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  • Artest's agent:deal is expected "sometime at the end of this week

    KG and Artest together. Oh my


    http://www.twincities.com/mld/pionee...printstory.jsp


    Posted on Wed, Dec. 28, 2005



    Artest piques Wolves' interest
    Pacers eager to unload malcontent
    BY RICK ALONZO
    Pioneer Press

    The Timberwolves contacted the Indiana Pacers last week and are interested in acquiring all-star Ron Artest, a source said Tuesday.

    The discussions have not turned serious, and no formal trade offers have been made, said the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

    Wolves vice president of basketball operations Kevin McHale declined to comment through a spokesman, citing league rules against tampering with players under contract with other teams.

    Artest's agent said his client would be excited to play with Wolves all-star Kevin Garnett.

    "Ron, he loves K.G.," agent Mark Stevens said. "He loves his game. It would be an honor and a privilege to play by his side."

    Donnie Walsh, the Indiana Pacers' CEO and president, said about 10 teams are involved in the Artest discussions.

    It would make sense that the Pacers, considered an Eastern Conference heavyweight, would want to trade Artest to a Western Conference team such as Minnesota. That would mean the Pacers wouldn't have to face Artest and his new team in the Eastern Conference playoffs.

    Walsh said more Western Conference teams are involved in the Artest talks than Eastern Conference teams.

    "For sure I want to get this narrowed down by the end of the week to see what's real and not real," Walsh said. "You really don't have a deal until you do it. As of right now, there's a lot of interest. There's no deal close."

    Walsh said he could be interested in taking a player whose contract is expiring in order to possibly gain salary-cap relief next summer.

    Artest makes $6.5 million this season. To make a trade work under NBA rules, the salaries of players involved would have to be in the same ballpark. Walsh said he wouldn't be opposed to trading for a player with a salary higher than Artest's.

    There have been reports of Indiana possibly using a three-team trade, but Walsh said he is not interested in a "big package deal" involving three or four Pacers.

    Artest told the Indianapolis Star this month he wanted to be traded and then changed his mind. But the Pacers remain committed to parting with Artest, who has had a history of issues.

    He forever will be linked to perhaps the ugliest moment in NBA history when he charged into the stands and attacked a fan who threw a drink at him at Detroit in November 2004, touching off a brawl involving the Pacers and fans.

    Artest was suspended for the rest of the season — 73 games plus the playoffs — and lost about $5 million in salary, the harshest penalty in league history.

    Artest also is infamous for asking for time off earlier last season in part to promote a rap album.

    In 2003-04, he drew two suspensions from the NBA. In 2002-03, he missed 12 games after being hit with five suspensions by the league and one by the Pacers.

    Artest's talent can't be questioned. He was named NBA defensive player of the year in 2004. This season, he is leading the league in steals with an average of 2.63 a game to go with 19.4 points. He has played in only 16 games.

    Wolves special assistant Fred Hoiberg was Artest's teammate for 2½ seasons before the Chicago Bulls traded Artest to Indiana in February 2002.

    "What I know of him right now, he's one of the best players in the league," Hoiberg said. "Ron, he's going to have issues, I guess, wherever he goes because of what happened with the brawl. What I remember of Ron, he was a great person. He had some days where he fought some demons. But for the most part, I got along with him great and so did our other teammates."

    Hoiberg said Artest was generous with his time off the court, doing charity work with children. But it is Artest's talent that stands out the most.

    "I think we had gone 0-15 on a couple previous road trips," Hoiberg said. "Then one night he shut down Gary Payton in the fourth quarter, and then the next night he shut down Chris Webber in the fourth quarter. We won both games. He's very versatile. He can post you up, shoot the three, play defense. From a playing standpoint, he's as good as there is in our league."

    Rick Alonzo can be reached at ralonzo@pioneerpress.com.

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    Re: Wednesday 12/28, Artest news from around the NBA

    http://www.denverpost.com/portlet/ar...rticle=3349078

    nuggets notes
    Artest doesn't dismiss Denver

    By Marc J. Spears
    Denver Post Staff Writer
    DenverPost.com

    Indiana Pacers forward Ron Artest has accepted he is going to be traded but says he has no preference where. If he ends up being dealt to the Nuggets, he isn't expected to have a problem coming to Colorado.

