As if this couldn't get anymore embarassing.
As if this couldn't get anymore embarassing.
Probably not the followup to Indy that the series was hoping for on ABC.
BTW... in case anyone missed it... because ABC sure did... Rahal DID get refired and restarted the race. Not sure what they fixed or how long it took them, but he was out there.
Not sure what the big deal over the tire change and restart was. I could understand someone trying to game the system a little and change compounds, but when you get called out on it I'm not sure why anyone would be pizzed. Whatever tire you were on when the red flag fell you have to restart on the same compound.... makes sense to me. The red flag shouldn't allow someone to gain an advantage. ...Although I guess they could argue it's now a 15 lap sprint instead of 45 laps so they should be able to setup for a 15 lap sprint.
Looks like Honda has things sorted out....
As if we needed more proof that either Milwaukee or Texas should follow Indy....
That was just bad. I can't believe that could happen to a place that should be kept at IRL standards. Shades of Martinsville in Nascar
Well, the owners don't want the aero kits for 2013 and they are not happy that the Dallara is costing them 600,000.00 instead of the under 400,000.00 they were told. Of course that does beg the question- if the car makers were told the cars could cost 600,000.00 would other companies have been interested in competing? ...And as sole supplier of the cars and all their parts with no outside sources allowed for parts and pieces, where is the incentive for Dallara to moderate prices?
Somebody needs to figure out at what point the competition to be fastest/better also has the factor of competition to want to sell and be the better bargain/bang for buck.
I ****ing told you this would happen with those *******s. You watch. The price war begins. The only way to stop it is competition, but it has to be REAL competition.
I think it would've helped if the series had a standing rule in place that required at least 1 generation of cars to be grandfathered in (at least with updates and safety requirements) as each successive new car rules are established. Of course you'd need this rule in place as a standing rule (and not a makeshift 'add it later rule') so that new car rules would be written with full knowledge the older car would still be legal and be designed accordingly.
Too late. That horse is gone. If they haven't pissed everybody of by getting back in bed with Dallara (after getting *** ****ed for the last umpteen years) they REALLY need to sit down with Lola and Swift and whomever else will come to the table and say alright boys we ****ed up but were going to get it right, here's the bottom line price, not one ****ing dime over, build it. I don't give a **** where you build it (see how well the tax incentives worked out). Let all those little shops over in Gasoline Alley get busy making spare parts. Let the marketplace determines who survives and who doesn't. If they build **** spares, they won't last long.
"I'm not talking to Foyt, he's mad at me. Hell, Most of the owners are mad at me."
I love the Robin Miller Grid Run.
I expect Dario to crash out tonight and then whine and blame some other driver for it.
Justin Wilson! Nice surprise!!! Unfortunately, didn't get to see the race.
Very cool race. No pack racing. Lifting on a 1.5mi cookie cutter. Whoda thunk it?
It's a great package, I just wish it came in more flavors.
And racing like last night would be what we'd get with different flavors, except more long term sustainablility, because different flavors means eventually the whole paddock won't lock in on the same basic setup for the same basic cars.
One thing I wonder about is if Firestone had tires developed to go off when they did or if that was all a function of the cars lacking downforce and wearing tires quicker. Which obviously is wearing tires quicker, I guess my question or point is wondering if Firestone and the league got what they wanted out of the tires or whether Firestone will use the data to change tire compounds for longer runs in the future....
Not sure about that. I'm suspecting that the series got pretty much what they wanted so they will encourage Firestone to stand pat. The drivers will ***** but I think the series wins this one.
Ah crap, now it comes out that Wilson and Carpenter both failed post race inspection:
Sandman beat me to it:
INDYCAR announced penalties stemming from post-race technical inspection of the June 9 Firestone 550 at Texas Motor Speedway.
The No. 18 car Dale Coyne Racing car driven by Justin Wilson was fined $7,500 and docked five entrant points for not complying with the sidepod top deck aerodynamic element of Rule 18.104.22.168.
22.214.171.124 Texas Aero Summary (updated June 3, 2012 via bulletin)
The following parts may not be used at Texas Motor Speedway: Sidepod Top Deck (part number IR1225195RH/LH - IR1202A031/32)
The No. 20 Ed Carpenter Racing car driven by Ed Carpenter was fined $5,000 and penalized one entrant point for not complying with Rule 126.96.36.199.
188.8.131.52. Texas Race Event (updated June 8, 2012 via bulletin)
A rear wing wicker up to a maximum of 1/8-inch height and full span may be used.
The members may contest the imposition of the penalties pursuant to the procedures and timelines detailed in the protest and appeal procedures of the IZOD IndyCar Series rulebook.
While I'm sure certain things could be done that would take a post race inspection to catch, weren't these issues that a prerace inspection would catch? Of course you'd still need the post race inspection to make sure nobody tried to sneak one past race officials after being checked. But the point being, do a pre-race inspection and you catch something pre-race it might save from any negative publicity of a tainted win. Hahahaha... I'm assuming Indycar will get ANY casual fan type publicity 2 days following a race... what am I thinking???
It does taint the win somewhat... although the 7500.00 doesn't seem to imply it does. Or doesn't seem to want to imply that.
Then again... you'd ASSUME if someone was going to cheat they'd find a way to do it less obviously....
Makes you wonder if the paddock isn't used to a different sheriff and different way of doing things....
"It's not cheating if you don't get caught... or get to keep the trophy" ;)
Generally, tech inspection is conducted prior to practice and qualifying. Post qualifying I'm not sure that Indycar conducts a further check, but Indy Lights does. I suspect it is the same process. Then, post race an inspection is conducted on a set number of cars and a random or two. They must have felt the infractions were minor or they would have dropped the hammer. The previous sheriff in town never publicized an infraction that I am aware of. As a rule, most of your "rampant" cheating is conducted on the speedways.