Announcement

Collapse

The Rules of Pacers Digest

Hello everyone,

Whether your are a long standing forum member or whether you have just registered today, it's a good idea to read and review the rules below so that you have a very good idea of what to expect when you come to Pacers Digest.

A quick note to new members: Your posts will not immediately show up when you make them. An administrator has to approve at least your first post before the forum software will later upgrade your account to the status of a fully-registered member. This usually happens within a couple of hours or so after your post(s) is/are approved, so you may need to be a little patient at first.

Why do we do this? So that it's more difficult for spammers (be they human or robot) to post, and so users who are banned cannot immediately re-register and start dousing people with verbal flames.

Below are the rules of Pacers Digest. After you have read them, you will have a very good sense of where we are coming from, what we expect, what we don't want to see, and how we react to things.

Rule #1

Pacers Digest is intended to be a place to discuss basketball without having to deal with the kinds of behaviors or attitudes that distract people from sticking with the discussion of the topics at hand. These unwanted distractions can come in many forms, and admittedly it can sometimes be tricky to pin down each and every kind that can rear its ugly head, but we feel that the following examples and explanations cover at least a good portion of that ground and should at least give people a pretty good idea of the kinds of things we actively discourage:

"Anyone who __________ is a liar / a fool / an idiot / a blind homer / has their head buried in the sand / a blind hater / doesn't know basketball / doesn't watch the games"

"People with intelligence will agree with me when I say that __________"

"Only stupid people think / believe / do ___________"

"I can't wait to hear something from PosterX when he/she sees that **insert a given incident or current event that will have probably upset or disappointed PosterX here**"

"He/she is just delusional"

"This thread is stupid / worthless / embarrassing"

"I'm going to take a moment to point and / laugh at PosterX / GroupOfPeopleY who thought / believed *insert though/belief here*"

"Remember when PosterX said OldCommentY that no longer looks good? "

In general, if a comment goes from purely on topic to something 'ad hominem' (personal jabs, personal shots, attacks, flames, however you want to call it, towards a person, or a group of people, or a given city/state/country of people), those are most likely going to be found intolerable.

We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.

Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.

That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.

A slip up every once and a while is pretty normal, but, again, when it becomes repetitive or excessive, something will be done. Something occasional is probably going to be let go (within reason), but when it starts to become habitual or otherwise a pattern, odds are very good that we will step in.

There's always a small minority that like to push people's buttons and/or test their own boundaries with regards to the administrators, and in the case of someone acting like that, please be aware that this is not a court of law, but a private website run by people who are simply trying to do the right thing as they see it. If we feel that you are a special case that needs to be dealt with in an exceptional way because your behavior isn't explicitly mirroring one of our above examples of what we generally discourage, we can and we will take atypical action to prevent this from continuing if you are not cooperative with us.

Also please be aware that you will not be given a pass simply by claiming that you were 'only joking,' because quite honestly, when someone really is just joking, for one thing most people tend to pick up on the joke, including the person or group that is the target of the joke, and for another thing, in the event where an honest joke gets taken seriously and it upsets or angers someone, the person who is truly 'only joking' will quite commonly go out of his / her way to apologize and will try to mend fences. People who are dishonest about their statements being 'jokes' do not do so, and in turn that becomes a clear sign of what is really going on. It's nothing new.

In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.

Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.

If you see a problem that we haven't addressed, the best and most appropriate course for a forum member to take here is to look over to the left of the post in question. See underneath that poster's name, avatar, and other info, down where there's a little triangle with an exclamation point (!) in it? Click that. That allows you to report the post to the admins so we can definitely notice it and give it a look to see what we feel we should do about it. Beyond that, obviously it's human nature sometimes to want to speak up to the poster in question who has bothered you, but we would ask that you try to refrain from doing so because quite often what happens is two or more posters all start going back and forth about the original offending post, and suddenly the entire thread is off topic or otherwise derailed. So while the urge to police it yourself is understandable, it's best to just report it to us and let us handle it. Thank you!

All of the above is going to be subject to a case by case basis, but generally and broadly speaking, this should give everyone a pretty good idea of how things will typically / most often be handled.

Rule #2

If the actions of an administrator inspire you to make a comment, criticism, or express a concern about it, there is a wrong place and a couple of right places to do so.

The wrong place is to do so in the original thread in which the administrator took action. For example, if a post gets an infraction, or a post gets deleted, or a comment within a larger post gets clipped out, in a thread discussing Paul George, the wrong thing to do is to distract from the discussion of Paul George by adding your off topic thoughts on what the administrator did.

