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    While I think he's going to retire I also find it hard to believe that Paige is the first one to get the scoop of all people although at least it wasn't Rob Lowe.

    I also think he made this decision a long time ago but waited till the SB hoopla passed and well the "Scandal" blew over before making it official.

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    Paige: Broncos' Peyton Manning will ride off into the sunset
    According to two sources, Manning will acknowledge his retirement decision by the end of this week


    His Bronc riding days are over; the last rodeo is done.

    Peyton Manning is saying goodbye; it's been lots of fun.

    According to two sources, Manning will acknowledge his decision by the end of this week.

    In all probability, Peyton, who will turn 40 on March 24, is leaving the Broncos and retiring from the game he has played competitively for 29 years.

    It's implausible that Manning would opt to sign with another team for one season.

    Manning's final play for the Broncos was a handoff to C.J. Anderson for 5 yards with 1:22 remaining in Super Bowl 50. Manning's first play with Denver was a handoff to Willis McGahee in the opening moments of a September game in 2012.

    In between, Manning threw for 151 touchdowns and 19,062 yards. He ran for one touchdown. he won 76.9 percent of the games he started with the Broncos, compiling an overall 50-15 record. He came off the bench to lead the Broncos to one other victory in his final regular-season game.

    With Manning, the Broncos won four consecutive AFC West titles. The Broncos played in two Super Bowls, winning one.

    Also astounding was Manning's record as a starter against division teams. He was 20-2, losing only to San Diego at home in 2013 and to Kansas City in his final start in 2015, when he was suffering from plantar fasciitis and suffering through his worst game. He never lost a division game on the road.


    Manning produced 10 comeback victories and 11 fourth-quarter, game-winning drives. All pleased his boss ó The Comeback King.

    In John Elway's last four seasons, he had a combined record of 51-17 (75 percent) and won two Super Bowls. He could have won another in the 1996 season. Manning perhaps could have won another in his first season in Denver.

    Elway finished his career as the all-time leader in regular-season victories. Manning is No. 1 in combined regular-season and postseason victories with 200. Elway was the oldest quarterback (38) to win a Super Bowl ó until Manning replaced him at 39.

    Both must be placed in the top tier of all-time quarterbacks, and probably in the first five.

    Manning's achievements, coming after overcoming four neck surgeries and with a new franchise, are more than everyone should have expected. Same for Elway, who overcame three Super Bowl defeats and a torn biceps. The two No. 1 picks, originally property of the Colts, made Colorado proud.

    There have been three parades.

    Elway is the chief football officer of his old team ó and probably will become a part owner. Manning perhaps will be a co-owner and the vice president/general manager of his own franchise.

    Elway fulfilled his promise made to Manning when they met on March 11 four years ago. Manning, who had been released by the Colts, was the most prized free agent in NFL history. Denver was Manning's first stop. When they talked at Cherry Hills Country Club, far from the maddening crowd, Elway told Manning he would do what was done for him toward the end of his career. He'd surround the quarterback with enough talent to get back to the Super Bowl. Manning joined the Broncos.


    Elway acquired all-pros and drafted future Pro Bowlers, changed personnel, fired a successful coach, brought in ally Gary Kubiak and gave Manning the best defense in the league. Manning gave Elway everything he had ó the greatest passing season in league annals ó and then all he had left in his final season ó one more return from injury and three victories in the postseason.

    Both got what they sought ó another world championship, Manning's second as a player and Elway's first as an executive.

    Manning and Elway can part amiably and agreeably.

    Elway also just did for Manning what had been done for him. He gave Peyton time and space to consider his future after the past two seasons. As Elway walked off a golf course on the Monterey Peninsula in mid-April of 1999, 2Ĺ months after he won his last Super Bowl, he told me he was retiring. He made the announcement public several days later.

    There are new NFL offseason regulations these days. Manning had only a month to deliberate his retirement, but he already had indicated to family and close friends, and Bill Belichick, that this most likely was his last rodeo.

    But Manning had to be sure.

    Peyton met with John at the Elway home last week, and now Manning is certain.

    After famed country duo Kix Brooks and Ronnie Dunn broke up, Brooks would sing about his "Last Rodeo" to his bronc Thunder: "That's what this old game is about. It looks like our time is running out."

    Fare thee well, Peyton.

