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    Default Seeking help from 10-day contracts

    The easiest way to try to find some quick help to team's problem spots would be thru' offering 10-day contracts to NBADL players. At times, gems can be found that route although Pacers have never really tried it.

    There is a pre-condition that we should 1st waive at least one player from current roster (and pay rest of his contract). That would not be much of a problem as we can waive any of following :

    - Aaron Brooks
    - Kevin Seraphin
    - Glenn Robinson III
    - Rakeem Xmas
    - Joe Young
    - Georges Niang

    and only pay for this season (+100,000 for next season in case of Niang).

    Note : despite having a team option for next year of Lavoy Allen, we would have to pay his full salary for 2017-18 if we cut him before the end of this season...


    As it appears that we have no plan to utilise Xmas, Joey Buckets nor Niang anyway, it wouldn't be much of a sacrifice to cut one of them. I would keep Seraphin as a back-up 5! (not a 4) and Brooks as 2nd-/3rd- string point, but losing them would not be earth-shattering event either...


    So what could we get from NBADL :

    1) Eric Moreland

    6-10, 250 lbs. PF/C playing for Canton Charge. 2nd in rebounding in NBADL with 10.9 average. Has 11 games and very few minutes of NBA experience with Sacto but was hampered by injuries on those seasons. Injury-free now. Despite playing only 3 full collegiate seasons he is Oregon State's all-time blocked shots leader! Thrives in physical play and scores effectively on the paint. Can not shoot at all! A hack-a-More candidate who is currently making 13-out-of-49 free throws in NBADL.

    Verdict : Free throw woes make Moreland impossible to play in clutch time, but would still be a good partner for Myles. Would give us muscle & nastiness. I see him as an effective 20 mins a game guy in NBA.


    2) Damion Lee

    6-6, 210 lbs. shooting guard playing for Maine Red Claws. Age 24 and played full collegiate in Drexel/Louisville (transferred). Very good spot-up shooter but not so much off-the-dribble. Shooting .466 from 3-point range in NBADL with good volume (5,5 per game). Not even closely as good in any collegiate year as he had to create shots himself.

    Tries in defense, but still only average and one-position only. Lacks strength/athleticism to match bigger wings and lateral mobility to take on point guards.

    Verdict : Not a difference-maker, but a better shooting threat than GRIII. Could back-up CJ Miles nicely if we move Miles to starting spot at 2. Monta to back-up point. Brooks/GR III off the rotation (team?)


    3) Jordan Crawford

    Well, Jordan is (in good & bad) already a known NBA commodity. Capable of putting points on the scoreboard (averaged 10+ points for every NBA season he played). Also able to infuriate coaches, teammates and fans alike with his absolute defensive disregard and selfish play.

    Verdict : I hate these kind of players, but he surely still could help you at times of total offensive drought...


    4&5) Alex Poythress & Julyan Stone

    Our Mad Ants-specialists will probably be able to analyse further, but could these two do worse than our current end of the bench???
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    Default Re: Seeking help from 10-day contracts

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    The easiest way to try to find some quick help to team's problem spots would be thru' offering 10-day contracts to NBADL players. At times, gems can be found that route although Pacers have never really tried it.

    There is a pre-condition that we should 1st waive at least one player from current roster (and pay rest of his contract). That would not be much of a problem as we can waive any of following :

    - Aaron Brooks
    - Kevin Seraphin
    - Glenn Robinson III
    - Rakeem Xmas
    - Joe Young
    - Georges Niang

    and only pay for this season (+100,000 for next season in case of Niang).

    Note : despite having a team option for next year of Lavoy Allen, we would have to pay his full salary for 2017-18 if we cut him before the end of this season...


    UGH! That is a really $h1tty clause in NBA contracts. To get Pothyress on board I'd probably waive Seraphin. Christmas as backup center for a small ball 2nd unit makes sense.

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    Default Re: Seeking help from 10-day contracts

    GR3, Brooks, and Seraphin are part of the rotation. They're not getting waived.

    I think Joe Young and Niang have more promise than anyone we can get on a 10-day. They're probably safe too.

    So it comes down to Xmas really... if there's someone the Pacers like more than Xmas, then sure it could happen. But personally I think it's unlikely.

    I would argue btw that the Pacers have already found a "gem" in GR3, whom they picked up off the scrap heap in 2015, and signed to a team-friendly contract.

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    Default Re: Seeking help from 10-day contracts

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    GR3, Brooks, and Seraphin are part of the rotation. They're not getting waived.

    I think Joe Young and Niang have more promise than anyone we can get on a 10-day. They're probably safe too.

    So it comes down to Xmas really... if there's someone the Pacers like more than Xmas, then sure it could happen. But personally I think it's unlikely.

    I would argue btw that the Pacers have already found a "gem" in GR3, whom they picked up off the scrap heap in 2015, and signed to a team-friendly contract.

    I was specifically referring to 10-day contracts which we have not used to "try-out" people.

    Btw, while I think Niang is a fine basketball player who should have a nice career overseas - he just doesn't seem to have the athleticism needed to success in NBA. Court sense, headiness, craftiness - yes. But he doesn't even have a jump shot, he barely lifts himself to stand on his toes... There is no elevation whatsoever, he moves slowly (whether south-north or lateral movement) and so on. I can't see much NBA promise in him (I have watched some Mad Ants -games).

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