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    For those just seeing one of these, I'm going team by team thru the entire league & taking a closer look at each teams roster, free agent list & possible protected list for the expansion draft coming up in June.

    The info I'm using comes from the following sites.

    From NBA.com, a story on the Bobcats draft.
    http://www.nba.com/bobcats/news/expansion_draft.html

    This paragraph has the basic info.

    Charlotte will receive lists from each of the 27 teams not competing in the NBA Finals 10 days prior to the scheduled Expansion Draft (June 12) and those from the competing teams in the Finals within two days of the conclusion of the Finals. Team lists will designate a maximum of eight protected players for that teamís players under contract or restricted free agents for the 2004-05 NBA season. The unprotected players are eligible for selection by the Bobcats, who will draft a minimum of 14 players from NBA rosters.

    Free agent info from REAL GM.
    http://www.realgm.com/src_freeagents.php?year=2004

    Salary info from Hoops Hype.
    http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries/dallas.htm

    Here is the roster for the Dallas Mavericks

    Antoine Walker
    Michael Finley
    Dirk Nowitzki
    Antawn Jamison
    Tariq Abdul-Wahad
    Steve Nash
    Danny Fortson
    Shawn Bradley
    Eduardo Najera
    Tony Delk
    Travis Best
    Josh Howard
    Scott Williams
    Jon Stefansson
    Marquis Daniels

    Of the 15 players on the Dallas roster, 3 fall into the free agent catagory. Jon Stefansson is listed on REAL GM as being signed thru the 07-08 season, that is a big surprise to me. The Mav's can protect 8 of the 12 on their payroll for next season.

    I've heard different reports on Nash. Hoops Hype list him as having a "player option" for next season & REAL GM kindda backs that up when they don't name him amongst the Mav's free agents. I have read where some teams (Phoenix for one) will be trying to sign him this summer. As of now I will not consider him a free agent.

    Under contract for 2004-2005

    Antoine Walker ------- $14,625,000
    Michael Finley --------- $14,609,375
    Dirk Nowitzki ---------- $12,584,688
    Antawn Jamison ------ $12,584,688
    Tariq Abdul-Wahad --- $ 6,750,000
    Steve Nash ------------- $ 5,750,000
    Danny Fortson --------- $ 5,922,078
    Shawn Bradley --------- $ 4,000,000
    Eduardo Najera -------- $ 3,809,525
    Tony Delk ---------------- $ 3,150,000
    Josh Howard -------------- $ 823,640
    Jon Stefansson ----------- Not Listed

    Free agents

    Travis Best
    Scott Williams
    Marquis Daniels

    This is almost too easy.

    Walker, Finley, Nowitzki, Jamison, Nash, Najera & Howard are the 7 that make it without question.

    I think it would be safe to say that Tariq Abdul-Wahad & Jon Stefansson won't make the list.

    The borderline guys would be Danny Fortson, Shawn Bradley & Tony Delk.

    With a payroll next season of more than $84M & Mark Cuban as the owner, money will not be an over riding factor in who gets protected & who doesn't.

    I think the skills that Delk brings to the team can more easily be covered by other players so I would make him the third of the four available to the Bobcats.

    Fortson or Bradley?

    One is protected, one is not.

    I'll give that last spot to Bradley just because at 7-6 he can change the game more than Fortson can. Bradley might cause some team to make a deal with the BobCats to get him. I don't see that happening with Fortson.

    So the guys that Dallas hangs out there for the taking are.....

    Tariq Abdul-Wahad
    Jon Stefansson
    Tony Delk
    Danny Fortson

    Tony Delk is an easy choice for the Bobcats.

    I know he makes a little more than they would like to spend but he has just two years remaining on his deal ($3,150,000 & $3,375,000).

    Like the Kevin Ollie pick up from Cleveland he is a vet that can help tutor the kids that Charlotte will be bringing in.

    The expansion draft to date.