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    Now... Just waiting for the official "I haven't decided yet" press release from Manning (or something from Archie).....
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    I think its legit actually only because I forgot Woody Paige is also a Tennessee alum and it kind of makes sense to do it this way seeing as how with the recent bad news coming out of Tennessee this would be the only story to keep that out of the headlines for a while.

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    Wait you might be onto something





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    Report: Peyton Manning 'would like to keep playing'

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    Posted: Mar 01, 2016 12:41 PM
    Updated: Mar 01, 2016 12:42 PM
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    So why is Peyton Manning continuing to delay the announcement of his decision to retire as a member of the Broncos? Possibly because he doesn’t want to retire as a member of the Broncos.

    It’s a theory recently raised in connection with Lions receiver Calvin Johnson, who’d be better off retiring as a free agent than as a member of the Lions, since it would then become much easier to unretire and sign with anyone he wants. For Manning, his current delay could be more about securing a release from the Broncos than landing on the team’s reserve/retired list.

    Report: Manning to make retirement decision by week's end
    The possibility becomes more relevant at this point because the signs are increasing that Manning may want to find a way to keep playing. On Monday, agent Tom Condon told SiriusXM NFL Radio that Manning has told Condon, “I really like to play'.” On Tuesday, ESPN’s Adam Schefter said on ESPN Radio’s Mike & Mike in the Morning (via Rotoworld.com) that “in a perfect world” Manning would “like to keep playing.”

    It meshes with what ProFootballTalk reported during the season. After exiting the lineup due to a foot injury that possibly wasn’t going to heal in time for Manning to play again in 2015, he intended to play in 2016. Circumstances have now changed, however.

    Before he returned and (sort of) led the Broncos to a Super Bowl win, the bar for overcoming his performance before November 15 was very low, making it easier to find another team where he could reverse the perception that he had become the NFL’s equivalent of Willie Mays. It now becomes harder for Manning to find a “perfect world” to continue to play, since he’d need to find a contending team that is otherwise poised for a serious playoff run.

    Matt Hasselbeck says goodbye, Pat McAfee responds in Pat McAfee style
    If he doesn’t retire as a member of the Broncos, it would be easy for him to return at any time. Maybe he finds a team in June. Maybe a spot opens in July or August. Maybe the quarterback of a contender gets injured at some point during the regular season.

    At one point, it was believed Brett Favre was destined to pull a Roger Clemens and return during a given season. Maybe Peyton Manning’s “perfect world” consists of waiting for a perfect storm to descend on a great team that loses its quarterback late enough in the season to allow Peyton to swoop in and save the day.

    Or at least to provide just enough of a complement on offense to help an otherwise championship-caliber team finish the job.
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    I see him toying with this... and I'm sure the Favre record haunts him.... but I can't see him ultimately bypassing the opportunity to go out on top. Of course leaving the door open by being granted his release from Denver and then sitting at home with a decision to make if/when the phone rings and a team loses their starter might be part of his thinking. Just to keep a backup plan in place.

    The book has a nice ending right now. I'm not sure the ending would be nearly as good if he came back next year. I think it would be an entirely different book with an entirely different moral to the ending.
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    I'm sure those records kill him (catching Favre, trying to put as much distance as possible between him and Brady), but at the end of the day I don't see how he can justify playing unless he has some massive health resurgence, the odds of which would have to be pretty slim.

    He was pretty much the worst quarterback in the NFL this season, but the first thing anyone will think about when they reflect on his 2015 is that he came back from injury and won a ring. Great story. If he goes to some other team, he will almost certainly play really really bad, only this time he won't be on a team that is good enough to carry him to a title. That would just be sad to watch.

    It's his life and career, so if there's a team out there that honestly wants him then more power to him. But he could end his career right now in a way that most athletes can only dream of.

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    I don't think Manning cares about the "story book ending". I think he's trying to debate whether or not he has the health and/or ability to continue playing. Everyone else is telling him that he's done. I'm sure that competitiveness has him wanting to prove everyone wrong.

    I do think he will end up retiring though. I don't think he wants to go through an entire season of being a poor QB again. That has to knock the ego down a bit.

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    I don't doubt that Peyton wants to keep playing, but nobody can play forever. Eventually, your body will tell you that it's time to hang 'em up. For Peyton, that time is now.

