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    http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/07/30/...-showed-games/

    Big3: Allen Iverson no-called, no-showed games


    In many ways, Ice Cube’s fledgling 3-on-3 league has hitched its wagon to Allen Iverson’s star.

    Iverson has headlined the Big3’s promotion. He’s the only Hall of Famer playing in the league. He’s the only player-coach.

    But Iverson didn’t play in Philadelphia – where 76ers fans were eager to see him – and then missed games in Dallas entirely.

    Big3 release:

    Allen Iverson did not show up to today’s BIG3 week 6 game in Dallas as expected. We had no advance warning and do not have information as to all the circumstances surrounding his absence. The league is launching an investigation to gather all the facts and then will make an informed, official statement.

    DerMarr Johnson, Three’s Company’s co-Captain, stepped in to fulfill Player Captain and Coaching duties.

    This is shocking.

    Hopefully, Iverson is OK.

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    What a joke.

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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    dollars to donuts AI got lit at a casino, lost a bundle, woke up hungover and said screw it

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    "3 on 3? We talkin' 'bout 3 ON 3?"

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    I like Iverson but this guy is just trying anything to stay relevant

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    I hope no one is surprised. He was late to his on HoF ceremony.

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    http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/08/01/...ent-in-dallas/

    Allen Iverson apologizes for missing Big3 event in Dallas


    Allen Iverson — one of the big name draws of the fledgling Big3 series featuring former NBA players — was a no-show last weekend in Dallas. It’s an issue for a league trying to get a foothold because Iverson is not much of a player anymore but he remains the biggest name and draw tied to the league. Big3 released this statement.

    “We had no advance warning and do not have information as to all the circumstances surrounding his absence. The league is launching an investigation to gather all the facts and then will make an informed, official statement.”

    Iverson has now posted an apology on Instagram.


    The Big3 tour hits basketball hotbed Lexington next weekend, followed by Los Angeles the weekend after. We will see if Iverson attends those events. So far the Big3 has drawn good crowds and decent ratings for FS1 (not huge numbers but better than what the network drew a year ago in that time slot), but it needs stars to make this work. It’s just the way of basketball.

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    Ice Cube explains why Big3 suspended Allen Iverson

    Ice Cube knows if the players don’t take the Big3 league seriously, neither will fans.

    It’s hard to get an endeavor like a new sports league — in this case, kind of a barnstorming senior tour for the NBA with guys playing 3-on-3 — off the ground. So far the league has filled buildings and had decent ratings on FS1.

    The biggest news story out of the Big3 so far has been how Allen Iverson — the league’s biggest draw, and coach and occasional player for one of the teams — went AWOL in Dallas last weekend. Iverson has since apologized, but on Wednesday the Big3 suspended Iverson. Ice Cube explained why to Adi Joseph of For The Win at the USA Today.

    “Well, we talked about holding up the legitimacy of the league and he knows that him not showing up hurts us,” Ice Cube said. “Who’s happy to be suspended? Nobody. But he understands that it’s a necessary step in the development of the BIG3 who don’t believe what we’re doing and what we’re going to do in the future. Our league is bigger than one man, and we’ve got Hall-of-Famers, champions, All-Stars, first-round picks, and we have to think about them. He understands that.”

    Iverson is suspended for the games in Kentucky this weekend, but is expected to be back coaching (and maybe playing) in Los Angeles the following Sunday.

    I get what the Big3 is thinking — the NFL was willing to suspend Tom Brady, the NBA suspended Draymond Green for an NBA Finals game, the top sports leagues put the health of the league over the individual. Reluctantly and slowly, but they do it. If the Big3 let Iverson walk on this, the league would get walked on down the line by other stars who only show up to play part time.

    We’ll see how all this impacts ticket sales and ratings, if at all. Stars sell in the NBA, so there certainly is risk here for the Big3. But Ice Cube, Roger Mason Jr. and the rest of the management team are trying to build something bigger.

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    the problem with this thing, if they really want it to become real and catch offseason basketball eyes, is you just flatout can't have Ice Cube being the face and voice of the league's executive office. "Ice Cube suspends player/coach Allen Iverson." who the hell sees that headline and takes that **** seriously?

    Roger Mason Jr's supposed to be the commish of this thing, he was the #2 for the NBPA when he was still playing. he's supposed to bring some sort of legitimacy to the structure of the league. he knows about constructing a successful pro basketball league, in theory anyway, this is supposed to be the stuff he's there for.

    they just started this thing too big. first season shoulda been region based, all comers welcome (provided you pass a background check), win your region you get to play in season 2 and that's when you start the big media push. nobody actually wants to watch washed old dudes play ball. they'll watch it for 10 minutes, realize these dudes are retired for a reason, and that's it your "league" is dead.

    remember the And 1 tour? that thing was HUGE for a minute, made celebs outta nobodies. zero recognizable names behind it until they made themselves known, it's not an unheard of approach.
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    the problem with this thing, if they really want it to become real and catch offseason basketball eyes, is you just flatout can't have Ice Cube being the face and voice of the league's executive office. "Ice Cube suspends player/coach Allen Iverson." who the hell sees that headline and takes that **** seriously?

