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Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.

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Bosh takes subtle jab at the Pacers

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  • Bosh takes subtle jab at the Pacers

    It would be hard to top this five-day window of Miami Heat insanity, a wild ride even by the cartoonishly outsized standards we’ve come to expect involving the two-time defending NBA champions and most scrutinized team in American sports.

    Saturday brought calamity. The loss at New Orleans continuing a recent slump found anger in the locker room going from simmer to boil. LeBron James said he was sick of excuses. Chris Bosh blasted his team’s lack of “passion.” It sounded like crisis mode.

    Sunday brought a party! Give the Heat’s stars credit. Even when times are tough, these guys find time to celebrate their birthdays. Bosh turned 30 and rented out Marlins Park for an elaborate circus-themed bash featuring clowns, liquored-up snow cones, dunk tanks and capering dwarf performers.

    Monday brought a victory. It was by only two points over visiting Portland, but, after seven losses in the previous 11 games, Miami’s worst slump of the Big 3 era, seldom has a Heat regular-season game felt more important. A valve seemed to turn, releasing a hiss of built-up pressure.

    Tuesday brought a day of rest. This team needed one, for what was still ahead.

    That’s because, now, Wednesday brings the real fun, the crescendo:

    Heat at Pacers.

    It’ll be another circus, but with dunks replacing dunk tanks, and bad blood instead of clowns. For Miami it will be a huge road victory restoring an all-is-well order to the season, or a loss that, chances are, will see a return of sky-is-falling angst and doubts.

    What would a victory Wednesday mean?

    “We need to continue to get better,” began LeBron James’ answer. “It doesn’t define our season, but the way we’ve been playing lately, it would help.”

    The Pacers won the first of four season meetings, 90-84, Dec. 10 in Indiana. Miami won at home, 97-94, eight days later. After Wednesday night’s game the teams meet again, here, April 11.

    “I miss the Pacers,” said Bosh with a sly grin after Monday’s game.

    Call it a four-game teaser for the expected seven-game playoff series/grudge match in the Eastern Conference finals.

    Three factors make Wednesday’s Heat-Pacers rematch must-watch TV.

    • First, the teams’ season-long battle for the No. 1 playoff seed – meaning the home-court in that presumptive winner-take-all Game 7 – finds Indiana ahead by two games, and only one in the loss column. So Miami has a chance to move into a virtual deadlock as the season fritters to its final three weeks.

    “It’s coming down to a photo finish,” as Bosh characterized Heat vs. Pacers. “Everybody was trying to make the games important back in December. Well, now they’re important.”

    • A second point of intrigue Wednesday night: the unveiling of Greg Oden – unveiling in the sense Miami signed him with the Pacers in mind, as a direct counter to Roy Hibbert, and this will be Oden’s Heat debut vs. Indiana.

    Hibbert, 27, is 7-2 and 290 pounds. Oden, 26, is 7-0 and 273. Close enough. Let the bangin’ begin.

    “He gives us something we don’t have, so it’s encouraging,” coach Erik Spoelstra says of Oden. “The physicality. The size at the rim on both ends…”

    Oden was still under wraps rehabbing his knees, the Odentein monster not yet up off the laboratory slab, for these teams’ two December meetings.

    Now we’ll begin to see what impact Oden will have vs. Hibbert in Miami’s effort to neutralize the Pacers’ front-court size advantage. The Portland game Monday was Oden’s fifth start. There is no question Miami’s timetable for getting him fully ready has been a P&P strategy all the way: Pacers. Playoffs.

    • Third but not least: Dwyane Wade. A sore ankle Monday caused him to miss his 19th game of the season. That’s 19 of 69, or 27.5 percent. Miami likely needs a healthy Wade to win a playoff series over Indiana and have a chance at a three-peat, so his return to the lineup Wednesday would be symbolic in a you-can-count-one me sort of way.

    Wade’s 32 points vs. the Pacers led Miami’s win on Dec. 18.

    The caveat on Wade – that he remains an elite player “when healthy” – has become an increasingly necessary disclaimer. One of the “excuses” James decried the Heat using surely involves the spotty availability of Wade, yet no one more than James knows the importance of a healthy Wade.

    James himself has minor health issues he is playing through, and when he says things like he can’t afford to sit out and has an “obligation” to play, you wonder how much of that may be a subtle or even subconscious reference to the club’s careful handling of Wade. You wonder if perhaps that reflects a building frustration in James that his chief partner can’t always be counted on.

    (OK, maybe you don’t wonder that. But I do).

    How much the Heat needs Wade and how much Wade needs to prove he can still be relied upon when it matters most is why you can bet on seeing No. 3 back on the court Wednesday.

