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Eddy Curry out for the season and playoffs...

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  • Eddy Curry out for the season and playoffs...

    It doesn't sound good. The dizzyness and lightheadedness is disconcerting and not a good sign. I've done a lot of research on irregular heartbeats because I have an episodic benign condition and anytime an irregular heartbeat is accompanied by fainting or dizzyness, there is especially cause for concern. Hope the kid is okay.

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    Re: Eddy Curry out for the season and playoffs...

    I thought we already knew this? I swear I read this in the print edition of the Tribune while standing in line at Corner Bakery last week. It was the same day that we found out Juwaan Howard was out, the articles were on facing pages.

    Or perhaps the rest of the country is just now figuring it out...

    The Bulls aren't very good at keeping secrets.
    Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
    Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
    Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
    Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
    And life itself, rushing over me
    Life itself, the wind in black elms,
    Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you

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    • #3
      Re: Eddy Curry out for the season and playoffs...

      Originally posted by Jay@Section204
      I thought we already knew this?

      Or perhaps the rest of the country is just now figuring it out...

      The Bulls aren't very good at keeping secrets.
      I think this is the first announcement that he is out for the remainder of the season, including the playoffs.

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      • #4
        Re: Eddy Curry out for the season and playoffs...

        The Tribune doesn't keep much of an archive, but based on this article from a week ago, I was assuming he was done for the year.

        http://chicagosports.chicagotribune....ulls-headlines


        EDIT - because its about to disappear off the archives, here it is...

        I guess they didn't officially rule him out of the playoffs then, but I thought the tone of this was clear that they were not optimistic.


        /sports/basketball/bulls/cs-050407curry,1,3033362.story?coll=cs-bulls-headlines

        Bulls may end season without Curry
        Further tests set for irregular heartbeat
        By K.C. Johnson
        Tribune staff reporter

        April 7, 2005, 10:10 PM CDT

        ORLANDO -- Caution and concern have replaced the early optimism that characterized the Bulls' reaction to Eddy Curry's irregular heartbeat.

        The Bulls released a statement Thursday saying results from tests performed over the last week had been inconclusive and Curry would undergo further evaluation by specialists in Boston and Minnesota.

        His playing availability is uncertain, but team officials are preparing to go without Curry for the final eight regular-season games and possibly the playoffs.

        "I'm feeling fine and really miss my teammates, but I agree with the medical staff with regard to going through this process in a thorough, conservative, cautious manner," Curry said in the statement. "This has been draining on both me and my family, and I want to thank everyone for not invading our privacy.

        "I would also like to thank all my fans for their prayers and concern for me and my family. Once all the testing is completed and I have more answers, I will talk to those of you seeking comments from me."

        General manager John Paxson said as recently as Tuesday that having Curry play limited minutes Friday night against the New York Knicks was possible. Through a team spokesman, Paxson declined to answer questions Thursday, but he did comment in the statement.

        "I've said from the beginning that we were going to be extremely thorough in this matter, and that has not changed," Paxson said. "Eddy has been evaluated by the best doctors in the field and continues to do so.

        "Our first priority is Eddy's health, and we are going to be absolutely certain we have all the answers we need before he returns to the court."

        The court is where an interesting dynamic remains.

        On the one hand, the Bulls are 10-1 in their last 11 games and sit in fourth place, good enough for home-court advantage in the Eastern Conference playoffs. On the other, each game seems to bring a new injury or problem to a team that continues to show mental fortitude.

        Othella Harrington rejoined the team Thursday night in New York after his wife gave birth to a daughter, Ava, on Wednesday. Harrington, averaging 7.8 points on 53.1 percent shooting, will provide a much-needed post option to lessen the pressure on perimeter players.

        "There really is a burden there," coach Scott Skiles said. "I've been there myself as a player, and when you're on a team that maybe struggles to get shots right close in the paint, you feel like you have to make every shot.

        "The last two games we've gotten great looks. We just haven't been able to make a very good percentage."

