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What was Chad Ford saying last year about us and the draft?

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  • What was Chad Ford saying last year about us and the draft?

    Does anyone have access to year-old articles about who he thought we'd be interested in and who we might take as of a few days before the 2008 draft?

    I thought it might be interesting to look back in an attempt to see how close/far off he is about us this year.

    I've heard he finally gets it close at the 11th hour, but what about like now, when it's still 4 days away?

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    Re: What was Chad Ford saying last year about us and the draft?

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2...ckDraft-080626

    Chad Ford's Mock Draft, Version 7.2: Picks 1-30

    By Chad Ford
    ESPN.com

    Editor's note: This mock draft was updated at 7:12 p.m. ET to reflect the latest information we're getting today.

    Finally, NBA draft day is here. After weeks of uncertainty, we'll get resolution Thursday night (ESPN, live) in one of the most unpredictable drafts in recent history.

    Even at this stage, mock drafts are not an exact science. Less than 24 hours before the draft, the teams drafting at No. 2 and No. 3 still didn't know what they were going to do.

    After talking to numerous NBA team sources, here's our latest take on how the draft will play out. Check back later Thursday for updates to the mock draft.

    Chicago

    Derrick Rose
    Position: PG
    Height: 6-3
    Weight: 196
    Age: 19
    School: Memphis
    The skinny: With the first pick in the 2008 NBA draft, the Chicago Bulls select …

    No one expects any surprises on Thursday. Rose has been the popular choice for weeks, and his selection has seemed to be a foregone conclusion for the past two weeks.

    I think it's a wise choice. Though Beasley is an offensive beast, Rose gives the Bulls leadership, athleticism, defense and a winning attitude. He'll make everyone in Chicago better and quickly help turn around a franchise in desperate need of a shot in the arm.

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    Miami

    Michael Beasley
    Position: PF
    Height: 6-8
    Weight: 239
    Age: 19
    School: Kansas State
    The skinny: The Heat have given up hope that somehow Rose will fall to them at No. 2. They've been working the phones for the past few days trying to find a deal that brings them O.J. Mayo and some future cap relief. (In particular, they're trying to move Mark Blount.) As of Wednesday night, they hadn't found a partner.

    If the Sonics, Clippers or Grizzlies can't step to the table, the Heat could take Beasley and trade him to Minnesota for Mayo and a draft pick. The Wolves own the Heat's 2009 first-round pick, and I'm sure Pat Riley would like it back.

    But if they can't find a trade they like, the Heat will face a tough choice: Whether to grab the guy they want for Riley's system and philosophy (Mayo) or take the superior talent (Beasley).

    My gut says that Riley will come to his senses and take Beasley at No. 2. No offense to Mayo, who is also a great talent, but Beasley is the right pick for Miami.

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    Minnesota

    O.J. Mayo
    Position: SG
    Height: 6-4
    Weight: 200
    Age: 20
    School: USC
    The skinny: The Wolves remain the most difficult team to peg right now.

    They continue to cross their fingers that Beasley falls to them here directly or by trade. If he doesn't, they have some difficult decisions to make.

    Mayo has the most talent of any player remaining on the board, but he doesn't fill a need -- the Wolves are loaded with young perimeter players.

    It sounds like GM Kevin McHale is in love with Kevin Love, but the Wolves think No. 3 is a little high for Love. So do they try to trade down to get him while picking up another asset? If they do, they risk another team might take Love, such as Memphis. But the Grizzlies appear to be leaning toward Eric Gordon at No. 5.

    If he slips past No. 5, the Wolves could make a deal with the Knicks or Clippers for a player and some cap relief or a future first-round pick.

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    Seattle

    Brook Lopez
    Position: C
    Height: 7-0
    Weight: 258
    Age: 20
    School: Stanford
    The skinny: Seattle GM Sam Presti is notoriously tough to read, but sources say it appears that Brook Lopez, Russell Westbrook and Eric Gordon are in the mix for the Sonics.

    Seattle has been talking to other teams about moving down a few spots, with an eye toward drafting one of those three. But with the Knicks' strong interest in Westbrook and Gordon at No. 6 and the Clippers looking at Westbrook, Gordon and Lopez at No. 7, the Sonics could lose out on the guy they really want. So they might just end up keeping their pick.

    I think Presti's heart is with Westbrook, but his head will tell him to take Lopez. With recent lottery picks Robert Swift and Mouhamed Sene looking like busts so far, the Sonics have a huge hole in the middle. The Sonics have discussed trading this pick to the Clippers and moving down to draft at No. 7. But as of now, those discussions appear to be dead.

