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4/23/2016 NBA Playoffs, First Round - Game Thread #4: Pacers Vs. Raptors

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  • 4/23/2016 NBA Playoffs, First Round - Game Thread #4: Pacers Vs. Raptors


    SLOW, STEADY MARCH
    TOWARD ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    PLAYOFF EDITION


    -VS-



    Game Time Start: 3:00 PM ET
    Where: The Fieldhouse, Indianapolis, IN
    Officials: Danny Crawford, Ron Garretson, Bill Spooner (Nick Buchert)

    Media Notes: Indiana Notes, Toronto Notes
    Television: TNT / SportsNet One
    Radio: WFNI 1070 AM, 107.5 FM / CJCL 590, 1050 AM
    NBA Feeds:

    REMINDER: Per PD policy, please do not share a link to, describe how to search for, request a link to, or request a PM about streaming video of a NBA game that is not coming directly through the NBA. Not even in a "wink-wink, nudge-nudge, know-what-I-mean" round-about sort of way. Thank you


    1
    46-39
    Home: 26-16
    2
    58-27
    Away: 25-17
    Apr 26
    Apr 29
    May 01
    May 04
    T B D
    If Needed
    If Needed
    T B D

    MAHINMI
    ALLEN
    GEORGE
    ELLIS
    HILL
    VALANCIUNAS
    SCOLA
    CARROLL
    DEROZAN
    LOWRY


    PACERS
    None reported


    RAPTORS
    None reported





    Toronto claws into Indiana in its own home, takes 2-1 series lead
    Kelly Dwyer


    It’s as if the Raptors brought the worried weather with them. After squandering home court
    advantage in a tight Game 1 loss, Toronto swiped it right back in a dominant Game 3 performance
    on Thursday night, downing the Indiana Pacers 101-85 to take a 2-1 series lead.

    The Pacers aped Toronto’s typical Game 1 showing in its first game back home in 9 days, playing
    tight and uninspired basketball from the get-go. Toronto pounced on the Pacers from the start,
    establishing DeMar DeRozan’s wiry midrange game early on, giving the All-Star space as he
    bounded his way toward 12 first quarter points. DeRozan hit for 4-6 from the free throw line in
    the first quarter, matching in 12 minutes of action what he contributed from the stripe in 67
    previous first round minutes against these Pacers.

    DeRozan would go on to hit three more from the line in the win, finishing with 21 points. His
    backcourt mate Kyle Lowry also hit for the same number, tying for a team-high, continually
    probing a Pacer defense that hardly reminded of the No. 3 ranked stoppers that the home crowd
    watched during hte regular season.

    “They outplayed us in most areas,” Indiana coach Frank Vogel admitted following the loss. His
    Pacers lost the rebounding battle (45-38), the team shot just 38 percent while missing 16 of 22
    three-pointers, and his team could hardly be bothered to match Toronto’s intensity when it came
    to corralling loose balls and potential turnovers. Toronto absolutely thrived in the unfamiliar
    setting.

    Swingman DeMarre Carroll, starting just his second game since Jan. 3 (and playing over 30
    minutes for the first time since Dec. 3), was a massive boon. Raptors coach Dwane Casey
    credited his ability to provide spacing to the Toronto offense following the win, but it was his
    defense on All-Star Paul George that made the biggest difference. George nailed all 12 of his
    free throw attempts and finished with a game-high 25 points, but he missed 13 of 19 shots in
    the loss while turning the ball over four times.

    George added 10 rebounds and six assists, but he had little help from his fellow starters. The
    Pacer backcourt of George Hill and Monta Ellis combined to miss 10 of 16 shots, while center
    Ian Mahinmi was clearly hamstrung by a lower back strain. Coach Vogel decided to start rookie
    forward Myles Turner ahead of the ineffective Lavoy Allen coming out of halftime, and he
    responded with seven points, four rebounds and two blocks in that frame, but Indiana could
    only cut Toronto’s 17-point lead to 12 during Turner’s turn.

