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    I was watching ESPN 2 last night I think the show is called NBA Shootaround, probably their best NBA show, 2 hours every Tuesday night
    with all their guys on the show, DA, Steven A, Greg Anthony, Bucher, Legler, Stein.

    Bucher mentioned that he thinks an eastern conference team will win the championship this season, so the conversation naturally turned to the Pacers, Bucher said the Pacers have the best record in the league, and then several of the guys said yes, but that is playing against the weak eastern conference.

    Of course that begs the question, what is the Pacers record against the west? NO one asked that question. If Bucher would have done a little research, he would have shut up a few people

    So I am here to tell those ESPN guys.

    Pacers are 14-6 against the west. That is a 70% winning clip, that is a 57.4 winning pace. According to Pacers.com that is the best record of any team against the west.

    So the next logical question: What western conference teams do the Pacers still have to play.

    @ G. State
    @ Utah
    @ LA Clips
    3 very winnable games, let's say the Pacers go 2-1.

    They also have two very tough road games
    @ Denver
    @ Memphis
    Let's say the Pacers go 1-1.

    They have 3 tough home games
    Kings
    Mavs
    Blazers.

    let's say the pacers go 2-1 in those games.

    That would give the Pacers a total record of 19-9 against the west.

    Wake up ESPN boys and do a little research you might learn something.

    Pacers have played very well against the west, by any measure

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    19-9 would be a 67.9% winning percentage. Not too shabby.

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    .679 ave would put you in 2nd place in the west ahead of SA and LA but behind Sac. (That does not include any percentages from the east just against the west).


    Factor in acouple of games (portland comes to mind) we should have won and we'd be even with Sac.


    Ah well


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    Yeah, I saw that too. Pretty much everybody was giving Bucher a hard time for his prediction, but at least he went out on the limb. The other guys made bold predictions like "2 head coaches in California won't be coaching next season" or "Jim O'Brien will be coaching the 76ers next year".

    Wow, way to be assertive guys.

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    I saw that program as well. I watch it every Tuesday night (it's called NBA2Night Tuesday).

    Bucher did mention, barely audible over the uproar, that "the Pacers have beat those teams". He was referring to someone who mentioned the TWolves, Spurs, and Lakers as being able to beat the Pacers.

    David Aldridge said that the Pacers are a very good team but left it at that.

    Greg Anthony finally admitted that the Pacers have won the most games but he followed it up by stating that the Spurs, last year's champions, didn't have the best record.

    He made a decent point though; just because the Pacers have the most wins doesn't mean that that will translate into a championship or even a great playoff run. I'm suddenly reminded of the year that Miami had the best record with 61 wins but then went out and fizzled against the Knicks.
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    Whoa - I need to expand my Pacerworld a little. MIAMI had 61 wins one year? I don't remember that at all. Sheesh!
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    Actually, the 61-21 Miami Heat team lost in the ECF to the Bulls in 5 games.

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    Naptown, all very good points.

    Someone also mentioned that the Pacers need to win one playoff series first. Very true

    If I were on ESPN, I likely would not pick the Pacers to win it all either, and the playoffs and regular season are different.

    My point was that the pacers have played the west very well, even the best teams.

    T-Wolves - split. Both teams excelled at home
    Kings - Pacers had a chance to win that game even without Ronnie
    Lakers - split
    Spurs - Split, Pacers could have wopn both
    Mavs - Pacers won on road

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    Spurs - Split, Pacers could have wopn both
    I'll go further than than that.

    Spurs - SHOULD have won both. 3 point lead with 3 seconds remaining in regulation, only to lose in O.T.

    Portland - SHOULD have won. 5 point lead with 26 seconds remaining in regulation, only to lose in O.T.

    I'm with Geezer. We need a smiley showing its brains getting blown out.

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    This is just my opinon, but to have a smiley blowing his brains out for espn, would not have to have something in there to blow out? It it is not the east coast or the west coast, then it is not basketball to them. HA

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    Anyone know how NJ, Detroit and NO have done against the West? I don't have time to do the research right now, but my guess is we top them all in that category as well.

    UB, You wouldn't pick the Pacers to come out of the East? Give them their due. If outsiders aren't going to, who is?

    —2nd best record in the league

    —2nd best record against top 10 teams

    —2nd best best road record

    —Best conference record, both conferences

    Don't let the skeptics convince you otherwise, people. The Pacers are a team to be reckoned with this year.

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    Anyone know how NJ, Detroit and NO have done against the West? I don't have time to do the research right now, but my guess is we top them all in that category as well.
    New Jersey:

    11-10

    Detroit:

    11-9

    New Orleans:

    8-9

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    Anyone know how NJ, Detroit and NO have done against the West? I don't have time to do the research right now, but my guess is we top them all in that category as well.

    UB, You wouldn't pick the Pacers to come out of the East? Give them their due. If outsiders aren't going to, who is?

    —2nd best record in the league

    —2nd best record against top 10 teams

    —2nd best best road record

    —Best conference record, both conferences

    Don't let the skeptics convince you otherwise, people. The Pacers are a team to be reckoned with this year.


    Pistons record against top 5 in west
    3-6


    Nets record against top 5
    1-4


    Number of western conf teams the Nets have beaten in their 14 game win streak
    1

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    If they beat Minny they will be getting some serious respect

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    The Nets have the Lakers Sunday in NJ and then play them again in LA next Sunday.

    Very interesting how the Pacers, Nets, Pistons all play on the west coast at the same time, next week.

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    Pistons record against top 5 in west
    3-6


    Nets record against top 5
    1-4


    Number of western conf teams the Nets have beaten in their 14 game win streak
    1

    And what is our record against top 5 in West?

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    Our record against top 5 in west.

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    I was at the Portland/Indiana game and wanted to cry.

    Just hitting free throws down the stretch would have clinched it. Reggie even missed one.

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    I have a breakdown of our record that might interest some of you looking at the details of home & away, west & east, etc.

    I try to update it every couple of weeks or so. I did it for the Pistons and Nets also last year but not this year.

    Here's the link:

    www.powerglance.com/pacers.htm

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    I have a breakdown of our record that might interest some of you looking at the details of home & away, west & east, etc.

    I try to update it every couple of weeks or so. I did it for the Pistons and Nets also last year but not this year.

    Here's the link:

    www.powerglance.com/pacers.htm
    You need to update your link to this forum.

    http://www.pacersdigest.com/phpBB2/

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    I was at the Portland/Indiana game and wanted to cry.

    Just hitting free throws down the stretch would have clinched it. Reggie even missed one.
    Not to mention Stoudamire going unrealistically unconsious the last minute of that game.

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    The Pacer record breakdown is updated through the game with Toronto.

    Here's the page-- www.powerglance.com/pacers.htm

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