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The Pacers Summer League thread

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  • #16
    Re: The Pacers Summer League thread

    Originally posted by LoneGranger33 View Post
    I believe it is my sole duty and responsibility as a member of this forum to start the Pepsi Pro Summer League Thread every year, and you, sir, have taken that away from me.

    I get the feeling Stanko will send in a comment or two again this year.
    Ha ha ha!

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    • #17
      Re: The Pacers Summer League thread

      If only Stanko was actually in the games.

      I like summer ball to measure speed, hops and strength of a few rookies against any known quantities out there. For example, we should get to see Price out there with Rush so we will have some idea if he's in the same ballpark or not, and if he is then he has a shot to stick with the team.


      What sucks is they haven't been in Orlando long. 4-5 years ago they were Minny and you could attend games. I nearly drove up for Artest's return in summer ball, with Bender also returning from injury (for the final time it turned out).

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      • #18
        Re: The Pacers Summer League thread

        Those two guys amuse me far more than the crappy summer games.
        Report: 82% Of Wiseguys Think They're Real Funny

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        • #19
          Re: The Pacers Summer League thread

          Man, our summer squad of Hibbert, Hansbrough, Rush, Price, and McRoberts is like a Dickie V all-star team. Those 5 with granger is a team full of potential, I can see Price making the cut easy.
          Roy Hibbert.... It's the POWER!!!

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          • #20
            Re: The Pacers Summer League thread

            2 Artests on the same team???? lol should be fun to watch. anyone know where paul harris is?

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            • #21
              Re: The Pacers Summer League thread

              wait...so are these games televised?

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              • #22
                Re: The Pacers Summer League thread

                Originally posted by B00sh View Post
                wait...so are these games televised?
                Live on the Internet via that website posted at the beginning of this thread, but not on TV.

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                • #23
                  Re: The Pacers Summer League thread

                  No Bulls or Heat this year, huh? The Jazz and the Celtics are newcomers. Philly too? I can't seem to recall.

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                  • #24
                    Re: The Pacers Summer League thread

                    i would love for the pacers to finally be one of those lucky teams that look really smart finding a diamond in the rough after draft night, i'm looking at you leo lyons!

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                    • #25
                      Re: The Pacers Summer League thread

                      Im with you on the "Diamond In The Rough" bit, although I think Aaron Jackson may fit that mold as well. Especially if we arent able to keep Jack.

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                      • #26
                        Re: The Pacers Summer League thread

                        This is cool.. Hope we can get some stat lines and observations from the games .

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                        • #27
                          Re: The Pacers Summer League thread

                          Originally posted by Psycho T View Post
                          This is cool.. Hope we can get some stat lines and observations from the games .
                          The Orlando Magic website will provide box scores for every game.

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                          • #28
                            Re: The Pacers Summer League thread

                            Man, 3 games at 3pm, none at 5. It's going to be tough for me to catch the early games.

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                            • #29
                              Re: The Pacers Summer League thread

                              http://www.nba.com/pacers/news/rfa_roster_2009.html

                              Pacers 2009 Rookie/Free Agent Roster Player Bios

                              Will Blalock
                              A second round draft pick of the Detroit Pistons in 2006, he split time as a rookie between the Pistons and their NBADL affiliate, the Sioux Falls Skyforce…in 14 games for the Pistons, he averaged 1.8 ppg, 1.2 apg and 1.1 rpg…assigned to the Skyforce in February, he averaged 8.9 ppg, 6.3 apg and 4.2 rpg in 12 games, 11 of which he played as a reserve...following a brief two-game stint early in the 2007-08 season with Hapoel Jerusalem in Israel's Premier League, he returned to the D-League and played 41 games with Anaheim Arsenal…with Anaheim, he was eighth in the league with an average of 5.3 apg, while also averaging 12.5 ppg and 1.4 spg…in 2008-09, he played 23 games for the Artland Dragons in Germany's Bundesliga…for the Dragons, he averaged 4.2 ppg, 2.3 apg and 1.5 rpg…he scored in double figures twice, once in Eurocup and once in the Bundesliga…in his first domestic league game, he scored 12 points vs. Paderborn Baskets, shooting 3-4 FGS and 6-6 FTS…in a Eurocup game against Spain's Bilbao Basket, he scored 10 points on 5-8 from the floor.