    A deal for Artest could include as many as four teams, and the Nuggets' injured forward-center Nene is expected to be a part of any Denver deal.

    Artest's agent, Mark Stevens, said a deal is expected "sometime at the end of this week." The Nuggets have acknowledged interest and have been talking regularly to Pacers CEO and president Donnie Walsh.

    "I've been to Denver before. It has nice scenery," Artest said Tuesday. "I really don't have a comment on the rumors. It's not my place. I like Carmelo (Anthony). I'm cool with (Marcus) Camby. I like a lot of their players.

    "As of right now, I'm still a Pacer. I'm always going to have tremendous respect for Donnie."

    Artest was an all-star and the league's defensive player of the year in 2004. The 6-foot-7, 246-pounder was suspended 73 games by the league for his involvement in a fight with fans last season. He is averaging 19.4 points and 4.9 rebounds this season, but he has been suspended indefinitely by the Pacers and hasn't played since Dec. 6 against Dallas.

    Despite his baggage, Artest is considered one of the NBA's top players.

    "I'm not disappointed," Artest said. "Things happen in people's lives.

    "Nothing is perfect. Life is life."

    Artest expressed remorse for past decisions, saying he has made "100 mistakes" and is hoping for a better future. Although Artest has recanted statements that he wants to be traded, the Pacers still plan on moving him.

    While Artest's actions in Detroit received much attention, he's taking a different approach.

    "I'm going to do whatever I have to do," he said, "fight in a positive way. Fight to win."

    Artest seems willing to accept his fate in a trade, wherever it may send him.

    "It's really up to Donnie," Artest said. "I'm a team player. I'll do what's best for the Pacers' organization, whatever Donnie wants to do. I'll always be a part of Donnie Walsh.

    "Sometimes it's best to move on. I love Indiana. But the process is good right now. ... If Donnie sends me to Denver, that's where he sends me."

    Nene isn't giving much weight to the rumors.

    "I'm thinking about my legs," Nene said. "I'm focusing on my legs, body and health. That is what I'm thinking of. Not the rumors, I can't stop that.

    "It doesn't make me nervous. I don't think about it."

    Nene has been out since suffering a torn anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee in the Nuggets' season opener Nov. 1 at San Antonio. He said the swelling is down but he still has pain and it is too early to say if he could return this season.

    The fourth-year Nugget will be a restricted free agent next offseason and hopes to re-sign with Denver.

    "I want to stay here," Nene said. "I've got friends here, fans, the organization. But you know the NBA. It's a business."

    Despite the Artest trade rumors that have also included Denver guard Earl Watson, Nuggets players say it has not affected their team.

    "It's not reality right now," guard Andre Miller said. "It's just a bunch of rumors. ... Normally you'd think we would talk about it. But we haven't been."

    Marc J. Spears can be reached at 303-820-5449 or mspears@denverpost.com.

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      Re: Wednesday 12/28, Artest news from around the NBA

      http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insid...ohn&id=2272094

      If you'd asked the Indiana Pacers in October where they expected to be at this point, "tied with Milwaukee for third place" probably wouldn't have been the answer.

      Yet that's where Indiana finds itself after Tuesday's 99-86 defeat in San Antonio. The Pacers are already a whopping eight games behind their supposed rivals from Detroit.

      The Ron Artest situation obviously has hurt Indiana, but not in the way you might imagine.

      Despite Artest's absence, the Pacers continue to be a ferocious defensive team. In fact, entering Tuesday's play, Indiana ranked first in the NBA in Defensive Efficiency, my measure of points allowed per possession.

      However, losing Artest's guaranteed 20 points a night has taken its toll offensively. Tuesday's contest was the sixth time in their 10 games without Artest that the Pacers failed to net 90 points -- something that happened just three times in the 16 games with Artest playing.

      Fortunately, help appears to be on the way. With the Pacers reportedly close to completing a deal for their disgruntled forward, Indiana soon could have the replacement scoring punch that it so desperately needs to stay in contention in the East.

      -- John Hollinger

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      • #4
        Re: Wednesday 12/28, Artest news from around the NBA

        Originally posted by Unclebuck
        http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insid...ohn&id=2272094

        If you'd asked the Indiana Pacers in October where they expected to be at this point, "tied with Milwaukee for third place" probably wouldn't have been the answer.