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    Memphis

    Kevin Love
    Position: PF
    Height: 6-10
    Weight: 255
    Age: 19
    School: UCLA
    The skinny: The Grizzlies also have been talking trades with a number of teams. Today the talk has centered on a deal with the Nets that would send the No. 5 pick to New Jersey for the No. 10 and a future first-rounder.

    If the Nets get the pick, I believe they'll select Kevin Love, though Russell Westbrook also would be in the conversation.

    The Blazers are also trying to move up to get this pick. They appear to be targeting Love or Westbrook. The Knicks are still trying to find a deal that works here, too, though it looks unlikely right now.

    If the Grizzlies keep the pick, they'll likely choose between Love and Gallinari. Last night we heard that Gordon was in the lead, but with the Clippers moving up, he'll likely be gone. However, Love was always strongly in consideration here as well. He's a great fit in Memphis if they keep the pick.

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    New York

    Danilo Gallinari
    Position: SF
    Height: 6-9
    Weight: 212
    Age: 19
    Country: Italy
    The skinny: OK, we've come full circle.

    We had Danilo Gallinari going to the Knicks in our first mock draft, but dropped him when a Suns source said that Knicks coach Mike D'Antoni wasn't a big fan. Apparently Gallinari's workout, combined with some research by the Knicks, has changed that opinion. Gallinari has worked out well everywhere, and it sounds like the Knicks are comfortable with him here.

    Russell Westbrook is also a strong possibility if he is on the board. Ditto for Eric Gordon. Joe Alexander is the dark horse -- the Knicks' brass watched him work out for a second time and really likes him.

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    L.A. Clippers

    Eric Gordon
    Position: SG
    Height: 6-3
    Weight: 222
    Age: 19
    School: Indiana
    The skinny: Gordon is one of the two guys whom the Clippers covet here. He's a great scorer and should add some real punch to their backcourt.

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    Milwaukee

    Russell Westbrook
    Position: PG
    Height: 6-3
    Weight: 192
    Age: 19
    School: UCLA
    The skinny: The Bucks had been leaning strongly toward Joe Alexander, but with Richard Jefferson arriving, look for them to go with a guard. Westbrook is such a dynamic backcourt player I think he'd be a great fit in the Bucks' backcourt. Alexander is still a possibility, and so is D.J. Augustin, but right now it looks like Westbrook.

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    Charlotte

    Anthony Randolph
    Position: PF
    Height: 6-10
    Weight: 197
    Age: 18
    School: LSU
    The skinny: If the draft plays out this way, Charlotte is going to be upset. They had targeted Westbrook, Love and Lopez. None of the three looks to be here.

    The dark horse here is Anthony Randolph, who is very high on Charlotte's board, according to sources.

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    New Jersey

    Joe Alexander
    Position: SF
    Height: 6-8
    Weight: 220
    Age: 21
    School: West Virginia
    The skinny: The Nets already made one big deal today, getting Yi Jianlian and Bobby Simmons. Will they make another? Probably not. They have been talking to the Grizzlies about a deal. However, if the above scenario plays out, there will be a guy on the board that they would love.

    Alexander, paired with Jianlian, would give the Nets two athletic young forwards to run with Devin Harris.

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    Indiana

    Brandon Rush
    Position: SG
    Height: 6-7
    Weight: 205
    Age: 22
    School: Kansas
    The skinny: The Pacers may very well go big here, with Kosta Koufos and Darrell Arthur as the targets. But chances are there will be a big man available when they draft at No. 17.

    Rush won't be there at 17, though, and he would be a great fit in the backcourt with T.J. Ford. Rush could be the next Joe Johnson.

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    Sacramento

    Jerryd Bayless
    Position: PG
    Height: 6-3
    Weight: 204
    Age: 19
    School: Arizona
    The skinny: Sacramento will go nuts with excitement if Bayless is still on the board here. With Beno Udrih expected to sign elsewhere, the Kings need a point guard in the worst way and would be thrilled if Bayless or Augustin were to fall to them. Bayless could go as high as No. 4, but he could also slide this far.

    Another option for the Kings is Roy Hibbert. He wouldn't be an upside pick, but he could step in right away and contribute. The Kings also are big fans of Donte' Greene.

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    Portland

    D.J. Augustin
    Position: PG
    Height: 6-0
    Weight: 172
    Age: 20
    School: Texas
    The skinny: It seems unlikely the Blazers will actually keep this pick. They are loaded with young players and have a history of draft-day activity on the trade market.

    As noted above, the Blazers are big fans of Augustin and would be thrilled if he slipped to them here.

    Also, the team has been eyeing Joe Alexander and Russell Westbrook and hopes to move up to get one of them -- but so far, the the Blazers haven't found the right deal.

