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  • New York Times: Deflating Deflategate, the evidence and methodology of the Wells report is deeply flawed, says independent study

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/06/14..._r=3&referrer=







    Originally posted by New York Times
    BEFORE “Deflategate,” the National Football League’s most recent controversy, there was “Bountygate,” in which New Orleans Saints officials were accused of offering bonuses to Saints players who injured members of opposing teams — a policy alleged to have been in place from 2009 to 2011. Initially, several Saints officials and players were penalized by the N.F.L.

    In 2012, however, we published an analysis of N.F.L. injury data that found that the Saints injured fewer opposing players than all but two teams did in 2009, and fewer than all but one team did from 2009 to 2011. Even if Saints officials offered “bounties,” there was no good evidence that Saints players were influenced by them.


    We presented our findings at an N.F.L. hearing in November 2012. The next month, the N.F.L. vacated all the players’ suspensions.

    Considering that our impartiality was at least implicitly recognized by the N.F.L. in the past, we believe that our analysis of the evidence in Deflategate, in a studyreleased Friday by the American Enterprise Institute, could help resolve this latest controversy.


    Deflategate is a dispute about whether the New England Patriots used deliberately underinflated footballs in their playoff victory over the Indianapolis Colts in January. (Each N.F.L. team provides its own footballs when on offense, and an underinflated football may be easier to handle in cold or wet conditions.)


    The N.F.L. commissioned a study, known as the Wells report, that concluded that it was “more probable than not” that Patriots personnel deliberately violated the rules and that Tom Brady, the Patriots quarterback, was aware of it. Following the release of the Wells report last month, the N.F.L. penalized the Patriots organization and suspended Mr. Brady for four games.


    Our study, written with our colleague Joseph Sullivan, examines the evidence and methodology of the Wells report and concludes that it is deeply flawed. (We have no financial stake in the outcome of Deflategate.)

    The Wells report’s main finding is that the Patriots balls declined in pressure more than the Colts balls did in the first half of their game, and that the decline is highly statistically significant. For the sake of argument, let’s grant this finding for now. Even still, it alone does not prove misconduct. There are, after all, two possibilities. The first is that the Patriots balls declined too much. The second — overlooked by the Wells report — is that the Colts balls declined too little.


    The latter possibility appears to be more likely. The Wells report notes the expected pressure for the footballs at halftime in the Patriots-Colts game, factoring in the decline in pressure to be expected when a ball, inflated in a warm room, has been moved to a cold outdoor field. If the Patriots deflated their balls, their pressure levels at halftime should have fallen below the expected level, while the Colts balls at halftime should have hovered around that level.


    But when we analyzed the data provided in the Wells report, we found that the Patriots balls declined by about the expected amount, while the Colts balls declined by less. In fact, the pressure of the Colts balls was statistically significantly higherthan expected. Contrary to the report, the significant difference between the changes in pressure of the two teams’ balls was not because the pressure of the Patriots balls was too low, but because that of the Colts balls was too high.


    How could this be? The report’s own findings suggest an explanation: At halftime, N.F.L. officials measured the pressure of “only a sample” of the Colts balls (four out of 12) before they ran out of time; the second half of the game was about to begin. This implies that the Colts balls sat in the warm room where they were to be measured — and thus increased in pressure — for almost the entirety of halftime before being measured.

    All of the 11 available Patriots balls, by contrast, were measured at halftime, which suggests that they were measured earlier, when they were colder — and thus lower in pressure. Although this explanation contradicts the Wells report’s conclusions, it fits all the evidence.


    There are other factors discussed in our study that undermine support for the Wells report’s conclusions. For example, there is considerable uncertainty concerning the actual pressure of the footballs. The N.F.L. official who checked the pressure before the game used some combination of two pressure gauges to measure the Patriots and Colts balls, but it is not known which particular combination.

    One of the gauges, as the report notes, records pressures that are higher than the other. If the official used that gauge to measure the Patriots balls (but not the Colts balls) pregame, then those balls may well have started out with too little air, which could explain a later appearance of intentional deflation. The report, however, does not consider that possibility.

    Our recommendation? When the N.F.L. hears Mr. Brady’s appeal of his suspension later this month, it should proceed with the knowledge that the Wells report is unreliable.

    Kevin A. Hassett is the director of economic studies, and Stan A. Veuger is a resident scholar, at the American Enterprise Institute

    Before joining AEI, Dr. Hassett was a senior economist at the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and an associate professor of economics and finance at Columbia (University) Business School. He served as a policy consultant to the US Department of the Treasury during the George H. W. Bush and Bill Clinton administrations.