        Yet that's where Indiana finds itself after Tuesday's 99-86 defeat in San Antonio. The Pacers are already a whopping eight games behind their supposed rivals from Detroit.

        The Ron Artest situation obviously has hurt Indiana, but not in the way you might imagine.

        Despite Artest's absence, the Pacers continue to be a ferocious defensive team. In fact, entering Tuesday's play, Indiana ranked first in the NBA in Defensive Efficiency, my measure of points allowed per possession.

        However, losing Artest's guaranteed 20 points a night has taken its toll offensively. Tuesday's contest was the sixth time in their 10 games without Artest that the Pacers failed to net 90 points -- something that happened just three times in the 16 games with Artest playing.

        Fortunately, help appears to be on the way. With the Pacers reportedly close to completing a deal for their disgruntled forward, Indiana soon could have the replacement scoring punch that it so desperately needs to stay in contention in the East.

        -- John Hollinger



        Tell the guy to provide a link for this comment!!
        Ever notice how friendly folks are at a shootin' range??.

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        • #5
          Re: Wednesday 12/28, Artest news from around the NBA

          http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailyd...ilydime-051228

          Ohad (Oakland): What's going on with the Warriors? Their defense is just coming up flat, though Mickael Pietrus' absence hurts. Do the Warriors need Ron Artest to get over the top, and will that happen?

          Marc Stein: This is a team that hasn't been mentioned much in regards to Artest, but the Warriors can be a major player if they choose to dive into the mix.

          They have a lot of intriguing young pieces to get the Pacers interested, and you mentioned one of them: Pietrus.

          Indy, though, would ask for Ike Diogu first and Diogu, I'm told, is a virtually untouchable.

          Keep your eye on these guys, though. Mully was a big risk-taker at the deadline in February to bring Baron in, and he has the assets to do it again.

          But, like every GM, he's asking himself if the potential rewards are worth the risk. The fears about Baron were health-related. The problem with Artest is that you go to bed every night not knowing what he's going to say or do the next day.
          "I'll always be a part of Donnie Walsh."
          -Ron Artest, Denver Post, 12.28.05

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          • #6
            Re: Wednesday 12/28, Artest news from around the NBA

            If I were a writer in Denver.. I think I would try and be cute
            and not use
            nuggets notes
            like every other pro team...
            Why not go with Nugget's nuggets......

            i really think I am on to something here...

            Why Not Us ?

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            • #7
              Re: Wednesday 12/28, Artest news from around the NBA

              I like the Hollinger article, although it wasn't overly insightful. We have a good defense, but bringing in a true center and someone who can guard quick guys (Earl Watson) would make it that much better.

              However, right now we most desperately need a 2nd scoring option and rebounding help.
              You, Never? Did the Kenosha Kid?

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              • #8
                Re: Wednesday 12/28, Artest news from around the NBA

                Originally posted by Unclebuck
                http://www.denverpost.com/portlet/ar...rticle=3349078

                nuggets notes
                Artest doesn't dismiss Denver

                By Marc J. Spears
                Denver Post Staff Writer
                DenverPost.com

                Indiana Pacers forward Ron Artest has accepted he is going to be traded but says he has no preference where. If he ends up being dealt to the Nuggets, he isn't expected to have a problem coming to Colorado.

                A deal for Artest could include as many as four teams, and the Nuggets' injured forward-center Nene is expected to be a part of any Denver deal.

                Artest's agent, Mark Stevens, said a deal is expected "sometime at the end of this week." The Nuggets have acknowledged interest and have been talking regularly to Pacers CEO and president Donnie Walsh.

                "I've been to Denver before. It has nice scenery," Artest said Tuesday. "I really don't have a comment on the rumors. It's not my place. I like Carmelo (Anthony). I'm cool with (Marcus) Camby. I like a lot of their players.

                "As of right now, I'm still a Pacer. I'm always going to have tremendous respect for Donnie."

                Artest was an all-star and the league's defensive player of the year in 2004. The 6-foot-7, 246-pounder was suspended 73 games by the league for his involvement in a fight with fans last season. He is averaging 19.4 points and 4.9 rebounds this season, but he has been suspended indefinitely by the Pacers and hasn't played since Dec. 6 against Dallas.

