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    So much for Peyton running Kubiak's offense this season....
    Glad they figured out that was dumb everybody else knew in week 1

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    So much for Peyton running Kubiak's offense this season....
    Yeah, that went out the window quick. Why Kubiak would want to run Kubiak's offense with Peyton Manning is beyond me. It is like getting a Bentley on to drive 55 on the highway.

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    Yeah, that went out the window quick. Why Kubiak would want to run Kubiak's offense with Peyton Manning is beyond me. It is like getting a Bentley on to drive 55 on the highway.
    Bentleys are luxury cars, I would expect them to go normal speeds. Koenigsegg on the other hand.

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    Just saw the 4th and 1 throw to Thomas for a TD. Great stuff.

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    Manning is the king of the pick 6...
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    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-...-not-in-denver

    Reports are Manning wants to play next season... even if it's not in Denver...

    Meanwhile, rumors are circulating that as long as Brock doesn't soil his hat that Denver might not reinsert Manning back into the lineup even if healthy.

    This is the scenario Irsay wisely (IMHO) sought to avoid....
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    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-...-not-in-denver

    Reports are Manning wants to play next season... even if it's not in Denver...

    Meanwhile, rumors are circulating that as long as Brock doesn't soil his hat that Denver might not reinsert Manning back into the lineup even if healthy.

    This is the scenario Irsay wisely (IMHO) sought to avoid....

    "I'm told he currently intends to play next year, even if it's not with the Broncos," Florio said during NBC's pregame show on Sunday night.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-...-not-in-denver

    Everyone knows that Manning is obviously a complete control freak. A quote like that isn't leaked to one of the premier insiders in the NFL unless Manning himself signs off on it. Manning controls everything and this is a textbook example of what Irsay meant when he said that Manning is a politician. This was strategically leaked just hours after Osweiler won his first start.....and done so on the highest rated overall television program on the country. Manning wanted to get maximum attenion.

    Sorry, but that's just classless on the part of Manning and his camp. It's deliberately giving the finger to what Osweiler and the team accomplished without Peyton. Instead of Broncos country talking about the solid win, everyone's debating over what they're going to do with Peyton and where he will be playing next year.

    He just needs to hang it up before he seriously embarrasses himself. It was a hell of a comeback after getting his neck drilled into.....something a lot of people doubted he could do. Leaking news about playing for another team just hours after Osweiler had the biggest day of his career is just a crappy move and is not something that a good teammate would do. And some people thought that Manning would co-exist with Luck here. LOL.
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    Is Manning currently sitting because it was his (or his doctor's) choice? ...Or was it the horrendous game he had that basically got him benched last week, and the team taking the decision out of his hands?

    Manning has played hurt before. Heck, reports said he wanted to come back for the Colts' final game(s) and just play on redzone plays in his neck surgery season. I'm not saying a healthy Manning might not be fine to start, but I'm not sure we'll ever see a healthy Manning again. Or if an aging Manning realizes what he can and cannot do physically (regardless of what his heart or mind is saying).
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    "I'm told he currently intends to play next year, even if it's not with the Broncos," Florio said during NBC's pregame show on Sunday night.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-...-not-in-denver

    Everyone knows that Manning is obviously a complete control freak. A quote like that isn't leaked to one of the premier insiders in the NFL unless Manning himself signs off on it. Manning controls everything and this is a textbook example of what Irsay meant when he said that Manning is a politician. This was strategically leaked just hours after Osweiler won his first start.....and done so on the highest rated overall television program on the country. Manning wanted to get maximum attenion.

    Sorry, but that's just classless on the part of Manning and his camp. It's deliberately giving the finger to what Osweiler and the team accomplished without Peyton. Instead of Broncos country talking about the solid win, everyone's debating over what they're going to do with Peyton and where he will be playing next year.

