Clearly you lack knowledge about the game of basketball since your posts lack any kind of depth.
Now clean your glasses and realize that Hibbert is a liability to this team.
As for the OT--no. Roy's offense has been brutal this year, but defensively he is the anchor for this team. You know, the best defensive team in the NBA? Roy is a huge part of this team's success. I have zero desire to trade him, struggling or not.
^ its "you guy's were English majors"
I also wish people'd put some context to "max contract." His "max contract" isn't the same as Joe Johnson, or Amare Stoudemire, or Deron Williams, or Elton Brand. I'd easily take Roy over all those players, and his contract's smaller.
I wish we could sub Roy out after every defensive stop. LOL!! He has been great on the defensive end but it almost seems every time he throws up a shot on the offensive end it's a wasted possession. Some of the shots he throws up have no chance of going in. He is what he is I guess. I don't ever see him being an offensive juggernaut. Good thing a big part of this team's identity is defense.
Roy's been disappointing this season. Defensive anchor or not, he's hardly a scoring threat in the paint with his combination of 41% shooting & 2 TO's for his low usage rate. He's also not the rebounder he should be and we all know it.
Some guy here posted that big guys get paid. True. How many of these big guys have a long term deal AND shoot 41% from the field? I guess 0. I even doubt the lowest FG% guy on that list (whoever that is) shoots below 46%.
A defensive anchor that shoots 40% from the field shouldn't be the highest paid player on your team. His contract is pretty much the reason we're going to have to dump Granger, West, Hill or George at some point.
Anyway, I am against trading him for now because he has a pathetic bang for buck value which means we're gonna get crap for him. I'd rather play him and hope that at some point (hopefully next year) he'll have some fluke shooting streak that will boost his trade value and then we could get some serious offers.
Question though, who do you expect to get for him?
Just because Hibbert makes Bargnani look like a tough mother****er and Valanciunas like the ROY doesn't mean he can't be a positive on the floor. He is +6 btw
That's just how our defense works and bigs who move well and shoot very well are allowed to take a lot of midrange jumpers.
Paul George "steals" a lot of his rebounds, but that shouldn't matter as long it's a Pacer. Pacers are a very good rebounding team in most games.
Yeah, his offense is awful, but we have to assume that a hardworking man like Roy should be able to find his offense back from last year.
That's said, I would love to have a center like Valanciunas on the Pacers.
Love the rim protection & passing! Pretty much can't stand everything else.
I could care less about him being a part of the offense. But, I would like double - digit boards average and the ability to consistently finish offensive board put backs at the rim. His contract & top paid billing on our team would be much more palatable if he accomplish those things.
As it stands, can't imagine he's even being shopped. Whether or not I'd be disappointed if he were moved would totally depend on what we got in return.
Surely you can't be serious
I'm glad someone else agrees with me. I was probably the only one saying not to re sign him.
He had an awfully nice hook-pass to West for a lay in. But generally, yes, his offense has been putrid.
But his defense remains very, very good. He's a very serious obstacle for guys trying to get to the rim and he makes our perimeter defense better too by allowing guys to press. He's good enough defensively to start on this team, even if his offense is bad.
But pull the crystal ball out. I believe Roy Hibbert will resolve his mental issues and you will find him kicking some *** in the future. You've already seen his roller coaster act and you know it's mental even though it appears physical. Just hang on. I've seen people struggle like this and they ultimately come out of it stronger than the rest of us.
This thread P!SSES ME OFF!!! ...
I personally think a moderator needs to delete this crap ... embarassing for me as a PD member to think that Big Roy could happen to open up PD in his browser and the first thing he sees is an "official trade roy hibbert thread"...
Your thoughtlessness disgust me ..
He may be the worst offensive player int he league. I get that but also remember because of him you hold your opponents to a FG% less than what he is currently shooting.
He is the reason we are 3rd in the east.
Lets also look at this logically. If he is making 41 baskets out of 100 that means in 10 games he would make one more basket a game to get to 50% if he shot 10 shots a game. So you want to trade a former allstar and one of the best defensive players, shot blockers, and offensive rebounders in the league over 2PPG. Our average win margin is quite high and while I want roy to shoot 50% as much as everyone it is hardly worth saying trade him.
We will instantly turn into Dallas......
Now this does not mean the Pacers would not be willing to listen to a trade for Roy. But it does mean the Pacers don't have to trade Roy unless they can trade him for a clearly better player. That is true of pretty much every player on the team. Pacers are willing to trade him [or anyone else] for LeBron James or Kevin Durant. So they are willing to trade. But absent a trade that is lopsided in the Pacers favor, there is no financial need to trade Roy until next year's trading deadline.
It's not because he's going to get it, or he's equivalent to PG/David West. That's just completely nonsensical and not even giving effort to thought. The reason he won't get traded is his value is at its lowest in years. You don't sell this low on a player until his personality becomes a problem.
Since he's not going anywhere, they need to tell him when he's not 100% wide open (which he never is), either dunk or pass the damn ball until he learns another move. No more hook shots. They destroy the offense.
Pretty good official trade thread. Noticed there was not a trade for an actual player mentioned? A young Wilt, Shaq, Kareem? I'll bet we could trade him to the 76ers for Bynum right now. By this time next year Ian could be our starting Center, maybe not. Just who would you trade Roy for?
you're not really going to get somebody better than him in a trade. he's one of the most well rounded big men in the league, although not elite at anything (except for shot blocking maybe). his lack of athleticism really limits him on both ends though
edit: one of the more underrated things about hibbert is his durability. how many games has he missed due to injury?
they said the Hawks are willing to trade Josh Smith for a young Center......im just saying
i dont think this thread is about Hibbert being a scrub, its just the expectations for him were so high, and with him being the top paid pacer right now, you would think u would get more out of him than this
Even in Roy's case I don't think expecting improvement on both ends of the court after signing a max deal is unreasonable. We are often told how hard he works in the off season- so what did he work on the last offseason?
His development curve seemed to suggest 14 ppg and 9 rpg not 10 and 8 with 41% shooting by a 7'2 center. As such after watching him sign a big contract and regress its very understandable Pacer fans are unhappy with Roy.
I rather doubt there would be a long line of teams forming to take on Roy's contract based on this season. As such we will have to hope he starts living up to it.