                Despite his baggage, Artest is considered one of the NBA's top players.

                "I'm not disappointed," Artest said. "Things happen in people's lives.

                "Nothing is perfect. Life is life."

                Artest expressed remorse for past decisions, saying he has made "100 mistakes" and is hoping for a better future. Although Artest has recanted statements that he wants to be traded, the Pacers still plan on moving him.

                While Artest's actions in Detroit received much attention, he's taking a different approach.

                "I'm going to do whatever I have to do," he said, "fight in a positive way. Fight to win."

                Artest seems willing to accept his fate in a trade, wherever it may send him.

                "It's really up to Donnie," Artest said. "I'm a team player. I'll do what's best for the Pacers' organization, whatever Donnie wants to do. I'll always be a part of Donnie Walsh.

                "Sometimes it's best to move on. I love Indiana. But the process is good right now. ... If Donnie sends me to Denver, that's where he sends me."

                Nene isn't giving much weight to the rumors.

                "I'm thinking about my legs," Nene said. "I'm focusing on my legs, body and health. That is what I'm thinking of. Not the rumors, I can't stop that.

                "It doesn't make me nervous. I don't think about it."

                Nene has been out since suffering a torn anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee in the Nuggets' season opener Nov. 1 at San Antonio. He said the swelling is down but he still has pain and it is too early to say if he could return this season.

                The fourth-year Nugget will be a restricted free agent next offseason and hopes to re-sign with Denver.

                "I want to stay here," Nene said. "I've got friends here, fans, the organization. But you know the NBA. It's a business."

                Despite the Artest trade rumors that have also included Denver guard Earl Watson, Nuggets players say it has not affected their team.

                "It's not reality right now," guard Andre Miller said. "It's just a bunch of rumors. ... Normally you'd think we would talk about it. But we haven't been."

                Marc J. Spears can be reached at 303-820-5449 or mspears@denverpost.com.



                Basketball isn't played with computers, spreadsheets, and simulations. ChicagoJ 4/21/13

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                • #9
                  Re: Artest's agent:deal is expected "sometime at the end of this week

                  Originally posted by Ron Artest
                  I'll always be a part of Donnie Walsh.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Wednesday 12/28, Artest news from around the NBA

                    Originally posted by SoupIsGood
                    However, right now we most desperately need a 2nd scoring option and rebounding help.
                    I would mostly agree with the 2nd scoring option. I think we have some good rebounding...as long as J.O. plays his natural position of PF (I still haven't given up on Foster) and Danny starts at SF, that's some good rebounding. It seems like an SG would fit real nice with the team...take none of Danny's mins...and I do think that Jack would be awesome off the bench, I just don't know if he'll ever move there...

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                    • #11
                      Re: Artest's agent:deal is expected "sometime at the end of this week

                      Quote:
                      Originally Posted by Ron Artest
                      I'll always be a part of Donnie Walsh.




                      hmm
                      1. Simon and Garfunkle
                      2. Sonny and Cher
                      3. Jessica and Nick
                      4. Walsh and Artest..?

                      Why Not Us ?

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                      • #12
                        Re: Artest's agent:deal is expected "sometime at the end of this week

                        I get the sense that there are deals that have been laid out to Walsh....probably some with decent players....but probably not to Walsh's liking.

                        But if I hear Walsh being quoted "that he will narrow down the list by the end of the week" WEEK AFTER WEEK.....I will shoot myself.
                        Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Artest's agent:deal is expected "sometime at the end of this week

                          Isn't this the second week in a row a deal was expected at the end of the week? Or is it 3 now?

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                          • #14
                            Re: Artest's agent:deal is expected "sometime at the end of this week

                            Originally posted by Hicks
                            Isn't this the second week in a row a deal was expected at the end of the week? Or is it 3 now?
                            Maybe he means the deal will be done at the end of a week...

                            I stopped counting..

                            Why Not Us ?

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                            • #15
                              Re: Artest's agent:deal is expected "sometime at the end of this week

                              I just think that Walsh's concept of time is different then ours....a week to him is an eternity for us.

                              Maybe he just thinks in dog years...?
                              Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

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