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11/27/2012 Game Thread #15: Pacers Vs. Lakers

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  • 11/27/2012 Game Thread #15: Pacers Vs. Lakers

    LET'S JOEY CHESTNUT
    THESE KOBES!



    -VS-



    Game Time Start: 10:30 PM EST
    Where: Staples Center, Los Angeles, CA
    Officials: J. Crawford, B. Forte, T. Maddox

    Media Notes: Indiana Notes, Los Angeles Notes
    Television: FOX Sports Indiana / TWC SportsNet, TWC Deportes / SNET1 (Canada)
    Radio: WFNI 1070 AM / KSPN 710 AM, KCOR 1350 AM
    NBA Feeds:

    REMINDER: Per PD policy, please do not share a link to, describe how to search for, request a link to, or request a PM about streaming video of a NBA game that is not coming directly through the NBA. Not even in a "wink-wink, nudge-nudge, know-what-I-mean" round-about sort of way. Thank you


    6-8
    Away: 2-6
    West: 3-3
    7-7
    Home: 6-3
    East: 2-0
    Nov 30
    Dec 01
    Dec 04
    Dec 05
    10:00pm
    10:00pm
    8:00pm
    7:00pm
    HIBBERT
    WEST
    GEORGE
    STEPHENSON
    HILL
    HOWARD
    GASOL
    PEACE
    BRYANT
    MORRIS


    PACERS
    Danny Granger - left knee tendinosis (out)




    LAKERS
    Steve Blake - abdominal strain (out)
    Jordan Hill - herniated disc / sprained right wrist (probable)
    Steve Nash - non-displaced fracture, left leg (out)



    Jeremy Comstock: Indiana Isn’t Forcing Turnovers

    In searching for a telling statistic this week, much of my initial thoughts were simply
    pointing out what would be obvious to any casual observer of the Pacers: The offense
    is terrible, the schedule has been weak, Roy Hibbert is gunning for the Adonal Foyle
    award as the owner of the NBA’s worst contract, and so forth.

    While perusing Basketball Reference’s stats page, however, I came across a
    fascinating number:

    11.3%


    So far this season, the one thing that the Pacer have been able to hang their hat on
    has been defense. Sure, the team might have the second-worst offense and the
    lowest effective field goal percentage in the NBA, but the defense has been pretty
    stingy. Right now, the Pacers have the NBA’s best defense in fact, allowing just 98.2
    points per 100 possession (which, for reference, is nearly 6 points/possession better
    than league average).

    The difference, however, is where our 11.3% comes into play.

    This is the turnover rate of the Pacers’ opponents so far this season. Turnover rate
    is the percentage of opponents’ possessions that end in a turnover. The Pacers are
    currently ranked 30th in the NBA in turnover rate and are creating turnovers on
    about 2.5% fewer possessions than they did last season. What this means is that
    while they are playing some pretty stingy defense, they are not creating the
    turnovers necessary to turn that defense into instant offense. They are rarely
    grabbing a steal and running down the court for an easy basket. They are more
    often just forcing the other team to miss, grabbing the rebound and then marching
    up the court to run a terrible offensive set that probably won’t work.

    If they were able to create...CONTINUE READING AT 8p9s


    Darius Soriano: Trending Up - Metta World Peace

    Size remains a premium in the NBA, even as the league trends smaller and quicker.
    Since their first round playoff loss to the Memphis Grizzlies, the San Antonio Spurs
    have been perceived as especially vulnerable to teams with large frontlines.

    Coming into the season, I’m not sure anyone had high expectations for Metta World
    Peace. After a very good first campaign with the Lakers in 2010, Ron saw his
    production and efficiency decline the past two seasons. Last year, in particular, was
    as poor a campaign he’d had in some time as nagging injuries kept him from being
    in peak physical condition and then a late season suspension erased his progress
    once he did work his way into shape.

    This year, however, we’ve seen a brand new Ron. He’s in the best shape of his 4
    seasons in Los Angeles, spent the summer working on his outside shot, and has
    shown a renewed confidence in every aspect of his game. Plus, since the Lakers
    scrapped the Princeton Offense and moved to a more wide open style, Ron is
    thriving offensively and putting up his best numbers since he was a featured
    player in Houston and Sacramento.