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    Golden State

    Kosta Koufos
    Position: C
    Height: 7-1
    Weight: 265
    Age: 19
    School: Ohio State
    The skinny: Chris Mullin once fell in love with Troy Murphy. He can fall in love again with Koufos here, a sharp-shooting big man who's a pretty good athlete. This pick could also be Donte' Greene or Jason Thompson.

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    Phoenix
    (via Atlanta)

    Donte' Greene
    Position: SF
    Height: 6-9
    Weight: 221
    Age: 20
    School: Syracuse
    The skinny: The Suns would like to see Rush on the board. But if he's not, they'll go with the best small forward available. Greene isn't ready to contribute, but he does have some Rashard Lewis-type upside.

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    Philadelphia

    Darrell Arthur
    Position: PF
    Height: 6-9
    Weight: 216
    Age: 20
    School: Kansas
    The skinny: We were hearing DeAndre Jordan's name last night, but a new name has emerged this morning -- that of Arthur. He's actually a great fit in the up-tempo style that Philly likes to run and may be one of the more underrated players in the draft. Philly is looking at several bigs here, but as of this afternoon, it looks like Arthur's the guy.

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    Indiana (via Toronto)

    Roy Hibbert
    Position: C
    Height: 7-2
    Weight: 275
    Age: 21
    School: Georgetown
    The skinny: If the Pacers go with a guard at No. 11, they'll try to land a big at No. 17. If Koufos and Arthur are off the board, the Pacers will go with either Roy Hibbert or Robin Lopez.

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    Washington

    Robin Lopez
    Position: C
    Height: 7-0
    Weight: 245
    Age: 20
    School: Stanford
    The skinny: The Wizards seem content to trade their pick. They talked earlier in the day about a deal with the Rockets, but that now looks dead. The Knicks, who like Mario Chalmers, are another team that might make a move for this pick.

    If the Wizards keep the pick, they'll probably go with the best big guy available, Robin Lopez.

    A dark horse here is Ryan Anderson.

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    Cleveland

    Mario Chalmers
    Position: PG
    Height: 6-2
    Weight: 170
    Age: 22
    School: Kansas
    The skinny: The Cavs are hoping to land a big man. But if all of their best options are off the board at No. 19, look for them to address their point guard needs with Chalmers. He's not the flashiest guy in the draft, but his shooting ability and defensive toughness will be welcome in Cleveland.

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    Charlotte (via Denver)

    Alexis Ajinca
    Position: C
    Height: 7-1
    Weight: 240
    Age: 20
    Country: France
    The skinny: Larry Brown wants Roy Hibbert here. But if he's gone, he'll have to decide between an experienced player like Thompson and a young guy like Alexis Ajinca. Considering Ajinca's great workouts in Charlotte, I'm leaning toward Ajinca.

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    New Jersey
    (via Dallas)

    J.J. Hickson
    Position: PF
    Height: 6-9
    Weight: 240
    Age: 19
    School: NC State
    The skinny: If the Nets grab a skinny project with their first pick, they might look to add some muscle with their second pick. Hickson is one of the more NBA-ready guys in the draft. Cal's Ryan Anderson is also a possibility here.

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    Orlando

    Courtney Lee
    Position: SG
    Height: 6-5
    Weight: 200
    Age: 22
    School: Western Kentucky
    The skinny: The Magic need a 2 guard and like Courtney Lee. But they are also very thin up front and could use big bodies to help out in the paint. I hear the draft room is split between Lee and Marreese Speights. At the end of the day, I think they'll go with Lee.

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    Utah

    DeAndre Jordan
    Position: C
    Height: 6-11
    Weight: 250
    Age: 20
    School: Texas A&M
    The skinny: The big man from Texas A&M is a project, but he has too much talent to pass on here. He may be a bust, but at No. 23, you've got to take a chance.

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    Seattle
    (via Phoenix)

    JaVale McGee
    Position: PF
    Height: 7-0
    Weight: 241
    Age: 20
    School: Nevada
    The skinny: McGee has tremendous upside. He can run the floor and is pretty skilled. He just needs to get much, much stronger.

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    Houston

    Marreese Speights
    Position: C
    Height: 6-10
    Weight: 245
    Age: 19
    School: Florida
    The skinny: Speights has too much talent to slip any further in the draft than this.

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    San Antonio

    Nicolas Batum
    Position: SF
    Height: 6-8
    Weight: 210
    Age: 19
    Country: France
    The skinny: Batum worked out with the Spurs on Wednesday, then disappeared off the grid. His medical reports never came out. His agent didn't return calls. I think the Spurs may have wrapped him up.

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    Portland

    Ante Tomic
    Position: C
    Height: 7-2
    Weight: 237
    Age: 21
    Country: Croatia
    The skinny: The Blazers will go international here. They've been eyeing Serge Ibaka and Nicolas Batum. But Batum is likely going higher. Ibaka is on the verge of signing a big deal in Spain.

