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Rule #1

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We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.

Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.

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Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.

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    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft...raft-version-2


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    sorry I usually get on PD b4 i leave for somewhere but this is the best i could get it in the time i had

    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Charlotte

    Anthony Davis

    Position: PF
    Height: 6-foot-10
    Weight: 220 pounds
    Age: 19
    School: Kentucky
    (The Bobcats have a 25 percent chance of winning the lottery.)

    Analysis: The Bobcats, along with every other team in the lottery, got a huge scare on Sunday when Davis went down with what looked like a knee injury. Davis ended up being just fine, allowing Wildcats fans and everyone to breath a sigh of relief. Whether you think this draft is really good or just so-so, it drops dramatically if Davis isn't in it.

    For the Bobcats, Davis could be a franchise changer. Pair him together with Bismack Biyombo on the front line, and I'm not sure anyone will score in the paint against them.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Washington

    Michael Kidd-Gilchrist

    Position: SF
    Height: 6-foot-7
    Weight: 210 pounds
    Age: 18
    School: Kentucky
    (The Wizards have a 19.9 percent chance of winning the lottery.)

    Analysis: The Wizards got two encouraging signs this weekend: (1) Kidd-Gilchrist shook off a mini-slump to produce two of the best games of his career in propelling Kentucky to the Final Four, and (2) sources say MKG will declare for the draft after the Wildcats' season is over.

    Kidd-Gilchrist tweeted that he hasn't actually made a decision yet, but given his previous stance was that he intended to stay in school, the writing is on the wall. Adding his toughness and leadership would be crucial for a Wizards team that is in desperate need of both.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    New Orleans

    Thomas Robinson

    Position: PF
    Height: 6-foot-9
    Weight: 237 pounds
    Age: 21
    School: Kansas
    (The Hornets have a 15.6 percent chance of winning the lottery.)

    Analysis: The Hornets will have a tough call here. Andre Drummond has more upside, but if they're trying to build a team around winners, then Robinson is the man. He has carried a mediocre Kansas team on his back to the Final Four and just refuses to back down. He'll bring toughness, physicality and energy to the paint in New Orleans.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Portland (via Nets)

    Bradley Beal

    Position: SG
    Height: 6-foot-5
    Weight: 195 pounds
    Age: 18
    School: Florida
    (The Blazers have an 11.9 percent chance of winning the lottery.)

    Analysis: The Blazers grabbed this pick from the Nets as part of the Gerald Wallace deal the teams struck before the trade deadline. It's Top 3 protected, so the pick could still revert back to New Jersey. Beal is coming off a terrific weekend in which he finally started playing like the talent he is. He would be a perfect long-term replacement for Brandon Roy.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Toronto

    Andre Drummond

    Position: C
    Height: 6-foot-11
    Weight: 275 pounds
    Age: 18
    School: UConn
    (The Raptors have an 8.8 percent chance of winning the lottery.)

    Analysis: The Raptors have been looking for a legit small forward for the past several years and Harrison Barnes would be a perfect fit. However, after Barnes' struggles this past weekend against Ohio and Kansas, the Raptors may want to take another look to see if he still has the upside we all thought he did coming out of high school.

    Drummond has been a disappointment, too, but if you are going to miss, you probably ought to miss big. Pairing him in a frontcourt with last year's lottery pick, Jonas Valanciunas, could finally make Andrea Bargnani expendable.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Detroit

    Cody Zeller

    Position: C
    Height: 6-foot-11
    Weight: 210 pounds
    Age: 19
    School: Indiana
    (The Pistons have a 5.4 percent chance of winning the lottery.)

    Analysis: The Pistons are in desperate need of size and athleticism in the frontcourt. While I think the Pistons would prefer Drummond, Zeller would still be a great get. He's quick, tough and very polished for a freshman. Pairing him with Greg Monroe would immediately make the Pistons better -- if Zeller actually decides to declare.


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    Sacramento

    Harrison Barnes

    Position: SF
    Height: 6-foot-8
    Weight: 210 pounds
    Age: 19
    School: North Carolina
    (The Kings have a 5.3 percent chance of winning the lottery.)

