There is a reason Josh Smith is constantly left out of the all star discussion even though he produces all star stats, you can keep waiting for him to change if you're a Pistons fans, but I'm sure the 8.5 Hawks fans left will tell you that you shouldn't hold your breath.
And he's gotten WORSE since getting to Detrot on that nice fat contract, the lowest amount of 3PA so far for him? 4. He is shooting 7 3s a game at at a 25% clip. Gross.
He11, you didn't even want to draft PG! You and I had some hellacious arguments about my wanting the Pacers to draft PG over Gordon Hayward.
Gordon has turned out to be a nice player, but he's sure no Paul George. I'm so glad Bird drafted a player I wanted named Paul George!!!!!!!!! Thank you Mr. Bird.
I'm also glad Bird drafted a player that year that I felt would be a future Pacers PR nightmare named Lance Stephenson. I really like watching Lance play, and I can truthfully say I prefer him over Granger.
I was annoyed at the Paul George pick at first (though I certainly didn't want Heyward there)...boy howdy, was I ever wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong. I've never been so happy to be wrong.
On the list of things that needs to be fixed from last night, Smith's threes are 4th or 5th. I agree it needs to be sorted out, but it's also not the reason we lost last night.
When we start losing games because of it, I'll get annoyed.
I did not watch the game, although I was very intrigued by the matchup.. So I cannot say that's what lost the game... But that seems (to someone just looking at the box score) like it would have to be a major part.
It's easy to point out his bad threes as what's killing his team, when there is no substitute for what he brings to the table defensively, and if you want to take him out of the game, you're also taking out one of the few forwards in the entire league that can both guard the perimeter and protect the rim.
I value his defense and rebounding. The offense will take care of itself 9 times out of 10, and when it comes to the point where that 10% is a major problem, it'll be addressed.
Again, he shot 7/23 in Memphis and he was the best player on either team in that game. His defense was that good.
I'd rather have Smith shooting poorly from the floor and playing fantastic, energetic defense than a mediocre player that shoots well from the perimeter and gives you nothing defensively. There's more to the game than shooting percentage.
So because he plays good defense, he is allowed to take terrible 3's? I'm sorry, but thats just dumb. If PG was as bad from behind the arc as Smith, and was taking 3's like he is this season I would be pissed.
There is no reason Smith can't keep up that good defense and not take those threes. You can't just learn to live with it because it will get worse. Ask Atlanta.
Like I said, it isn't the only reason or the biggest reason why the Pistons are losing, but it is a reason. Living with it because he does other stuff is dumb. And honestly its an easy fix. Coaches just need to get on him and get him to be aggressive on the offensive end.
Always love postgame threads for the Pacers/Pistons games because we have respected posters who can really give us the view from the other side.
Not that it has never gotten heated, but still...
Smith isn't a me first player. He takes some awful shots, but me first players don't bust their *** making as many hustle plays as he does on a in nightly basis. He's got a shot selection issue, and a lot of it has been the lack of structure and chemistry determining what shots he takes.
He's a good player. He's surrounded by other good players. They'll figure it out.
In the meantime, they are a lot better with his defense and poor shooting than they are without him.
So obviously they've got Smith long term, I assume they'll lock up Moose this summer, those two pretty much are what they are. Monroe can grow a little but he's probably pretty close to his top end I think. So's the idea Drummond harnesses that Superman physical profile and becomes the man at some point? It's just sort of peculiar what Dumars is going for long term to me, unless it's turn Drummond into the Hulk. which is definitely the way I'd go.
It should be noted that smith's contract runs out when it's time to pay drummond, so the flexibility is still there even if we give Monroe a hibbert type contract.
Kstat, I'm legitimately not sure I'm following you here, are you saying there is no one in the NBA that is a better option than Smith when it comes to a defensive stopper, but capable on offense trade off? Or are you saying that no one existed on the Pistons? Or that Smith was the best option available for what was needed at the time?
Until then, I'm going to live with his poor shot selection and trust that he will figure out a way to be more efficient on offense. In the meantime, his defense will win us more games than his offense loses.