                              Derrick Byars
                              A Second Team All-NBADL selection, he averaged 17.8 ppg, 4.9 rpg and 2.8 apg in 49 appearances for the Bakersfield Jam in 2008-09…he ranked 19th in the league with 17.9 ppg and led the Jam in 3-pt field goal percentage with a mark of 38.3 percent--which was 16th best in the NBADL…originally drafted by Portland (with a pick acquired from the Pacers) in the second round of the 2007 NBA Draft, he was traded on draft night to Philadelphia…after being waived by the Sixers in training camp, he signed with the Koeln 99ers in Germany's Bundesliga where he played a total of eight games and averaged 5.0 ppg…released by the 99ers in December 2007, he signed the following January with Chorale de Roanne Basket in the France, where he averaged 8.8 ppg, 3.6 rpg and 2.1 apg in 10 games…named to the 2007 All-SEC First Team after a senior season at Vanderbilt in which he averaged 17.0 ppg, 4.9 rpg and 3.4 apg…he started his collegiate career at Virginia, where he averaged 7.0 ppg and 3.1 rpg in two seasons.

                              Tyler Hansbrough
                              The ACC’s all-time leading scorer with 2,872 points (12th in NCAA history), he is the only player in league history to earn First Team All-America and First Team All-ACC honors four times…he is first in NCAA history with 982 free throws made and is second with 1,241 attempts from the line…he ranks fourth in NCAA Tournament history with 325 points and holds the ACC record for career 20-point games with 78….he is the North Carolina Tar Heels’ all-time leading rebounder (1,219)….as a senior in 2008-09, he was named First-Team All-America by Sporting News, USBWA, NABC and AP…he finished second in the ACC in scoring (20.7 ppg), and sixth in rebounding (8.1 rpg), field goal percentage (.514) and free throw percentage (.841)…he was named to the ACC All-Tournament First Team after averaging 25.0 points and 9.5 rebounds…he was also named to the NCAA Final Four All-Tournament Team after helping North Carolina claim the NCAA championship…he scored 18 points in both Final Four games vs. Villanova and Michigan State. Missed four games early in the season due to injury…as a junior, he was named the 2008 National Player of the Year by the AP, USBWA, NABC and Sporting News after finishing second in the NCAA in total points (931) and leading the ACC in both scoring (22.6 ppg, 12th in NCAA) and rebounding (10.2 rpg, 17th in NCAA)…he finished second in the country in field goal percentage (.540) and ninth in free throw percentage (.806)…he led the nation in free throws made (304) and attempted (377)….he was named the ACC Player of the Week eight times, a league single-season record.

                              Roy Hibbert
                              Acquired in July, 2008, along with TJ. Ford, Maceo Baston and Rasho Nesterovic in exchange for Jermaine O'Neal and the draft rights to Nathan Jawai, he played in 70 games and averaged 7.1 ppg with 3.5 rpg…as a starter, he averaged 9.0 ppg and 4.1 rpg in 42 games…as a starter, he shot 151-319 from the floor (.473) and 76-109 FTS (.697), compared to 47-101 FGS (.465) and 22-38 FTS (.579) as a reserve…second on the team with 76 blocked shots, his average of 3.62 blocks per 48 minutes played ranked sixth best among all NBA players with at least 50 appearances and was second among rookies with 50+ games, behind the Clippers' DeAndre Jordan (3.67)…in just 56 minutes, he blocked 10 shots in the season's last three games and those outings represented the only time all season he had at least three blocks in three straight games…he had rejected at least three shots just three times in the his first 67 games…he blocked a season-high five shots twice: vs. the Clippers, 12/19, and vs. the Utah Jazz, 3/10…he had multiple blocks 18 times in 2008-09, including nine of his last 32 appearances…in his last 32, he averaged 1.34 bpg, compared to just 0.87 bpg in his first 38 outings…his 76 blocked shots ranked third among NBA rookies, behind Brook Lopez of New Jersey (151) and Memphis's Marc Gasol (90)…he scored a season-high 19 points in the Pacers' two-point loss to New Orleans, 12/28…he was third on the team with 115 offensive rebounds in 2008-09, and his career-high nine total rebounds featured five at the offensive end…in his last 10 games, he averaged 6.3 rpg and had seven or more six times.