    Analysis: The Kings need a small forward and landing Barnes at this point in the draft could be a steal. Yes, he looked oddly passive late in the season and seems one-dimensional, but Barnes' ability to defend and shoot the jumper should be welcome in Sacramento. If he turns into a Danny Granger/Glen Rice sort of player down the road, the Kings would get great value here.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Cleveland

    Perry Jones III

    Position: PF
    Height: 6-foot-11
    Weight: 235 pounds
    Age: 20
    School: Baylor
    (The Cavs have a 2.8 percent chance of winning the lottery.)

    Analysis: The Cavs need talent and, based on pure talent, there are few players who hold a candle to Jones. He's struggled to stay engaged offensively and defensively for Baylor, which is a huge concern -- if Jones didn't have those issues, he'd be battling Davis for the No. 1 pick. But at some point in the draft the reward outweighs the risk. What do the Cavs have to lose here?


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Utah (via Warriors)

    Damian Lillard

    Position: PG
    Height: 6-foot-2
    Weight: 185 pounds
    Age: 21
    School: Weber State
    (The Jazz have a 1.7 percent chance of winning the lottery.)

    Analysis: The Jazz need a point guard, but this draft doesn't appear to have an elite PG prospect right now. The question is whether to go with Lillard (an explosive scorer who can play both positions), Kendall Marshall (a pure point guard who is an excellent facilitator) or Tony Wroten Jr. (the most talented of the group, but also the riskiest). I think they split the difference and go with Lillard, but the truth is this decision is very much up in the air right now.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Milwaukee

    James Michael McAdoo

    Position: PF
    Height: 6-foot-9
    Weight: 233 pounds
    Age: 19
    School: North Carolina
    (The Bucks have a 1.1 percent chance of winning the lottery.)

    Analysis: McAdoo had a breakout game against Kansas in the Elite Eight, scoring 15 points in 19 minutes. He's unproven, but his athleticism, versatility and upside make him a pretty safe pick at No. 10. McAdoo isn't really a need for the Bucks, but they can keep collecting talent.


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    Portland

    Tyler Zeller

    Position: C
    Height: 7-foot
    Weight: 235 pounds
    Age: 22
    School: North Carolina
    (The Blazers have a 0.8 percent chance of winning the lottery.)

    Analysis: If the Blazers can land Beal with their first pick, they would likely look to fill one of their holes at center or point guard. In a weak point guard draft, their two available options at the 1 would be Marshall and Wroten. While both have strengths, I think the Blazers would rather go big and take Zeller. He's not going to be a star, but the senior runs the floor like a guard and has improved each season.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    New Orleans
    (via Wolves)

    Kendall Marshall

    Position: PG
    Height: 6-foot-4
    Weight: 188 pounds
    Age: 20
    School: North Carolina
    (The Hornets have a 0.7 percent chance of winning the lottery.)

    Analysis: Marshall helped his stock more than any player in the tournament last weekend, even though he didn't play a minute. North Carolina, with all of its talent, struggled to find a coherent offense without Marshall conducting the show. He's not Chris Paul, but he would make everyone around him better in New Orleans.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Phoenix

    Jared Sullinger

    Position: PF
    Height: 6-foot-9
    Weight: 280 pounds
    Age: 20
    School: Ohio State
    (The Suns have a 0.6 percent chance of winning the lottery.)

    Analysis: Sullinger doesn't necessarily fill a need -- the Suns drafted Markieff Morris to play the 4 last year -- but he's the best player left on the board and the type of guy who could immediately give Phoenix a very different but dominant look in the paint.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Houston

    Jeremy Lamb

    Position: SG
    Height: 6-foot-5
    Weight: 185 pounds
    Age: 19
    School: UConn
    (The Rockets have a 0.5 percent chance of winning the lottery.)

    Analysis: Lamb is a versatile swingman somewhat in the mold of Kevin Martin. But with Martin heading into the last year of his deal in Houston, Lamb could be a nice long-term replacement.