    Because this isn’t just another game.

    Afterward, you can be sure the winning team and losing team both will downplay the significance of the result.

    They’ll probably both be lying.

    Alrighty there Christopher lol

    God I hope we smack the taste out of their miami beach , lavish spending, sushi eating mouths

    If we got smacked around , could be a real exclamation point on things getting to Defcon 5
    Sittin on top of the world!

  • #2
    Re: Bosh takes subtle jab at the Pacers

    I don't see anything wrong with what he said. Hes also not exactly wrong.


    • #3
      Re: Bosh takes subtle jab at the Pacers

      Originally posted by Ace E.Anderson View Post
      I don't see anything wrong with what he said. Hes also not exactly wrong.
      No theres nothing wrong with what he said, I live for Pacers/Heat , God the NBA is quite boring without rivalries

      But he is taking a suble jab at the Pacers referring back to how much emphasis our squad put on the early season game and reference to the number 1 seed

      To me its like he's saying " OK, those earlier games were nothin, but now lets see who the big dogs are

      Everybody tries to be "politically correct" say the right things, blah blah

      I miss 90s Pacers/Knicks

      as Sosa said to Tony Montana in Scarface "I like you Tony, there is no lying in you"
      Sittin on top of the world!


      • #4
        Re: Bosh takes subtle jab at the Pacers

        Were the wins in December worth less than the wins now for some reason?


        • #5
          Re: Bosh takes subtle jab at the Pacers

          If the games are so important now, why is Miami playing as badly as we are?


          • #6
            Re: Bosh takes subtle jab at the Pacers

            He knows how easy they'll be able to stomp us tomorrow, so I can't blame him for being excited and talking a little smack
            Super Bowl XLI Champions
            2000 Eastern Conference Champions


            • #7
              Re: Bosh takes subtle jab at the Pacers

              Sounds like Playtex spokesperson of the year is looking forward to the game in Indy.

              Hope DWEST has bosh curled up in the fetal position all game long.


              • #8
                Re: Bosh takes subtle jab at the Pacers

                I have no issue with what he said besides this is rather tame compared to stuff that was said in the 90s between the Knicks/Pacers or even Bulls/Pacers.


                • #9
                  Re: Bosh takes subtle jab at the Pacers

                  They should all take that personally. Let's see if the locker room has fatal issues or not. If they don't come out tomorrow, I will not expect a recovery.
                  Lance is finally home. Whether he becomes our starting PG or he's 6th man, he's getting big minutes and he's here to stay. #llortontnia


                  • #10
                    Re: Bosh takes subtle jab at the Pacers

                    The most important thing I see about the two remaining games is that each team wants to prove to the other that they will not be beaten on their home court. But, it is just as important for the team that ends up with the #2 seed to prove that it can win on its opponent's court while holding serve at home.

                    In othe words, each of the remaining two games should be a complete dog fight.


                    • #11
                      Re: Bosh takes subtle jab at the Pacers

                      Originally posted by beast23 View Post
                      The most important thing I see about the two remaining games is that each team wants to prove to the other that they will not be beaten on their home court. But, it is just as important for the team that ends up with the #2 seed to prove that it can win on its opponent's court while holding serve at home.

                      In othe words, each of the remaining two games should be a complete dog fight.
                      Yes, there is a mental aspect to it. It affects the team's confidence and that factor could be the difference. Tomorrow night is the biggest game of the season.
                      Lance is finally home. Whether he becomes our starting PG or he's 6th man, he's getting big minutes and he's here to stay. #llortontnia


                      • #12
                        Re: Bosh takes subtle jab at the Pacers

                        Originally posted by Shade View Post
                        If the games are so important now, why is Miami playing as badly as we are?
                        It's more like a "flop to the finish". Let's see who falls face-first over the finish line.
                        There are two types of quarterbacks in the league: Those whom over time, the league figures out ... and those who figure out the league.


                        • #13
                          Re: Bosh takes subtle jab at the Pacers

                          I think this could be a huge turnaround. If we wake up and give full effort for this game, the Heat haven't been playing very well either. Could be a huge confidence booth and a bit of kindling to our fire. Like I have said a few times in the past few days, we are finally starting to give the effort again, when the shots start falling again we will be doing just fine.


                          • #14
                            Re: Bosh takes subtle jab at the Pacers

                            Let's see if we have any sack to smack back, or just only for internet pixs.
                            "Just look at the flowers ........ BANG"


                            • #15
                              Re: Bosh takes subtle jab at the Pacers

                              Obviously hope I'm wrong, but I think we're going to get demolished tomorrow. I have zero confidence we'd beat Chicago or Brooklyn in the semifinals, hell I don't even know if we'd beat Toronto.