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    I'm sure those records kill him (catching Favre, trying to put as much distance as possible between him and Brady), but at the end of the day I don't see how he can justify playing unless he has some massive health resurgence, the odds of which would have to be pretty slim.

    He was pretty much the worst quarterback in the NFL this season, but the first thing anyone will think about when they reflect on his 2015 is that he came back from injury and won a ring. Great story. If he goes to some other team, he will almost certainly play really really bad, only this time he won't be on a team that is good enough to carry him to a title. That would just be sad to watch.

    It's his life and career, so if there's a team out there that honestly wants him then more power to him. But he could end his career right now in a way that most athletes can only dream of.
    Pretty Slim?

    I think he can still play if all he has to do is hand it off to a capable back 55% of the time. Manning to me should keep playing. No one is going to remember him differently if he played for like the Rams for example. I think if he stayed with the Broncos that would be ideal but I don't think he wants to make that life transition yet from doing something you love for 20 mill to trying to figure out the next chapter for a lot less money and before anyone says that money shouldn't matter to him let me just say that money still matters to billionaires let alone millionaires like Manning. He is still getting the biggest bang for his buck financially speaking by playing football and still maintaining his brand as a current athlete vs a former athlete.

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    Well, we are looking for a backup QB behind Luck now... :-)
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    Well, we are looking for a backup QB behind Luck now... :-)
    Probably would've kept Hasselbeck if that's the case...

    That being said I find the title of this article rather misleading (him wanting to play)

    Sounds like he's trying to make an informed decision and people are just impatient over someone making a life altering decision like this. And they're real impatient because many want him to retire. Nothing here is new.
    That being said I have no doubt he wants to play doesn't mean he'll be able to or anyone wants him.
    I personally think he will retire and should only because he just doesn't have it anymore and if he can't make that decision someone else will but I don't begrudge him taking his time over something like this when its over.. Its over.

    I'm leaning towards him retiring I could see him only returning if this team is intact and the Broncos want him back for a repeat. But that's very unlikely.

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    I think last year worked out almost too perfectly for him. Great defense helped to keep the score close and even score themselves. Nice buffer in the win column when he went down and Brock replaced him while he healed. Which IMHO wasn't just the known injuries but just giving his body time to rest and recuperate giving him a break in the last half of the season that you just can't expect or plan for. But staying sharp and playing wasn't IMO important as just recuperating and reloading for that stretch run.

    And he was nothing special in that stretch run... but he did just enough... and the defense was fantastic... And he ended up hoisting the Lombardi.

    Honestly, considering how he played, even prior to the injury, or at any point after the injury, he should take a cue from the football gods and ride off into the sunset. Nobody will remember the poor play when it ends with his 2nd SB title. He's done as much for his legacy as I think he can possibly do as a QB. I don't know if he wants the storybook ending now or not, but 10 years from now I bet he'd prefer he had that storybook ending and left it there (rather than playing another season).
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    I thought he played better when he returned (but compared to before there was nowhere to go but up) With an elite defense a 39 year old Manning = Trent Dilfer. That's not too bad.

    Its not sustainable either.

    I think he probably would've announced his retirement by now if it weren't for the UT lawsuit and the media dredging up a 20 year old case they never cared about the first time around. But with that there will be questions so the conspiracy theorist in me thinks he's putting those rumors out there so they talk about this and not UT etc.

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    Unless he has a physical resurgence it will be really painful to watch him play next year. He will not have an amazing defense to cover up his bad play like he did in Denver. Honestly, the Broncos won in spite of Manning this past season. Peyton struggled to make basic throws and was arguably one of the worst QBs in the league before being benched. Sure he can go to the Rams and hand off to Gurley for a majority of the time, but the Rams defense is no where good enough to cover up his lack of a passing game.

    He has the perfect scenario. He came back from being injured and his team won a title in his last game. You cannot write a better ending.

    As a fan of his, it is just painful to watch him throw the ducks out there and be a shell of his former self.

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    He's a smart guy and as others have pointed out worries about his legacy. Shoot that's why they used me to yell at fans so he could keep his image clean. I'll take the Vegas odds he'll retire.