    Raps coach Dwane Casey was clearly pleased with his team’s effort following the win:

    “I liked our activity, intensity, our tone, our approach, our effort, and our attention to detail,”
    forgetting to list his team’s ability to line up properly for free throw attempts and the cut of his
    team’s jib during timeouts. Toronto forced 10 Indiana turnovers in the first half alone, and
    though Casey fretted...CONTINUE READING AT BALL DON'T LIE

    Why would anyone want to be an NBA head coach?
    Paul Flannery and Tom Ziller


    We dive into the muted (so far) NBA coaching carousel and wonder what's so attractive about being
    an NBA head coach anyway.

    Two NBA head coach openings have been filled as the Nets landed a hot assistant and the Suns
    looked within. But there's a lot more action to come. In this week's Flanns and Zillz, we discuss the
    job market and its associated issues, plus we have a rant about Twitter, which is different than a
    Twitter rant. Enjoy.


    FLANNERY: Is it just me or does it seem like coaching season has been a little muted this year?
    I was totally prepared for the Lakers and Knicks to engage in an amusing battle royal over Luke
    Walton. Instead they may keep Kurt Rambis and Byron Scott? OK.

    And what's with the search firm in Minnesota? Is Glen Taylor that disconnected that he needs to
    pay someone to tell him to go after Tom Thibodeau?

    All we have so far was Brooklyn making a sneaky smart hire in Kenny Atkinson. It really is a
    brand new world.

    ZILLER: I wonder how much is on hold until the Warriors have a lay-off between series so
    Walton and the Spurs assistants can do proper interviews. That didn't stop Atkinson, of course!
    The Houston job is still unavailable, and that might be an attractive one for someone like
    Thibodeau, so I could see that delaying things too. But you're right: with two high-profile teams
    like the Knicks and Lakers potentially involved in searches, it's weird it's been so quiet. I can't
    believe Rambis and Scott are the best options.

    Does Scott Brooks potentially landing in D.C. move the needle for you? Wizards and Thunder
    fans are going to have a super anxious few months waiting for July if that happens.

    FLANNERY: Man, I still don't know what to make of Scott Brooks. It's not like I was super
    impressed by what he did in OKC, but I also think we gloss over the wins too much and think
    anyone can do it. Maybe anyone can do it if they have Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook,
    but would you rather have Brooks or Billy Donovan right now as an OKC fan?

    I keep coming back to Monty Williams. People railed on him so much, but hey, turns out that
    maybe he was a pretty good coach for that New Orleans team. He certainly got a lot out of
    that roster. So I think coaches need more than one opportunity before we can evaluate them
    fully, especially if they fall into a situation that's really good or really bad.

    ZILLER: Absolutely true, and it goes both ways. Byron Scott looked pretty good in New
    Jersey and New Orleans, and abjectly awful in Cleveland and Los Angeles. How much of that
    is talent downgrades exposing faults, and how much is league evolution? The latter question
    is interesting to consider in light of Jeff Van Gundy's apparent interest in working again.
    Consider how much the league's changed since he last coached. It's been nearly a decade!

    Back to Brooks vs. Donovan: it's interesting that the same pluses and minuses arrive. The
    team is great overall, but struggles to execute consistently late. Maybe it's the roster?
    Maybe Donovan is better than Brooks, but the steep learning curve is tamping down his
    potential excellence? We should note that Brooks only had one season of Westbrook
    playing at a true MVP level, and Durant missed the whole thing.

    Let's lighten the mood and talk about race. The NBA's need for a Rooney Rule has been
    mentioned. The league has historically been more diverse in power positions than other
    major American sports, but it does seem like the NBA is getting worse on this account.
    Former NBA-level players are getting hired less frequently, and historically few non-player
    coaches of color get hired. Does the NBA need to establish rules to ensure coaches of color
    are receiving a fair hearing, or should the league remain hands off?

