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    They just released the ENTIRE coaching staff. They didn't retain Gase or Del Rio.
    I meant to post that in the other thread but I didn't know that. That changes my opinion for sure.

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    He posted something similar about the Ravens last week. Pretty cocky. Imagine the **** Peyton would get if he did something like this.

    This is why I hate New England so much. They are arrogant, they are pricks.
    I'll never get over his were only going to score 17 points comment. Manning would still be getting hate for that

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    I'll never get over his were only going to score 17 points comment. Manning would still be getting hate for that
    Earlier that season, I think against the Chargers, after throwing a touchdown pass he ran up to a San Diego player and yelled in his face. Under today's rules, 31 quarterbacks would get flagged for that.

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    Earlier that season, I think against the Chargers, after throwing a touchdown pass he ran up to a San Diego player and yelled in his face. Under today's rules, 31 quarterbacks would get flagged for that.
    Brady is neither big nor strong. Some defensive player just needs to knock him on his ***- HARD. Take the penalty and send a message.

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    I'll never get over his were only going to score 17 points comment. Manning would still be getting hate for that
    Well, they didn't score 17 points....they scored 14.

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    Beginning to feel a lot like 2006.
    Except the Colts won't be playing Rex Grossman.
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    Except the Colts won't be playing Rex Grossman.
    Yeah they will be playing a Game Manager that actually understands and embraces his role. Rex Grossman thinking he was Peyton or Marsha cost them so many games.

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    Who cares if Brady yelled in a defenders face? Had Luck done that, he'd be lauded for his fire lol.

    For all the complaints of Pats and Seahawk fans and their douche-ness, some people consider fans that ALWAYS complain about conspiracies, flags that the other team should get, etc - to be equally as douchey. I'm not sayin I believe that, but I'm just saying...the constant gripes about things like that comes off as very whiney.

    You guys are knowledgeable enough about the game to not cry over things like that. Just my opinion, no maliciousness meant whatsoever.

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    Who cares if Brady yelled in a defenders face? Had Luck done that, he'd be lauded for his fire lol.
    Well the NFL cares about that sort of thing since there is a taunting rule. I think that having a penalty for taunting in football is extremely wussy, but it is a rule. It's an extremely subjective one.

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    Except the Colts won't be playing Rex Grossman.

    Well they did beat Tom Brady in 2006....

    But in all seriousness, this feels more like 95 or 03 to me. Fun teams that broke through to the AFC Title game, but had to face nasty AFC opponents on the road in the title game. It definitely doesn't feel like 2006 since the game is at NE instead of Indy. Also, this current team is just getting started, whereas the 2006 team featured 9th year Manning.

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    Well the NFL cares about that sort of thing since there is a taunting rule. I think that having a penalty for taunting in football is extremely wussy, but it is a rule. It's an extremely subjective one.
    Most of the rules in the NFL are not only subjective, but are often in favor of the qb. Not just whatever QB the Colts are playing that week. That was the point of my post

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    Most of the rules in the NFL are not only subjective, but are often in favor of the qb. Not just whatever QB the Colts are playing that week. That was the point of my post
    Most of the rules that favor the QB at least have to do with the game itself. Being subjective with a "taunting" rule is a pure popularity contest. There are rules...and then there is enforcement of the rules.

    I mean, do you really expect Colts fans to be 100% subjective when we're about to play the Pats in the AFCCG? Obviously any good Colts fan despises the Pats....even though they must be respected for an obscene 14 years of dominance. At the end of the day, most sports fans are the same. We watch behind a TV and then rant about it on a computer. Those who win gloat, and those who lose find ways to hate the other team. Everyone would act the opposite if the shoe was on the other foot.
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    Well they did beat Tom Brady in 2006....

