Back in 1999, the Saints traded their ENTIRE draft of picks PLUS a 1st and 3rd round pick the following season for Ricky Williams. And that's on top of the fact that Williams was a RB, not a QB. The Redskins got Lavar Arrington with the following year's 1st rounder.
I mean, that was a total fleecing by the Skins', but other than Arrington (whose career was cut short by injuries), can you recall the name of a single player the Redskins got from that trade? In theory, the Redskins should have been able to build a dynasty off that haul, but they built nothing, mainly because they were never able to find even a decent QB.
This is obviously the correct move by the Rams. It's very good compensation for simply trading down 4 spots. It's a no brainer trade on their part right now, but I doubt anyone is projecting that team to be a dynasty 3 years from now because of it.
For the Redskins, this is a steep price to pay but if RGIII pans out the way they hope, it's easily worth it. It's hard to find a franchise QB, and the Redskins of the past 20+ years are proof of that.
The reason RG3 gets compared to Vick is the athleticism. But he is far more like Vick in Philly than Vick in Atlanta. Vick in Philly is a damn good qb. He has become extremely accurate, don't let the completion % from this season fool you.
RG3 is somewhere in between Vick and Rodgers, as Vick when he entered the league, RG3 doesn't have that type of athleticism, Vick was clocked at a 4.25 40 time. But he is more athletic than Rodgers. RG3 is a better passer than Vick, but not quite as good as Rodgers.
Wait, you mean the Redskins have drafted QB's in the past who did not work out. and now they are taking a risk hoping to be able to shore up only the most important position in modern NFL.
PS. Other franchises have gone crazy as of late. Philly and Dallas most recently, though Snyder gets all the bad pub for his stupid moves (rightfully so)
Better then signing a old, big name QB is free agency for big money....
I think it is funny a lot of news I am hearing is the Colts owner wants luck, but a lot of the front office staff want RG3. Will be interesting to see how this all plays out.
The redskins will lose 18 million dollars of this years cap space, fines by the NFL for over front loading the contracts...
The adjustment is 36 million, while Dallas will be adjusted 10 million.
It is not a adjustment for this year.
The teams receiving money can also choose to split it over the 2012 and '13 seasons however they see fit, sources said.
Also note it is not a fine.
According to the sources, the deductions are not termed as violations, but are part of a recent agreement the NFL and the players' association made to raise the salary cap number while preserving benefit increases and the performance pool.
Lastly, the Redskins are conisdering sueing the NFL, as are the Cowboys. The teams broke no "rules", but instead did not go along with the other teams who had a "back room agreement" not to frontload contract to save money. Other teams complained 2 years later (after the NFL approved the contracts) so good luck to the NFL in court. The NFL has a worse record in court then the Skins have had on the field lately.
“The Washington Redskins have received no written documentation from the NFL concerning adjustments to the team salary cap in 2012 as reported in various media outlets. Every contract entered into by the club during the applicable periods complied with the 2010 and 2011 collective bargaining agreements and, in fact, were approved by the NFL commissioner’s office. We look forward to free agency, the draft and the coming football season.” - Redskins statement from EVP/GM Bruce Allen
"The Dallas Cowboys were in compliance with all league salary cap rules during the uncapped year," the team said in a statement Monday night. "We look forward to the start of the free agency period where our commitment to improving our team remains unchanged." - Dallas Cowboys
My bad, I forgot you were Bruce Allen.
Last I checked, the team has not said anything about how they would take the hit. The rumor is they are going to fight this, and defer the payments until next year if the punishments are upheld.
So 36 - 36 = WHAT?!?!?!
Once again, the Redskins have not been notified of this, so they are NOT taking any hit this year.....
That said, I have heard rumors this morning that the NFL already took the Redskins 18M off the books. Keep in mind the article I posted earlier is from ESPN (the worldwide leader in sports as you called it) that says the team has the choice.
I have also heard that the Redskins legal staff never left Redskins park last night.....so even if the NFL took 18M it doesnt matter if we see Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder vs NFL.
One thing to keep in mind. Nothing is official. I have it on good word that Bruce Allen only found out about this AFTER Adam S. called to ask for comment. The NFL has made no comment, and only said what they did yesterday after the media broke the story.
Still waiting for an explination from the NFL, and the Giants owner as he is the head of the competetion committee
Why, because the lost the ability to aquire 2-3 free agents.
Damn, the team will have to draft smart and sign cheap talent and not go after big name players!
Would be funny as hell to see Mora and Goodell pull this crap and then have the team still make the playoffs.
I dont like this ruling and I am happy that the Skins and Cowboys will not be able to go after as many free agents and the Bears get more cap room. Especially the Skins they were the main contender with us for V-Jax. I would think the players union will have something to say about the ruling.
The NFLPA was strongarmed into agreeing this to make sure the salary cap was adjusted, plus other teams get money.
Reports out of Redskins park is they are looking at Peppers contract (as well as every other teams contract from that season). The Bears took a $34 million hit doing the same thing Dallas and Washington did. Not to mention the teams that came in under the ceiling who are not being punished at all (I have heard Jacksonville among others, but finding a reliable source on these stories is hard to find)
Also, Adam S. is reporting the NFL took 18M off the books on the official NFL web-site.
So little news.....
Never thought I would say this, but from Cowboys Zone:
10 others teams were guilty of this as well.
Despite Monday's cap hit from the league office, ESPN's John Clayton expects the Redskins to remain in aggressive in pursuit of free agents Cortland Finnegan, Vincent Jackson and Eddie Royal.
Dozens of reports have linked Jackson to the Redskins, but Finnegan is flying under the radar as a target for GM Bruce Allen and deep-pocketed owner Daniel Snyder. The Redskins and Cowboys can split their cap hits between 2012 and 2013. Profootballtalk's Mike Florio astutely points out the two teams will likely "spend now and fight later."
Funny going back and reading this thread.
Is Bulletproof still around? I remember he was quite active, then it seems like he just fell off the face of the earth
I wasn't on the board when this thread was first around but it is funny reading back through this. As a Rams fan, I originally thought it was a flat out win for my team when this trade was made. But obviously, watching RGIII last year was quite a treat. I think that ultimately, this trade will go down as one that helps each team equally.
The Skins were closer to relevance and RGIII helped put them over the top (with an assist from Alfred Morris). The Rams had so many holes to fill that drafting RGIII wouldn't have helped on his own. Getting all those extra draft picks and trading down to acquire more (then using some of those to trade up for Tavon Austin) is speeding up the rebuild job. The sports media always like to debate who won/lost, but I think this is one that filled each team's needs perfectly.