                              Aaron Jackson
                              Earning All-Atlantic 10 honors and First Team NABC All-District honors as a senior, he led his team in scoring (19.3 ppg) and assists (5.7 apg), while ranking second in steals (1.7 spg) and rebounds (5.5 rpg)…his 194 assists on the season set a school record…he ranked second in the Atlantic 10 in scoring, third in assists, third in field-goal percentage, third in free-throw percentage, fourth in assist-to-turnover ratio, fourth in minutes, and fifth in steals…his 55.4 percent field-goal mark ranked second among all Division I guards…he also ranked 36th nationally in scoring and 21st in assists per game…he scored in double-digits a team-high 32 times, including 15 times over 20 points…he scored 46 points against Virginia Tech in the NIT, the last game of his career, while also scoring 36 points against Radford and 30 against Charlotte earlier in the season…he hit eight 3-pt FGS in the game against Virginia Tech, tying a school record…he also tied a school record by playing in 120 consecutive games, not missing a single game his entire career…at Duquesne, he ranks third in career assists (505), sixth in steals (169), and seventh in field-goal percentage (.521)…he scored in double digits 65 times in his career, while scoring 20 or more 18 times…he won Atlantic 10 Player of the Week a school-record six times in his career

                              Trey Johnson
                              In 39 games for the Bakersfield Jam in the NBA Developmental League (NBADL) in 2008-09, he averaged 20.7 ppg which was good enough for 10th in the league…fourth on the team in 3-pt field goals made with 45, he was first among Jam players with at least 10 attempts from long distance with a mark of 40.9 percent from beyond the arc...however, he did not have enough attempts to qualify for the league leaders…he signed the first of two 10-day contracts with the Cleveland Cavaliers, 2/3, and made his NBA debut that night vs. Toronto…he played a total of four games for Cleveland, scoring four points on 4-4 from the foul line against the Suns, 2/11…he also had one rebound against Phoenix and those were his only points and rebound in the NBA…after being waived by the New Orleans Hornets in training camp, he started his first pro season in Serbia with KK Hemofarm Stada Vrsac, where he averaged 3.6 ppg in 11 appearances…he was released by KK Hemofarm Stada Vrsac in January 2008 and subsequently signed with Bakersfield…in his first season in the NBADL, he played 23 games, averaging 12.3 ppg, 4.1 apg and 3.5 rpg…in 62 career games in the D-League, he has shot 247-311 (.794) from the free throw line…the 2007 Southwestern Athletic Conference (SWAC) Player of the Year, he was second in the nation with an average of 27.1 ppg as a senior…he led, shared the team lead, in scoring in 33 of 35 games and scored 30+ points 13 times…he exploded for a career-high 49 points vs. UTEP on his way to earning MVP honors in the Sun Bowl tournament…as a junior, he averaged

                              Leo Lyons
                              Helping Missouri claim its first Big 12 Tournament title in 16 years and advance to the NCAA Elite Eight, he earned All-Big 12 Third Team honors after averaging 14.6 points and 6.1 rebounds per game as a senior…he ranked fifth in school history with 245 free throws attempted and seventh with 182 free throws made as a senior….he reached double figures in scoring in 33 of 37 games, including a career-high 30 points in a win over Baylor…he recorded five double-doubles on the season…he grabbed a season-high 15 boards and added 13 points at Colorado…he recorded 23 points and 10 rebounds vs. Cornell in the first round of the NCAA tournament…he scored 15 points and grabbed 12 boards vs. Memphis in the NCAA Tournament's Sweet Sixteen…as a junior, he was named to the Big 12 All-Improved Team after averaging 13.1 ppg and 5.7 rpg on the season…he led the Big 12 in field goal percentage (.583)….in the Tigers' final 16 games of the 2007-08 season, he averaged 16.1 ppg and 8.0 rpg…in Big 12 conference play, he ranked 10th in both scoring (14.3 ppg) and rebounding (6.5 rpg)….he led Mizzou with six 20-point games…in one of the best games of his career, he scored 27 points on 12-13 shooting from the floor and grabbed a career-high 18 boards vs. Oklahoma State, breaking Mizzou Arena records for rebounds and field goal accuracy…he followed that with a 22-point, 15-rebound effort at Baylor…he tallied 23 points and 11 rebounds vs. Maryland at the College Basketball Experience Classic in Kansas City.

