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5/15/2012 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #2: Pacers Vs. Heat

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    Game Time Start: 7:00 PM EST
    Where: AmericanAirlines Arena, Miami, FL
    Officials: J. Crawford, B. Adams, E. Malloy, D. Jones

    Media Notes: Indiana Notes, Miami Notes
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    Chris Bosh - Lower Abdominal Strain (out indefinitely)

    Jared Wade: What Bosh Not Playing Means and Indiana Playing Small Ball

    Eric Spoelstra is being coy about his starting lineup for Game 2.

    Chris Bosh is (almost) certainly out. Many presume that means Miami will move
    LeBron James to now-vacant power forward slot while putting Shane Battier at the
    other forward. Tom Haberstroh of ESPN’s Heat Index said the Spo “smiled” earlier
    today when reporters asked if LeBron would start at the 4, saying only that “all
    options are on the table.”

    Going small after Bosh went down is not what Spoelstra did Game 1. He instead
    opened the second half with a more traditional front court of James, Udonis Haslem
    and Ronny Turiaf. Still undersized no doubt, but there were two prototypical big
    men on the court. That didn’t last long, however. LeBron and Battier played the
    entire fourth quarter at the 4 and 3 spots, respectively, as the Heat dominated the
    Pacers for 12 straight minutes on their way to the victory. In one 3-minute stretch
    early in the period, those two — along with Joel Anthony in the front court and
    Dwayne Wade and Mike Miller at the guard spots — went on a 10-2 run from which
    the Pacers would never recover.

    As that shows, whether or not LeBron starts at power forward in Game 2 is more
    semantics than anything. Regardless who steps on the court at tip-off, Indiana is
    certain to see plenty of him at the position throughout the series, particularly if
    Bosh, as some presume, will not play again.

    In some very obvious ways, this benefits Indiana.

    Unstoppable Size

    The Heat have nobody on their roster who can guard the 7’2″ Roy Hibbert.
    Without the 6’11″ Bosh — Miami’s tallest rotation player — Hibbert will have an
    even more glaring size advantage. Bosh isn’t exactly Kevin Garnett defensively,
    and Roy had his was with him in early in Game 1, but Spoelstra can’t be excited
    about having to take his chances with any of Joel Anthony, Udonis Haslem or
    Ronny Turiaf guarding Hibbert one-on-one when there isn’t even another
    traditional big man on the floor to clog up the paint.

    For what it’s worth, even battling foul trouble that eventually led to him fouling
    out, Hibbert went 2-for-3 with two free-throw attempts and 2 offensive boards in
    9 fourth-quarter minutes on Sunday, even as the Pacers went away from the
    post-up game by launching...CONTINUE READING AT 8p9s

    5-on-5 preview: Pacers-Heat, Game 2

    In another postseason installment of the Heat Index's 5-on-5 series, our writers give
    their takes on the storylines before the Heat host the Pacers in Game 2 Tuesday night.

    1. Fact or Fiction: Roy Hibbert will get 20-and-10 in Game 2.

    Tim Donahue, 8 points, 9 seconds: Fiction. It's possible, but unlikely. There
    are too many things that mitigate against Hibbert getting much more than 30 minutes
    - fouls, match ups, conditioning. In addition, Hibbert is too easy to take away, if he
    becomes the main focus of the offense. The 17 & 11 he put up Sunday feels awfully
    close to his peak to me.

    Tom Haberstroh: Fact. Expecting big things from him in Game 2. I see Frank
    Vogel getting back to his roots, and studying the tape to find a better way to get him
    the ball in the post with Chris Bosh ailing. Secondly, the Heat know that locking down
    the perimeter and creating havoc in the passing lanes will lead them to fastbreak
    opportunities. They'll "let" Hibbert get his.

    Jared Wade, 8 points, 9 seconds: Fiction. He only dropped a 20/10 four times
    this regular season and couldn't manage to do so against the center-less Magic in the
    first round. Doubt he starts now against one of the league's premier defensive teams.

    Michael Wallace: Fiction. I believe Hibbert will get the rebounding numbers.
    But he doesn't have to quite score 20 for the Pacers to be effective. In order for
    Indiana to fully exploit its size/strength advantage, Hibbert's production must be
    complemented by David West.

    Brian Windhorst: Fact. He only got 27 minutes and 12 shots in Game 1 because
    of foul trouble. He also had to play a half against Bosh. And he still had 17 points and
    11 rebounds. No excuse not to improve on that.

