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2/8/2016 Game Thread #52: Pacers vs. Lakers

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    2/8/2016 Game Thread #52: Pacers vs. Lakers

    MAMBA NO. 37


    -VS-


    Game Time Start: 7:00 PM ET
    Where: The Fieldhouse, Indianapolis, IN
    Officials: Jason Phillips, Eric Dalen, Derek Richardson

    Media Notes: Indiana Notes, Los Angeles Notes
    Television: FOX Sports Indiana / TWC SportsNet, TWC Deportes
    Radio: WFNI 1070 AM, 107.5 FM / KSPN 710 AM, KCOR 1350 AM
    NBA Feeds: NBA Audio & Broadband League Pass (subscription req'd)


    REMINDER: Per PD policy, please do not share a link to, describe how to search for, request a link to, or request a PM about streaming video of a NBA game that is not coming directly through the NBA. Not even in a "wink-wink, nudge-nudge, know-what-I-mean" round-about sort of way. Thank you
    27-24
    Home: 16-8
    West: 9-13
    11-42
    Away: 5-24
    East: 6-13
    Feb 10
    Feb 19
    Feb 21
    Feb 22
    7:00pm
    8:00pm
    6:00pm
    7:30pm

    MAHINMI
    TURNER
    GEORGE
    ELLIS
    HILL
    HIBBERT
    RANDLE
    BRYANT
    CLARKSON
    RUSSELL


    PACERS
    Rodney Stuckey - Right Foot (out)


    LAKERS
    Kobe Bryant - sore right shoulder (questionable)
    Roy Hibbert - sprained left ankle (questionable)
    Larry Nance Jr. - sore right knee (out)
    Julius Randle - sprained left ankle (probable)
    D'angelo Russell - sore groin (questionable)



    Larry Bird will die young. Just ask him.
    Jackie MacMullan

    INDIANA PACERS COACH Larry Bird wasn't even sure which play his team was running because
    his damn heart was kicking out again. He wondered if anyone noticed him sweating profusely,
    his shirt drenched under his suit and tie, an all-too-familiar symptom whenever his heart started
    rattling around his chest like a basketball in an empty trash barrel. The waves of nausea and
    dizziness overtook him next, muddling his concentration and leaving him feeling light-headed.
    When the sudden arrhythmia would occur during his training sessions in his playing days -- long
    before he'd informed any medical personnel about it -- he would always lie down immediately
    and nap for several hours, because if he didn't, he risked losing consciousness.

    But on March 17, 1998, the 41-year-old coach of the Eastern Conference-contending Pacers, in
    the thick of a hotly contested game with the defending champion Bulls, could hardly recline and
    sleep it off. "Oh god," Bird thought as he tried to steady himself on the Indiana sideline. "Please
    don't let me pass out on the court."

    Instead, the referees whistled the customary television timeout, allowing Bird to sink into the
    chair his team dragged onto the court for him during stoppages in play. When Bird had been
    hired in 1997, he'd made the unorthodox decision to entrust assistant Rick Carlisle with
    drawing up offensive plays in the huddle. Now, as Carlisle diagrammed Indiana's next move
    against Michael Jordan and the Bulls, Bird wiped the sweat from his brow (and his wrists and
    neck) and tried to regain his composure.

    He finished the game without further incident, avoiding detection from anyone on his staff.
    Bird, who has an enlarged heart, was diagnosed in 1995 with atrial fibrillation, an abnormal
    heartbeat resulting from electrical signals being generated chaotically throughout the heart's
    upper chambers. With proper medication, exercise and diet, atrial fibrillation can be controlled,
    but Bird abhorred medication and was prone to skipping his pills. Part of the reason, he admits,
    was his own fatalistic view of what the future would bring.

    "I tell my wife all the time, 'You don't see many 7-footers walking around at the age of 75,'"
    says Bird, who's 6-foot-9. "She hates it when I say that. I know there are a few of us who
    live a long time, but most of us big guys don't seem to last too long. I'm not lying awake at
    night thinking about it. If it goes, it goes."

    It's a macabre outlook for Larry Legend -- but he's hardly alone in harboring it. Ask a bunch
    of NBA big men and the consensus is that their atypical size and the strains placed on their
    bodies during their careers cause them to deteriorate more quickly and die younger. The
    bigger they are, the younger they fall -- or so they think. Is it possible they're right?

