If they measured hockey assists, things would look different. However, everyone judges based on the assists number, and on a team like Indiana we just aren't racking a bunch of those up. First, we run a lot of clear outs for West and PG. Second, the offense is built around making the extra pass, so Hill initiates the offense, but typically won't get an assist.
I would argue that Hill HAS delivered. He's playing with a 5 that can't shoot, a 3 that takes awful jumpers, and a 2 that is still growing/much better in transition. Things have gotten better nearly every game, this team has outplayed San Antonio and LA in 7 of the last 8 quarters. There has been clear improvement of late, lets see if/when the improvement stops. The Pacers are trending upwards, and I believe Hill is a key reason for it.
I got to watch Ian a lot in Dallas and he looks like the same guy to me, yes he was good in pre-season but it was pre-season....Quote:
and again, it is early in the season, we don't even have a consistent rotation, as far as Mahinmi he is actually playing a lot worst than he has before in his career, Blocks are up a lot, but he is shooting less than 40% when in the past he has always been above 55%. The justification you gave was just wrong, sorry.
It's way too early to be able to tell about our current guys, but I bet Roy ends up overpaid, and maybe Green. I personally don't mind the Mahinmi and Hill deals, thought they could've been a yr shorter.
I follow what you're saying though. I dislike Walsh tbh, and I hope we either allow Pritchard to call more shots, or bring Bird back before we allow Walsh to make more FO mistakes.
It's impossible to know how often Walsh overpays, for a number of reasons. The biggest is because we're not privvy to information on the players that Walsh had a shot a signing, but then turned down because he thought they were asking too much.
Am I saying he does it often? No. I'm simply saying we don't know, so trying to make conclusions from half of the situation is pretty hard to do.
I don't remember, how many years was the midseason offer for? And was it a $7.5M average on an increasing contract that would have perhaps been $9M+ in the last year? The difference between $7M and $8M might have been the requirement to keep it a flat contract, making it much more tradeable down the road than one that increased to above that number.
It was 6mil a year but we don't know the salary increase.
Stock up: Pacers PG George Hill is helping his value. He turned down a $6 million-per-year extension before the season and now might get more this summer as a restricted free agent. The Spurs and Tim Duncan, especially, want him to return to San Antonio, but San Antonio might not be able to afford him. New York Daily News
Blatche needed to get out of Washington... PERIOD! The culture there was detrimental to him. I've wanted Blatche, since he was a RFA. Unfortunately, the Pacers still had David Harrison, so there was no reason to get Blatche. We all know how that turned out! Some cities/teams aren't good for players. Good example was Portland for Z-Bo. You could make a case for Tinsley and Indy/Pacers as well. I wince everytime I see the Tinjury ast # in the daily box scores.
I've heard all the stories about Blatche same as I heard all the stories about Z-Bo. Different teams can change a player. Not to mention Blatche is on a ONE YEAR contract like Augustin. I'll bet the ole family farm that Blatche produces more on his one year contract than Augustin does. Any takers? I thought not!
Blatche is an ABSOLUTE STEAL at $854,389. He can play both the 4 & 5, and produce. He's not up in age like both JO and Rasheed who are producing on $854,389 contracts. It was an absolute blunder for not picking up Blatche for $854,389. But hey, Walsh traded 2 players to sign Mahinmi to 4 mil a year on a 4 guaranteed year contract. Walsh is paying 79% more for Mahinmi for less production. Someone tell me again why Walsh was re-hired to run the Pacers?
I NEVER said I was interested in Jerry Stackhouse, now did I? I just pointed out he contributed to the Nets bench success last night. I'm surprised any team even picked him up this year. He was a benchsitter and towel waiver last season in Atlanta. Personally, I'd rather have a player like the Nets seldom used Marshon Brooks than Stackhouse anyday everyday.
Not really if you just look at each situation within the proper time frame. When we were negotiating with him during the season it was as a back-up. When we were negotiating with him in the offseason it was as a starter. He had a lot more leverage in the offseason than during the season.
I love the idea that has arisen on PD that Donnie Walsh is the only GM in the history of the NBA who has ever overspent on a player. Just too funny. Let's look at the teams just in our own division who have overspent:
Bulls: Boozer, and now Taj Gibson.
Bucks: How about 5 year/32 million on Drew freaking Gooden in 2010? They decided to take on Beno Udrih's crazy contract too.
Pistons: Charlie Villanueva. Ben Gordon. Enough said.
Cavaliers: Remember when they paid Larry Hughes all the money in the world after they lost out on Michael Redd? Right now though, their contracts are pretty good. Only team in our division that hasn't gone crazy, but that is mostly because of what happened with the decision.
The lesson here? Every team makes bad contracts. Every GM has made a bad deal at some point. MOST GMS in the NBA have a history of overspending. Welcome to the league we live in and have fostered.
Indiana never had the chance to sign George for $7.5M
I'm not sure how that ever got started.
I'm thinking there were other sources, but I'm not going to dig too deep on it. The story being told at the time was that the Pacers wanted him for 6M and he wanted 7.5M per.
I'll take it for now. We need more guys like him badly on our team.
Like I said before, David West and George Hill are the only two players who don't look like they're wetting the bed when the going gets tough. Everyone else looks scared, I feel like its because they come from other successful teams
Yes, Lou had some great games and for all I know he could play great against LA if he was brought back (and mind you, I was not against bringing back Lou, I still love the guy) but there's no way that he would go 7 - 10 from the line. And without that 7 - 10 we're not winning this game. Plain and simple.