    Atlanta --------- No Pick
    Boston --------- C Kedrick Perkins
    Chicago -------- No Pick
    Cleveland ------ G Kevin Ollie
    Dallas ---------- G Tony Delk

    Next up the Denver Nuggets

    Links to previous threads in this series.

    http://www.pacersdigest.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=996
    http://www.pacersdigest.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1038
    http://www.pacersdigest.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1083
    http://www.pacersdigest.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1122

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    Btown

    If you come across a link to that please let me know.

    If Nash is taken out of the protected list, Fortson would be my replacement for him.

    That would still leave Delk available for the Bobcats, so in the long run the story ends the same.

    However, I would like the info to be as accurate as possible.

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    I'm guessing that finances are going to be a major factor in terms of who they leave off. Dallas is going to have to drop some serious coin in order to resign Nash, which will mean they'll have 5 guys making 10-15 million next year (and 4 of them will be on the books for four additional years each).

    Do you think its possible they leave off Jamison? He seems pretty close to untradeable at this point, considering the size of his contract. Although, if they leave him unprotected and the BCats don't take him, they'll have one alienated 6th man...

    What is the BCats salary cap again? 27 million?

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    Either way, Dallas is in good shape.
    http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries/dallas.htm

    They're already stuck with almost $72 million worth of salary for 2006/2007, PLUS Nash!

    That's a little bloated, no? Regardless of how wealthy Cuban is...

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    Either way, Dallas is in good shape.
    http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries/dallas.htm

    They're already stuck with almost $72 million worth of salary for 2006/2007, PLUS Nash!

    That's a little bloated, no? Regardless of how wealthy Cuban is...
    the guy is a billionaire several times over . . . I don't think he is sweating it, actually . . .

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    For those just seeing one of these, I'm going team by team thru the entire league & taking a closer look at each teams roster, free agent list & possible protected list for the expansion draft coming up in June.

    The info I'm using comes from the following sites.

    From NBA.com, a story on the Bobcats draft.
    http://www.nba.com/bobcats/news/expansion_draft.html

    This paragraph has the basic info.

    Charlotte will receive lists from each of the 27 teams not competing in the NBA Finals 10 days prior to the scheduled Expansion Draft (June 12) and those from the competing teams in the Finals within two days of the conclusion of the Finals. Team lists will designate a maximum of eight protected players for that teamís players under contract or restricted free agents for the 2004-05 NBA season. The unprotected players are eligible for selection by the Bobcats, who will draft a minimum of 14 players from NBA rosters.

    Free agent info from REAL GM.
    http://www.realgm.com/src_freeagents.php?year=2004

    Salary info from Hoops Hype.
    http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries/dallas.htm

    Here is the roster for the Dallas Mavericks

    Antoine Walker
    Michael Finley
    Dirk Nowitzki
    Antawn Jamison
    Tariq Abdul-Wahad
    Steve Nash
    Danny Fortson
    Shawn Bradley
    Eduardo Najera
    Tony Delk
    Travis Best
    Josh Howard
    Scott Williams
    Jon Stefansson
    Marquis Daniels

    Of the 15 players on the Dallas roster, 3 fall into the free agent catagory. Jon Stefansson is listed on REAL GM as being signed thru the 07-08 season, that is a big surprise to me. The Mav's can protect 8 of the 12 on their payroll for next season.

    I've heard different reports on Nash. Hoops Hype list him as having a "player option" for next season & REAL GM kindda backs that up when they don't name him amongst the Mav's free agents. I have read where some teams (Phoenix for one) will be trying to sign him this summer. As of now I will not consider him a free agent.