    FLANNERY: I think it's time to establish some ground rules for hiring coaches, and
    specifically to hiring GMs. Just because the NBA has a better track record on race doesn't
    mean that it's immune to the larger sports trends, or even its own recent track record.
    There is this notion that the analytic revolution has passed black candidates by, and
    that's the most insidious form of racism. It's not the overt stuff. It's the idea that black
    candidates are less qualified because they don't have a hedge-fund internship on their
    CV. That's a bunch of ********, but there's that a line about Basketball PhD's coming back
    to mind again.

    Look, I'm sure the Sixers went through an exhaustive search to hire the senior advisor's
    son but come on, who are they fooling? Let's open this up a little and let the sun shine
    in. It will do everyone a world of good.

    ZILLER: Amen. I know Kenny Atkinson is very highly recommended, and we don't
    know who the Nets talked to beyond him, but the trend is worrisome. Especially when
    former coaches with good records (Nate McMillan) or former players who have played
    long dues in coaching (Patrick Ewing) don't even get many interviews, let alone jobs. And
    someone really needs to explain to me how Troy Weaver, the man who recruited Melo to
    Syracuse and convinced Sam Presti to pick Russell Westbrook 4th, doesn't have a GM job.

    Speaking of our frustrations with the topic of coaching, are you as sick as I am of
    Constant Coaching Critique Twitter? It's impossible to be on Twitter during a Raptors
    game at this point because of the rampant Dwane Casey slander. I say we appoint Bob
    Voulgaris as NBA Coach Critic in Chief, give him free rein and fine every other NBA
    Twitter personality who complains about a lineup, a rotation decision, a play call or a
    tactic more than three times a game. I'll allow an exception for complaining about
    intentional fouling, because oh my Basketball Gods I hate that.

    FLANNERY: Yeah, I'd say Coach Twitter has become more pronounced this season
    and it's really exploded in the postseason. You mentioned Bob and he's a really interesting
    follow. He's got a lot to say and I like to hear to him say it, but it feels like there's a
    bandwagon effect happening where people are falling over themselves to tell us how
    smart they are and how dumb the coach is. It gets old. That's not excusing questionable
    decisions or weird rotations, but I dunno, maybe there's a reason for it.

    Hey, and good for Earl Watson, who got the full-time job in Phoenix while we were having
    this conversation. I'm curious to see what the Suns are going to do this offseason, because
    I don't think they're that far away from getting back to a competitive level again.

    Interesting that...CONTINUE READING AT SBNATION


    Pacers
    Candace Buckner @CandaceDBuckner
    Jared Wade @8pts9secs
    Tim Donahue @TimDonahue8p9s
    Tom Lewis @indycornrows
    Ian Levy @HickoryHigh
    Whitney @its_whitney

    Raptors
    Doug Smith @SmithRaps
    Holly MacKenzie @stackmack
    Sam Holako @RapsFan
    Adam Francis @raptorshq
    Joseph Casciaro @JosephCasciaro
    Blake Murphy @BlakeMurphyODC

    This is the darkest timeline.

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    Re: 4/23/2016 NBA Playoffs, First Round - Game Thread #4: Pacers Vs. Raptors

    Do we know who is today's ref. crew?


    Basketball isn't played with computers, spreadsheets, and simulations. ChicagoJ 4/21/13

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      Re: 4/23/2016 NBA Playoffs, First Round - Game Thread #4: Pacers Vs. Raptors

      Originally posted by Peck View Post
      Do we know who is today's ref. crew?
      Officials: Danny Crawford, Ron Garretson, Bill Spooner (Nick Buchert)
      This is the darkest timeline.

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      • #4
        Re: 4/23/2016 NBA Playoffs, First Round - Game Thread #4: Pacers Vs. Raptors

        Can we switch up the starting 5 please? It isn't working.