    But in all seriousness, this feels more like 95 or 03 to me. Fun teams that broke through to the AFC Title game, but had to face nasty AFC opponents on the road in the title game. It definitely doesn't feel like 2006 since the game is at NE instead of Indy. Also, this current team is just getting started, whereas the 2006 team featured 9th year Manning.
    Yep, this has been a team that has overachieved and broke through the DEN-NE ceiling of the last two seasons. The Colts could be the #2 team in the AFC next season assuming decent health and Luck's continued progression. At some point Brady has to retire.

    The true test for New England is if they are able to sustain success when Brady retires. The Colts are more impressive than New England in that they were able to quickly rebuild from NOTHING after tearing the organization down to the foundation. Can NE do that? The Packers had some bad seasons in Favre's later years and Rodgers was 6-10 his first season. The Colts had one terrible year and then went right back to winning 10+ games.
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    Taunting should be handled after the game through the league office and via fines. A subjective taunting call during a game has an impact on the outcome (or can have anyway). Whereas if it's ignored during the game at least the league office can address it later without letting such a call have any impact on the game.
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    Except the Colts won't be playing Rex Grossman.
    Are we already in the Super Bowl? Because we beat Brady in 2006 too.



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    Well they did beat Tom Brady in 2006....

    But in all seriousness, this feels more like 95 or 03 to me. Fun teams that broke through to the AFC Title game, but had to face nasty AFC opponents on the road in the title game. It definitely doesn't feel like 2006 since the game is at NE instead of Indy. Also, this current team is just getting started, whereas the 2006 team featured 9th year Manning.
    But it shares one important thing with 2006, no one having any optimism going in to the playoffs because of a late season blow out (06 against Jax, 14 against Dallas) the 06 team was completely written off after that Jax game just like most of us did with this team after Dallas.
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    But it shares one important thing with 2006, no one having any optimism going in to the playoffs because of a late season blow out (06 against Jax, 14 against Dallas) the 06 team was completely written off after that Jax game just like most of us did with this team after Dallas.
    I think some of us wondered how seriously the Colts were taking that Dallas game with the play calling on that first series and the fake punt in the shadow of their own goalposts. I know it had me wondering... Still there was concern but there was also that question mark about whether the team was doing anything more than taking some snaps and treating like a preseason game.

    Meanwhile, that Jax game was just inexplicable. I still think our run defense was so bad, not improving at all, and looked so awful that game that we changed things up for the playoffs and actually sold out to stop the run. Which worked remarkably well. Plus I think teams expected to run all over us to the point they kept trying rather than taking what we were giving them which ended up feeding our confidence. Then we got to our old nemesis, the Pats, and we knew each other well enough that gimmicks weren't really a factor. And the Bears were the Bears so....
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    It is gonna be a heck of a game to watch.

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    Looks like 44-degrees and only a slight chance of precipitation for Sunday. Hope the forecast holds and keeps all the options open for the Colt's passing game.

    Common sense says Hoodie will just roll out the heavy package once again and look to run over the Colts defense for 4-quarters and keep the ball out of Luck's hands. I don't trust him.

    If I see Landry line-up on Gronk in press coverage like he did many times on Sunday against Julius Thomas I may puke. IMO that was a sure sign the Colts didn't think Manning was near 100%.

    Since 2010 Brady has produced pretty much an equal number of stinker games in the playoffs vs. good performances. If the Colt's can come up with a scheme to answer the Pats power running attack this game is winnable.

    Not sure Luck has to have the game of his life in order for the Colt's to win but he needs to be damn good, eliminate turnovers & limit the 3 & outs.

    Should the Colt's prevail and if there is a just God Reggie Wayne will catch the winning touchdown in this game.

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    I might be setting myself up for disappointment, but I think the Colts will win. Here's the thing, Peyton Manning always had the whole "can he ever beat NE" question lingering around for almost ten years. Andrew Luck is different than Peyton, and I'm not suggesting he is better, just a different QB. If Luck loses Sunday, than his record vs NE will be 0-4. I just don't think Luck will be that guy that loses to the same team over and over, and has to answer the same question that plagued Peyton Manning early in his career
    Of course you think the Colts will win. I'm almost certain you've picked them to go 18-0 thus far this year.