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    Houston (via Knicks)

    John Henson

    Position: PF
    Height: 6-foot-10
    Weight: 210 pounds
    Age: 21
    School: North Carolina
    Analysis: The Rockets lack long, athletic bigs, and Henson would give them a defensive presence who can guard both forward positions. He's still raw offensively, but he has a little Andrei Kirilenko in his game.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Denver

    Terrence Jones

    Position: PF
    Height: 6-foot-8
    Weight: 244 pounds
    Age: 20
    School: Kentucky
    Analysis: Jones has enough talent to be five or six spots higher in the draft, but his inconsistent attitude may push him down a few spots. He'd be a great fit for the Nuggets, another versatile player who can play either forward position and shoot the basketball.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Minnesota (via Jazz)

    Austin Rivers

    Position: SG
    Height: 6-foot-4
    Weight: 199 pounds
    Age: 19
    School: Duke
    Analysis: The Wolves would get this pick if the Jazz fall out of the lottery. Minnesota's biggest need is at 2-guard and Rivers would be a fantastic fit. His abilities to get to the basket and shoot from downtown are coveted, and with alpha dogs Ricky Rubio and Kevin Love already in place, Rivers may actually start playing to his strengths instead of trying to take over the team like he did at Duke.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Boston

    Royce White

    Position: SF
    Height: 6-foot-8
    Weight: 240 pounds
    Age: 20
    School: Iowa State
    Analysis: White has as much talent as virtually anyone in this draft. But there are questions about some off-court issues and an anxiety disorder that includes the fear of flying. I think Doc Rivers might be the perfect coach to get through to him.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Philadelphia

    Terrence Ross

    Position: SG
    Height: 6-foot-6
    Weight: 190 pounds
    Age: 21
    School: Washington
    Analysis: Jodie Meeks is the closest thing the Sixers have to a great 3-point shooter. Adding Ross should be an instant upgrade at the backup shooting guard spot.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Memphis

    Meyers Leonard

    Position: C
    Height: 7-foot
    Weight: 240 pounds
    Age: 20
    School: Illinois
    Analysis: Leonard isn't the most polished big man in the draft, but that seems to be the sort of thing owner Michael Heisley loves. Marc Gasol is great, but after him the Grizzlies really do need some help in the middle.


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    Houston (via Mavs)

    Quincy Miller

    Position: SF
    Height: 6-foot-9
    Weight: 210 pounds
    Age: 19
    School: Baylor
    Analysis: Here the Rockets go for a player with a lot more talent than his draft position suggests. Miller is still working through some issues from an ACL surgery in his senior year of high school and was not a primary option for Baylor this season. But if he declares, he has tremendous upside at the 3.


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    Boston (via Clippers)

    Dion Waiters

    Position: SG
    Height: 6-foot-4
    Weight: 215 pounds
    Age: 20
    School: Syracuse
    Analysis: Danny Ainge has never been one to shy away from troubled talent, and in Waiters he could land a star. While size is a much bigger need, Waiters' abilities to get to the basket and score in transition are impressive. If he has matured, the Celtics could be getting a steal here.


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    Atlanta

    Tony Wroten Jr.

    Position: PG
    Height: 6-foot-5
    Weight: 205 pounds
    Age: 18
    School: Washington
    Analysis: The Hawks continue their search for a real point guard. Jeff Teague has been solid this season, but Wroten has so much more upside. On talent alone, he should be a top-5 pick. He's a steal if the Hawks get him here.


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    Indiana


    Patric Young

    Position: C
    Height: 6-foot-9
    Weight: 245 pounds
    Age: 20
    School: Florida
    Analysis: The Pacers are always looking for toughness and defense in the frontcourt, and Young brings both. Jeff Foster's midseason retirement has been a blow, but Young could end up doing some of the same things. He doesn't do much of anything on the offensive end, but he has Ben Wallace-like potential on defense. However, Young currently has stated that he'll be returning to Florida for his junior season.


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    Cleveland (via Lakers)

    Jeff Taylor

    Position: SF
    Height: 6-foot-7
    Weight: 225 pounds
    Age: 22
    School: Vanderbilt
    Analysis: Taylor is another elite athlete who can play way above the rim. What he's lacked for most of his career is a great jump shot. But Taylor has improved dramatically in that area lately, making him a lethal weapon on both ends of the floor. The Cavs really need help at the 3, making this a nice match.


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    Orlando

    Arnett Moultrie

    Position: PF
    Height: 6-foot-11
    Weight: 225 pounds
    Age: 21
    School: Mississippi State
    Analysis: Moultrie has all the physical tools to be a dominant NBA player. He is long and super athletic and can even get things done on the perimeter. He's just taken a little longer to develop.