    Consider the following:
    • His 14.0 points per game are his highest since the 2009 season.
    • His 43.6% shooting from the field is his highest since the 2008 season.
    • His 39.1% shooting from behind the arc is his highest since the 2009 season.
    • His 80% FT shooting is the 2nd highest mark of his career and best since he
      played for the Pacers.

    And while those are his season long numbers, recently he’s been playing even
    better. In the last 5 games (or, the games since Mike D’Antoni has been actively
    coaching — either on the bench or running practices), Ron is shooting even better
    from all spots on the floor, scoring at a higher clip (16 ppg), rebounding better,
    drawing more fouls, and committing fewer turnovers.

    The beauty of Mike D’Antoni’s system is that it allows wing players to face off
    against defenders in space. Most of the time when a wing catches the ball, he’s
    working from the weak side of the floor where there’s only one other offensive
    player to take up space. From this alignment, Ron is able to shoot his jumper in
    rhythm or use his improved first step and his (still amazing) brute strength to
    power by his man and get shots to the rim.

    Looking at Ron’s shot chart, you see this very clearly. Long two pointers and
    mid-range jumpers have nearly been abandoned for shots in (or near) the paint
    or three pointers. Because he’s knocking down the long ball at a higher
    percentage, it’s leading to defenses guarding him more closely which opens up
    his drives to the rim.

    It would be far fetched to think...CONTINUE READING AT FORUM BLUE & GOLD




    Pacers
    Mike Wells @MikeWellsNBA
    Jared Wade @8pts9secs
    Tim Donahue @TimDonahue8p9s
    Tom Lewis @indycornrows


    Lakers
    Mike Bresnahan @Mike_Bresnahan
    Dave McMenamin @mcten
    Darius Soriano @forumbluegold
    Kevin Ding @KevinDing
    This is the darkest timeline.

  • #2
    Re: 11/27/2012 Game Thread #15: Pacers Vs. Lakers

    Kobe has the flu...

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    • #3
      Re: 11/27/2012 Game Thread #15: Pacers Vs. Lakers

      These Pacers/Lakers game are always extra nerve racking for me.

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        Re: 11/27/2012 Game Thread #15: Pacers Vs. Lakers

        **EDIT** All's well that ends well... Thanks for the tips Goyle... Now let's beat these *******s!

        Talk about your huge bummers...

        (as per link in my sig) I usually attend this game each year as I live in LA.

        This year, I am back in Wisconsin for Thanksgiving and not flying home till tomorrow morning.

        Which means not only will I miss the game in person, but I cannot even watch it on TV because my NBA LP Broadband account will black out the game since the zip code on file for my purchase is a southern California zip code

        Anyone have any ideas or suggestions as to how to circumvent that? I just realized this morning that the stupid black out rules would apply to me even though I am in Wisconsin. This is usually my one big "potential bragging rights" game each year... Really sad to potentially miss it, even though I've technically paid for it.
        Last edited by TMJ31; 11-27-2012, 06:58 PM.

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          Re: 11/27/2012 Game Thread #15: Pacers Vs. Lakers

          Originally posted by TMJ31 View Post
          Talk about your huge bummers...

          (as per link in my sig) I usually attend this game each year as I live in LA.

          This year, I am back in Wisconsin for Thanksgiving and not flying home till tomorrow morning.

          Which means not only will I miss the game in person, but I cannot even watch it on TV because my NBA LP Broadband account will black out the game since the zip code on file for my purchase is a southern California zip code

          Anyone have any ideas or suggestions as to how to circumvent that? I just realized this morning that the stupid black out rules would apply to me even though I am in Wisconsin. This is usually my one big "potential bragging rights" game each year... Really sad to potentially miss it, even though I've technically paid for it.
          Are you sure they black it out based on zip code? Last year I was able to watch a Lakers game on LPBB by using a proxy, so if you're in Wisconsin it should work without a proxy. Have you tried an archived Lakers or Clippers game?

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            Re: 11/27/2012 Game Thread #15: Pacers Vs. Lakers

            Originally posted by Goyle View Post
            Are you sure they black it out based on zip code? Last year I was able to watch a Lakers game on LPBB by using a proxy, so if you're in Wisconsin it should work without a proxy. Have you tried an archived Lakers or Clippers game?
            Really? Proxy worked?