The right places to do so are:

A) Start a thread about the specific incident you want to talk about on the Feedback board. This way you are able to express yourself in an area that doesn't throw another thread off topic, and this way others can add their two cents as well if they wish, and additionally if there's something that needs to be said by the administrators, that is where they will respond to it.

B) Send a private message to the administrators, and they can respond to you that way.

If this is done the wrong way, those comments will be deleted, and if it's a repeating problem then it may also receive an infraction as well.

Rule #3

If a poster is bothering you, and an administrator has not or will not deal with that poster to the extent that you would prefer, you have a powerful tool at your disposal, one that has recently been upgraded and is now better than ever: The ability to ignore a user.

When you ignore a user, you will unfortunately still see some hints of their existence (nothing we can do about that), however, it does the following key things:

A) Any post they make will be completely invisible as you scroll through a thread.

B) The new addition to this feature: If someone QUOTES a user you are ignoring, you do not have to read who it was, or what that poster said, unless you go out of your way to click on a link to find out who it is and what they said.

To utilize this feature, from any page on Pacers Digest, scroll to the top of the page, look to the top right where it says 'Settings' and click that. From the settings page, look to the left side of the page where it says 'My Settings', and look down from there until you see 'Edit Ignore List' and click that. From here, it will say 'Add a Member to Your List...' Beneath that, click in the text box to the right of 'User Name', type in or copy & paste the username of the poster you are ignoring, and once their name is in the box, look over to the far right and click the 'Okay' button. All done!

Rule #4

Regarding infractions, currently they carry a value of one point each, and that point will expire in 31 days. If at any point a poster is carrying three points at the same time, that poster will be suspended until the oldest of the three points expires.

Rule #5

When you share or paste content or articles from another website, you must include the URL/link back to where you found it, who wrote it, and what website it's from. Said content will be removed if this doesn't happen.

An example:

If I copy and paste an article from the Indianapolis Star website, I would post something like this:

http://www.linktothearticlegoeshere.com/article
Title of the Article
Author's Name
Indianapolis Star

Rule #6

We cannot tolerate illegal videos on Pacers Digest. This means do not share any links to them, do not mention any websites that host them or link to them, do not describe how to find them in any way, and do not ask about them. Posts doing anything of the sort will be removed, the offenders will be contacted privately, and if the problem becomes habitual, you will be suspended, and if it still persists, you will probably be banned.

The legal means of watching or listening to NBA games are NBA League Pass Broadband (for US, or for International; both cost money) and NBA Audio League Pass (which is free). Look for them on NBA.com.

Rule #7

Provocative statements in a signature, or as an avatar, or as the 'tagline' beneath a poster's username (where it says 'Member' or 'Administrator' by default, if it is not altered) are an unwanted distraction that will more than likely be removed on sight. There can be shades of gray to this, but in general this could be something political or religious that is likely going to provoke or upset people, or otherwise something that is mean-spirited at the expense of a poster, a group of people, or a population.

It may or may not go without saying, but this goes for threads and posts as well, particularly when it's not made on the off-topic board (Market Square).

We do make exceptions if we feel the content is both innocuous and unlikely to cause social problems on the forum (such as wishing someone a Merry Christmas or a Happy Easter), and we also also make exceptions if such topics come up with regards to a sports figure (such as the Lance Stephenson situation bringing up discussions of domestic abuse and the law, or when Jason Collins came out as gay and how that lead to some discussion about gay rights).

However, once the discussion seems to be more/mostly about the political issues instead of the sports figure or his specific situation, the thread is usually closed.

Rule #8

We prefer self-restraint and/or modesty when making jokes or off topic comments in a sports discussion thread. They can be fun, but sometimes they derail or distract from a topic, and we don't want to see that happen. If we feel it is a problem, we will either delete or move those posts from the thread.

Rule #9

Generally speaking, we try to be a "PG-13" rated board, and we don't want to see sexual content or similarly suggestive content. Vulgarity is a more muddled issue, though again we prefer things to lean more towards "PG-13" than "R". If we feel things have gone too far, we will step in.

Rule #10

We like small signatures, not big signatures. The bigger the signature, the more likely it is an annoying or distracting signature.

Rule #11

Do not advertise anything without talking about it with the administrators first. This includes advertising with your signature, with your avatar, through private messaging, and/or by making a thread or post.
See more
See less

The Anime/Manga thread...

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • The Anime/Manga thread...