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    Golden State
    (via Spurs)

    Moe Harkless

    Position: SF
    Height: 6-foot-8
    Weight: 190 pounds
    Age: 18
    School: St. John's
    Analysis: The Warriors could really use some help at the small forward position. Harkless reminds me a little of Trevor Ariza. He is a terrific scorer and defender who needs to get a more settled jump shot.


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    Miami

    Draymond Green

    Position: SF
    Height: 6-foot-6
    Weight: 235 pounds
    Age: 22
    School: Michigan State
    Analysis: The Heat need players with experience who excel in bringing out the best in their teammates. Green can be a point-forward type who does a little bit of everything. Think of him as a better-passing Udonis Haslem.


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    Oklahoma City

    Mason Plumlee

    Position: PF
    Height: 6-foot-10
    Weight: 230 pounds
    Age: 22
    School: Duke
    Analysis: Plumlee's upside is probably similar to that of the Pacers' Jeff Foster. While he won't be a dominant player on either end of the floor, he's big, he'll defend and he'll flush things around the rim.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Chicago

    Andrew Nicholson

    Position: PF
    Height: 6-foot-9
    Weight: 222 pounds
    Age: 22
    School: St. Bonaventure
    Analysis: Nicholson has gotten dramatically better every season and has some David West to his game. He would be a good fit in Chicago -- especially since the Bulls wouldn't mind finding a new home for Carlos Boozer this summer.

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      Re: Can someone post this article?

      I don't pay any attention to mock drafts until after the date of April 10th which is the date players can withdraw their names from the draft and retain their college eligibility. There will be some of these players who won't be in the draft this year.

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        Indiana


        Patric Young

        Position: C
        Height: 6-foot-9
        Weight: 245 pounds
        Age: 20
        School: Florida
        Analysis: The Pacers are always looking for toughness and defense in the frontcourt, and Young brings both. Jeff Foster's midseason retirement has been a blow, but Young could end up doing some of the same things. He doesn't do much of anything on the offensive end, but he has Ben Wallace-like potential on defense. However, Young currently has stated that he'll be returning to Florida for his junior season.

        I'm calling BS on this one. Even if he was coming out and having never seen Young play, he averages 26min and only pulls down 6 boards and less than 1 block/gm.

        Not to mention that Green and Moultrie are still on the board, as well as Tony Mitchell, who he doesn't have going in the first round.
        First time in a long time, I've been happy with the team that was constructed, and now they struggle. I blame the coach.

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          Kstat, I know you like Cody so, Cody or Drummond for the Pistons, if you had the choice?


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            I'd almost rather have Taylor than a center unless the Center is Melo or Ezeli. I'd look for Marquis Teague, Fab Melo and Jeff Taylor with our first pick, and maybe we can trade up to an early second rounder and snag Ezeli if we grab Taylor or Teague first.

            Taylor helps us by solidifying Paul George as our 2 of the future. He has no business playing 3 instead of Danny when they both bring size advantages at their positions. Don't change what works.

            Marquis Teague helps in multiple ways; he brings a good point presence that would give us a good 1-2 punch at 1. DC would play where he plays at his best, where he belongs, with the second unit. Teague can pass, he can score, and he has all the potential in the world (not on Paul's level, but still can be a solid starter). This is all aside from the fact that he's a hometown kid who will bring marketability for the team to the city. This is similar to Lebron in Cleveland or Rosie in Chicago. I'm not nearly saying he's on their level of talent, but the hometown marketability is comperable.


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              Originally posted by Steagles View Post
              I'd almost rather have Taylor than a center unless the Center is Melo or Ezeli. I'd look for Marquis Teague, Fab Melo and Jeff Taylor with our first pick, and maybe we can trade up to an early second rounder and snag Ezeli if we grab Taylor or Teague first.

              Taylor helps us by solidifying Paul George as our 2 of the future. He has no business playing 3 instead of Danny when they both bring size advantages at their positions. Don't change what works.