    2. Fact or Fiction: Danny Granger needs to step up more than Hibbert.

    Donahue: Fact. Miami proved that they can live with the Pacer bigs having their
    way, provided Indiana gets little or nothing from the perimeter. The Pacers have little
    or no chance of winning a game - let alone the series - if Granger doesn't play better
    at both ends.

    Haberstroh: Fact. This is their leading scorer and he was invisible offensively.
    The Heat don't respect Granger quite on the same level as Carmelo Anthony, but he's
    clearly much less capable against James. If they have any hope of stealing a game in
    Miami, Granger needs to hit his shots. Otherwise, where else are those points going to
    come from?

    Wade: Fact. The Pacers spread the scoring around pretty evenly but Granger
    usually finishes near 20 points when they're playing at their best. This means he gets
    a few open threes, a few transition points and a few points he creates by getting to the
    rim or pulling up in the mid-range. He needs to find a way to score or Indiana is toast.

    Wallace: Fact. Granger claimed that Vogel apologized after the Game 1 loss for
    not getting him more involved offensively. Granger also has to be much better than 1
    for 10 from the field. Bottom line is Granger must make James work much harder
    defensively at a time when he'll be carrying an even bigger load to make up for Bosh's

    Windhorst: Fiction. The Pacers hopes are on Hibbert, he has to be a force. He
    has to compel the Heat to alter their defense and get out of their preferred style.
    Granger of course has to play better, he can't be going 1-of-10. But after watching
    Granger play against James about 25 times over the years, I do not expect greatness.

    3. Fact or Fiction: You expect the foul disparity to even out in Game 2.

    Donahue: Fact. No good way to answer this, but 9 is a big gap, so it will likely
    go down. Miami (read: James and Wade) attacks the rim much more, and that will
    create more fouls. Unless Granger and Paul George become much more active, the
    Pacers will remain...CONTINUE READING AT HEAT INDEX

    Brett Koremenos: Heat vs. Pacers - Game 2 Adjustments

    Slow down, post up
    Indiana’s inability to punish the Heat inside in Game 1 wasn’t so much about posts being
    fronted and not getting the ball inside, but not allowing things to develop enough to see
    if the read was even available.

    Tonight, the Pacers’ biggest adjustment must simply be to have more patience. Too many
    times, Indiana’s ball handlers rushed their actions and forced themselves into bad spots.
    On the fronting issue in particular, the player making the entry pass needs to slow down,
    use pass or shot fakes to make the defense commit to either helping on the big or staying
    on the shooter, and then make the corresponding read.

    Once the Pacers show some poise, then the tactical adjustments can be made. The first
    being that head coach Frank Vogel needs to eliminate any post ups on the block for
    players not named Roy Hibbert. David West is much better facing the basket and none of
    the Pacer wings have shown enough post dominance to warrant touches other than in
    extreme situations (like Granger with one foot in the paint and Mario Chalmers switched
    onto him).

    Vogel also needs to switch how he is getting Hibbert his post looks. Miami’s fronting
    scheme is most effective in two situations: when the Pacers run a cross screen into a
    post up or when they simply look for him in transition. In both of these situations,
    weakside helpers can easily position...CONTINUE READING AT HOOPSPEAK

    Philip Rossman-Reich: What will it take for Pacers to pull off improbable upset?

    Frank Vogel will kill me already for calling this an upset despite his Indiana Pacers being
    down 1-0 in their playoff series with the Miami Heat.

    Undoubtedly, though to many NBA observers, a Pacers victory in their second-round
    matchup with the Heat would be nothing less than an upset of monumental proportions.
    Miami after all is the world beaters with the supposed cake-walk to the NBA Finals
    thanks to Derrick Rose's injury and Chicago's subsequent elimination.

    The Celtics, even, are the real opponent awaiting the Heat, not the third-seeded Pacers.

    Face Indiana at your own risk though. This is a team that is feeling extremely confident
    after a virtual sweep of Orlando in the first round, closing out the five-game series with
    four straight wins. What the Pacers lack in experience (and maybe some poise), they
    make up for in athleticism and versatility. The Pacers were a matchup nightmare for
    the undersized Magic and had plenty of time to experiment.

    While the Heat had several blowout victories against the Pacers during the season, the
    Playoffs ARE a different animal as both teams will likely learn in this series. Frank Vogel
    is one of the best rising coaches in the league and he is already learning the battle of
    words and posturing that comes with being this deep in the Playoffs. This is a team that
    has strengths where the Heat have weaknesses -- point guard, center and bench depth.