    Tomic looks like the safe bet here. The Blazers like him, and he wants to come to the NBA someday.

    J.J. Hickson is also in the mix here.

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    Memphis

    Ryan Anderson
    Position: F
    Height: 6-10
    Weight: 225
    Age: 20
    College: Cal
    The skinny: The Grizzlies are trying to move this pick, but if they can't move the pick, look for them to take a flier on Anderson, a sweet shooting forward in the Troy Murphy mode.

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    Detroit

    Jason Thompson
    Position: PF
    Height: 6-11
    Weight: 250
    Age: 21
    School: Rider
    The skinny: Thompson could go as high as No. 14. He'll also get looks from several teams throughout the first round. But there's no way he'll slip past Detroit at No. 29. He's exactly what the Pistons are looking for -- a skilled big man who can rebound and defend.

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    Boston

    Chris Douglas-Roberts
    Position: SF
    Height: 6-6
    Weight: 195
    Age: 21
    School:Memphis
    The skinny: Of Boston's big three, Ray Allen looks like the one who could use the most help. Chris Douglas-Roberts can step in from day one and become an important player off the bench. His ability to shoot and score would be a big help.
    "A man with no belly has no appetite for life."

    - Salman Rushdie

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    • #3
      Re: What was Chad Ford saying last year about us and the draft?

      That's his last mock draft, which is surprisingly accurate. If you go back to version 5.0, which is equivalent to his current one, it's much less so. If you click the link in the post, you can read through all his archived stuff from last year.
      "A man with no belly has no appetite for life."

      - Salman Rushdie

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      • #4
        Re: What was Chad Ford saying last year about us and the draft?

        Wow. So he had us totally pegged by the end. Rush and Hibbert, except that trading down meant we picked up Jack and McBob in addition.
        This space for rent.

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        • #5
          Re: What was Chad Ford saying last year about us and the draft?

          So basically I should pay attention to it when I'm at the draft party and looking on my phone?

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          • #6
            Re: What was Chad Ford saying last year about us and the draft?

            I would say "yes" to that, Hicks. But, maybe it would be better to see how close he has been the past few years instead of just the past draft?
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            • #7
              Re: What was Chad Ford saying last year about us and the draft?

              Iam Thomsen's mock was the most accurate last year if I'm remembering correctly. He was scary good. His current mock is a little sloppy though. Maybe he will improve it when we get closer.

              http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ft3/index.html

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                Re: What was Chad Ford saying last year about us and the draft?

                Originally posted by Hicks View Post
                Does anyone have access to year-old articles about who he thought we'd be interested in and who we might take as of a few days before the 2008 draft?

                I thought it might be interesting to look back in an attempt to see how close/far off he is about us this year.

                I've heard he finally gets it close at the 11th hour, but what about like now, when it's still 4 days away?
                His version 6.0 was published on Monday, June 23...so it's as close as I could get:

                CHAD FORD'S MOCK DRAFT
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                Chicago


                Derrick Rose
                Position: PG
                Height: 6-3
                Weight: 196
                Age: 19
                School: Memphis

                The skinny: Rose and Beasley finally got their close-ups in Chicago last week, and sources say both players worked out well.

                And as you can tell from their news conferences, neither pretended to be something he's not. Rose was humble and talked about leadership. Beasley was brash and funny and talked about scoring.

                The Bulls continue to maintain that they haven't made up their minds about who they're drafting. But I'd be shocked, at this point, if it isn't Rose. The team needs leadership, defense and a player who's willing to put his team before himself -- that guy is Rose. Beasley may score more and win more individual awards. But ultimately, I think the Bulls will be more comfortable with the belief that Rose can take the franchise where they want it to go.

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                Miami


                Michael Beasley
                Position: PF
                Height: 6-8
                Weight: 239
                Age: 19
                School: Kansas State

                The skinny: The Heat continue to wait and hope that somehow Rose falls to them at No. 2. Rose opted against working out in Miami, but did invite Heat brass to Los Angeles for a private workout -- though Heat team president Pat Riley didn't show up.

                The Heat were scheduled to be in Chicago this weekend to watch Mayo again, but they skipped the workout to see Rose.

                We continue to hear that the Heat will probably trade the No. 2 pick if Rose is off the board. The latest talk has the Sonics and Heat discussing a swap that would send the No. 2 pick and Mark Blount to Seattle for Chris Wilcox and the No. 4 pick. The move would give the Heat a huge amount of cap space in the summer of 2009. (Wilcox is in the last year of his contract, while Blount has two years and $16 million remaining.)