    He just needs to hang it up before he seriously embarrasses himself. It was a hell of a comeback after getting his neck drilled into.....something a lot of people doubted he could do. Leaking news about playing for another team just hours after Osweiler had the biggest day of his career is just a crappy move and is not something that a good teammate would do. And some people thought that Manning would co-exist with Luck here. LOL.
    I say this all the time, but I think Florio is a complete hack. He floats stuff like this out there all the time. Did anyone see Dungy's reaction to it? Dude was shocked at what he heard. Wasn't acting, true shock, and then Dungy even refuted it. I'm gonna believe Dungy on this one. Florio is terrible.

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    I say this all the time, but I think Florio is a complete hack. He floats stuff like this out there all the time. Did anyone see Dungy's reaction to it? Dude was shocked at what he heard. Wasn't acting, true shock, and then Dungy even refuted it. I'm gonna believe Dungy on this one. Florio is terrible.
    A hack? I don't know about that. His site has routinely broken some of the biggest NFL news over the years.

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    I say this all the time, but I think Florio is a complete hack. He floats stuff like this out there all the time. Did anyone see Dungy's reaction to it? Dude was shocked at what he heard. Wasn't acting, true shock, and then Dungy even refuted it. I'm gonna believe Dungy on this one. Florio is terrible.
    Well keep in mind that Manning didn't know if Orsweiler was going to win or not. Once Orsweiler won and started getting dap for that win, Manning had to act quickly to get his name back in the news. When all of this was going on, Dungy was sitting in Rockefeller Center, so I'm not surprised that he wasn't in the loop.

    This all fell together way too perfectly to be a coincidence. Orsweiler wins and starts getting a lot of credit......then right before the most watched show on television, a big name insider just happens to say that Manning wants to play next season? Come on, that's just obvious Manning PR wizardry there. Nothing gets said about Manning's intentions unless Manning wants it said. Like Irsay said, he's a masterful politician. I think it's 99.99999% certain that Peyton was behind that, and if so it was pretty poor etiquette on his part.

    Don't forget that Manning and Farve are amazingly tied for the most wins all-time by a starting quarterback (186 each). It has to drive Manning absolutely insane that he's getting benched when he's just one game away from breaking that record. There's also the fact that they play the Pats this week, which you know he wants to be a part of.

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    ............ they play the Pats this week, which you know he wants to be a part of.
    Yeah, that's not gonna happen. Saw that Brock gets the start again this week.

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    Yeah, that's not gonna happen. Saw that Brock gets the start again this week.
    If Manning himself feels he can play this week you can bet there's some behind the scenes drama going on and private and public manipulation will be at play with Manning pulling the strings.

    Like I said, we're into the territory that Irsay wanted to avoid with Manning so close to his expiration date and coming off of a major surgery with a murky prognosis.
    I had a friend tell me that the general populace in Denver isn't as Manning-centric as Indiana, so as bad as this situation could get, I'm still not sure it wouldn't have been worse in Indy. Let alone if Indy would've passed up Luck to trade for a king's ransom and let Manning play out his career in Indy. A lot of the people that were pining for Manning to stay would be flipping their position as our QB future lost focus in just 3-4 short years. And still there'd be those that couldn't/wouldn't let go of Manning and would be chanting "One more year" even if he announced his own retirement, on his own terms, from a wheelchair.
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    People creating a controversy where there isn't one. Peyton is in North Carolina seeing a doctor for his foot. He's clearly resting right now. Brock will start until Peyton is right.

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    People creating a controversy where there isn't one. Peyton is in North Carolina seeing a doctor for his foot. He's clearly resting right now. Brock will start until Peyton is right.
    Peyton was right as he'll be the rest of the way to start the year and he sucked.

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    People creating a controversy where there isn't one. Peyton is in North Carolina seeing a doctor for his foot. He's clearly resting right now. Brock will start until Peyton is right.
    There was definitely a controversy there. Hours after Brock O. got the first win of his career, Mike Florio appears on the highest rated television show in the US and says that Manning will play elsewhere in 2016 if not for Denver. That's just not some sort of coincidence that happens out of nowhere. That was a masterful Manning PR move designed to take attention off of Brock O. and put it back on him. Clever PR, but it wasn't being a good teammate if he was behind it.
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    Peyton Manning providing scouting report to Broncos' starting QB Brock Osweiler
    By Troy E. Renck

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    Peyton Manning appeared in the locker room Wednesday wearing a green Manning Passing Academy shirt. He is forever a quarterback. But exactly when he will be throwing the football again remains an open-ended question.