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    What continues to **** me off is how little credit the Colts are getting for making it this far. Dip ***** like Skip Bayless and Greg Bedard have an agenda against Luck and the Colts and no amount of postseason success or wins will change their minds.

    Luck leads the league in TD passes, wins two playoff games, beats a top team on the road (something Russell Wilson hasn't done) and still gets criticized unnecessarily.

    Beating down the 10-5-1 Bengals- not noteworthy according to the Patsy media. Dominating the 12-4 Broncos, with a top five offense AND defense, at their place? Only happened because Peyton was hurt. Who cares that Denver was undefeated at home this season and won each game by an average of 14 points. Peyton had plenty of time to heal during the bye and the Colts defense made him look bad.

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    What continues to **** me off is how little credit the Colts are getting for making it this far. Dip ***** like Skip Bayless and Greg Bedard have an agenda against Luck and the Colts and no amount of postseason success or wins will change their minds.

    Luck leads the league in TD passes, wins two playoff games, beats a top team on the road (something Russell Wilson hasn't done) and still gets criticized unnecessarily.

    Beating down the 10-5-1 Bengals- not noteworthy according to the Patsy media. Dominating the 12-4 Broncos, with a top five offense AND defense, at their place? Only happened because Peyton was hurt. Who cares that Denver was undefeated at home this season and won each game by an average of 14 points. Peyton had plenty of time to heal during the bye and the Colts defense made him look bad.

    Yeah, it's all "Peyton, Peyton, Peyton, Broncos coaching staff, Elway, Peyton, Peyton, Peyton.......then a minor footnote about how the Colts played an almost perfect January football game with Luck playing spectacular disciplined football." Look, I get it to an extent...the Broncos are a big deal......but Luck and the Colts beating the former Colts QB to go to the AFCCG is a MONUMENTAL ACHIEVEMENT. These Colts were rightfully maligned by fans and media for not playing up to par against the good teams in the regular season, but they deserve massive props for that performance they just turned in. Our defensive backs were just phenomenal and did what you had to do against a Peyton team - disrupt the receivers. We got the one big hit/turnover on Peyton that clearly stuck in his head the rest of the game. And aside from the picks, Luck was just brilliant with his checkdowns and smart throws. Yeah I'm biased, but it just didn't get enough press. That was a HUGE win that a lot of people didn't see coming.

    I can sympathize with non-Colts fans who got tired of the constant Manning coverage. I'm sorry, but it should have been hyped up a lot more that Luck went in there and completely outplayed his predecessor.

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    Also, there is no mention of how the Colts, unlike New England, have been able to get this far in the playoffs with a completely new coaching staff, front office, and roster. This franchise has sustained success despite undergoing a complete rebuild.

    Let's see New England do that when Brady/Belichick retire.

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    Looks like 44-degrees and only a slight chance of precipitation for Sunday. Hope the forecast holds and keeps all the options open for the Colt's passing game.
    Forecast has changed dramatically, lotsa rain and cooling down as the evening goes along

    http://www.intellicast.com/Local/For...ation=USMA9941


    Sunday 90% Precip.
    Rain showers in the morning will evolve into a more steady rain in the afternoon. High around 45F. Winds SSW at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 90%. Rainfall near a quarter of an inch.

    Sunday Night 90% Precip.
    Rain with some snow mixing in late. Low 31F. Winds NNW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precip 90%.

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    Forecast has changed dramatically, lotsa rain and cooling down as the evening goes along

    http://www.intellicast.com/Local/For...ation=USMA9941


    Sunday 90% Precip.
    Rain showers in the morning will evolve into a more steady rain in the afternoon. High around 45F. Winds SSW at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 90%. Rainfall near a quarter of an inch.

    Sunday Night 90% Precip.
    Rain with some snow mixing in late. Low 31F. Winds NNW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precip 90%.
    I still like this for us. Anything to help take Gronk out of the game.

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