    MOSES MALONE WAS never late.

    That's why Calvin Murphy was so puzzled. It was 6 a.m. on a Sunday last September, and
    Murphy's friend and former teammate hadn't shown up for breakfast at the Waterside
    Marriott in Norfolk, Virginia. They were expected to tee off at 7:30 in a charity golf tournament.
    Malone, who hailed from nearby Petersburg, was a tournament regular each year and had
    joined fellow NBA alums at the Chrysler Hall in Norfolk on Saturday night for a comedy show.
    A three-time MVP center, a 13-time All-Star, Malone was not just NBA royalty, he was also
    beloved. He'd mingled with old friends, including Paul Silas, who'd snuck up from behind and
    elbowed him in the back -- all the better to jar his memory of their battles in the NBA trenches.
    "I'm glad it's just you," Malone quipped, "or I'd have to do something to hurt you." Just after
    2 a.m., Malone, 60, told Murphy he was tired and would see him in the morning. His final
    words that night: "Don't be late." Now it was Malone who was tardy, so Murphy called his
    cellphone, figuring Moses might have snuck up to the health club for a quick jog on the
    treadmill. "Mo was a workaholic when it came to staying in shape," Murphy says.

    The call went unanswered. But before Murphy could head up to Malone's room to check on him,
    tournament organizers urged Murphy to follow the others to the golf course while one of the
    event coordinators, Sandra White, went to knock on Malone's door. No answer. She summoned
    security, but when they tried to gain access to the room, the chain was still across the door.
    When they finally busted in, they found Malone lying dead in his bed, his eyes wide open.

    NBA referee Tony Brothers, who runs the tournament, received the news of Malone's passing
    at the course and pulled aside Murphy, who promptly collapsed at the referee's feet and began
    sobbing uncontrollably. "I just blacked out," Murphy says. "It caught me off guard. Mo never
    complained about anything. And now he's gone? I just couldn't understand it."

    Seventeen days earlier, in Allentown, Pennsylvania, veteran NBA center Darryl Dawkins --
    legendary destroyer of backboards -- had also died of a heart attack. He was 58. Dawkins, like
    Malone, had no known previous health issues. "First Darryl and then Moses," Silas says. "It
    just shocked me. It makes me wonder, 'What should they be doing? What should I be doing?'"

    He's not alone. During a seven-month period last year, the NBA lost, in addition to Dawkins and
    Malone, Anthony Mason, Christian Welp and Jack Haley to heart-related deaths -- not one of
    them was over 60 -- while 52-year-old Jerome Kersey died suddenly of a pulmonary
    thromboembolism. Current players LaMarcus Aldridge, Jeff Green and Channing Frye have had
    heart issues. Bulls coach Fred Hoiberg cut his playing career short because of a heart condition
    and underwent open heart surgery last spring. Seven-footer Eddy Curry was hospitalized with
    an irregular heartbeat at age 22.

    But health concerns for NBA bigs extend beyond cardiac distress. Six-foot-11 power forward
    John "Hot Rod" Williams died in December due to complications from prostate cancer. He was
    53. Seven-foot-7 Manute Bol left the game at 36 due to rheumatism and died at 47 from
    acute kidney failure. The NBA's all-time leading scorer, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, underwent
    quadruple coronary bypass surgery last April at age 68, six years after the 7-2 Hall of Famer
    battled a form of blood cancer.

    Then there's legendary 6-11 center Bill Walton, who suffered from such debilitating nerve
    pain in his back that in 2008, at age 56, he says he contemplated suicide. Walton -- whose
    book, "Back From the Dead," will be published in March -- estimates he's undergone 37
    surgeries, including fusion surgeries on both ankles. "When you are in that never-ending
    cycle of pain, it puts you in a space of darkness, sadness and overwhelming depression,"
    Walton says. "You go through stages. The first one is, 'Oh my god, I'm gonna die.' The next
    stage is, 'Oh my gosh, I want to die.' And the third stage is, 'Oh my gosh, I'm going to live,
    and this is what I'm stuck with.' That's the worst stage of all."