    Roger Mason Jr's supposed to be the commish of this thing, he was the #2 for the NBPA when he was still playing. he's supposed to bring some sort of legitimacy to the structure of the league. he knows about constructing a successful pro basketball league, in theory anyway, this is supposed to be the stuff he's there for.

    they just started this thing too big. first season shoulda been region based, all comers welcome (provided you pass a background check), win your region you get to play in season 2 and that's when you start the big media push. nobody actually wants to watch washed old dudes play ball. they'll watch it for 10 minutes, realize these dudes are retired for a reason, and that's it your "league" is dead.

    remember the And 1 tour? that thing was HUGE for a minute, made celebs outta nobodies. zero recognizable names behind it until they made themselves known, it's not an unheard of approach.
    Ice Cube needs to be on the mic saying "The Pruh-FESS-uhhhhhhhhh ayyyyyyyy yo aaaaaaaaayyyy yo" like the guy who used to be all over the And1 mic.
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    nobody actually wants to watch washed old dudes play ball.
    well this is the main problem. no matter how you promote it, this fact won't change.

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    Never going to happen

    http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/08/12/...ig3-next-year/

    Nick Young, Ice Cube want to see Kobe Bryant play in Big3 next year

    Kobe Bryant back on a basketball court, tearing up his peers like old times? People would pay to see that.

    As a fan of the man, Nick Young wants to see that happen again — in the Big3 League. That first-year league wraps up its regular season Sunday at the Staples Center in Los Angeles (games will be broadcast Monday on FS1), and when you’re talking basketball in LA, you are still talking Kobe’s world. Young, now a guard with the Golden State Warriors (yes, Nick Young may well end up with a ring), told TMZ he wants to see Kobe play Big3.

    “If you can get Kobe, man… I wanna see that happen,” said Young.

    People would pay to see Kobe be Kobe again (and they would tune into the broadcasts), which is why Big3 co-founder Ice Cube told TMZ he wants to see Kobe in the league.

    “I hope his competitive juices get to itching him and he wants to come into the league, score 50 and win the game. We hope he’ll play one day. We expect to have big names next year and hopefully Kobe will be one of them.”

    One thing the Big3 seemed to learn in its first year is something the NBA has mastered — stars sell tickets and bring in viewers. People may love basketball, they will play it, but if you really want to be a draw, you need stars. Allen Iverson was the Big3’s biggest draw this season (he was suspended last week after going AWOL in Dallas the week before, he is expected to be in Los Angeles).

    Kobe would be a draw. However, after watching him leave the sport with injuries three of his final four seasons, and considering he seems happy having moved on with his life, I’m not sure he comes out to play. We’ll see.

    Nick Young is right though, it would be fun.

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    http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/08/12/...-in-big3-game/

    Charles Oakley plans to play Sunday in Big3 game


    NEW YORK (AP) — Charles Oakley is checking himself in for the Big3’s regular-season finale.

    Oakley plans to play for the first time this season on Sunday in Los Angeles, the league says Friday.

    The former New York Knicks All-Star is the coach of the Killer 3s, who have been eliminated from contention for the four playoff spots. The team will take on Trilogy, which is unbeaten and defeated Oakley’s team in the opening week of games.

    Oakley, a rugged rebounder and defender during his 19 NBA seasons, will play alongside Reggie Evans, the Big3’s leading rebounder, and reigning player of the week Stephen Jackson.

    Oakley reached a deal last week with prosecutors who charged him with striking a security guard at Madison Square Garden when he was arrested for an altercation while watching a Knicks game in February.

    Injured Chauncey Billups will coach the Killer 3s on Sunday.

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    http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/08/12/...n-big3-sunday/

    LaVar Ball accepts Ice Cube’s challenge, will play in Big3 Sunday


    Back in May, Big3 co-founder and promoter Ice Cube jumped on the “LaVar Ball will respond to anything” bandwagon and challenged Lonzo’s father to come out and play in a Big3 event and hit a four pointer. (If you haven’t been paying attention, the Big3 league has some four-point spots on the floor beyond the three-point arc.)

    LaVar has accepted — and said if he hits a four Ice Cube has to buy Ball’s AAU team all Big Baller Brand shoes.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Lavarbigb...13949933948929

    I’m a little surprised all-talk LaVar is stepping on the court, but it will make games Sunday at the Staples Center in Los Angeles a little more interesting.

    Also this week, Charles Oakley is going to suit up and play, plus Snoop Dogg is performing at halftime of one of the games. That’s the one thing that may top Red Panda at half.

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    http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/08/26/...eated-trilogy/

    Rashad McCants jumper seals Big3 title for undefeated Trilogy

    This is a just outcome.

    Trilogy has been the best team in the Big3 through the entire barnstorming tour. Led by Kenyon Martin and Rashad McCants, Trilogy has been undefeated through the season, and they were in the title game Saturday in Las Vegas.

    Fittingly, McCants sank the dagger to get them the title.


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    Just like the last NBA regular season, you can’t be unhappy when the best team wins.

