Even when these officials are getting calls right, it often takes them an obscene amount of time to figure out what happened and how they are going to say it. This kills the pace of a game that was already long even when it was being called efficiently. This happened last week in the Broncos-Falcons game, happened in our game yesterday, and happened in New England-Baltimore last night. Wasn't Belichick complaining about it? It's probably happened in almost every game, but those are just the ones I can think of that I've seen firsthand.
Not to minimalize what happened to DHB but I was glad to see his thumbs up so I'm guessing it just didn't stick in my head. And to be fair he's not the first player ever even under good circumstances to get hurt badly when he goes over the middle.
I am saying that at some point, maybe next week, a sliding QB is going to get knocked the **** out by a defender on a late hit and then there is going to be a major issue. That is going to be the matchstick that lights the kindling IMO. Because if I was an offensive lineman and I saw my sliding QB getting destroyed the way Luck, RGIII, Matt Ryan, Vick, etc. have been, I would be pissed. The first time a QB doesn't get up from one of those hits, I predict we are going to see an incident.
And that's my point. When regular NFL referees are on the sidelines, there are still constant complaints about the calls or lack of calls and how the influence the outcome of the game. When replacement officials are on the sidelines, there is constant complaints that they don't know the rules and how it influences the game.
At the end of the day, the constant is that people just like to *****.
For the record, I have complained about game-altering officiating, meaning multiple obviously wrong calls based solely on either corruption or incompetence, on precisely two occasions in the past 40 years as a sports fan:
The 1992 Final Four, Duke over Indiana, 81-78, aka "The Ted Valentine game"
The 2012 NFL season (as a whole).
There have been a few other isolated instances of a single awful, unexplained, game-changing bad call (i.e., the LJ 4-point play) that I have railed on, but there are only these two examples I have followed personally of consistent, obvious, and blatantly bad or corrupt officiating.
I'm not a boxing fan or the list would no doubt be longer, but that's my two item list in its entirety.
Did we really need to get a 1992 final four reference in here....I need to go wash out my eyes with salt water now.
I would agree with you Slick, though I may add the 4 point play to your list.
It was a Hiroshima of a call, though.
No one is perfect. Even the best make mistakes. Peyton Manning and Tom Brady have each thrown plenty of interceptions over the course of their long careers, but that doesn't change the fact that they have been superior talents to virtually everyone else that played in their era. That's the same case with the regular officials. Sure they would screw up, but in no way were they as incompetent as these replacement officials. Just like Peyton throwing a pick doesn't mean that he's all of the sudden Rex Grossman.
The NFL is the most superior brand of football in the entire world. The regular officials had spent years reffing and watching this game. There is no way that some guys who reffed in a bunch of joke leagues could come in and ref as well as the guys who had been doing this for years. They are completely incompetent compared to the real refs.
The call on Hasselback during the INT return was awful. Giving Ben a TD was a play that couldn't be overturned (no matter what the onfield call would have been) but at least a technical procedure change came from that and the NFL now how permanent cameras along the same plane as the goal line. You can't tell if a player broke the plane of the endzone from a camera stationed near midfield. The geometry just doesn't work. The replay was inconclusively useless. The holding penatly was one of the worst replays of Madden's career, as you can see the RT - who the penalty was called upon - spinning Clark Hagans around while Madden circled the LT and said, "there's no hold here". Duh. But that doesn't make the call on the field wrong.
You knew I was going to do it. Didn't want to disappoint.
How many times have regular referees, to your recollection, marked off a 15 yard penalty with a 27 yard walk-off on a game-winning drive? (Tennessee game yesterday).
These types of things are far far beyond the realm of unfortunately timed bad judgement calls.
If this continues, the season as a whole deserves an asterisk, as a season that was not fairly decided on the field of play.
That's my point. Some mistakes should be expected, because it comes with the territory. When mistakes do happen, they are overblown and talked about indepth to the point that it becomes the belief that these problems wouldn't be around with regular officials. These types of criticisms happen with regular officials, so it merely is a part of the game. These complaints aren't any new complaints. They happen with replacement officials and they happen with regular officials.
When these mistakes do happen, the officials should get a little bit of slack instead of a noose.
Why should those games not get asterisks? We're trying to pick and choose which mistakes are okay and which mistakes are unfair, instead of just labeling them both mistakes and moving forward.
The Steelers-Seahawks Super Bowl, to this unbiased viewer who was pulling for the underdog Seahawks, consisted of a whole assortment of close calls that seemingly all favored the Steelers and made you think "Gee, I want to see that replay"
Then each and every time I would see the replay and I would think "I guess they got it right, or... wow, you know, I can't really tell"
In the end I thought the Steelers were extremely fortunate, not to benefit from obviously bad officiating, but from having so many calls in their favor that could have gone the other way, since the video evidence would not have supported an overturn in either direction (if it were in fact reviewable).
Just my 2 cents.
I asked Jay's_Wife@Section222 last night, after watching the Steelers-Raiders then Ravens-Patriots if the league might toss out the records with these replacement refs and let everyone start over 0-0?
Of course they won't, they used replacement players during that season back in the '80's to determine who made the playoffs.
But this season has absolutely no feel to it right now, in part because of the officiating.
SF getting their butts whipped by Minnesota while Detroit struggles with Tennessee? I know "any given Sunday" but there's just a bunch of weird stuff going on this season, including a lot of teams already battling the injury bug. Ben gets a low hit - below his knee that goes uncalled and then there was the huge full-speed collision in the endzone that was uncalled. They're bad for everybody, no one team can really claim to be the victim, but they're just plain bad.
Maybe the Ravens could claim to be victims, over weeks #2 and #3, but then the last two minutes of last night's push-off errrrr... I mean game... happened. So I think it balanced out.
Should a flag have been thrown? Probably. But it was also a football play with unfortunate consequences. Not sure the officiating "caused" that injury. You had three guys going full speed to a pass that was a little bit off its intended target. As Fouts said, "That's a risk we all signed up for."