    In 2009, Walton underwent an 8½-hour spinal fusion surgery that required four bolts, two
    titanium rods and a metal cage -- akin to an Erector Set -- to put him back together. Now
    he travels the country advocating for athletes to be proactive in their treatment. "We
    athletes are our own worst enemies," Walton says. "We don't listen to our bodies, we don't
    listen to our doctors. We don't realize until later in life that health is everything. Without it,
    you've got nothing."

    EVOLUTION IS A blunt instrument. If growing to be 7 feet tall were advantageous to
    longevity, the world would be full of 7-footers. It's not.

    Perhaps because of this,...CONTINUE READING ESPN


    Pacers
    Candace Buckner @CandaceDBuckner
    Nate Taylor @ByNateTaylor
    Jared Wade @8pts9secs
    Tim Donahue @TimDonahue8p9s
    Tom Lewis @indycornrows
    Whitney @its_whitney

    Lakers
    Mike Trudell @LakersReporter
    Mike Bresnahan @Mike_Bresnahan
    Dave McMenamin @mcten
    Darius Soriano @forumbluegold
    Drew Garrison @DrewGarrisonSBN
    Aunt Dee Dee @SoCalGal64
    This is the darkest timeline.
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  • #2
    Re: 2/8/2016 Game Thread #52: Pacers vs. Lakers

    Likely will be Lou Williams starting not D'Angelo Russell for the Lakers

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    • #3
      Re: 2/8/2016 Game Thread #52: Pacers vs. Lakers

      Looking like Roy's out, per Lakers beat reporters on Twitter.

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      • #4
        Re: 2/8/2016 Game Thread #52: Pacers vs. Lakers

        Out of the hospital and at home, so I get to watch the Game on my 70 inch instead of the little 13 inch the hospital provides. I mean seriously, even my son looked up at me like "you've got to be kidding me dad". Now we're home and he just seems at ease

        Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

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        • #5
          Re: 2/8/2016 Game Thread #52: Pacers vs. Lakers

          Originally posted by PaulGeorgeHill View Post
          Out of the hospital and at home, so I get to watch the Game on my 70 inch instead of the little 13 inch the hospital provides. I mean seriously, even my son looked up at me like "you've got to be kidding me dad". Now we're home and he just seems at ease

          Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

          Excellent news!!!

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          • #6
            Re: 2/8/2016 Game Thread #52: Pacers vs. Lakers

            A coworker of mine won tickets to this game. I wish it was me to see Kobe one last time between Kobe and Peyton retiring my childhood is leaving me

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            • #7
              Re: 2/8/2016 Game Thread #52: Pacers vs. Lakers

              I would guess Roy is just sitting this one out because they're in Indiana... no real reason to play anyway
              "We've got to be very clear about this. We don't want our players hanging around with murderers," said Larry Bird, Pacers president.

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              • #8
                Re: 2/8/2016 Game Thread #52: Pacers vs. Lakers

                Wow... Lot's of blood...

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                • #9
                  Re: 2/8/2016 Game Thread #52: Pacers vs. Lakers

                  A perfect opportunity to gather Ian's DNA for cloning purposes.

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                  • #10
                    Re: 2/8/2016 Game Thread #52: Pacers vs. Lakers

                    Nice lob!

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                    • #11
                      Re: 2/8/2016 Game Thread #52: Pacers vs. Lakers

                      Georgie missing threes? Did he also get conked on the head?

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                      • #12
                        Re: 2/8/2016 Game Thread #52: Pacers vs. Lakers

                        A Turner/Randle frontcourt would be awesome.
                        https://twitter.com/DrogsNavan

                        Change is neither good or bad, it simply is.

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                        • #13
                          Re: 2/8/2016 Game Thread #52: Pacers vs. Lakers

                          I want a 20/10 game from Turner. I'm tired of hearing about Porz and his 43% shooting.

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                          • #14
                            Re: 2/8/2016 Game Thread #52: Pacers vs. Lakers

                            Ellis just needs to never shoot 3's.

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                            • #15
                              Re: 2/8/2016 Game Thread #52: Pacers vs. Lakers

                              Originally posted by Dr. Awesome View Post
                              I want a 20/10 game from Turner. I'm tired of hearing about Porz and his 43% shooting.
                              Higher usage I'd say. Porz has to get his shots because the Knicks suck.
                              https://twitter.com/DrogsNavan

                              Change is neither good or bad, it simply is.

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