                At No. 4, if Mayo were off the board, the Heat would have their choice of Jerryd Bayless, Russell Westbrook or Brook Lopez. All three would fit a need for them.

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                Minnesota


                O.J. Mayo
                Position: SG
                Height: 6-4
                Weight: 200
                Age: 20
                School: USC

                The skinny: The Wolves remain the most difficult team to peg right now.

                As of Sunday, the word out of Minnesota was that the team will draft Mayo if Beasley is off the board. Though Mayo doesn't fit a need, he would be considered the best player available, and that appears to be swaying Minnesota in his direction.

                At the same time, a lot of trade talk surrounds this pick. The Knicks, Clippers, Bucks and Trail Blazers all have tried to maneuver to get this pick. The Bucks may have the best chance of succeeding if they offer Yi Jianlian or Charlie Villanueva as part of a package.

                If the Wolves trade down, their target seems to be Lopez or UCLA's Kevin Love.

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                Seattle



                Russell Westbrook
                Position: PG
                Height: 6-3
                Weight: 192
                Age: 19
                School: UCLA

                The skinny: We've had Bayless at No. 4 since our first mock draft, but we've gathered enough information over the weekend to suggest that the Sonics may be leaning in another direction.

                GM Sam Presti is notoriously tough to read, but sources say it appears that Westbrook, Lopez and Indiana's Eric Gordon are strongly in the mix at No. 4.

                The Sonics have been talking to other teams about moving down a few spots with an eye toward drafting Westbrook, Gordon or Lopez. But with the Knicks' strong interest in Westbrook and Gordon at No. 6 and the Clippers looking at Westbrook, Gordon and Lopez at No. 7, the guy they want may not be there.

                So why Westbrook? Two reasons: upside and defense. The Sonics have time to let players develop and Westbrook could turn into a better shooting version of Rajon Rondo down the road.

                The Sonics also want Beasley and are trying to work out a deal with the Heat to get up to No. 2, as noted above. Beasley and Kevin Durant are best friends and the Sonics think a pairing of the two scorers would be devastating.

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                Memphis


                Eric Gordon
                Position: SG
                Height: 6-3
                Weight: 222
                Age: 19
                School: Indiana

                The skinny: For weeks we've been hearing that the Grizzlies are high on Love. He fits a need, is one of the more NBA-ready players in the draft and would be popular in Memphis.

                He still could be the pick. But there's a growing chorus saying that the Grizzlies are looking strongly at Gordon -- an athletic, sweet-shooting 2-guard -- with the pick.

                Even stronger are rumors that the Grizzlies are talking to a number of teams, including the Knicks, Blazers and Suns, about deals that would send the No. 5 pick to whomever is willing to take Brian Cardinal's awful contract (two years, $13 million left). The latest buzz has the Knicks talking to Memphis about a deal that would send David Lee and the expiring contract of Malik Rose to Memphis for No. 5 and Cardinal.

                In other words, it sounds like GM Chris Wallace is, once again, being pushed by ownership to cut payroll.

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                New York


                Danilo Gallinari
                Position: SF
                Height: 6-9
                Weight: 212
                Age: 19
                Country: Italy

                The skinny: OK, we've come full circle.

                We had Danilo Gallinari going to the Knicks in our first mock draft, but dropped him when a Suns source said that Knicks coach Mike D'Antoni wasn't a big fan. Apparently Gallinari's workout, combined with some research, has changed that opinion. Gallinari has worked out well everywhere and it sounds like the Knicks are comfortable with him here.

                Russell Westbrook is also a strong possibility if he is on the board. Ditto for Jerryd Bayless. Joe Alexander is the dark horse -- the Knicks' brass watched him work out for a second time on Friday.

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                L.A. Clippers


                Jerryd Bayless
                Position: PG
                Height: 6-3
                Weight: 204
                Age: 19
                School: Arizona

                The skinny: The Clippers have been trying to move up in the draft to get Mayo or Bayless. In this scenario, they have Bayless drop into their lap.

                The Clippers are in desperate need of guards, and Mayo, Bayless, Westbrook and Gordon appear to be atop their board. Bayless' shooting and scoring ability would be a welcome addition to the Clippers, even as many scouts question whether he has what it takes to be a full-time point guard in the pros.

                The other potential scenario for the Clippers is a trade. They've been talking to the Suns about a deal that would send Corey Maggette and No. 7 to Phoenix for Leandro Barbosa and No. 15.

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                Milwaukee


                Joe Alexander
                Position: SF
                Height: 6-8
                Weight: 220
                Age: 21
                School: West Virginia

                The skinny: Alexander is a high-energy forward who impressed GM John Hammond and new coach Scott Skiles with his toughness and grit. That's exactly what the Bucks are going for right now. Hammond wants to change the culture in Milwaukee, and Alexander has that capability. He also fits a need. The Bucks will be shopping Bobby Simmons (along with just about everyone else) hard this summer.

