

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    Why?
    "We've got to be very clear about this. We don't want our players hanging around with murderers," said Larry Bird, Pacers president.

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    Why?
    I think TNT just wants to think outside the box here to engage fan interest?

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    While there is an art to PBP calls, the job is a holdover from the days of radio and is fundamentally unnecessary.

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    Default Re: TNT to cover NBA games with only former players, no traditional play-by-play men

    Hey, I'm fine with it. They gotta eat and they can no longer play. I'm not sure how much anyone will care as most PBP are irrelevant anyway.

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    While there is an art to PBP calls, the job is a holdover from the days of radio and is fundamentally unnecessary.
    Well, lets hear Rip Hamilton do some play by play and see if that's true.
    "We've got to be very clear about this. We don't want our players hanging around with murderers," said Larry Bird, Pacers president.

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    Feels like a solution without a problem. The NBA national announcers are all really good. There are a lot of terrible local pbp guys though.

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    Feels like a solution without a problem. The NBA national announcers are all really good. There are a lot of terrible local pbp guys though.
    I agree. I don't get the point of doing this.
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    Well, lets hear Rip Hamilton do some play by play and see if that's true.
    You're missing the point. Rip wont be doing PBP. Nobody will. It'll just be two guys commenting on what they're seeing.

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    You're missing the point. Rip wont be doing PBP. Nobody will. It'll just be two guys commenting on what they're seeing.
    For maybe like 10 of the 48 minutes then it'll just be nonsense stuff me or you or anybody else would say talking to our buddies watching a game.

    That Barry/Hill team seems legitimately solid though.

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    While there is an art to PBP calls, the job is a holdover from the days of radio and is fundamentally unnecessary.
    Really? I envy your lifestyle where you never have to look away from the TV or leave the room during a game.
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    Really? I envy your lifestyle where you never have to look away from the TV or leave the room during a game.
    Well, he's not a Pacers fan, remember, so he doesn't feel the need to look away as often as we do.

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    While I gotta give TNT credit for thinking outside the box, as someone who has done both radio and TV broadcasting at the high school level as a color guy, I don't think this is a very good idea.
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    Odd idea. I can't imagine watching any game without the PBP simply because I don't know every player on the opposite team. So, we go from...

    "And George steps back and shoots for the winner, and it's.... GOOD!".

    to...

    Paul George shoots
    "That was excellent shot from George. When I played for the Pacers, I used to shoot those type of shots all the time, because I felt it was on me to win the game for us."

    Ewwwwww...I won't past judgement until I see it in action.

    EDIT: Locally, that would be like replacing Chris Denari with Reggie Miller.
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    EDIT: Locally, that would be like replacing Chris Denari with Reggie Miller.
    That's what popped into my head.

    Some of the guys on the list, I haven't heard, but I just cringe at the thought of Mark Jackson and Reggie being a team and them being the only ones we get to listen too. Mike Breen, and even JVG even though he's a analyst, is a break from listening to the crap that Mark says. It's all dependent on the ex-players and their communication skills, and some are a little short in that area.
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    I think the two teams for the games are solid, but the studio crew sounds terrible. Don't know what Baron is like so I won't pass judgement there, but C-Webb and Isiah are nigh-on unbearable (and lack any real insight).

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    I think its cool to do occasionally. I hope it leads to more insight and they don't try to stick to a standard announcing script. Make it unique. Educate the viewers. Tell them the things we aren't seeing.

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    I think its cool to do occasionally. I hope it leads to more insight and they don't try to stick to a standard announcing script. Make it unique. Educate the viewers. Tell them the things we aren't seeing.
    Based on previous experience, they'll talk about everything BUT the game. They do that too much now.
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    Based on previous experience, they'll talk about everything BUT the game. They do that too much now.
    To Kstats point.. we're watching the game with our own eyes. We don't need them to talk about each play. We can see it. My favorite part about broadcasts like TNT are when they talk about anything but the live action.

    Radio is different. As far as that's concerned, we have the best PBP guy in the business

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    To Kstats point.. we're watching the game with our own eyes. We don't need them to talk about each play. We can see it. My favorite part about broadcasts like TNT are when they talk about anything but the live action.

    Radio is different. As far as that's concerned, we have the best PBP guy in the business
    And, as I said, I need the play-by-play because sometimes I'm not looking (or, as other people said, because we don't know all the players on both teams). PbP on TV is already very much reduced compared to radio, as it should be and can be, but basic description is still valuable.

    What I don't like at all is when the audio consists of a discussion of the quality of the snacks in the media room or of what's going on in a completely different game and the like.

    Give me synchronized PbP on the SAP or something as an option, but to determine people would rather hear two former players joke and pal around rather than pay attention to the game moves the "entertainment" meter another notch two far away from actual sports for me.
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    Years ago (80s I think ??) there was an NFL game broadcast with no announcers. They piped in the stadium announcer. Period.

    It made me watch the game differently. Good / Bad - I can't say. It was just once and the novelty of it was really interesting. Not sure how I'd like it as a frequent or permanent thing.

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    And, as I said, I need the play-by-play because sometimes I'm not looking (or, as other people said, because we don't know all the players on both teams). PbP on TV is already very much reduced compared to radio, as it should be and can be, but basic description is still valuable.

    What I don't like at all is when the audio consists of a discussion of the quality of the snacks in the media room or of what's going on in a completely different game and the like.

    Give me synchronized PbP on the SAP or something as an option, but to determine people would rather hear two former players joke and pal around rather than pay attention to the game moves the "entertainment" meter another notch two far away from actual sports for me.
    Counterpoint: without being spoonfed everything that's going on, it forces you to actually pay attention.

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    Odd idea. I can't imagine watching any game without the PBP simply because I don't know every player on the opposite team. So, we go from...

    "And George steps back and shoots for the winner, and it's.... GOOD!".

    to...

    Paul George shoots
    "That was excellent shot from George. When I played for the Pacers, I used to shoot those type of shots all the time, because I felt it was on me to win the game for us."

    Ewwwwww...I won't past judgement until I see it in action.

    EDIT: Locally, that would be like replacing Chris Denari with Reggie Miller.
    Reggie and Quinn would make damn good Duo!
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    A more dynamic idea would be handing the play by play responsibilities over to the mascots of each team. Minus the outfits of course.

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    Reggie and Quinn would make damn good Duo!
    Lol, you think they would? I guess it wouldn't be too terrible. I really like Quinn, and I was sooooooo glad when NBALP gave us the option to choose which broadcast to watch. I only watch the home broadcasts now.


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