              Marquis Teague helps in multiple ways; he brings a good point presence that would give us a good 1-2 punch at 1. DC would play where he plays at his best, where he belongs, with the second unit. Teague can pass, he can score, and he has all the potential in the world (not on Paul's level, but still can be a solid starter). This is all aside from the fact that he's a hometown kid who will bring marketability for the team to the city. This is similar to Lebron in Cleveland or Rosie in Chicago. I'm not nearly saying he's on their level of talent, but the hometown marketability is comperable.


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              I actually thought Teague was kind of a disappointment at KU. He's basically the same player his brother is (extremely fast and can get to the basket, but is wildly inconsistent shooting the ball), and on the plus side, he does have more size, and defensive potential. But I'm not sold he is better than DC. Both short term, and long term.

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                Originally posted by Steagles View Post
                I'd almost rather have Taylor than a center unless the Center is Melo or Ezeli. I'd look for Marquis Teague, Fab Melo and Jeff Taylor with our first pick, and maybe we can trade up to an early second rounder and snag Ezeli if we grab Taylor or Teague first.

                Taylor helps us by solidifying Paul George as our 2 of the future. He has no business playing 3 instead of Danny when they both bring size advantages at their positions. Don't change what works.

                Marquis Teague helps in multiple ways; he brings a good point presence that would give us a good 1-2 punch at 1. DC would play where he plays at his best, where he belongs, with the second unit. Teague can pass, he can score, and he has all the potential in the world (not on Paul's level, but still can be a solid starter). This is all aside from the fact that he's a hometown kid who will bring marketability for the team to the city. This is similar to Lebron in Cleveland or Rosie in Chicago. I'm not nearly saying he's on their level of talent, but the hometown marketability is comperable.


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                If Teague waits a year, he can be a lottery pick which means more money over his rookie contract. It would more than pay for the loss of a mil as a 20 something pick. Not to mention the experience gained by staying another year. Personally, I'm hoping he stays in school.

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                  Originally posted by Ace E.Anderson View Post
                  I actually thought Teague was kind of a disappointment at KU. He's basically the same player his brother is (extremely fast and can get to the basket, but is wildly inconsistent shooting the ball), and on the plus side, he does have more size, and defensive potential. But I'm not sold he is better than DC. Both short term, and long term.
                  I thought he was too, until the tourney. He has improved vastly in March and I think he is the main reason they are in the Final Four. Not Davis, not Kidd-Gilchrist. Teams were ready for them, but when the time came he stepped up and played well and carried the team when teams were stopping K-G and Davis.
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                    I say we go for a raw player.

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                      Originally posted by Justin Tyme View Post
                      If Teague waits a year, he can be a lottery pick which means more money over his rookie contract. It would more than pay for the loss of a mil as a 20 something pick. Not to mention the experience gained by staying another year. Personally, I'm hoping he stays in school.
                      I hope he does too. It will do him good. However, I'm going to be realistic for a moment: A star player, a point guard at that, staying for his sophomore season at the point-guard-factory UK? I'll believe it when I see it.
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                        I didn't realize Houston has 3 first round picks!!

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                          I think Teague goes pro. His brother wasn't firmly in the lottery either when he declared. Don't think their family cares much about the education.


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                            This draft is supposed to be great and all, but I'm not sure I see a franchise guy, yet. Still need to see more. Anthony Davis could be your defensive answer at center for years, so I guess that qualifies, but there isn't a Durant or Lebron in this group, that I can see.

                            Even Harrison Barnes starts to look like, just a scorer. I don't mean that as a knock, just mean he may not give you much else. Sullinger projected 13 or so, he seems like the most likely to be able to be a Brand type. I had him pegged top 3-6. PJ3 has oodles of size and talent, coupled with a shot, I have a hard time seeing him going that low as well.

                            I'm just saying, this draft looks deep on quality starters which is really nice, but does it have any or many allstars?

                            I'd love to have Kidd Gilcrest, but right now he gets transition basket and boards against lesser competition. He's a great piece, but I can't ever see him being the man. Same with Thomas Robinson. Drummond could be the best player in this draft if he works at it and is dedicated or he could be a guy that never develops.

                            Lots of young, young guys who are really hard to project imo.

                            Most importantly, after Anthony Davis who's the best fantasy bet in this group? Having trouble seeing it.

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                              I think Cody would look really good paired with Monroe. Of course, I think he'd look good anywhere away from Bloomington.
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