                It sounds like Anthony Randolph is the other player the Bucks are looking at closely here. However, Randolph is further away than Alexander right now. Alexander is still a work in progress too, but if he figures things out, he has a chance to be really special.

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                Charlotte



                Kevin Love
                Position: PF
                Height: 6-10
                Weight: 255
                Age: 19
                School: UCLA

                The skinny: If the draft plays out this way, Charlotte will have a very difficult decision to make. The Bobcats have been looking for a big man so they can slide Emeka Okafor over to the 4 full-time, and Brook Lopez would be a great complement to Okafor up front.

                But a lot of teams are questioning Lopez's upside. Teams love size, but they don't see Lopez as a star NBA player. That's where Love comes in. He's a Larry Brown type of player -- he knows how to "play the right way." Love would bring toughness, rebounding, basketball IQ and the ability to step in and contribute right now. While he doesn't have ideal size, he knows his way around the basket.

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                New Jersey


                Brook Lopez
                Position: C
                Height: 7-0
                Weight: 258
                Age: 20
                School: Stanford

                The skinny: This is a dream scenario for the Nets if it happens. Lopez may have been projected too high at No. 3, but he would be a steal at this point in the draft. The Nets have been looking for a strong, scoring big man for years and Lopez really fits the bill.

                If he's not here, other names to listen for are Danilo Gallinari (if available) and Robin Lopez, Brook's brother.

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                Indiana


                D.J. Augustin
                Position: PG
                Height: 6-0
                Weight: 172
                Age: 20
                School: Texas

                The skinny: The Pacers have been eyeing two point guards -- D.J. Augustin and Russell Westbrook -- for a while.

                Westbrook looks like he'll be long gone. He canceled his workout with the Pacers last week and hasn't rescheduled. That leaves Augustin, who's an excellent fallback option for the Pacers. Augustin is a better floor leader than Westbrook and a better perimeter shooter, and he's more ready to step in and play right away. He should be an excellent fit for Indiana.

                If Augustin and Westbrook are gone, the Pacers could reach for the next-best point guard on the board: Mario Chalmers. No. 11 may seem a little high for him, but he has been generating serious buzz in workouts.

                The Pacers might also go in another direction if they could move Jermaine O'Neal for a veteran point guard such as T.J. Ford or Kirk Hinrich. In that case, Kosta Koufos or a similar prospect could be the choice.

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                Sacramento


                Mario Chalmers
                Position: PG
                Height: 6-2
                Weight: 170
                Age: 22
                School: Kansas

                The skinny: The Kings might have a tough choice here: Go for an upside pick in Anthony Randolph or fill a need at the point in Chalmers.

                Randolph has scared away a lot of teams with his lack of strength and a skill set that looks several years away from being fully NBA-ready.

                Chalmers, on the other hand, is seen as one of the most NBA-ready players in the draft. He's an excellent shooter and defender who knows how to get to the basket. His workouts have been so positive that he's no longer a reach here at No. 12.

                Another option for the Kings is Roy Hibbert. Like Chalmers, Hibbert wouldn't be an upside pick. But he would be able to step in right away and contribute.

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                Portland


                Alexis Ajinca
                Position: C
                Height: 7-1
                Weight: 240
                Age: 20
                Country: France

                The skinny: It seems unlikely the Blazers will actually keep this pick. They are loaded with young players and have a history of draft day activity on the trade market.

                GM Kevin Pritchard is already burning up the phone lines. I think either he'll package some of his young players with this pick and move up in the draft to get a solid prospect or he'll trade the pick for a veteran. The Blazers have had talks with the Nets about Richard Jefferson, the Suns about Leandro Barbosa and the Grizzlies about a deal that would send the No. 13 pick and the expiring contract of Raef LaFrentz to Memphis for No. 5, Brian Cardinal and Jason Collins.

                In case they do keep the pick, the Blazers have been eyeing Joe Alexander and Russell Westbrook. The Blazers would like to move up to get one or both players, but so far they haven't found the right deal. For the past several weeks we've had Brandon Rush in this spot. But the more I talk to the Blazers, the more I think they may go for a bigger splash. Ajinca is a long, athletic big man who is pretty skilled. He doesn't fill a need for the Blazers, but Pritchard loves to gather assets.

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                Golden State


                Kosta Koufos
                Position: C
                Height: 7-1
                Weight: 265
                Age: 19
                School: Ohio State

                The skinny: By all accounts, Koufos has been excellent in workouts and could have become a top-five pick had he waited until 2009. Golden State has taken several big men in recent drafts, but it will probably be drafting for talent, not need -- and Koufos' combination of size and offensive skill should be a nice complement to Biedrins' defensive and rebounding prowess.