                              Josh McRoberts
                              The Carmel, Indiana native was acquired from the Portland Trail Blazers in the deal that brought Jarrett Jack and the draft rights to Brandon Rush to the Pacers in exchange for Ike Diogu and the draft rights to Jerryd Bayless, 7/9…following five straight DNP-CDs to start the season, he made his regular season debut for the Pacers vs. Oklahoma City, 11/10, scoring two points with a rebound, an assist, a steal and a blocked shot…that was his first career rejection and just his second steal…in the Pacers' win at Philadelphia, 12/20, he scored in double figures for the first time in the NBA with 10 points on 5-12 FGS…he added eight boards in that game, including three offensive rebounds--which was more than he had claimed in eight games with Portland the season before…beginning with a 10-minute stint vs. his former team, in which he scored two points and collected four rebounds vs. the Blazers, 3/18, he saw action in 12 of the team's final 14 games…in those 12 appearances, he scored as many points (40) as he had in his first 21 outings…in his final 12 games, he shot 17-35 FGS (.486) and scored in double figures twice…he recorded a career-high 12 points on 5-8 FGS and 2-2 FTS vs. Toronto, 4/8…he added a career-high 11 rebounds against the Raptors for his first career double-double…he scored 10 points vs. Chicago, 3/31, on 4-6 from the floor and 2-3 from the foul line…in the season's last month, he had 11 offensive rebounds in 12 games, including two each in games at Oklahoma City, 4/5, vs. Toronto, 4/8, and vs. Milwaukee, 4/15…prior to April, he had more than one offensive board four times in 21 games.

                              A.J. Price
                              In three seasons at Connecticut, he tallied 1,284 career points, ranking 25th all-time in school history…he also dished out 469 career assists (4.7 apg), finishing ninth in school history…an All-Big East Second Team, USBWA All-District First Team and Big East All-Tournament Team selection, he was a finalist for the Bob Cousy Award as a senior…in his senior season, he averaged a career-high 14.7 ppg and dealt 4.7 apg…he shot 82-204 from 3-pt range (.402)…named MVP of the West Regional, he averaged 19.0 ppg in the 2009 NCAA Tournament…he had 27 and 20 points, respectively, in tournament wins over Texas A&M and Tennessee-Chattanooga…he had 33 points and 10 assists in the Huskies' Big East quarterfinal loss to Syracuse…he recorded career bests with 36 points, including 8-13 3-pt FGS and 12 assists in a win at Marquette…he had a team-high 18 points and eight assists vs. Pitt…he scored 17 points in a win over Syracuse and 29 points in a win over Villanova….he recorded 24 points and 10 assists in a win over Gonzaga, hitting the game-tying 3-pt FG with 8.5 seconds left in regulation…named to the All-Big East First Team as a junior, he was also named to the USBWA All-America and was voted the District Player of the…a finalist for the Wooden Award, he led UConn in assists (6.0 apg) and finished second in scoring (14.5 ppg)…he played nine minutes in the first round of the NCAA tournament before tearing the ACL in his left knee…diagnosed with arteriovenous malformation (AVM), causing bleeding in his brain, he missed the 2004-05 season and underwent radiosurgery treatment in February 2005…he received full medical clearance in May 2006.

                              Brandon Rush
                              Including a high of 22 points in a start against the New Jersey Nets, 12/23, he averaged 8.1 ppg and shot 37 percent from 3-pt range in his first 28 appearances…those 28 outings included the first five starts of his NBA career and he averaged 13.0 ppg with 6.6 rpg in those starts…he registered his first career double-double with 10 points and a career-best 11 rebounds vs. Golden State, 12/17…following that 22-point effort against the Nets it would be more than a month, and 16 appearances, before he would score in double figures again…in his 16 games between 12/26 and 2/6 he totaled 38 points and went scoreless eight times…in that 16-game span he shot 11-36 FGS, 7-20 3-pt FGS and 1-4 FTS…at Washington, 2/8, he scored 11 points on 4-10 FGS, 2-4 3-pt FGS and 1-1 FT, for his only effort of 10+ points in a span of 27 games, and 21 appearances, from 12/26 to 2/18…beginning with a 10-poiint outing at Minnesota, 2/20, he scored 10 or more points in 16 of his last 26 games and did so in 12 of his last 13 games...his 22-point game against the Nets in December was his only 20-point effort in his first 65 games…but, he scored at least 20 in five of his last 10 games, including his last three in a row…including 18 in the first quarter, he scored a career-high 29 points at Chicago, 3/28…he matched that total in the Pacers' very next game, helping to lead them to a win over the Washington Wizards at Conseco Fieldhouse, 3/29…against the Wizards, he also led the Pacers with 10 rebounds, giving him his second double-double of the campaign…in those two games, he shot 26-44 FGS, 5-11 3-pt FGS and 1-1 FT, while accumulating 14 rebounds…he scored 20+ points in each of the last three games of the season, averaging 24.0 ppg pnm 29-51 FGS (.569), 11-18 (.611) 3-pt FGS and 3-4 FTS.