    Manning will spend seven to ten days in a walking cast, which he wore on Wednesday, followed by strengthening exercises. He will not play this week or next week. His return depends on how the torn plantar fascia in his left foot responds to rest and rehab.

    The Broncos seem to have tipped their hand to the severity of Manning's injury by signing quartback Christian Ponder on Wednesday. He will serve as a third-stringer behind Brock Osweiler and rookie Trevor Siemian. Ponder provides protection for a potential extended absence by Manning.

    After receiving a second opinion from noted foot and ankle specialist Dr. Robert Anderson on Monday, Manning elected for a non-surgical treatment. The Broncos believe Manning has a chance to return and contribute, otherwise they could have placed him on the season-ending injured reserve to make room on the roster for Ponder.

    "Absolutely," coach Gary Kubiak said. "He's doing everything he can to come back. We keep going week to week, but he's doing everything possible to get back."

    Manning, 39, attended team meetings and part of practice on Wednesday, a pattern he's expected to follow until he recovers. He spoke with Osweiler, providing insight on how the New England Patriots might defend him.

    "Peyton has been great to me," Osweiler said. "He's talking me through all of his past experiences against the Patriots. He was helping me out at practice, asking me questions. I love having him around. It's a great brain to pick."

    Manning faces a difficult recovery given the nature of his injury. A full rupture releases the pain. As does surgery. Both require six to eight weeks recovery time, which would place Manning's availability this season in jeopardy. The walking cast immobilizes the left heel. When the cast is removed, Manning will require time to regain strength.

    The test arrives when Manning practices again. He has proven to be one of the league's toughest players ó this is the first time he's missed games for anything other than neck surgery. But this goes beyond any pain threshold as the injury can compromise his ability to compete at an acceptable level.

    Manning first injured the foot against Green Bay and aggravated it on the artifical turf at Lucas Oil Stadium. Leading up to the game against the Kansas City Chiefs, teammates were uncertain if Manning would play because he didn't practice until late in the week.

    They haven't given up on seeing Manning again.

    "It could be beneficial down the road if we have both Brock and Peyton. They are different. And you never know what's going to happen," tight end Virgil Green said. "We just want to see Peyton get healthy."

    Manning's injury prevented his 17th matchup with 38-year-old Tom Brady. Brady has gone 11-5 against Manning.

    "There's nobody that has more respect for Peyton than me outside of probably his parents and his brothers," Brady said. "If anybody can appreciate what he's accomplished it's me. He's just been remarkable in every part of his career. He's been a tremendous player. It's unfortunate."

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    That's a Denver Post writer who covers the Broncos.

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    http://www.9news.com/story/sports/nf...rock/76326960/

    Why is national sports media want to twist information whether Peyton wants to play in 2016 or beyond for Broncos or elsewhere if it's not coming directly from him? What are your personal thoughts on hearing this ridiculous rumor? I just hope Denver media have better respect for Manning and the Broncos compared to those who are coming from National outlets. Nouri M. Marrakchi

    Nouri - The report was delivered by Mike Florio, who is a giant in the NFL media industry. He primarily gathers reports from others and re-blogs with his own commentary on the website Pro Football Talk.

    His gig as an NFL Insider on NBC's Sunday Night Football has raised his profile to gargantuan proportions. He has gathered his sources over the years.

    I was surprised by the report. Let me preface this by saying I do know when Peyton Manning first signed his five-year, $96 million deal with the Broncos in 2012, his plan was to complete that contract. Prior to the 2014 season, he went on record with me saying his goal was to complete the contract.

