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    So Paul Milsap is reportedly available in Atlanta. I think Larry should try and get him. Not just to make the team better but also to keep him away from TOR and BOS. A cockblock sort of move, heh. Anyways... one deal that would work under the CBA is.

    IND trades: Monta Ellis + Rodney Stuckey + Georges Niang + 2018 1st
    ATL: trades: Paul Milsap + Tim Hardaway Jr.

    IND acquires: Paul Milsap + Tim Hardaway Jr.
    ATL acquires: Monta Ellis + Rodney Stuckey + Georges Niang + Ind 2018 1st




    We do give up an asset (the 2018 1st) but considering our situation (Paul 1 season from opt out, Teague FA at seasons end)... this is really the time to make a big splash if you're Larry Bird. What exactly are you waiting for? If we wind up with the 7th or 8th seed and lose in round 1 to Toronto or Cleveland. Most likely Teague will move on and Paul would ask for a trade or just opt out next Summer. Er go we need to shoot for the 4-6 seeds.

    Adding Milsap and Tim Hardaway Jr. would do that. Milsap is a good veteran player who can score in a multitude of ways. Tim Hardaway Jr. is a good 3pt shooter and his youth and 3pt ability would be a nice shift from Ellis who is older and more mid-range. Er go our bench would be...

    Milsap
    CJ Miles
    Jefferson/Seraphin
    Tim Hardaway Jr.
    Aaron Brooks


    So about the future after a trade like this. We really would be in a good position. Tim Hardaway has a QO (qualifying offer). So retaining him wouldn't be hard. His QO needs to be picked up by June. Milsap could opt out? Or he could remain a Pacer until 2018. If he opts out, that's cap space for us. No biggie. If he stays, we'd probably re-sign him or not depending on what happens next season. Either way, this trade is a low risk high reward situation.

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    Default Re: Pacers Paul Milsap trade

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    So Paul Milsap is reportedly available in Atlanta. I think Larry should try and get him. Not just to make the team better but also to keep him away from TOR and BOS. A cockblock sort of move, heh. Anyways... one deal that would work under the CBA is.

    IND trades: Monta Ellis + Rodney Stuckey + Georges Niang + 2018 1st
    ATL: trades: Paul Milsap + Tim Hardaway Jr.

    IND acquires: Paul Milsap + Tim Hardaway Jr.
    ATL acquires: Monta Ellis + Rodney Stuckey + Georges Niang + Ind 2018 1st




    We do give up an asset (the 2018 1st) but considering our situation (Paul 1 season from opt out, Teague FA at seasons end)... this is really the time to make a big splash if you're Larry Bird. What exactly are you waiting for? If we wind up with the 7th or 8th seed and lose in round 1 to Toronto or Cleveland. Most likely Teague will move on and Paul would ask for a trade or just opt out next Summer. Er go we need to shoot for the 4-6 seeds.

    Adding Milsap and Tim Hardaway Jr. would do that. Milsap is a good veteran player who can score in a multitude of ways. Tim Hardaway Jr. is a good 3pt shooter and his youth and 3pt ability would be a nice shift from Ellis who is older and more mid-range. Er go our bench would be...

    Milsap
    CJ Miles
    Jefferson/Seraphin
    Tim Hardaway Jr.
    Aaron Brooks


    So about the future after a trade like this. We really would be in a good position. Tim Hardaway has a QO (qualifying offer). So retaining him wouldn't be hard. His QO needs to be picked up by June. Milsap could opt out? Or he could remain a Pacer until 2018. If he opts out, that's cap space for us. No biggie. If he stays, we'd probably re-sign him or not depending on what happens next season. Either way, this trade is a low risk high reward situation.

    Atlanta will not accept long veteran contracts like Monta's if they are serious about starting anew. This is not even close of being the best offer they will get for Millsap. At the same time, it is about the best we can muster... No, we are out of Millsap-sweepstakes.

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    Default Re: Pacers Paul Milsap trade

    Especially Toronto & Houston are in need of little extra push/upgrade to become true title contenders...

    Toronto can/should offer a package of Ross (25), Sullinger (24) & Poeltl (21) for Millsap + Hardaway

    Gives a line-up :

    Lowry, Cory Joseph
    DeRozan, Norm Powell
    Carroll, Hardaway Jr
    Millsap, Patterson
    Valanciunas, Nogueira

    Toronto upgrades their weakest link without a major weakening of the roster (Ross is good, but expendable - Sullinger hasn't played yet this season - Poeltl is one for future, not today)


    Houston can/should offer a package of Ryan Anderson and Harrell for Millsap.

    That gives a nice future player for Atlanta in Harrell while Anderson is a) 3 years younger than Monta, b) has a skillset which can always be flipped forward to a 3rd team.

    Millsap is a clear upgrade of Anderson as he can play the same role (spread the floor for 3-pointers) but bring other qualities in as well (in interior & rebounding). Harrell is playing really nice this season, but Capela/Millsap/Nene/(Ariza) will be enough frontcourt.


    Additionally, bot TOR & HOU can easily sweeten with an extra 1st-rounder.


    Seriously, I don't see us as Millsap-contender.
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    Default Re: Pacers Paul Milsap trade

    To my knowledge Houston has no interest in Milsap. Doesn't make much difference now considering Hawks said earlier today he's now off the market.

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