    Before joining AEI, Dr. Veuger was a teaching fellow at Harvard University and Universitat Pompeu Fabra. He was a 2012-2013 National Review Institute Washington Fellow, and he is a board member of The Altius Society and of the Washington, D.C. chapter of the Netherland-American Foundation. He is a graduate of Utrecht University and Erasmus University Rotterdam, and holds an M.Sc. in Economics from Universitat Pompeu Fabra, as well as A.M. and Ph.D. degrees, also in Economics, from Harvard University.
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    https://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploa...lls-report.pdf
    Last edited by Slick Pinkham; 06-12-2015, 09:45 PM.
    The poster "pacertom" since this forum began (and before!). I changed my name here to "Slick Pinkham" in honor of the imaginary player That Bobby "Slick" Leonard picked late in the 1971 ABA draft (true story!).

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    Re: New York Times: Deflating Deflategate, the evidence and methodology of the Wells report is deeply flawed, says independent study

    Let it go, Slick.

    Brady's suspended for 4 games. It's not getting reduced. Goodell would get rid of Brady for good if he could. The P(recesion) S(trength) I(ntelligence) NFL tweet proved that. As DeMaurice Smith said, "The Wells report accomplished exactly what the NFL wanted it to."

    It's over. I don't like it either. But you just have to accept it.

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    • #3
      Re: New York Times: Deflating Deflategate, the evidence and methodology of the Wells report is deeply flawed, says independent study

      He is getting punished for something that clearly did not happen.

      There is no way that he is "going to let it go" without it being reduced to 0 games and 0 fine.

      I don't expect Goodell to do that, but a judge will, if Brady pushes it that far.
      The poster "pacertom" since this forum began (and before!). I changed my name here to "Slick Pinkham" in honor of the imaginary player That Bobby "Slick" Leonard picked late in the 1971 ABA draft (true story!).

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        Re: New York Times: Deflating Deflategate, the evidence and methodology of the Wells report is deeply flawed, says independent study

        Originally posted by Slick Pinkham View Post
        He is getting punished for something that clearly did not happen.

        There is no way that he is "going to let it go" without it being reduced to 0 games and 0 fine.

        I don't expect Goodell to do that, but a judge will, if Brady pushes it that far.
        Well, Brady will have to push it that far, because Goodell won't be reducing it at all.

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        • #5
          Re: New York Times: Deflating Deflategate, the evidence and methodology of the Wells report is deeply flawed, says independent study

          The NFL has painted themselves in a corner. By now even they must know that nothing likely happened but 31 fan bases and owners don't care about the truth. The one cowardly owner who counts chose money over loyalty, honor, respect and legacy.


          All comes down to Brady and the NFLPA.

          Sure, the only way this gets cleared is if Brady's willing to absolutely go the distance. I will be stunned if he doesn't though, even if in the process he essentially has to tell Bob Kraft to go shove it when Kraft encourages him to accept a "deal"
          The poster "pacertom" since this forum began (and before!). I changed my name here to "Slick Pinkham" in honor of the imaginary player That Bobby "Slick" Leonard picked late in the 1971 ABA draft (true story!).

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          • #6
            Re: New York Times: Deflating Deflategate, the evidence and methodology of the Wells report is deeply flawed, says independent study

            As soon as I saw the thread title, I knew who started the thread. lol

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            • #7
              Re: New York Times: Deflating Deflategate, the evidence and methodology of the Wells report is deeply flawed, says independent study

              These guys don't seem to be too competent. Or they're just trying to fool us. Saying that there's an easy explanation because the Patriots balls were measured at the start of halftime and the Colts at the end. That seems to be intentionally misleading and not supported by the testimony of the referees. There wasn't anywhere near 13 minutes between testing the last Patriots ball and the first Colts ball. Probably closer to 1 minute as the refs stretched their legs and switched bags. The Wells report discusses the testing process with time estimates. Somehow the first Colts ball tested had warmed up but the last Patriots ball tested hadn't? That's silly.

              Someone should merge this in with the other thread.

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              • #8
                Re: New York Times: Deflating Deflategate, the evidence and methodology of the Wells report is deeply flawed, says independent study

                Originally posted by Slick Pinkham View Post
                He is getting punished for something that clearly did not happen.
                I'll just call complete, absolute BS on this.

                Without spinning everything in circles, explain the 'deflator' term and the various texts about rugby balls and 'the only thing deflating this Sunday will be his passer rating' and the concerned messages from Tommy to the 'deflator' when things started brewing up.

                Give me honest, logical, sensible explanations - and well ..... you can't. So ..........

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                • #9
                  Re: New York Times: Deflating Deflategate, the evidence and methodology of the Wells report is deeply flawed, says independent study

                  American Enterprise Institute calls Ted Wells report “unreliable”
                  Posted by Mike Florio on June 13, 2015, 9:35 AM EDT
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                  With the Tom Brady appeal hearing only 10 days away, it could be time for another Angry Ted Wells conference call.

                  The American Enterprise Institute, whose truly independent analysis helped several former Saints players ultimately avoid discipline in the bounty scandal, has examined the 243-page report from the NFL’s investigator in the #DeflateGate scandal. And AEI has determined the Wells report to be “unreliable.”