    The one good thing for Colts fans is Peyton will always think of the Colts as his team and not the Broncos. Simple reason, Bronco fans only embraced Peyton for his short time with the team and do not have any loyalty to him at all. Actually from the many fans I've met they really didn't like him and only accepted him because his was on their team.... like most fans.
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    I think last year worked out almost too perfectly for him. Great defense helped to keep the score close and even score themselves. Nice buffer in the win column when he went down and Brock replaced him while he healed. Which IMHO wasn't just the known injuries but just giving his body time to rest and recuperate giving him a break in the last half of the season that you just can't expect or plan for. But staying sharp and playing wasn't IMO important as just recuperating and reloading for that stretch run.

    And he was nothing special in that stretch run... but he did just enough... and the defense was fantastic... And he ended up hoisting the Lombardi.

    Honestly, considering how he played, even prior to the injury, or at any point after the injury, he should take a cue from the football gods and ride off into the sunset. Nobody will remember the poor play when it ends with his 2nd SB title. He's done as much for his legacy as I think he can possibly do as a QB. I don't know if he wants the storybook ending now or not, but 10 years from now I bet he'd prefer he had that storybook ending and left it there (rather than playing another season).
    You can just look at some games and see that this is wrong. Going and tossing 3 TD in KC and 250 some yards is not a sign imo and going against GB and tossing 21/29 for 340 yards isn't a sign. I get that he isn't the same player but we are 18 months away from him going 39 Tds and 15 ints. I just wouldn't assume that he couldn't put up similar numbers in 2016/17.

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    You can just look at some games and see that this is wrong. Going and tossing 3 TD in KC and 250 some yards is not a sign imo and going against GB and tossing 21/29 for 340 yards isn't a sign. I get that he isn't the same player but we are 18 months away from him going 39 Tds and 15 ints. I just wouldn't assume that he couldn't put up similar numbers in 2016/17.
    With the way his arm is now I wouldn't be surprised to see 15TDs and 39INTS next season, if his team wouldn't bench him before that happens. His arm isn't getting better... it's declining. The nerve issue never 100% went away (see: the glove) and it's more than likely deteriorating as time goes on, as is his advancing age. He's free to do what he thinks is best for him but I'm not sure he'd really make the right decision if his legacy is really important to him. I think the decision to retire should've been an easy one and I'm still surprised he didn't announce either before or after the SB.

    So I hope the delayed announcement has more to do with timing due to these couple of scandals brewing or whatever PR benefit a delay brings him than him really considering coming back next season.
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    With the way his arm is now I wouldn't be surprised to see 15TDs and 39INTS next season, if his team wouldn't bench him before that happens. His arm isn't getting better... it's declining. The nerve issue never 100% went away (see: the glove) and it's more than likely deteriorating as time goes on, as is his advancing age. He's free to do what he thinks is best for him but I'm not sure he'd really make the right decision if his legacy is really important to him. I think the decision to retire should've been an easy one and I'm still surprised he didn't announce either before or after the SB.

    So I hope the delayed announcement has more to do with timing due to these couple of scandals brewing or whatever PR benefit a delay brings him than him really considering coming back next season.
    His legacy is no way impacted if he retires now or plays one more year. If that impacts his legacy then he has a pretty fragile legacy in your eyes. Its not like anyone looks at Joe Montana and says you know what if he had only retired sooner and didn't play for the Chiefs..

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    He's a smart guy and as others have pointed out worries about his legacy. Shoot that's why they used me to yell at fans so he could keep his image clean. I'll take the Vegas odds he'll retire.

    The one good thing for Colts fans is Peyton will always think of the Colts as his team and not the Broncos. Simple reason, Bronco fans only embraced Peyton for his short time with the team and do not have any loyalty to him at all. Actually from the many fans I've met they really didn't like him and only accepted him because his was on their team.... like most fans.
    See I don't think Peyton considers himself as a Colt or Bronco they were teams he played for but in the end he will always consider himself a Tennessee Vol(who he always claims) who he played for in the NFL is rather irrelevant because he was equally impactful for both franchises. He was that iconic.

    A theory I'm putting out there what if the Broncos are telling Peyton to hold off his announcement so they can see if they can sign Brock. If they can he will retire if they can't is it too much of a stretch to think they'll bring him back? I know $$ is involved but they seem real calm about the whole thing where Peyton is concerned.

    There's been talks of how Brock and the Broncos haven't reached an agreement. That could change of course but what if he bolts for more $$$? Then what is the next option for Denver? I mean if they have the defense does it matter who's on offense? I mean they won it all with the corpse of Manning.

