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  • Chad Ford on Paceres and coaching news

    http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/38021

    Josh (Indianapolis)


    Can we agree that the Pacers have made the Bulls look really bad?

    Chad Ford (1:13 PM)

    I don't see it that way. I think the Pacers are much better than people have given them credit for. They're deep, balanced and play really, really hard. They're just young, lost a lot of focus under Jim O'Brien and they lack a true superstar to take over in the 4th Quarter. They should be up 2-0 on the Bulls -- but that's not because the Bulls have played poorly. If Pacers could find a way to get a true star who could get his own shot ... they'd be title contenders in the East. Unfortunately, there isn't a lot of talent in the FA market or in the trade market to see exactly where that guy is coming from.

    Kyle (almond, ny)


    How close to contending do you think the Pacers are? I really like their young pieces. Everyone they have is still young.

    Chad Ford (1:35 PM)

    They need more help on the boards. A long athletic rebounder would help them a lot. And they need a guy who can create off the dribble and get his own shot. Down the road, Paul George may be that guy. But that's probably another year or two away. What's crazy is all the talk that the Pacers need a front office change with Larry Bird and David Morway's contracts up. It's nuts. They've done a terrific job of building a team with middling draft picks, smart contracts and an eye toward depth and chemistry. Few GMs resumes will stack up to what they've done.

    miser (ct)


    chad,I think Rick Adelman would be the perfect hire for Joe D in Detroit...thoughts??

    Chad Ford (1:37 PM)

    He's going to get a lot of looks. Lakers (if Phil's gone), Detroit, Indiana. He's so respected. I'm a bit surprised Houston pulled the plug. I look at the Rockets weak roster and I see they won 43 games in the West and I think they must have a helluva coach.

    John (Austin)


    Chad, is the Rockets job a good job? Morey seems to really be a high-maintainence GM to deal with.

    Chad Ford (1:38 PM)

    The word is that they've been in hot pursuit of Mike Brown. Makes sense if the Rockets feel like they need to start emphasizing defense. But Houston won't be the only guy after Brown. Detroit and Indiana will also be in play.
    My dream scenerio would be we hire Rick Addleman or Mike Brown and make Vogel the lead aqssistant coach
    Last edited by 90'sNBARocked; 04-21-2011, 11:48 AM.
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        Re: Chad Ford on Paceres and coaching news

        Originally posted by 90'sNBARocked View Post
        My dream scenerio would be we hire Rick Addleman or Mike Brown and make Vogel the lead aqssistant coach
        Sign me up... Adelman is one of the greatest offensive gurus in the history of the game and Vogel knows how to get our guys to play some amazing D (although we still can't box out for ****, which could be a personnel problem).
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        Starting 5: Mike Conley, Eric Gordon, Gordon Hayward, Zach Randolph, and Greg Oden
        Bench: George Hill, Josh McRoberts, Courtney Lee, Luke Harangody, Jeff Teague, Jared Jefferies, Rodney Carney, Matt Howard, and the Zeller brothers.

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          Re: Chad Ford on Paceres and coaching news

          It's good that the Pacers are getting this level of exposure....but Ford isn't saying anything that hasn't been said by other sources.
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            Re: Chad Ford on Paceres and coaching news

            Originally posted by 90'sNBARocked View Post
            http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/38021



            My dream scenerio would be we hire Rick Addleman or Mike Brown and make Vogel the lead aqssistant coach
            I don't think you'll have a situation with both Adelman and Vogel on the same coaching staff.

            Vogel has high stock right now. If the Pacers keep playing like this for however long they still have games to play, there's a very good chance Vogel will get an offer from another team if the Pacers would rather have someone else as the coach.

            And if you were Vogel's agent, you'd tell him to look for a head coaching job one way or another. If the Pacers would rather have Adelman, then start looking for another team that will give you the headcoaching spot. You strike when the iron is hot, and right now Vogel is hot. You don't play nice boy and go back to obscurity as an assistant when you have a huge career opportunity like this.