    When in March of this season he took a pay cut from $19 million to $15 million for the 2015 season, but left his non-guaranteed $19 million salary intact for 2016, his intention was to play two more years. He said as much during an offseason press conference back on April 28 when asked if he was looking at this season as his farewell tour: "I wouldn't call it that. That's not how I see it."

    However, recent events have clearly thrown Manning a curveball. He has not responded well to injuries as he has in the past. Injuries are negatively affecting his performance. Which is what happens to aging players.

    After he slumped in the second half of last season, Manning did contemplate retirement. He wasn't thinking that way through seven games last season when he had 22 touchdowns against 3 interceptions. At that point it was clear he could play for 2 Ĺ more years.

    But his second-half slump last season did cause some personal reflection. He will do so again after this season.

    But I don't think he'll give it much thought until then.

    Since his April presser, Manning has brushed off such inquiries about his future. He almost always dismisses big-picture, deep-thought questions. He compartmentalizes like no one else this side of Bill Belichick.

    Even when Manning was throwing four touchdowns and 400 yards nearly every game in 2013, he never talked about the pace he was on to set records. He would only review the last game and give his thoughts about the next game.

    By going about it one day at a time, one game at a time, he wound up breaking all those records in 2013.

    The Manning I know would not give serious thought about next year or the possibility of playing for another team in 2016. But it's not like we meet for beers once a week.

    Florio felt strongly enough about his information to go with the report. I'm not dismissing the possibility Manning will play next year, even if it's for another team. It's not the way I'd bet, but I don't think Manning has given it serious thought one way or the other.

    I'll ask Manning about it this week, but I was told he was insulted by the report. He arranged to see foot specialist Dr. Robert Anderson in North Carolina to check out his plantar fasciitis in his left foot because he wants to help the Broncos this year.


    Do you find it immature of Peyton Manning not congratulating or making any comment on Brock's first NFL win? I thought Peyton was a classier act than that. Lisa Thomas

    Lisa -Manning did congratulate Osweiler. Manning is a class act.

    It's incredible all these sidebar stories on Manning. They are all so irrelevant. Whether or not Manning congratulates Osweiler (he did) is irrelevant. Whether or not Manning travelled to Chicago (he didn't) is irrelevant. Whether or not Manning plays next year, and for another team, as of today, is irrelevant.

    All that's relevant is Manning didn't play against the Bears and Osweiler did. It's relevant that Osweiler is starting this week against the Patriots. It's also relevant whether or not Manning dresses as Osweiler's backup for the game. He may.

    All that other stuff is gossip. We all know gossip is fascinating. It generates a great business. But it has no bearing on whether the Broncos win the Super Bowl this season.
    Small snippet of a Q/A with a Broncos Writer for the Denver Post

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    I didn't read anything that discredited Florio's report except for guesses and wishful thinking. Either Florio has a source or he doesn't but nothing in those articles tells me Florio made it up out of thin air (in fact there seems to be some validation that Manning planned to play another season after this all along). There's only speculation that this all might've changed his mind with absolutely no sources cited and simply some connecting of the dots and guessing. And there's every reason to speculate the Broncos might be ready to move on from Manning. Bronco fans don't have the emotional connection that Indy fans do so it'll be an easy decision if Brock plays well.

    So it's not really a surprise that Florio could have a legitimate source on Manning planning to play next season... somewhere... even if it is not for the Broncos (who may not even want him).
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    Another sad turn in the Manning saga:
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    Something leads me to believe that, since Peyton hasn't announced his retirement, he will not retire after this season. Peyton is going the route of Brett Favre, and will keep playing until his body completely falls apart.
    Being unable to close out a game in which you have a comfortable lead in the 4th Q = Pulling a Frank Vogel

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    Something leads me to believe that, since Peyton hasn't announced his retirement, he will not retire after this season. Peyton has gone the route of Brett Favre, and kept playing until his body completely fell apart.
    Fixed it for you...
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    I wouldn't be completely shocked if true.

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