                              Courtney Sims
                              A First Team All-NBADL selection in 2008-09 while playing for the Iowa Energy, he led the league in field goal shooting (.605), ranked third in both rebounding (11.0 rpg) and blocked shots (2.03 bpg) and was fifth in scoring (22.8 ppg)…he was called up to the NBA twice, signing his first 10-day contract with the Phoenix Suns, 2/14, and then signing one with the New York Knicks, 3/23…he scored the first six points of his NBA career on 3-6 FG vs. Detroit, 4/8…he added a career-best four rebounds in his 11 minutes of that game…he made three appearances for the Pacers during the 2007-08 regular season, collecting two rebounds in a total of 11 scoreless minutes…in two separate stints with Indiana, he spent 13 games on the team's inactive list before being ultimately waived in December (12/19)…he signed with the Iowa Energy of the NBADL in March and played the final 16 games…he was the team's second leading scorer at 15.6 ppg and also led the team with an average of 6.4 rpg…as a senior at the University of Michigan in 2006-07, he averaged 11.5 points, 6.2 rebounds and 1.3 blocks per game...he made 29 starts in 35 appearances for the Wolverines and did not miss a single game in his career, playing in 133 consecutive games--third on the Wolverines' all-time consecutive games played list...the second player in Michigan history to record 200-plus career blocks (213), he shot 58.6 percent from the field, fifth on the Wolverines' all-time list.

                              Anthony Smith
                              He earned First Team All-Big South conference honors for a senior campaign in 2009 in which he ranked fifth in the Big South conference in scoring (17.6 ppg) and pulled down a career-best 6.5 rebounds per contest, which was ninth best in the Big South….he concluded his Liberty career ranked ninth all-time in the Big South Conference in scoring, while finishing sixth in the Liberty annals…his 1,754 career points rank second only to Larry Blair (2,211) in Liberty’s Division I era…he made 75 in 2008-09 and was 12th in the Big South with 2.14 3-pt FG made per game…among all players in the country to attempt at least 100 3-pt FGS in 2007-08, he was of only five to shoot 50+ percent from the floor overall and hit at least 40 percent from beyond the 3-pt line, joining Malik Hairston of Oregon, James Harden of Arizona State, Mario Chalmers of Kansas and Lee Cummard of BYU…among these five players, he was the only one to have attempted 200+ 3-pt FGS…as a junior in 2007-08, he started 31 of 32 games and ranked in the top 10 in five Big South individual categories, including scoring average (sixth, 16.0), field goal percentage (fifth, .515), 3-pt shooting (fourth, .413), 3-pt field goals made (fifth, 2.6) and defensive rebounds (ninth, 3.9)…he broke Liberty records for three-point field goals (84) and three-point field goal attempts (205), while setting the fifth-best season success rate from beyond the arc (41.3)…he was the 20th player in program history to reach the 1,000-point plateau.

                              Scott Vander Meer
                              The leading shot blocker and rebounder in the Horizon League in 2008-09, the Dyer, Indiana native (Lake Central H.S.) was named to the league's All-Defensive Team for the third straight season after averaging 8.9 rebounds and 2.5 blocked shots per game…he led the Horizon League in blocked shots in each of his three seasons at UIC and was the league's top rebounder as both a junior and senior…he is the Flames' all-time leader in blocked shots with 273 and his 111 rejections in his first season (2006-07) at UIC established the school record…he also holds the school record for blocks in a single game with nine vs. Cleveland State, 1/27/07…he also averaged 11.9 ppg in 2008-09 and scored in double figures 18 times with nine double-doubles.

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                              • #30
                                Re: The Pacers Summer League thread

                                It'd be cool (and inexpensive) to see Courtney Sims to have shown enough improvement to be deserving of a roster spot. (Plus, we could use more depth at the 5.)


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