                  In an item written for the New York Times, AEI focuses on the conclusion that the Patriots tampered with air pressure in footballs prior to the AFC title game because the footballs used by the Patriots in the first half had a more significant drop in air pressure than the footballs used by the Colts in the first half. AEI rejects that finding based on two factors previously raised here: (1) NFL officials measured only four of the 12 Colts footballs at halftime due to supposed time constraints; and (2) the footballs used by the Colts experienced a likely increase in air pressure while in a warmer environment as the 11 footballs used by the Patriots were tested with two different gauges and then re-inflated.

                  The article in the Times also points out the different measurements from the two gauges used to set the air pressure in the footballs before the game and then to measure them at halftime, and concludes with a recommendation that the Brady appeal hearing “should proceed with the knowledge that the Wells report is unreliable.”

                  A separate and much longer report posted at AEI’s website reaches the same primary conclusion. AEI found that the footballs used by the Colts showed less of a reduction at halftime because they had a longer chance to experience an increase in air pressure in the warmer environment inside the locker room while the footballs used by the Patriots were being tested and re-inflated.

                  This report could give Commissioner Roger Goodell the “new information” needed to disregard the findings of the Wells report, concluding that the evidence did not point to tampering on the day of the AFC title game — and in turn that Brady deserves no punishment. To reach that conclusion, however, Goodell will have to admit that he hired an investigator who did a poor job. Which would mean that Goodell did a poor job in hiring Ted Wells.

                  Which could mean that Goodell will give no credence to the findings of AEI.

                  While the points made by AEI are hardly new, they now have a degree of credibility that makes the work hard to ignore. The real question moving forward is how hard will the Commissioner work to ignore them?




                  http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/06/13/american-enterprise-institute-calls-ted-wells-report-unreliable/
                  The poster "pacertom" since this forum began (and before!). I changed my name here to "Slick Pinkham" in honor of the imaginary player That Bobby "Slick" Leonard picked late in the 1971 ABA draft (true story!).

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                  • #10
                    Re: New York Times: Deflating Deflategate, the evidence and methodology of the Wells report is deeply flawed, says independent study

                    I know I'm going to regret this but I will ask this anyways.

                    Slick, how come Brady has never flat out said he was innocent throughout all of this?

                    I mean if he's getting punished for something that didn't happen that should be easy to prove right?

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                    • #11
                      Re: New York Times: Deflating Deflategate, the evidence and methodology of the Wells report is deeply flawed, says independent study

                      No way. A news agency publishing more scripted pieces for profit to draw readers eyes. I am personally am shocked at this lol.

                      Missing from all this is that all three parties confirmed the starting pressure of their balls in the report. Also the deflator aka ball boy stupid comments are missing too. Wonder why?

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                      • #12
                        Re: New York Times: Deflating Deflategate, the evidence and methodology of the Wells report is deeply flawed, says independent study

                        Originally posted by Basketball Fan View Post
                        I know I'm going to regret this but I will ask this anyways.

                        Slick, how come Brady has never flat out said he was innocent throughout all of this?

                        I mean if he's getting punished for something that didn't happen that should be easy to prove right?
                        Probably too much egg on his face after lying about his relationship with those coaches.


                        You're right in that when a person is wrongly accused of something, their first reaction would normally be to disprove it. With Brady, it's more like "You can't suspend me! I'm Tom Brady! Maybe if I take this to court, someone will realize it and the world will be right again…"

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                        • #13
                          Re: New York Times: Deflating Deflategate, the evidence and methodology of the Wells report is deeply flawed, says independent study

                          Originally posted by LuckSwagger View Post
                          Probably too much egg on his face after lying about his relationship with those coaches.


                          You're right in that when a person is wrongly accused of something, their first reaction would normally be to disprove it. With Brady, it's more like "You can't suspend me! I'm Tom Brady! Maybe if I take this to court, someone will realize it and the world will be right again…"

                          Pretty much and a large part of why people are so upset with him over this. Yes its the Pats and they have baggage but a lot of other teams do as well usually if you are upfront about it I don't think the backlash he's getting would be as bad.

                          However his reaction has been the total opposite and that is what bothers people more than anything.

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                          • #14
                            Re: New York Times: Deflating Deflategate, the evidence and methodology of the Wells report is deeply flawed, says independent study

                            "Some AEI scholars are considered to be some of the leading architects of the second Bush administration's public policy." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americ...rise_Institute

                            I knew there was some reason I wanted to blindly believe these guys!

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                            • #15
                              Re: New York Times: Deflating Deflategate, the evidence and methodology of the Wells report is deeply flawed, says independent study

                              Originally posted by PacerDude View Post
                              Without spinning everything in circles, explain the 'deflator' term and the various texts about rugby balls and 'the only thing deflating this Sunday will be his passer rating' and the concerned messages from Tommy to the 'deflator' when things started brewing up.

                              Give me honest, logical, sensible explanations - and well ..... you can't. So ..........
                              Yo - Slick. Well ??

                              Yeah - thought so.

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