                Rider's Jason Thompson and Syracuse's Donte Greene are other possibilities with this pick.

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                Phoenix
                (via Atlanta)


                Brandon Rush
                Position: SG

                Height: 6-7
                Weight: 205
                Age: 22
                School: Kansas

                The skinny: The Suns have been eyeing Rush, a college veteran who can step in and play the 2 and the 3. Rush can hit open shots, play defense and stay out of the way of the Suns' stars.

                Other candidates: The Suns have major interest in Mario Chalmers and Robin Lopez, and Anthony Randolph would be very tough to pass up.

                But the future is now in Phoenix, and Rush seems like the guy.

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                Philadelphia



                Anthony Randolph
                Position: PF
                Height: 6-10
                Weight: 197
                Age: 18
                School: LSU

                The skinny: At some point, Randolph can drop no further.

                He hasn't been great in workouts, needs to add a lot of strength and appears to be a few years away from making an impact.

                But he has length, athleticism and tremendous upside, and the Sixers, a team on the rise, can afford to wait.

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                Toronto


                Robin Lopez
                Position: C
                Height: 7-0
                Weight: 245
                Age: 20
                School: Stanford

                The skinny: The Raptors really need size, toughness and rebounding. While Lopez doesn't project as a great scorer in the pros, he's a big, rugged player who could solidify the Raptors' front line. Alexis Ajinca and Donte Greene are possibilities here.

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                Washington


                Darrell Arthur
                Position: PF
                Height: 6-9
                Weight: 216
                Age: 20
                School: Kansas

                The skinny: The Wizards could lose free agent Antawn Jamison to free agency this summer. In case they do, they might want Arthur, a player who, in a lot of ways, is Jamison's clone -- a face-up 4 who runs the floor and can score in a variety of ways.

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                Cleveland


                Roy Hibbert

                Position: C
                Height: 7-2
                Weight: 275
                Age: 21
                School: Georgetown

                The skinny: The Cavs need help inside and are hoping that Koufos falls to them. If he doesn't, they'll have a tough choice to make. Of the players projected to be available, Hibbert is the most ready to step in and help right away.

                Mario Chalmers is another possibility here, if available.

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                Denver



                Jason Thompson
                Position: PF
                Height: 6-11
                Weight: 250
                Age: 21
                School: Rider

                The skinny: The big man from Rider may not be flashy, but he put up big numbers for four years and would give the Nuggets something they need: a consistent scoring presence in the paint.

                Thompson could end up moving ahead of a number of bigs with more upside because more teams are valuing production over potential this year.

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                New Jersey
                (via Dallas)


                J.J. Hickson
                Position: PF
                Height: 6-9
                Weight: 240
                Age: 19
                School: NC State

                The skinny: If the Nets grab a center with their first pick, they might look to add even more toughness in the paint with their second pick. J.J. Hickson is built like a tank and can be a tough scorer both inside and outside. He's got great upside.

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                Orlando


                Marreese Speights
                Position: C
                Height: 6-10
                Weight: 245
                Age: 19
                School: Florida

                The skinny: The Magic need a 2-guard and like Courtney Lee. But they are also very thin up front and could use big bodies to help out in the paint. Marreese Speights has too much talent to slip any further in the draft than this.

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                Utah


                JaVale McGee
                Position: PF
                Height: 7-0
                Weight: 241
                Age: 20
                School: Nevada

                The skinny: This would be a disappointing drop for JaVale McGee. Though he has enormous upside, he's struggled in workouts, and teams think he's a project that could take a few years to develop. The Jazz are always on the lookout for size and upside, so this one seems like an easy call if McGee lasts this long.

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                Seattle
                (via Phoenix)


                Serge Ibaka
                Position: PF
                Height: 6-10
                Weight: 220
                Age: 18
                Country: Congo

                The skinny: Expect Seattle GM Sam Presti to use a trick or two from his days in San Antonio and look internationally with his second pick. Serge Ibaka has the talent to be a potential lottery pick someday, but he's still very raw. The Sonics can leave him over in Spain and reap the benefits down the road.

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                Houston


                Donte' Greene
                Position: SF
                Height: 6-9
                Weight: 221
                Age: 20
                School: Syracuse

                The skinny: This seems like an unbelievable fall for a player with as much upside as Donte' Greene. Indeed, teams like the Kings and Warriors will look at him in the lottery, and likewise for the Raptors in the mid-first round. But if he slips past them, he could be on a free fall. He's a great shooter with upside, but he's not ready yet.