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        • #5
          Re: 4/23/2016 NBA Playoffs, First Round - Game Thread #4: Pacers Vs. Raptors

          Originally posted by avoidingtheclowns View Post
          Officials: Danny Crawford, Ron Garretson, Bill Spooner (Nick Buchert)
          Well at least that isn't a horrible crew. Spooner can be a pill at times but generally this isn't a bad unit.

          Edit: Well crap, I looked right past it three times. Sorry ATC.


          Basketball isn't played with computers, spreadsheets, and simulations. ChicagoJ 4/21/13

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          • #6
            Re: 4/23/2016 NBA Playoffs, First Round - Game Thread #4: Pacers Vs. Raptors

            Listen, the refs aren't going to decide this game. We come out looking anything like the last 2 games and we're finished. PG needs help, and he'd better get some if we want to advance. I'm trying hard to believe.
            Don't ask Marvin Harrison what he did during the bye week. "Batman never told where the Bat Cave is," he explained.

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            • #7
              Re: 4/23/2016 NBA Playoffs, First Round - Game Thread #4: Pacers Vs. Raptors

              Originally posted by BlueCollarColts View Post
              Can we switch up the starting 5 please? It isn't working.

              Turner starting for Allen

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              • #8
                Re: 4/23/2016 NBA Playoffs, First Round - Game Thread #4: Pacers Vs. Raptors

                I'm here early today and it looks bad guys. There are a ton of raptors fans already in attendance m. It won't be like Chicago is here but it's not good either.


                Basketball isn't played with computers, spreadsheets, and simulations. ChicagoJ 4/21/13

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                • #9
                  Re: 4/23/2016 NBA Playoffs, First Round - Game Thread #4: Pacers Vs. Raptors

                  Obviously it's our season defining game. IF we can get ANYONE (preferably several) players not named Paul George or Myles Turner going and even this thing up, I have a good feeling about winning a best of 3 with the Raptors. Home court or not.

                  They have confidence right now, as they should. But I absolutely believe if we reinsert that sliver of doubt and stir up their playoff nerves, we can win one of two in Toronto.

                  But if Paul and Myles are the only ones to show up, then it's completely moot.

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                  • #10
                    Re: 4/23/2016 NBA Playoffs, First Round - Game Thread #4: Pacers Vs. Raptors

                    Glad to see Vogel is starting Turner. It's a move that should've been done two games ago.

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                    • #11
                      Re: 4/23/2016 NBA Playoffs, First Round - Game Thread #4: Pacers Vs. Raptors

                      Now it gets worse. They are organizing a cheering section behind the raptors bench. The Toronto super fan is going around the floor level and leasing raptors fans in chants


                      Basketball isn't played with computers, spreadsheets, and simulations. ChicagoJ 4/21/13

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                      • #12
                        Re: 4/23/2016 NBA Playoffs, First Round - Game Thread #4: Pacers Vs. Raptors

                        This is a must win game. I expect us to come out with much more urgency, toughness, and energy. There shouldn't be a single loose ball that someone isn't jumping on, and we can't just get pushed around like in Game 3.

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                        • #13
                          Re: 4/23/2016 NBA Playoffs, First Round - Game Thread #4: Pacers Vs. Raptors

                          Ok I take it back, if there isn't a quick turnaround in fans coming in this might be as bad as Chicago


                          Basketball isn't played with computers, spreadsheets, and simulations. ChicagoJ 4/21/13

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                          • #14
                            Re: 4/23/2016 NBA Playoffs, First Round - Game Thread #4: Pacers Vs. Raptors

                            Breaking out the old Reggie Swingman from high school for this one. Gotta do it.

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                            • #15
                              Re: 4/23/2016 NBA Playoffs, First Round - Game Thread #4: Pacers Vs. Raptors

                              Originally posted by Peck View Post
                              Now it gets worse. They are organizing a cheering section behind the raptors bench. The Toronto super fan is going around the floor level and leasing raptors fans in chants
                              Ugh... Well, the guy (and our fans) need to take it personally and shut'em up.

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