        But Skiles could talk only about X's and O's and basketball for so long Thursday. He's fully aware of the impact the loss of Curry would have. Beyond basketball, Curry is one of the most popular and likable players on the Bulls, and strong chemistry has been cited all season as a reason for the Bulls' surprising success.

        "It's tough for us as a team because, obviously, Eddy means a lot more to us and a lot more to me than just having a teammate around," said Tyson Chandler, one of Curry's closest friends. "We have to move on as a team, and we can't look forward to him coming back. We have to go game by game and expect him not to be here. We have to play like that.

        "But it's definitely a little different on the plane rides. It's definitely a little different on the bus rides. Normally, we're kind of together in the back laughing and joking, playing games and stuff. It's hard."

        Perhaps the hardest part is the Bulls are playing meaningful games in April and into May, and Curry, who has known only losing as a pro, is missing them. He committed himself to getting into good physical condition over the summer and played big in big games several times this season.

        The payoff, however, might not be there. Curry, the Bulls' leading scorer, will miss his sixth straight game Friday night.

        The original plan called for Curry to work out Tuesday and Wednesday at the Berto Center while wearing a monitor to track his heart's rhythm and electrical activity. Those plans were shelved as the team awaited results from a CT angiogram performed Monday to monitor blood flow.

        Team officials weren't talking Thursday, but it is possible medical personnel didn't like the results from that test.

        It's easy to understand why the Bulls are being cautious with a player in whom they expect to make a multimillion-dollar investment this summer.

        "There's no question we miss Eddy," Skiles said. "I'm not trying to minimize that. But this doesn't change a whole lot how we do things. We're so late in the game now, we can't just all of a sudden leave the page and start trying to do things and make up for somebody's loss. We just have to play the other guys in his spot."

        The other guys are producing. Harrington has played well. Antonio Davis sank the winning free throw in Wednesday night's overtime victory over Orlando. Curry or no Curry, the Bulls' magic number is two to clinch their first playoff berth in seven seasons.

        "The mental toughness of our guys really has been extraordinary this year, no doubt about it," Skiles said.

        "You can trace this all the way back to the summer and to training camp. We had a good foundation. When stuff gets rocky during the season, if you can get together in the gym and sort of just revisit the things you've been working on all along, it's important."

        That's what the Bulls did Thursday in a brief practice at TD Waterhouse Centre. The news about Curry hung over the team like a cloud.

        "I still haven't talked to him," Chandler said. "I just get word from people who have talked to him. He has his family with him. He has support people around him. I hope he's comfortable and feeling good."

        kcjohnson@tribune.com
        Copyright © 2005, The Chicago Tribune


        One more edit: "The news about Curry hung over the team like a cloud."
        Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
        Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
        Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
        Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
        And life itself, rushing over me
        Life itself, the wind in black elms,
        Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you

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          Re: Eddy Curry out for the season and playoffs...

          ESPNEWS reports that it could be career threatening, bcause he may need a difibulator or a pace maker.

          *sry if someone already said this*

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          • #6
            Re: Eddy Curry out for the season and playoffs...

            When I first heard he had an irregular heart beat, I was really surprised they didn't just tell everyone then that he was out for the season because it's a pretty serious condition.

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            • #7
              Re: Eddy Curry out for the season and playoffs...

              All right, I changed my mind about the Celtics. Bring on the Bulls!

              We just need to win everything from here out, and we'll get the #4 seed.

              Beautiful.
              This space for rent.

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              • #8
                Re: Eddy Curry out for the season and playoffs...

                Wow - that guy just killed us this year.
                The best exercise of the human heart is reaching down and picking someone else up.

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                • #9
                  Re: Eddy Curry out for the season and playoffs...

                  Originally posted by PacerFan31
                  ESPNEWS reports that it could be career threatening, bcause he may need a difibulator or a pace maker.
                  That's a damn shame. Sounds like he may have something akin to what killed Reggie Lewis or Hank Gathers.