            Wow! This is great!

            I am able to watch the Lakers archived games. Perhaps there is hope after all.

            I don't remember why, but for some reason I was told somewhere that it had to do with ZIP codes. Maybe that's changed now, or I was just misinformed.

            Either way, I am optimistic and very glad
            Last edited by TMJ31; 11-27-2012, 06:56 PM.

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            • #7
              Re: 11/27/2012 Game Thread #15: Pacers Vs. Lakers

              The Underachieving Bowl

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              • #8
                Re: 11/27/2012 Game Thread #15: Pacers Vs. Lakers

                I got a feeling Paul's gonna struggle tonight against Ron.

                I wonder what we're going to do with Lance? Ron's probably too strong, and Kobe's too good. I hope they have him guard the PG.

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                  Re: 11/27/2012 Game Thread #15: Pacers Vs. Lakers

                  Originally posted by TMJ31 View Post
                  Really? Proxy worked?

                  Wow! This is great!

                  I am able to watch the Lakers archived games. Perhaps there is hope after all.

                  I don't remember why, but for some reason I was told somewhere that it had to do with ZIP codes. Maybe that's changed now, or I was just misinformed.

                  Either way, I am optimistic and very glad
                  don't need a proxy either, your ip will "give you away" and show you are not in LA, main reason they started LPB is to let ppl watch games when they travel, would be silly to black out
                  So Long And Thanks For All The Fish.

                  If you've done 6 impossible things today?
                  Then why not have Breakfast at Milliways!

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                  • #10
                    Re: 11/27/2012 Game Thread #15: Pacers Vs. Lakers

                    Last edited by MagicRat; 11-27-2012, 08:41 PM.
                    PSN: MRat731 XBL: MRat0731

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                    • #11
                      Re: 11/27/2012 Game Thread #15: Pacers Vs. Lakers

                      lol that team was fun last year

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                      • #12
                        Re: 11/27/2012 Game Thread #15: Pacers Vs. Lakers

                        I would love to see a 9/13 shooting game from Hibbert again.

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                        • #13
                          Re: 11/27/2012 Game Thread #15: Pacers Vs. Lakers

                          I absolutely HATE these late west-coast game tip offs ..

                          I usually have to head to start working around 9:30, sometimes 10 at latest .. I won't get to see this game at all... /sigh
                          10:30 tip off is ridiculous IMO.

                          I usually listen to talk radio and/or different ballgames on my mobile phone with headphones while I am working all night, so I figured at LEAST I'd get to listen live...

                          I guess I was wrong, ARGHHHH!!!

                          And what REALLY sucks, is during one of the last games I was gonna miss watching, I even tried IHeart radio to listen to 1070 because it is actually available as a local station on it, and the damn game was blacked out... i'm like WTF?!?
                          I even went so far as to download the 1070 the fan mobile app... no dice, it was blacked out too..

                          I don't understand it, why it was blacked out.. that sucks..
                          So I don't know of any way to be able to listen really, as I have no access to a radio while I work, and since I clean a huge building, it is impractical to bring in a radio since I will be all over the building working ..

                          The ONLY thing I can think of, is trying to login to nba.com audio league pass, which is free , and listen through the mobile browser...
                          The only thing that sucks is , I tried it on the Toronto/ Houston game just a few minutes ago and it seemed to be laggy and buffer quite a bit... .. sigh....

                          Anyone who may have any ideas I haven't thought of , your suggestions would be appreciated.. lol....

                          ..
                          "They want to be famous. We want to be champions. They want to be rappers and backup dancers. We want to play football." - T.J. Ward, Denver Broncos

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                          • #14
                            Re: 11/27/2012 Game Thread #15: Pacers Vs. Lakers

                            If Lance doesn't get a chance to breakout during this road trip, then Vogel needs to re-think his coaching future
                            Being unable to close out a game in which you have a comfortable lead in the 4th Q = Pulling a Frank Vogel

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                            • #15
                              Re: 11/27/2012 Game Thread #15: Pacers Vs. Lakers

                              Kobe's a go

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