    For the first time...ever, A basketball anime that isn't terrible. Shoot, it's just a great basketball story in general, if you can deal with the anime style it's written in.

    Normally I'd just post this in the anime thread, but since there's hoops involved...



    Just picked this title up and can't put it down. It was obviously written by someone who really loves the game and I respect that.

    That said...yeah, some of the "surprise tactics" used by Kuroko's team have been used in every American highschool gym for the last 50 years. Japan's still lagging behind the rest of the world in basketball, and the show actually teases itself in that regard.

    Story-wise, it's exceptionally well-written. The main character being a pure point guard who's only great skills are floor awareness and court vision is something that's never been tried in American cinema. In %99 of them, it's the same old narrative of the superstar showing up to carry the team to victory. The main character of this show actually is useless on his own, but is great because he makes the teammates around him better. The basketball itself is pretty primitive, but it captures the spirit of the game flawlessly. There's something neat about celebrating that.
    Last edited by Kstat; 05-27-2012, 09:03 AM.

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

    Division Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 1989, 1990, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
    Conference Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 2005
    NBA Champions 1989, 1990, 2004

  • #2
    Re: The Anime/Manga thread...

    I figured since it's been years since the old Ranma 1/2 thread died off, I'd just go ahead and make this the new home for all anime/manga talk.

    Aside from Kuroko no Basket, I just finished watching Guilty Crown, which Sony obviously poured a ton of money into, but apparently couldn't find writers worth a **** to build a better story around the breathtaking animation and sound/music.

    Also...and it pains me to say this...but I've started reading Nazo no Kanojo X at the behest of my girlfriend, and i cannot put it down. The story is just amazing. I've never seen anything quite like it.
    Last edited by Kstat; 05-28-2012, 12:18 PM.

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

    Division Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 1989, 1990, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
    Conference Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 2005
    NBA Champions 1989, 1990, 2004

    Comment


    • #3
      Re: The Anime/Manga thread...

      The only anime I've watched in the past year and half was Getbackers, and that was just recently. I'm suffering anime withdrawal...tremors, diaphoresis, twitching. At least I've been keeping up with Naruto/Bleach manga.
      Don't ask Marvin Harrison what he did during the bye week. "Batman never told where the Bat Cave is," he explained.

      Comment


      • #4
        Re: The Anime/Manga thread...

        I only started to get back into it a few weeks ago.

        It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

        Division Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 1989, 1990, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
        Conference Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 2005
        NBA Champions 1989, 1990, 2004

        Comment


        • #5
          Re: The Anime/Manga thread...

          I'll definitely give it a shot. I love Naruto and Bleach. Can't get into OnePiece or SoulEater.

          I'm really digging Moribito, which is a short series Anime (26episodes I think). Almost done with it. It's pretty slow pace, but I've enjoyed it.

          I'll need to check out Getbackers too.

          /Cowboy Bebop is probably my favorite anime of all time (and I've never seen the last episode!)
          First time in a long time, I've been happy with the team that was constructed, and now they struggle. I blame the coach.

          Comment


          • #6
            Re: The Anime/Manga thread...

            Ongoing Manga I'm following:

            Kuroko No Basket
            Nazo No Kanojo X
            Naruto
            Bleach
            History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi
            Fairy Tail
            High School of the Dead


            Manga I've completed:

            Battle Royale
            Fullmetal Alchemist
            Soul Eater
            Ranma 1/2
            Maison Ikkoku
            Genshiken
            Death Note
            Rurouni Kenshin


            Ongoing anime I'm following:

            Fairy Tail
            Kuroko No Basket
            Kaze No Kanojo X
            Naruto


            Anime I've completed:

            Bleach
            Fullmetal Alchemist
            Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
            Ranma 1/2
            Maison Ikkoku
            Genshiken
            Kujibiki Unbalance
            Full Metal Panic
            Vandread
            Guilty Cross
            Kaze no Stigma
            Chrono Crusade
            Spiral
            X
            Infinite Stratos
            Tenjho Tenge
            Code Geass
            Neon Genesis Evangelion
            Pumpkin Scissors
            Basilisk
            Azumanga Daioh
            Cowboy Bebop
            Trigun
            Excel Saga
            History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi
            Gungrave
            Hellsing
            Love Hina
            Samurai Girls
            Kiddy Grade
            Rurouni Kenshin
            Witch Hunter Robin
            Slayers
            Scrapped Princess
            Blood-C
            Kore Wa No Zombie Desu Ka
            HighSchool of the Dead
            Afro Samurai
            Samurai 7
            FLCL
            Madoka
            Denetsu no Yusha no Denetsu
            Steins; Gate
            Samurai Champloo
            Gurren Lagen
            Basilisk
            Blood-C
            Black Blood Brothers
            Last edited by Kstat; 05-29-2012, 03:02 PM.

