Yet if he takes them to the playoffs....or wins a few playoff games, or lord forbid a miracle happens and the win a SB.....remember this thread in 5 years. Worth. EVERY. pick.
Its called a gamble for a reason. But they needed to take one. They did.
I don't think RGIII is a franchise QB personally, but if the Redskins think he is then this is a good deal from their side and one you should probably make. A franchise QB is just that important to long term success in the NFL.
That's the same reason the Colts keep Luck and run away giggling.
The Redskins organization has been so bad for so long, I scoff at everything they do. When they picked up McNabb I told everyone he would fail and was castigated for it. We all know how that turned out.
I am sort of a casual Redskins fan now that I have lived here for so long, the city is much more fun when they are good. They essentially gave up three picks as they are basically just swapping first round picks this year to get RGIII. I don't know enough about the guy to know if he's any good. But the Redskins trading away picks has done nothing but backfire for them in the past really. I don't really know what to think.
RGIII is going to be nice good deal for them.
That was also a risk...and one that failed miserably
The Redskins made HORRIBLE moves under Vinny Cerrato, but the draft hsa actually been pretty good to them, even with that idiot in charge (Chris Samuels, Cooley, Sean Taylor, etc). they just loved trading draft picks, and for one they have picks to work a trade that may or may not be worth the risk.
Though I agree, still dont know what to think / feel yet.
Can you tell me the winning numbers for the mega millions tonight as well?
PS. Its two first rounders. They swapped firsts for this year. Then firsts from 2013 and 2014. You can call it what you want now, but just like the people who said the Giants overpaid for Eli are mighty quiet now, I am sure no one will say a word in RG3 has half the career Eli has had so far. And if he wins a SB, it will go down as one of the GREATEST trades in Redskins history.
PPS. The Redskins have SUCKED for the past 15 - 20 years. SUCKED. They had the SIXTH worst record in the NFL this past season. SUCKED. with ALL of those FIRST round picks that you claim to be gold, they have yet to find a franchise QB.
Crazy is calling any player a bust before he even leaves college.
PPPS. I doubt it will go down as the worst trade in NFL history. Pretty sure Elway for Mark Hermann was worse....
Do you realize how bad Baylor was before RG3? They were always at the bottom of the Big 12 and were pretty much a joke of a team. When RG3 got hurt in 2009, Baylor won 1 game without him. The next season they win 7. And this year he lead them to 10 wins. That is unheard of for Baylor. And its all because of RG3.
When I look at RGIII, I don't think of Cutler or Rodgers, I think of Vick or Moon. You not only have to cover the receivers and get to the QB, you have to also can't over run the QB, or he'll break loose for a quick 20 yards.
Great move for the Rams for sure. Move from 2nd to 6th an still get one of the players they wanted to take the whole time, while adding the 39th pick this year in a deep draft on top of two more 1st.
I have seen lot of tape on RGIII also, and his only thing is not just being able to throw a good long ball, he makes tons of plays and is very accurate passing the ball, one thing that was consistent with him is that even though they did not always convert on 3rd down he was able to put together a lot of drives to help his team score throughout the game.
He never quit on any games that I saw even when his team was getting blown out and that is a wonderful thing because that is a possibility no matter if he went to the Colts or the Redskins.
Whomever said it's only two firsts...redskins are sending three first rounders and a second for one first round pick...considering all of the needs The skins have, I feel like they are going to be pretty bad for another few years so thank you for those top ten picks!
also the Skins have 40m in cap room when a lot of teams have to cut great players they can fill out their needs pretty well in the draft and free agency. The Skins have more picks this year than they have had in years.
As for the top picks, the draft is a gamble for a reason. Some of the people Washington has drafted in the first round in the last ten years that didn't work out: LaRon Landry, who likely won't be back in a Redskin uniform. Carlos Rogers, Jason Campbell, Patrick Ramsey, Rod Gardner.
We will see how bad they are. If they even go .500 this first year, make the playoffs in the next 3-5 years, or win the SB, it will be well worth it. Thanks for RG3 and you can have our number 20-32 picks - Redskins management
The Redskins for many many years have kind of been like the JOB Pacers: bad enough to be laughed at by most of the league and never make the playoffs but not bad enough to get the 1st or 2nd pick of the draft and snag elite, game-changing talent. If the Pacers had traded away a couple of future firsts for the rights to Durant the year he came out, people probably would have been excited and happy about it for the most part on the Pacers board. The Redskins need (a shot) at electrifying talent. We'll see how this gamble goes.
I agree. But if RG3 lives up to the hype (and he has to start on day 1, has to) then yes, I think they could easily make the playoffs. They had Rex freaking Grossman running the show last year and they started off as a .500 team. They started a rebuild last year (minus the stupid McNabb trade :mad: ) and they damn near shocked themselves with how good they started off. Granted, they had a backup QB expected to run the show, and Rexy is just not a start QB, and I like the guy, but he is not.
Also, we still have the bulk of our drafts after the 3 high picks are gone and we have a great opportunity to meet several key needs in FA this year. It is an unusual year for having a lot of cap space and a huge and talented FA class. The FO had all this much in mind when giving what they gave.
For what the targeted player is intended to be, and rigthfully projected to be (never a sure thing but c'mon), it was a great deal for the Rams and a valid (I say very smart) move for us, and necessary to beat out stiff competition.
Two SB coaches wanted this guy very badly.
Lastly, the Redskins had a really good off season last year. They have real pros running things now, not Snyder holding his XBOX controller playing Madden and ESPN Fantasty football
I agree, and a great analogy. They have sucked for year, but keep winning the meaningless games. The number 6 pick is fine and all, but we weren't going to find a franchise QB.
As you say, its a gamble. But its one that is long overdue. Who was the last franchise QB is done? Sammy Baugh? Sonny? I mean technically Theisman is probably the closets, but his injury cut his career short...
My only concern is that RG3 is going to be injury prone like Vick and laterally he isn't that good of making people miss.
I do worry why people constantly compare rg3 to Vick....they arent comparable...rg3 a few weeks into the season had more touchdowns than incompletions...
2009 Josh Freeman.
2005 Aaron Rodgers.
2004 Ben Roethlisberger
2001 Drew Brees
See a trend here? There are gold if you use them right or know what your doing and there management has made a joke of their own team for years.
If we would have switched from Painter to Dan O. earlier then that could be us swindling Washington. We would have likely kept Peyton had that been the scenario and we would some of those picks to stockpile some young talent around him, as well as probably draft a QB who would have set behind him for a few years.