                  Here's an interesting article:

                  http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/sports/5767217.htm

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                  • #10
                    Re: Eddy Curry out for the season and playoffs...

                    Originally posted by Anthem
                    All right, I changed my mind about the Celtics. Bring on the Bulls!

                    We just need to win everything from here out, and we'll get the #4 seed.

                    Beautiful.
                    bulls are still dangerous. their best guys are their guards anyway (hinrich, gordon). anyway, bulls' frontline is still intact, with chandler and a. davis filling in.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Eddy Curry out for the season and playoffs...

                      Originally posted by Anthem
                      All right, I changed my mind about the Celtics. Bring on the Bulls!

                      We just need to win everything from here out, and we'll get the #4 seed.

                      Beautiful.
                      You know, maybe I shouldn't even comment on this but I really hope you aren't serious about this.

                      "Beautiful" is the comment that you use when someone is diagnosed with a potential life threatening illness?

                      I understand looking for every advantage, especially in our troubled season, but "Beautiful" just doesn't strike me as the way to go here.


                      Basketball isn't played with computers, spreadsheets, and simulations. ChicagoJ 4/21/13

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                      • #12
                        Re: Eddy Curry out for the season and playoffs...

                        Originally posted by PacerFan31
                        ESPNEWS reports that it could be career threatening, bcause he may need a difibulator or a pace maker.

                        *sry if someone already said this*
                        I'm very curious as to what kind of rhythm he goes into. There is a world of differance between needing a defib & a pace maker.

                        I'm just guessing here but I would bet he either is going into SVT or A-Fib but he could very easily be having PVC's or even bouts of V-Tach. Somebody his size wouldn't suprise me if he might have WPW syndrome either.

                        Lots of things it could be, none of which are good. Scary really for somebody that young.


                        Basketball isn't played with computers, spreadsheets, and simulations. ChicagoJ 4/21/13

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                        • #13
                          Re: Eddy Curry out for the season and playoffs...

                          Originally posted by Peck
                          You know, maybe I shouldn't even comment on this but I really hope you aren't serious about this.

                          "Beautiful" is the comment that you use when someone is diagnosed with a potential life threatening illness?

                          I understand looking for every advantage, especially in our troubled season, but "Beautiful" just doesn't strike me as the way to go here.
                          Ehh, that's probably fair. I didn't read carefully enough, I guess. I'll go back, but I didn't see any indication that he was actually in any danger, the only question was whether or not he'd play again. Yes, these things can be "potentially life-threatening" but so can driving your car. There's a lot of space between "may never play professional basketball again" and "is in danger of dying." If he's closer to the second, then my apologies. I was under the impression that they're nowhere near suspecting the first.

                          I went for a long time with tachycardia, which is somewhat similar. I never fainted, but I experienced extreme weakness and wooziness. I have an enlarged heart because it worked so hard for so long. And at the other side of a lot of tests, I don't feel like I'm in danger. The danger in these things is in not paying attention. He'll have the best doctors in the world looking after him.

                          Do you really think his life is in danger?
                          This space for rent.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Eddy Curry out for the season and playoffs...

                            Originally posted by Anthem
                            -snip- The danger in these things is in not paying attention. He'll have the best doctors in the world looking after him.

                            Do you really think his life is in danger?
                            Good thing he plays for the Bulls and not the Pacers, then.

                            Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
                            Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
                            Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
                            Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
                            And life itself, rushing over me
                            Life itself, the wind in black elms,
                            Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you

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                            • #15
                              Re: Eddy Curry out for the season and playoffs...

                              Originally posted by Peck
                              . Somebody his size wouldn't suprise me if he might have WPW syndrome either.
                              That can be ruled out with an ECG can't it? I was diagnosed last summer for a irregular heart beat and a murmur. With that adn other characteristics they told me I was a good candidate to have WPW and had to get a ECG.
                              Just because you're offended, doesn't mean you're right.” ― Ricky Gervais.

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