    Under contract for 2004-2005

    Antoine Walker ------- $14,625,000
    Michael Finley --------- $14,609,375
    Dirk Nowitzki ---------- $12,584,688
    Antawn Jamison ------ $12,584,688
    Tariq Abdul-Wahad --- $ 6,750,000
    Steve Nash ------------- $ 5,750,000
    Danny Fortson --------- $ 5,922,078
    Shawn Bradley --------- $ 4,000,000
    Eduardo Najera -------- $ 3,809,525
    Tony Delk ---------------- $ 3,150,000
    Josh Howard -------------- $ 823,640
    Jon Stefansson ----------- Not Listed

    Free agents

    Travis Best
    Scott Williams
    Marquis Daniels

    This is almost too easy.

    Walker, Finley, Nowitzki, Jamison, Nash, Najera & Howard are the 7 that make it without question.

    I think it would be safe to say that Tariq Abdul-Wahad & Jon Stefansson won't make the list.

    The borderline guys would be Danny Fortson, Shawn Bradley & Tony Delk.

    With a payroll next season of more than $84M & Mark Cuban as the owner, money will not be an over riding factor in who gets protected & who doesn't.

    I think the skills that Delk brings to the team can more easily be covered by other players so I would make him the third of the four available to the Bobcats.

    Fortson or Bradley?

    One is protected, one is not.

    I'll give that last spot to Bradley just because at 7-6 he can change the game more than Fortson can. Bradley might cause some team to make a deal with the BobCats to get him. I don't see that happening with Fortson.

    So the guys that Dallas hangs out there for the taking are.....

    Tariq Abdul-Wahad
    Jon Stefansson
    Tony Delk
    Danny Fortson

    Tony Delk is an easy choice for the Bobcats.

    I know he makes a little more than they would like to spend but he has just two years remaining on his deal ($3,150,000 & $3,375,000).

    Like the Kevin Ollie pick up from Cleveland he is a vet that can help tutor the kids that Charlotte will be bringing in.

    The expansion draft to date.

    Atlanta --------- No Pick
    Boston --------- C Kedrick Perkins
    Chicago -------- No Pick
    Cleveland ------ G Kevin Ollie
    Dallas ---------- G Tony Delk

    Next up the Denver Nuggets
    another excellent job . . .

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    I guess I missed it. Why do you think the Bobcats would pick up Delk over Fortson? I see Fortson as being the more valuable commodity, plus he's a big man, etc.

    I think the skills that Delk brings to the team can more easily be covered by other players that the Bobcats could draft.
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    I guess I missed it. Why do you think the Bobcats would pick up Delk over Fortson? I see Fortson as being the more valuable commodity, plus he's a big man, etc.

    I think the skills that Delk brings to the team can more easily be covered by other players that the Bobcats could draft.
    Fortson is nearly $6M per year, significantly cutting into what the Bobcats can spend next year.

    On the other hand, Delk is a little over $3M.

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    Tony Delk makes all the sense in the world on this one as well.

    Fortson will not be taken, if the Bobcats do any kind of homework on the guy at all, because he has been known to be a cancer in the lockerroom.

    On a young expansion team they will not need that.

    Delk is a bargain & could be a solid contributer to them.

    Atlanta - no pick
    Boston - Jumaine Jones
    Chicago - Chris Jeffries
    Cleveland - Kedrick Brown
    Dallas - Tony Delk


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    fortson has been a disaster everywhere he played. he's not all that big either (6'8''). the only thing he does is get rebounds. plus, he is a thug - remember the suns rookie he shoved?

    delk is the only logical choice, if bobcats have to pick one.

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    Either way, Dallas is in good shape.
    http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries/dallas.htm

    They're already stuck with almost $72 million worth of salary for 2006/2007, PLUS Nash!

    That's a little bloated, no? Regardless of how wealthy Cuban is...
    Read what I posted. I said they're in good shape regarding the Nash situation.
    Agreed. I intentionally took the quote out of context to make an additional point about their status. Perhaps I should have made that clearer...

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    Delk makes a lot of sense here.

    Atlanta - No Pick
    Boston - Kedrick Perkins
    Chicago - No Pick _or_ Robinson + Draft Pick
    Cleveland - No Pick
    Dallas - Tony Delk

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