    That being said I still think he's going to retire and the only reason people think this is taking forever is because they are too impatient to wait 3 + weeks for someone to make a life altering decision they already made for him.

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    His legacy is no way impacted if he retires now or plays one more year. If that impacts his legacy then he has a pretty fragile legacy in your eyes. Its not like anyone looks at Joe Montana and says you know what if he had only retired sooner and didn't play for the Chiefs..
    I actually do but I grew up an ND fan and knew the legend of Joe Cool. However in the grand scheme of things nobody really cares about that since he won 4 SBs

    Same with Jordan wasting away on the Wizards rarely referenced all you see are Bulls highlights and his 6 rings (ugh)

    I can see why people would think less of Manning if he stuck around another year and was awful but they probably didn't think much about his career to begin with. It rarely ends well for these guys.
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    See I don't think Peyton considers himself as a Colt or Bronco they were teams he played for but in the end he will always consider himself a Tennessee Vol(who he always claims) who he played for in the NFL is rather irrelevant because he was equally impactful for both franchises. He was that iconic.
    Maybe, but I think you're underrating the NFL importance to Peyton. He didn't grow up with his dream being to play college ball. Nah it was to play in the NFL and by some chance it turned out to be his favorite team the Colts for 13 years. Understand I'm not poo poohing the Vol attachment. I think 13 years of being the leader of the Colts probably equals his 4 years with his college team. All these guys have a fondness for their college teams. Shoot they show that every game when they show which college they came from. Simply his greatest achievement happened when he was a Colt. Didn't win a national championship in college, wasn't the driving force for the current Bronco SB, but he could take a lot of credit for the Colts Super Bowl run/win. When Peyton said in his press conference "I'll always be your quarterback" he meant it.
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    See I don't think Peyton considers himself as a Colt or Bronco they were teams he played for but in the end he will always consider himself a Tennessee Vol(who he always claims) who he played for in the NFL is rather irrelevant because he was equally impactful for both franchises. He was that iconic.

    Oh come on, he was not "equally impactful" for both franchises. 13 years > 4 years. Yes, he had a very successful run with Denver, no doubt about that, but his run in Indy lasted many many years and he won a Super Bowl here in the prime of his career. Manning would have obviously been an eternal NFL legend even if his injury would have forced him to retire back in 2011. Most NFL fans will always think of Manning as a Colt first and foremost. Go ask a Pats fan if they think of Manning more as a Colt or Bronco.....I bet almost 100% of them would think of him as a Colt first.

    Manning has to have more love in his heart for Indy and the Colts......there's just no way he couldn't. He gave the franchise its Indy identity and was literally the reason that the spectacular stadium was built. He transformed the Colts into a powerhouse franchise. He put a name on his hospital here. He was responsible for thousands and thousands and thousands of people developing an interest in the Colts which has turned into lifelong fandom. He grew up here as he was only a 22 year old young man when he arrived. Manning quite simply was the Colts. The Broncos OTOH had a long established tradition and fanbase before Manning came. They offered him a nice place for the twilight of his career, but he didn't build the franchise or anything like he did here.

    His Broncos career was certainly very memorable, but does not even touch the impact of what he did in Indy. Just go back and watch the video where Peyton came back and got that standing ovation. The look on his face and the connection with the fans said it all. Manning is a Colt forever and no one knows that more than Manning. He was utterly devastated when he had to leave the Colts.
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    Montana, best as I recall, was still pretty darned good when he retired. I remember his final game and the commentator (Dierdorf I believe) saying he didn't play like a guy that was ready for retirement. But soon after that game he did announce his retirement.

    I don't think there was any question KC wanted him back if he wanted to play. But there's a pretty good chance Denver doesn't even want Manning back. Winning a SB negates the season's bad play. But playing like that next season, and not having a defense to keep the score close (even capable of scoring themselves), is not going to fare well for his legacy. Sure, Johnny U and Willie Mays are remembered as greats of their games.... But they are also remembered for embarrassing themselves at the end of their careers. That is where Peyton is potentially now. Montana completely avoided that.
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    Peyton is maybe going out with a ring and he's being scrutinized for it. That's the story of his career. Look up Brady's playoff stats, they're not close to blowing Peyton out of the water or anything. But one's a choker and one's a champ. Peyton's the most over-scrutinized athlete I've ever seen.

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