Sure in theory, but my point is that if the current starting unit is what's best for the team, then it really doesn't matter what's best for Granger. My point is that even if Granger himself looks better with the starters, it's still not a good thing if the team is even better with Lance starting.
When a team is as stacked as the Pacers, sometimes you can't maximize every single player.
One of the reasons that the Heat were able to crowd our bigs in the post was because they didn't respect Lance's 3 point shot. Lance shot 30.4% from 3 in the ECF series and didn't make the Heat pay for cheating off of him. The situation was even worse when Sam Young played because it allowed LeBron to play free safety since he knew that Sam wouldn't score.
Now, if Lance keeps up the shooting that he is exhibiting NOW. Then hell yeah. It will be a lot harder for them to guard us. But Lance has to keep this up. Please, keep it up, Lance :)
You seriously want to base your statement on a half pre-season game with Danny playing great and ignore how lance performed with the starting unit over a year?
OK, that's fine. We don't need to discuss this further.
Are we clear?
Granger will most likely replace Orlando Johnson/Solo Hill off the bench.
SG: Stephenson (32 minutes), Granger (16 minutes)
SF: George (36 minutes), Granger (12 minutes)
Look, the reason I want Lance off the bench? Because he has more freedom off the bench. Tonight shows that too. Look at his splits. Playing with PG he put up 6 points, 2 boards and 1 assist. Without Paul George? 16 points, 3 boards, 2 assists.
Lance is a play maker with the ball in his hands. Without, he isn't nearly as effective. This is also a huge reason the bench has looked better this year. Because Lance is out there with them a lot.
PG and Lance have more redundant skills than PG and Granger do imo. Granger is better off the ball than Lance. Lance is better with the ball than Granger. I believe that Granger's skill set will compliment the starters more than the bench while Lance's will compliment the bench more than the starters.
This is not a knock on Lance what-so-ever. This is about having a very talented team and seeing which pieces fit where best. This doesn't mean Lance won't play well with the starters or that 5 man unit won't be great. We know thats not the case from what we have seen last year and this year. And Danny would do fine off the bench as well. Guess what? Whoever plays where, this team is gonna win some games. And by some, I mean a lot. And by a lot, I mean we are gonna be playing in June.
We have an excellent shot at winning the title with Lance or Granger starting. Both will be key to winning a title.
As has been the case for the last year, when Granger actually proves that he can consistently do big things for this team, then we'll figure out what role is best for him. I just hope that we see Granger play some consistent minutes sooner rather than later so that these issues can have some resolution. These debates are tough because everything surrounding Granger is in theory. Some think that he can be close to what he was two years ago while others think that he'll be a shell of himself, but no one knows for sure since the guy hasn't played consistent ball in ages. It really clouds the debate and everyone is on different levels since there is nothing concrete to work with.
People's opinions vary a lot when you're judging a game that you can see with your own eyes, so it's infinitely muddier when everyone's playing a guessing game about a guy that hasn't played consistent ball in a very long time.
But yes, if Granger is playing well, I want Granger in the lineup after he comes off the bench while getting used to playing with the team again.
Lance is shooting pretty well people. He is also quite capable of dishing to Paul, Hibbert and West. Why not get ALL the players involved instead of just rely on Granger's perimeter shot. Danny isn't going to facilitate a darn thing. Paul would turn it over if he tried. George Hill protects the ball but is not strong at passing the ball. The bottom line is that I recognize Granger will help spread the floor and hit threes but I think Lance can do some of that and a lot more other things to help when we are competing against the other team's very best players.
If Lance can keep shooting the three well, then you definitely keep him as the starter.
The ones that are act like being a 6th man is a demotion are a very specific group and they have a very specific agenda. They want to see Granger gone from the team yesterday. I mean, we're talking about the guy who said that Granger is a chucker (thinking that Satan is still the coach, I guess?) and the guy that would trade Granger for a bag of Doritos. We're talking about posters that allow their dislike about a player to cloud their basketball judgement.
Important note: I want to make very clear that this post is aimed at the two specific posters that I mention in it. The rest are using basketball arguments instead of allowing our likes and dislikes cloud our judgement.
Granger needs to adapt to the current Pacers team, not the other way around.
I mean, honestly. I shouldn't need to bold every sentence I write to make myself clear. I realize that I may not be extremely eloquent since I'm not a native English speaker but I think that you should be able to understand what I'm saying when I have posted some things time and time again.
BTW: Jeremy Lin was a better player than Lance the past two seasons, and his statistics are about equal to that of Lance so far this season. Nice to try, but way to ultimately miss the point.
You want a closing lineup. Assuming everyone is healthy and we are keeping to a "rule", I expect the five on the floor would be Hill, PG, Granger, Hibbert, and West. Because at full strength, Granger is better until proven otherwise. And no, three games doesn't prove otherwise.
But I think that idea is silly, because Vogel has shown he'll go with who is playing best. Although I don't know that he'll take out Roy again. (Even though, IMO, he made the right call statistically.) PG and Roy are the only guarantees. (Although Hill better be there if we need a basket..)
edit: Easier might also mean "health" wise. I'm not sure if it's the same for Danny's injury. But I've seen some players who come back from knee injuries where they need to start, because letting the knee sit after warming it up, stiffens the knee.