    I was skeptical about the Big3 going into the season, but having seen it in person and the results of the season, it has potential. More about that on Monday.

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    I watched about 5 minutes of this yesterday. That was about 4:59 too long. If you want to see some bad street hoops, then this is for you. Basketball ?? Hardly.

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    http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/09/05/...ideas-players/

    Ice Cube’s Big3 sued for allegedly stealing ideas, players


    The Big3 just finished its first season, and it drew some big names to coach and play (Allen Iverson, Dr. J), good crowds (about 11,000 a day), and the television ratings were successful enough that Fox renewed for a second season. For Ice Cube’s League it was a good year.

    Now he and the Big3 are being sued by the Champions League for allegedly stealing ideas and players. The New York Post has the story.

    Ice Cube was slapped with a $250 million lawsuit on Friday for supposedly poaching hoops stars — and proprietary ideas — from the newly formed Champion Basketball League…

    CBL’s founder, Carl George, says the legendary rapper and actor, whose real name is O’Shea Jackson, and BIG3’s co-founder Jeff Kwatinetz, got close to CBL brass and players only to steal their ideas and goods after their 2014 launch….

    The suit claims that “when certain players expressed their desire to participate in the CBL games, Mr. Cube confronted the players personally about playing in the CBL and threatened the players that they would be fined, not allowed to participate in the 52% of revenues bonus pool, or replaced on their teams,” court papers claimed. “These threats were also shared with the CBL.

    Ice Cube and the Big3 league have yet to comment. Although we can safely assume they will deny the charges and any wrongdoing.

    The Championship Basketball League did not play games in 2017.

    The Champions Basketball League tried to follow a more traditional format — 5-on-5 games (vs. 3-on-3 from the Big3) and the CBL has a team in each city as opposed to the barnstorming tour used by the Big3. However, both leagues focus on drawing in fans with former NBA players, and having the league run during the (relatively) slow part of the summer for the NBA.

    The Big3 got far more notoriety and had more success than the CBL ever did, how much that played into this lawsuit will be up to the courts to decide.

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    The easiest way to fix this league:

    1. Get rid of all these teams. The way to succeed is to have fans root for teams, not players. That's how you sell merch too. How many diehard 3 Headed Monsters fans out there? How many of you own a Killer 3's hat or Ghost Ballers poster?

    2. Use NBA cities. And use former players from that franchise. Indiana: Al Harrington, Stephen Jackson, JO, Eddie Gill..etc.
    Imagine Seattle having a Big 3 team. That would "bring" basketball back to Seattle. Key Arena would sell out.

    That's how you fix this. I would support an Indiana Big 3 team and watch it.

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    I saw the first "episode" and it had some high school athletics camera work. If they don't at least fix that it's done for. Even then, there probably needs to be another hook, whether it's manufactured drama or something else. The caliber of basketball I saw was awful.

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    http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/09/12/...g3-to-nuggets/

    Report: Josh Childress going from Big3 to Nuggets


    The Big3 is becoming an entertaining home for former NBA players.

    Maybe also a proving ground for those players to return to the top pro league.

    Former Hawks wing Josh Childress, who famously left the NBA in his prime for a lucrative contract in Greece, is joining the Nuggets.

    Michael Scotto of Basketball Insiders:

    The Denver Nuggets and Josh Childress have agreed to a one-year, non-guaranteed deal, a league source told Basketball Insiders.

    The 34-year-old Childress hasn’t played in the NBA since 2013, and it’s been even longer since he was effective there.

    Denver has 14 players on standard contracts, one shy of the regular-season limit, and they all have guaranteed salaries. Mason Plumlee also has an outstanding qualifying offer.

    I’d be surprised if Childress sticks past the preseason, but this is at least an interesting flier.

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    http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/09/16/...ms-defamation/

    Big3 countersues Champions League, claims defamation


    Ice Cube’s Big3 had a promising rookie season and looked like a league that could have staying power. It even found one of its guys with an NBA contract.

    The Champions League never got off the ground this summer.

    The founders of the Champions League sued Cube and the Big3 for $250 million claiming they stole ideas and players. Did anyone think Cube and the Big3 would not come back hard at that? They did last week with a countersuit claiming defamation. TMZ has the details.

    In docs, filed by Mark Geragos, BIG3 says the Champions League posted a statement on its website that was a bald-faced lie. The CL said, “The issue is that Big3 violated the agreement that players would be able to play in both leagues even though all the players had prior agreements with the Champions League.”

    BIG3 says there was NEVER any agreement between the 2 leagues and no BIG3 player was barred from honoring commitments to the Champions League. BIG3 goes as far as saying that 3 players who DID have a deal with CL were specifically allowed to play for Champions.

    What’s more … BIG3 says the head of the Champions League is “a serial con-artist, fraudster and ponzi-schemer” who blames his failures on others.

    Well, that’s direct. Not pulling their punches, are they?

    The onus falls on the Champions League to prove its allegations, and that will be challenging. More than likely this all gets tossed at some point.

    What I expect will happen is we will see next summer is a bigger and better Big3 with a few more big names attached. This case will be long forgotten.

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