            Right now, if Vogel decides to slide down the bench to make room for Adelman without even looking for another head coaching job, my hats off to him. A sign of true loyalty to an organization. It would also be a sign of someone who doesn't know how to make career choices and has little respect for himself.
            Last edited by d_c; 04-21-2011, 12:15 PM.

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              Re: Chad Ford on Paceres and coaching news

              I say keep Vogel. The players obviously love him. Plus, he's done an excellent job coaching this series.

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                Re: Chad Ford on Paceres and coaching news

                I like Vogel too. A few concerns would be:

                1. He had an easy schedule
                2. Larry had say so over rotational minutes
                3. Honeymoon factor (See Lawrence Frank)
                4. To be fair he hasn't won a playoff game against a team whos never gotten out of the 1st round.

                I know that sounds harsh, but I am in favor of keeping him. I just have my reservations. I DO NOT want Mike Brown. Sloan, Vogel, or Adleman in that order.

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                  Re: Chad Ford on Paceres and coaching news

                  Originally posted by CableKC View Post
                  It's good that the Pacers are getting this level of exposure....but Ford isn't saying anything that hasn't been said by other sources.
                  Really bro?

                  Thats the first time I heard Addleman linked to the Pacers
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                    Re: Chad Ford on Paceres and coaching news

                    Originally posted by d_c View Post
                    I don't think you'll have a situation with both Adelman and Vogel on the same coaching staff.

                    Vogel has high stock right now. If the Pacers keep playing like this for however long they still have games to play, there's a very good chance Vogel will get an offer from another team if the Pacers would rather have someone else as the coach.

                    And if you were Vogel's agent, you'd tell him to look for a head coaching job one way or another. If the Pacers would rather have Adelman, then start looking for another team that will give you the headcoaching spot. You strike when the iron is hot, and right now Vogel is hot. You don't play nice boy and go back to obscurity as an assistant when you have a huge career opportunity like this.

                    Right now, if Vogel decides to slide down the bench to make room for Adelman without even looking for another head coaching job, my hats off to him. A sign of true loyalty to an organization. It would also be a sign of someone who doesn't know how to make career choices and has little respect for himself.
                    I feel ya bro, I do and u make good points

                    I just dont know if Vogel is completely ready yet and were basing a lot of 20 plus games. I dont want Vogel gone but a coach with a track record like Addleman doesnt become available often
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                      Re: Chad Ford on Paceres and coaching news

                      Originally posted by righteouscool View Post
                      I say keep Vogel. The players obviously love him. Plus, he's done an excellent job coaching this series.
                      Didnt they "love" Obie in the begining ?
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                        Re: Chad Ford on Paceres and coaching news

                        Originally posted by Thoreau87 View Post
                        Sign me up... Adelman is one of the greatest offensive gurus in the history of the game and Vogel knows how to get our guys to play some amazing D (although we still can't box out for ****, which could be a personnel problem).
                        Yeah I do not see Vogel take a step back in his career. The guy had a wining record as head coach and has the Pacers playing strong against the number one overall seed in the playoffs. Some other team will take a chance on him as their head coach.

                        I would love for Vogel to stay, but I only see that happening if we give him the HC position.

                        Do not get me wrong he could be that loyal, but I highly doubt it. I would not mind Adelman or Vogel, but I have my reservations about Brown.

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                          Re: Chad Ford on Paceres and coaching news

                          Originally posted by LetsTalkPacers View Post
                          I DO NOT want Mike Brown. Sloan, Vogel, or Adleman in that order.
                          Why Bro?
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                            Re: Chad Ford on Paceres and coaching news

                            Originally posted by 90'sNBARocked View Post
                            Why Bro?
                            I just dont like Brown. I really dont have a legit reason why. I know sloan is not an option but he would be my top choice. Vogel and Adleman are a tie for second and I would be happy with either. Adleman is a proven HC though.

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                              Re: Chad Ford on Paceres and coaching news

                              I want Frank the Tank here long-term. If he doesn't earn it with this playoff series, what would he have to do? Win the championship? He's been outcoaching the guy that is probably going to win Coach of the Year...

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