            It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

            Division Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 1989, 1990, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
            Conference Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 2005
            NBA Champions 1989, 1990, 2004

            Comment


            • #7
              Re: The Anime/Manga thread...

              I find more and more that the Japanese just can't end a manga/anime epically. They always get really weird (Blue Gender anyone) or just fizzle.

              Avatar The Last Airbender, did a combo of anime art style and japanese mythology, and mixed it with American storytelling. What happened was the most episodes were excellent and then ended with a pure epic fight.

              Blue Gender started out so cool and by the time I got to the end, I wondered why I was even watching this crap.

              Death Note started out epic, but I found the ending to be pretty lacking too. It's still a great series though.

              Full metal was awesome, but the ending was more of a fizzle to me. Even the movie after the end didn't set things right. I'm not sure how different Brotherhood is, but I haven't watched any of it yet. Full Metal is still a great.

              Just have no idea how the endings just don't get the attention they deserve.

              Naruto is already like that. If you're caught up in the manga, you'll see that there are major boss fights now and they are typically only lasting like 1 manga chapter. These are powerful ninjas and are getting beat so quickly. It really seems like Kishi just wants to be done with the series rather than crafting great battles. And it's pissing me off that they've totally ignored Hinata's confession for Naruto. Ahhhh!!

              Love Bleach, no problems other than they skip over the stuff about Ichigo's dad. Glad the anime is NOT cancelled, rather the anime caught up too quickly with the manga and is on hiatus for awhile.
              Last edited by Sparhawk; 05-29-2012, 02:37 PM.
              First time in a long time, I've been happy with the team that was constructed, and now they struggle. I blame the coach.

              Comment


              • #8
                Re: The Anime/Manga thread...

                Originally posted by Sparhawk View Post
                Death Note started out epic, but I found the ending to be pretty lacking too. It's still a great series though.
                I thought Death Note's ending was spectacular. Did not watch the anime version though, so maybe they messed it up.


                Full metal was awesome, but the ending was more of a fizzle to me. Even the movie after the end didn't set things right. I'm not sure how different Brotherhood is, but I haven't watched any of it yet. Full Metal is still a great.
                Fullmetal Alchemist died a slow painful death because they decided to create their own storyline instead of waiting for the Manga to finish. It was a horrible mistake and was rectified when FMA: Brotherhood re-booted the series.

                Anime producers need to understand they they are supposed to be adapting a manga for TV. They are not supposed to crate their own story. If they could do that effectively, they would be writers and not producers.

                Just have no idea how the endings just don't get the attention they deserve.
                Because %99 of anime suffers from either not staying true to the Manga they are based off of (See: FMA), or being canceled before the end of the Manga and being forced to cram in their own ending (See: Soul Eater) as a rushed substitute.

                The book is the source material. If you want a better ending, go read the manga and you'll likely get one.
                Naruto is already like that. If you're caught up in the manga, you'll see that there are major boss fights now and they are typically only lasting like 1 manga chapter. These are powerful ninjas and are getting beat so quickly. It really seems like Kishi just wants to be done with the series rather than crafting great battles. And it's pissing me off that they've totally ignored Hinata's confession for Naruto. Ahhhh!!
                Naruto is driven by popularity. It's why they have character polls in Japan every year. Hinata has fallen off the map because, well, nobody likes her.
                Love Bleach, no problems other than they skip over the stuff about Ichigo's dad. Glad the anime is NOT cancelled, rather the anime caught up too quickly with the manga and is on hiatus for awhile.
                Bleach's popularity in Japan has completely tanked since 2009. It's no longer considered a must-read. While it's probably true that they will go back and animate the final manga arc after its conclusion, there's a reason for that. As of right now, the anime is canceled, and Kubo Tite has been given his orders to wrap the Bleach Manga up sooner rather than later. This was not his call.
                Last edited by Kstat; 05-29-2012, 03:04 PM.

                It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

                Division Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 1989, 1990, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
                Conference Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 2005
                NBA Champions 1989, 1990, 2004

                Comment


                • #9
                  Re: The Anime/Manga thread...

                  That's pretty strange odd about Bleach. It's pretty awesome if you ask me.