    Mike Wells @MikeWellsNBA
    Jared Wade @8pts9secs
    Tim Donahue @TimDonahue8p9s
    Tom Lewis @indycornrows
    Ian Levy @HickoryHigh

    Brian Windhorst @windhorstESPN
    Tom Haberstroh @tomhaberstroh
    Peninsula is Mightier @DavidDwork
    Last edited by avoidingtheclowns; 05-15-2012, 03:36 PM.
    This is the darkest timeline.

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    Re: 5/15/2012 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #2: Pacers Vs. Heat

    With Bron playing PF there are so many things that change about this series..

    But one thing that stays the same and should even be happening more so than ever, go to Hibbert!

    West trying to guard Bron will be a disaster, either need to play zone or maybe put west on battier and granger on Bron


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      Re: 5/15/2012 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #2: Pacers Vs. Heat

      Can't wait for tip-off tonight. This is a big, BIG game and I think we'll come out ready to win tonight. Vogel will be bringing his best and Granger and George almost have to play better by default.

      Let's bring this series to Indy with a 1-1 tie! Then we can take care of business at home and have them on the ropes.
      It's a new day for Pacers Basketball.


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        Re: 5/15/2012 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #2: Pacers Vs. Heat

        Originally posted by Ownagedood View Post
        ... or maybe put West on Battier and Granger on Bron

        And whomever Battier is guarding, ATTACK!
        The poster "pacertom" since this forum began (and before!). I changed my name here to "Slick Pinkham" in honor of the imaginary player That Bobby "Slick" Leonard picked late in the 1971 ABA draft (true story!).


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          Re: 5/15/2012 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #2: Pacers Vs. Heat

          Didn't realize Haslem was shooting so poorly. Should be able to take advantage of that by sagging more into the paint for rebounds and even charges. Hope they take advantage rather than continuing to miss rotations.

          Still concerned about Miami not hitting any threes in Game 1.

          Pump fakes to Paul George this postseason has been fat cake to a kid.
          You Got The Tony!!!!!!


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            Re: 5/15/2012 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #2: Pacers Vs. Heat

            Sitting in an airport in Calgary for the next 4 hours... already scoping the bars with TV screens. Whoever is willing to flip to the game will get a big drink order and tip on behalf of me (on behalf of my employer!!!!)
            "I mean, you'd walk into our dressing room and run into Mel Daniels holding a .45 -- it makes you wonder."

            Bob Netolicky


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              Re: 5/15/2012 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #2: Pacers Vs. Heat

              Originally posted by Slick Pinkham View Post

              And whomever Battier is guarding, ATTACK!
              I know Battier is getting older, but it wasn't that long ago he was one of the premier defensive SFs in the league.


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                Re: 5/15/2012 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #2: Pacers Vs. Heat

                Originally posted by TinManJoshua View Post
                I know Battier is getting older, but it wasn't that long ago he was one of the premier defensive SFs in the league.
                Yes, but that changed very quickly, it seems. Those possessions he was on Danny were the only time he even tried to do anything in game 1, and he beat Battier pretty handily. Compared to Lebron anyway, Battier is now a sieve. He used to be beastly, almost Artest-like, but father time is knocking....
                The poster "pacertom" since this forum began (and before!). I changed my name here to "Slick Pinkham" in honor of the imaginary player That Bobby "Slick" Leonard picked late in the 1971 ABA draft (true story!).


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                  Re: 5/15/2012 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #2: Pacers Vs. Heat

                  I don't like the fact that Joey Crawford is officiating.
                  "He wanted to get to that money time. Time when the hardware was on the table. That's when Roger was going to show up. So all we needed to do was stay close"
                  Darnell Hillman (Speaking of former teammate Roger Brown)


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                    Re: 5/15/2012 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #2: Pacers Vs. Heat

                    Originally posted by aceace View Post
                    I don't like the fact that Joey Crawford is officiating.
                    Hopefully, he'll throw out tech's for flopping. Or (more likely) 't' up Vogel for complaining about rewarded flops and crappy calls.
                    "I mean, you'd walk into our dressing room and run into Mel Daniels holding a .45 -- it makes you wonder."

                    Bob Netolicky


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                      Re: 5/15/2012 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #2: Pacers Vs. Heat

                      Any word on inactives? Want Fes to get some run.


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                          Re: 5/15/2012 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #2: Pacers Vs. Heat

                          Row 7 today. They gave me a t shirt.
                          "Danny Granger is one of the top players in the league. To move Danny, you better get a lot back." - Larry Bird


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                            Re: 5/15/2012 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #2: Pacers Vs. Heat

                            Originally posted by cgg View Post
                            Row 7 today. They gave me a t shirt.
                            Burn it.


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                              Re: 5/15/2012 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #2: Pacers Vs. Heat

                              West on NBATV right now