Ok Mal. Thanks for the clarification.
The purpose of this thread was to take a step back and look at this subject. Sometimes when you are close to something and react to it you lose perspective of the big picture.
What makes a better forum- highly controlled or a little looser. I don't don't think you can control what people have to say. You can have rules no question. In Smash's case I have no idea what went on. Maybe he was warned 50 times. I don't know. I used him as example because I know he could be rough but yet was a hard core fan that seemingly would fit right in on this board.
I just think it's an interesting topic and I was anxious to hear more about how people feel.
What I like is pure honest exchange. It relates to Pacer talk or society as a whole. I'm seeing some trends toward censorship in society that are a little disturbing to me.
DaSmash is simply too busy to post here now, besides, we're not worthy.
It's a sad time in PacersDigest that we can't get the inside word of DaSmash, who was always privy to the goings on of the offices in the Fieldhouse. :rolleyes:
Related question: Is there any list on this board of banned members?
I don't really miss DaSmash. He didn't add to my reading pleasure.
On to the broader question. Either you choose to go by the rules here or you don't. You don't go to Canada and complain about the snow, go to Indiana and complain about blue laws, go to California and complain about sunshine...you know what you are getting into.
Personally, I have never managed not to get my post deleted, censured or warned so I feel able to fully express myself here. I think the mods do a great job, try to hear what people thing and earn every penny they get.
I believe if you're a Canadian and you love your country and you feel it's on the wrong path it's healthy to say so.
And in a democracy you communicate disagreements when you have them. We are in a democracy aren't we? :)
I've been posting on this board or it's linear predecessors for a long long time... meaning I've got connections on here with people that mean something to me. This place means something to me.
But when I have something to say I say it.
I know. I was just expressing how I felt. Just as you are doing.
Mods are doing a great job. I feel no restrictions to say what I want. No complaints from me.
He literally DARED us to ban him on several occasions. He finally went too far and we had had enough. If anything, he was given more leeway than most. Funny thing, actually. The people who get the most chances often turn out to be the nastiest ones on their way out the door (DaSmash, Jermaniac, Sassan, etc.).
What are you gonna do about it? BAN me?!? GO AHEAD, IDIOT!!! SEE IF I CARE!!!
On the face of it the guy sounds like a prick. But believe it or not I can actually "imagine" a set of circumstances - in response to private message threats that this makes more sense.
Of course you'd never know that.
The word on the street would be that he must have wanted to be banned. He had every chance. He just didn't follow the rules.
Twes, I have always had respect for your opinions, and your posting style. Part of that has to do with what I am going to now say.
The difference between someone such as yourself and Smash is in the way you choose to express your disagreement with others.
On one hand, you have always managed to show respect and restraint when you have entered into a....let's say intense....debate with another poster. You have shown class and thoughtfulness on any occasion that I can recall. Oh, you might throw a barb someones way once in a while, but generally in a way to introduce humor into an otherwise non-humorous situation.
On the other hand, Smash, when finding himself in the same situation, was much more likely to be condescending to the opinions of those he did not agree with. All the way to the point of name calling and generally insulting others.
I've been the recipient of some of those insults, both here, and in the old days at Indystar.
In total fairness, let me say that I have also stepped out of line before, and Mal let me know about it. I got the forum version of a warning ticket for that little episode.
I may not have agreed with my "warning ticket", but I understood his point of view, and appreciated the private way it was handled.
I have to think that Smash was given the same treatment as I was, and given ample opportunity to think about his words. My guess is his reaction to his "warning tickets" was different than mine, and that eventually got him banned.
We've also got to remember why this board was started. It was the utter lack of control exibited by the Indystar moderators that gave birth to Pacers Digest.
Anyway, I just wanted express my opinion in a more than a "first word that comes to my mind" format.
One thing I always liked about the board was when you posted a thread you'd hear from everybody. That's part of the reason I was disappointed it got moved to the back porch here.
Has Dancing Harry ever registered here?
I think I saw that he posted something on Star News recently. I hadn't seen that name for awhile.
I've always considered that the #1 rule of boards like this should be --
Disagree without being disagreeable.
There are people who cannot or will not do that. There are also people who refuse to post because of it and others who just go silently away, never to return. Those people have weighed the benefit of somebody who COULD carry on a decent reasonable discussion with having to put up with that person's inhumanity to others and decide to go elsewhere.
Others have monstrously large Ignore lists.
The internet in many cases has evolved into a place to make a fist without the fear of being punched back.
I'm sure it's them. All 47 of them.
Da Smash must be one of the guys I decided to just not read anymore becouse his name brings back nothing. I didn't put him on ignore, I just ignored him.