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                San Antonio


                Ante Tomic
                Position: C
                Height: 7-2
                Weight: 237
                Age: 21
                Country: Croatia

                The skinny: The Spurs got burned by Tiago Splitter last year, but it won't stop them from grabbing Tomic here. His combination of skills reminds some of a young Pau Gasol. He needs to get stronger and continue developing, but this would be a value pick for them. And the good news is that in Croatia, they don't pay nearly as much as Spain.

                The Spurs are also trying to move up into the mid first round for a shot at Robin Lopez.

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                New Orleans


                Chris Douglas-Roberts
                Position: SG
                Height: 6-6
                Weight: 195
                Age: 21
                School: Memphis

                The skinny: Chris Douglas-Roberts would be a great fit for the Hornets if he's still on the board. He is a big-time scorer who excels at slashing to the basket. He also is an excellent midrange shooter. He should be able to step in and contribute right away.

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                Memphis


                DeAndre Jordan
                Position: C
                Height: 6-11
                Weight: 250
                Age: 20
                School: Texas A&M

                The skinny: DeAndre Jordan has too much talent to pass up here. The Grizzlies like Courtney Lee as well, but if they land Eric Gordon at No. 5, they can to go big here at No. 29. Jordan is a major project, but he shouldn't slip any further than this.

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                Detroit


                Bill Walker
                Position: SF
                Height: 6-6
                Weight: 235
                Age: 20
                School:Kansas State

                The skinny: The Pistons are looking for size in the middle. They really don't have anyone on their roster who technically qualifies as a center. However if all of the bigs are gone, look for them to take a chance on Walker. If he's healthy, he's a steal here. Joe Dumars is an opportunist. He'll take what he can get at No. 29.

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                Boston


                Courtney Lee
                Position: SG
                Height: 6-5
                Weight: 200
                Age: 22
                School: Western Kentucky

                The skinny: Of Boston's big three, Ray Allen looks like the one who could use the most help. Courtney Lee can step in from day one and become an important player off the bench. His ability to shoot and score would be a big help.
                (Sorry for the crappy format...I'm too lazy to fix it.)

                Keep in mind that this would have been before the JO deal was confirmed.
                Last edited by count55; 06-21-2009, 05:14 PM.

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                  Re: What was Chad Ford saying last year about us and the draft?

                  So it sounds like Ford won't get it right until 45 minutes until the draft? haha

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                    Re: What was Chad Ford saying last year about us and the draft?

                    Originally posted by Placebo View Post
                    Iam Thomsen's mock was the most accurate last year if I'm remembering correctly. He was scary good. His current mock is a little sloppy though. Maybe he will improve it when we get closer.

                    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ft3/index.html
                    I checked out Thomsen's last mock before last year's draft and it didn't look accurate at all.

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                    • #11
                      Re: What was Chad Ford saying last year about us and the draft?

                      I think when it gets down to the day of the draft, Chad Ford's information is usually the best. He's not always right (no one ever is), but like him or not, he is as plugged in as anyone.

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                        Re: What was Chad Ford saying last year about us and the draft?

                        Originally posted by Shade View Post
                        I checked out Thomsen's last mock before last year's draft and it didn't look accurate at all.
                        He won the mock draft competition last year. Here is the link:
                        http://haveballs.net/nba-mock-draft-competition

                        The competition was based on two criteria. The first was the amount of picks you got 100 percent correct in the draft. If you got Derrick Rose as the number one pick, you get a point. It is that simple.

                        Now the complicated part. I also did a picks away competition. If you had Derrick Rose going second, you got one point (because he was picked one pick away). If you had Kevin Love going two, you got three points. I hope that was a good enough explanation.

                        I scored the mocks based on how well they did compared to the others in those two competitions and then did the same with the amount of second round picks in their mock drafts, but weighted it less.

                        The winner of the Mock Draft Competition was: Ian Thomsen of Sports Illustrated.
                        Here is another methodology and the result is same: Thomsen is the winner.

                        http://www.sportsmedia.section30.com/?cat=6

                        WINNERS

                        Sports Illustratedís Ian Thomsen claimed the overall top spot after ranking 4th in the correct pick portion of the analysis and topping the pick difference analysis.
                        Finally, the link for his latest mock before last years' draft:
                        http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...aft/index.html

                        It was a quite unusual mock the time. (Speights @30, Asik@27, etc...) But overall he was the winner. For example he saw Greene falling all the way to the 24th spot. He was a lottery lock in most mock drafts. Same with Arthur. He was projected as a lottery lock, Thomsen had him go @28 to the Memphis which is where he ended up. CDR is another example. He had him @29 which was very unusual but he fell to the 2nd round. Overall very unorthodox but very solid mock.

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                          Re: What was Chad Ford saying last year about us and the draft?

                          Let's hope Thomsen is right and we get Jennings then.

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