Not saying as an "I told you so.", just that I have been under the belief Lance is better in the starting lineup before he managed to do well this season. The kid is good and brings a dimension that Granger couldn't.
I knew this would happen at some point. The Pacers are playing so well and without any drama that Pacers fans have somehow figured out a way to manufacture their own drama.
I think I'm just going to stay away from empty debates like this and enjoy this 1st place Pacers team for what they are currently doing instead of speculating on what ifs.
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Why is this even a conversation or debate right now? We are 15-1 and playing great. Lance is a part of that right now, whereas Danny is not. This team could still use some consistent scoring, but right now until Danny is even practicing/contributing in games, then the constant bashing, comparing to Lance, or hypothetical lineups are kind irrelevant at this point.
Our team is as presently constructed, and until we can count on the captain to come back and make some type of healthy contribution on the floor, this is who we should expect to see for the foreseeable future.
I have no doubt that Danny would have been the difference on the game last night and more to come, just his ability to move without the ball would have been huge. Yes, we'd still lose games even with Danny but that doesn't mean we don't need him.
Kobe is practicing and expected back soon, Rondo has been cleared to practice, and Jordon Farmer just tore his hamstring and is expected to miss 4 weeks. This is one hell of a strain, I'd like to get an update as to why it's taking this long.
6 weeks this week yes? We should see an update by the end of this week IMO, if we don't that would be seriously concerning.
Here's my thing about all this: Danny hurt the calf initially on the 16th, then comes back two days later and plays in a preseason game (actually does well 4-7 for 11 points in 16 minutes) and then re-aggravates the calf presumably damaging the strained muscle more. Why exactly did we bring him back at all in that game? Anyway using the 19th as the first day where he had what I'm going to call the grade 2+ strain which I'm going to assume is the actual reason he has missed the time.
Using that timeline of the 19th, we're at 45 days today so I guess just over 6 weeks. The report that he was running during practice came on Saturday which would have been exactly the 42nd day since the 19th. I'd like to hear something by the end of the week still, another update, perhaps a target return date. That would be my hope, using the 30th as the date we heard of him running, it is still possible IMO that we are just following a very, very conservative recovery time for a grade 2+ strain.
But who knows.
I honestly don't know, the team doesn't desperately need him, but damn it would have been nice to have Danny last night in Portland to spell Lance when he was struggling like that.
We'll see, I really have no idea at this point, but like I said I see no reason we shouldn't see some sort of update on Friday or Saturday of this week. I don't know when/if he'll be back, but that Char/Det double homestand on 12/13 and 12/16 seems like as decent a time as any if he's actually getting healthy. Two opponents we should be beat with multiple days of rest at home between the two games.
Oct 16th until today is 49 days. He did play and aggravate the injury on the 18th (2 days later) which would then be 47 days ago. So it's been 7 full weeks since the initial injury and Friday will start the 8th week since aggravating it. Either way 6 weeks is in the rear view mirror.
I think using the 19th as the beginning of his rehab is more than reasonable, and heck is probably actually being aggressive. You can have as much as a week of rest before you're even allowed to start rehabbing injuries at times.
I'll just put this here so no one forgets about it
- Grade 2 Calf Strain : There is partial tearing of muscle fibers. Full recovery takes approximately 5-8 weeks.
I was hoping that this thread would be buried. I shall call this the Zombie Thread. 1. Because it struts around to top of the page one like a walker. 2. Because I am beginning to think that a Zombie will suit up before Danny.
While I was recovering from my sprained ankle last month, I had a grade 2 sprain, they originally thought I was progressing well, but then got delayed by another two weeks because the soft tissue surrounding my ankle and the achilles tendon were not healing the way they wanted and I could perform the explosive movements they wanted to see from me. **** happens when you're rehabbing soft tissue.
I still have pain in the soft tissue around the ankle, but luckily I've been cleared because I'm not trying to go be an NBA player, I'm just trying to get up and down the court in pick up games at the Monon Center.
I haven't been in this thread that much, and no I don't know when or if Danny will be back, but I really don't understand what some of you are trying to accomplish in here.
Are we trying to say the training staff is incompetent? That Danny isn't working hard enough? That it's been a cover up all along? Who knows, and really who cares. We're 16-2.
You can tell who has been through sports injuries, and who hasn't.
I think it is funny that instead of saying a month to two. They say 6 weeks. That way people don't freak out.
It's like of like getting the flu. It could be a 24 hr thing, it could be a three day thing, there's no way of knowing until you let it run it's course.
I can't find anything official that says he suffered a grade II calf strain... just forum speculation. Maybe I've missed it. With 6 weeks in the rear view mirror you have to start wondering and certainly a grade II looks probable. But then if that is the case, why the initial statement that they expect him to miss 3 weeks?
An update of sorts would be nice. I don't expect to see his medical records opened up or anything. Just a general summary of what is going on that put 3 weeks so far in the rear view mirror and what we should now expect going forward.
Me: Could you clarify that, I've always wondered how you guys get to the grades
Him: Basically that it hurts a lot and will know more in a week or two.
Of course they didn't want to force me to go through an MRI at that point and x-rays were negative and my ankle wasn't showing any gross instability indicating muscle or ligament tears.
So 6 weeks is a forum creation that has become part of the narrative as if it's an official statement. Grade II 3-6 weeks doesn't appear to be anything the Pacers ever said. The forum speculated all of that is what it looks like. The Pacers said 3 weeks.