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    Wait.

    You start a thread during the second game of the season (not sure why you just didn't start it in July) saying the coach should be fired now

    oh **** why bother. not worth it
    Yeah, several people said this was a bad hire as soon as it was announced. I'm pretty sure I was one of them.
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    Yeah, several people said this was a bad hire as soon as it was announced. I'm pretty sure I was one of them.
    That is different from starting a thread even before the second game of the season is over.

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    the weirdest thing about Nate for me has been how much of just a non-entity he's been. big a prick as he was you KNEW JOB was the coach, flip it 180 degrees and same deal with Frank. Nate's just sorta...there. none of the players really mention him ever, I don't notice a lot of player interaction with him, there's zero media push with him from the franchise.
    This.

    I live in Wisconsin and *I* can feel how little of a connection he has with Indianapolis...

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    I'm just super pumped that Nate will hold them accountable after last night.
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    Don't make me read this all...
    Can we fire him?
    What will it cost us?
    Do we keep paying him for a couple years, or have a huge severance?
    Are there available replacements?

    Assuming pleasant answers to these questions I'd be all over a new head on the bench.
    He isn't very good.

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    Is there ANY way we could just bring Frank back?

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    I doubt if a coach has ever been fired between playoff games, but I'm seriously waiting for that announcement today.

    It'll never happen. And I have serious doubts that we'll replace him after the series. But right now, the glimmer of hope that I have to cling to today, is that it's so incredibly obvious, so painfully necessary, undeniably unavoidable, that he will be let go in the post-game press conference following Sunday's loss.

    If you don't immediately make aggressive changes, PG is 100% gone, IF he isn't already. Big IF. That was the first thing on my mind as last night's game slipped away. If I were him, I'd be done. I'd ask to rest Game 4, and demand a trade on Monday. I'd be completely done with this circus. It'll take the DPE contract, a new coach, and literally any player PG thinks we should chase to keep him.
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    Is there ANY way we could just bring Frank back?
    I'm sure Nate is on a cheaper contract. Magic might be willing to trade Nate plus a 2nd (Young or Niang) for Frank. Be kind of cool

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    The Magic are getting a new general manager, so maybe he doesn't want to be tied to Frank? I can't see Bird swallowing his pride and letting him admit that Nate was a mistake over him though.

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    Interesting Pop held his starters accountable by benching them all right after half-time

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    Yeah they did only because Toronto isn't that great.
    No. That Toronto team was a lot better than people in this forum give it credit for. And do you know why people in this forum don't give credit to that team? It's because most of them don't want to admit that we overachieved by pushing them to 7 that year. I'll repeat it again. We had no business pushing that Toronto team to 7 games last year but we did because Frank and the team overachieved.

    Again, let me remind you what that the 15-16 Raptors actually did. They went 56-26 in the regular season and pushed the eventual champs to 6 games. The 13-14 Pacers also went 56-26 in the regular season and pushed the Heat to 6 games. The only difference between the two is that the 13-14 Heat got trounced in 5 games by the Spurs while the 15-16 Cavs beat the Warriors in 7. Were the 15-16 Raptors better than the 13-14 Pacers? I don't know. Comparing teams from two different seasons is tricky. But I know one thing for sure. They were much, much better than people on this forum give them credit for. They were legitimate contenders just like our three ECF teams.
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    When Nate was brought on, I am sure they considered him like a cheap standby coach to get us through a mini rebuild. After that, a new coach would lead the team to the promise land.

    Instead, the combination of Bird's acquisitions and Nate's inability to coach himself out of a paper bag, may well leave the Pacers without their franchise player.

    I think this could be the cost of bringing on a standby coach. I hope it's not. But I'm certain another coach could have done more with this group. Not saying Bird isn't the root of the problem.

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    I'm sure Nate is on a cheaper contract. Magic might be willing to trade Nate plus a 2nd (Young or Niang) for Frank. Be kind of cool
    I bet Nate is one of the 3-5 lowest paid coaches in the league.

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    Interesting Pop held his starters accountable by benching them all right after half-time
    Job security for infinity will do that

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    I bet Nate is one of the 3-5 lowest paid coaches in the league.
    Going to a movie with my wife is a financial extravagance for me. But if someone starts a GoFundMe to buy Nate out of his contract I'm feeding my kids ramen for a few months...

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    I would love to be wrong, but I expect Nate to be here for two more seasons. The only thing that changes that is a Paul George ultimatum.

    He's the NBA version of Jim Caldwell. It's strange because his coaching and playing styles are radically different.

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    Can we trade Paul George for Brad Stevens?

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    I would love to be wrong, but I expect Nate to be here for two more seasons. The only thing that changes that is a Paul George ultimatum.

    He's the NBA version of Jim Caldwell. It's strange because his coaching and playing styles are radically different.
    I put the odds of us having a new coach next season at less than 2 percent.

    Saddest thing I've typed here in a while.

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    I think Vogel was a great coach while he was with us, and I think he is a hell of a lot better than McMedium, but let's not get it twisted. The reason we pushed Toronto to 7 games last year and the reason we are competing with the Cavs this year is because of ONE person.

    Paul George. Period.

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    I put the odds of us having a new coach next season at less than 2 percent.

    Saddest thing I've typed here in a while.
    I think if Paul pushes for it, we'll get a new coach. Problem is... players don't like getting the rep of being a coach killer. Deron Williams got that rep in Utah. When players go to management and say a coach "isn't working out" or "they'd like him replaced," it travels through the coaching grapevine. That player then gets the dreaded "CK" rep. Unless you're Lebron. Who got Blatt fired.

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    I put the odds of us having a new coach next season at less than 2 percent.

    Saddest thing I've typed here in a while.

    There are many things sadder than that, one of which is PG being traded or saying he is leaving. Gotta keep things in perspective.
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    Wait.

    You start a thread during the second game of the season (not sure why you just didn't start it in July) saying the coach should be fired now

    oh **** why bother. not worth it
    I don't have a dog in this fight, but people were going apeshit over the Lance signing before he suited up for a single game.

    Should they have waited to have an opinion?

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    There are many things sadder than that, one of which is PG being traded or saying he is leaving. Gotta keep things in perspective.
    "I've" not "I'll"

    Sorry, not to be rude. I'm in a horrific mood.

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    I think if Paul pushes for it, we'll get a new coach. Problem is... players don't like getting the rep of being a coach killer. Deron Williams got that rep in Utah. When players go to management and say a coach "isn't working out" or "they'd like him replaced," it travels through the coaching grapevine. That player then gets the dreaded "CK" rep. Unless you're Lebron. Who got Blatt fired.
    Some coaches need killing.

    Others are freakin' Jerry Sloan.
    "man, PG has been really good."

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    Some coaches need killing.

    Others are freakin' Jerry Sloan.
    Okay? But still when a coach is fired and feels a player pushed him out the door. That player gets "eyes" on him. Now if he fails to click with the next coach, then it's even more of a problem. Coaching fires and hires are best left to the front office.

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