                  What are the most popular manga right now then? Bleach is sooooo much better than OnePiece, I have no clue how anyone can stand it. It has some of the worst art I've ever seen, like a 3rd grader draws it.
                  First time in a long time, I've been happy with the team that was constructed, and now they struggle. I blame the coach.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    One piece is by far the most popular manga on earth. I dont care for it either but facts are facts. Naruto is second, but the gap is enormous. After that, it's a toss up between Blue Exorcist, Fairy Tail, and the series that has replaced Bleach as Shonen Jump's #3 series, Toriko.

                    Naruto sold roughly 7 million copies last year, making it the second-most popular manga series in the world. One Piece sold 38 million. That's more than the next seven series in the list combined.

                    FYI, Bleach came in 8th, down from 5th in 2010 and 3rd in 2009. This year, it likely won't even finish in the top 10.
                    Last edited by Kstat; 05-29-2012, 04:11 PM.

                    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

                    Division Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 1989, 1990, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
                    Conference Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 2005
                    NBA Champions 1989, 1990, 2004

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Re: The Anime/Manga thread...

                      Originally posted by Sparhawk View Post
                      Full metal was awesome, but the ending was more of a fizzle to me. Even the movie after the end didn't set things right. I'm not sure how different Brotherhood is, but I haven't watched any of it yet. Full Metal is still a great.
                      FMA: Brotherhood is a lot better than the original series. It followed the manga better, was better written, and had better combination of comedy and action. Much better show.

                      Naruto is already like that. If you're caught up in the manga, you'll see that there are major boss fights now and they are typically only lasting like 1 manga chapter. These are powerful ninjas and are getting beat so quickly. It really seems like Kishi just wants to be done with the series rather than crafting great battles. And it's pissing me off that they've totally ignored Hinata's confession for Naruto. Ahhhh!!
                      The problem with Naruto is that it's so big and there's so many storylines that they can't spend so much time on boss battles anymore. For Kishi, it's not about the individual battles as much as it is about the bigger picture, which is the war. If they focused on individual battles, it would take forever for them to finish the series.

                      Love Bleach, no problems other than they skip over the stuff about Ichigo's dad. Glad the anime is NOT cancelled, rather the anime caught up too quickly with the manga and is on hiatus for awhile.
                      I think Bleach is pretty awful honestly now. I think the manga should have ended awhile ago, it takes too long for things to get going in the series, and the storylines just are not as interesting anymore. It's kind of disappointing for me.

                      Originally posted by Kstat
                      I thought Death Note's ending was spectacular. Did not watch the anime version though, so maybe they messed it up.
                      The end of DN in the anime wasn't very good. Not sure if that's how the manga ended, but the DN anime series was very good until the early 20s episode....then it stopped being good. It was pretty disappointing.
                      Don't ask Marvin Harrison what he did during the bye week. "Batman never told where the Bat Cave is," he explained.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Re: The Anime/Manga thread...

                        I agree about Death Note, it's great for about 3/4 of it then the last part kind of sucks. I like Code Geass, Cowboy Bebop, Twelve Kingdoms, Berserk, Lucky Star, and Azumanga Daioh. There's a bunch more anime (I don't really do manga too much) that I like but those are some of my favorites.
                        "It's just unfortunate that we've been penalized so much this year and nothing has happened to the Pistons, the Palace or the city of Detroit," he said. "It's almost like it's always our fault. The league knows it. They should be ashamed of themselves to let the security be as lax as it is around here."

                        ----------------- Reggie Miller

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Re: The Anime/Manga thread...

                          Maybe they just ran out of time and rushed the ending? I thought it was one of the great endings I've ever read.

                          Go out and read the last volume if you haven't already.

                          It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

                          Division Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 1989, 1990, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
                          Conference Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 2005
                          NBA Champions 1989, 1990, 2004

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Re: The Anime/Manga thread...

                            Originally posted by Kstat View Post
                            Maybe they just ran out of time and rushed the ending? I thought it was one of the great endings I've ever read.

                            Go out and read the last volume if you haven't already.
                            I know I've see the anime, but I don't think I've read the manga. I'll have to double check on that. If I haven't, I'll read the manga and see where the differences lie.
                            First time in a long time, I've been happy with the team that was constructed, and now they struggle. I blame the coach.

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Re: The Anime/Manga thread...

                              K, how was Otakon last year? Anything good this upcoming year?
                              Don't ask Marvin Harrison what he did during the bye week. "Batman never told where the Bat Cave is," he explained.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X