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  • Re: Jim O'Brien is new head coach

    Originally posted by pwee31 View Post
    I like when asked about his style how O"Brien said he's a disciplinarian, but NOT when it comes to tempo. If the team needs to run against the Suns they'll do so, but we'll also be able to slow it down with a team that walks it up.

    And the TEAM being able to defend, with individuals being held accountable for there defense was also a plus!

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    • Re: Jim O'Brien is new head coach

      Originally posted by NuffSaid View Post
      Who's Mr. Harter?
      Dick Harter.

      http://www.nba.com/coachfile/dick_harter/index.html


      Dick Harter
      College - Pennsylvania '53
      Dick Harter, regarded as one of the top defensive minds in basketball, joined the Sixers coaching staff on May 5, 2004. Harter has enjoyed a long and successful history in the game, having worked for over 50 seasons as both a head coach and as an assistant under some of the game’s all-time greats.


      Harter began his NBA coaching career under Chuck Daly with the Detroit Pistons (1983-86), as the club recorded three-consecutive winning seasons for the first time in franchise history. He left Detroit followint the 1985-86 season to serve as an assistant under Jack Ramsay at Indiana (1986-88). In 1988, he became the head coach of the Charlotte Hornets (1988-90) for Charlotte’s inaugural season.

      Harter has also worked on the staffs of Pat Riley with the New York Knicks (1991-94), P.J. Carlesimo in Portland (1994-97), Larry Bird with the Indiana Pacers (1997-2000) and Jim O’Brien in Boston (2001-04).

      While serving as an assistant for Bird in Indiana, the Pacers collected two Central Division titles and made one appearance in the NBA Finals. Bird credited Harter and his input as one of the reasons the team enjoyed so much success in that stretch, as well as a major factor in his winning the NBA’s Coach of the Year Award in 1998.

      Harter boasts a collegiate head-coaching record of 295-196 (.601) mark having served as a head coach in the college ranks for 18 seasons. Harter’s first stint as a head coach came during the 1965-66 season when he served as the head coach at Rider University (N.J.) where he guided the Broncs to a 16-9 record. After one season at Rider, he returned to his alma mater, the University of Pennsylvania, where he replaced Jack McCloskey as head coach of the Quakers. Harter led the Quakers to an 88-44 (.667) record from 1966-71, including back-to-back Ivy League Championships and NCAA Tournament appearances (1970, 1971). His greatest year came in 1970-71, when the Quakers finished the season 28-1, eventually losing to Villanova in the NCAA Tournament East Region Finals. That year, UPenn finished third in both the AP and UPI polls.

      Following his stint with the Quakers, Harter served as the head coach at the University of Oregon, leading the Ducks to a 112-82 (.577) record over seven seasons (1971-78). His tenure at Oregon was highlighted by his “Kamikaze Kids” ending UCLA's 98-game home winning streak at Pauley Pavilion. He later served as head coach at Penn State (1978-83), compiling a 79-61 (.564) mark.

      Harter is a member of the Big Five Hall of Fame. He is also a member of both the University of Pennsylvania Hall of Fame and the University of Oregon Hall of Fame. Most recently, he was inducted into the State of Pennsylvania Hall of Fame (Pottstown Chapter) in October 2002.

      Much like O'Brien, Harter’s intense interest and knowledge of the game stems from his involvement in Philadelphia basketball. After graduating from the University of Pennsylvania (’53), Harter served for two years in the United States Marine Corp. as a first lieutenant and then coached for two years at the high school level. He accepted an assistant coaching position at his alma mater under McCloskey, where he remained for seven years (1958-65). Of all the great basketball minds he has worked with, it is McCloskey - who later engineered the great Pistons squads of the 1980s - who Harter calls “the greatest influence” on his basketball life.
      Harter (10/14/30) and his wife, Mari, spend the off-season in Lake Willoughby, Vt.
      Last edited by indyman37; 06-01-2007, 01:30 AM.

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      • Re: Jim O'Brien is new head coach

        Originally posted by pwee31 View Post
        I like when asked about his style how O"Brien said he's a disciplinarian, but NOT when it comes to tempo. If the team needs to run against the Suns they'll do so, but we'll also be able to slow it down with a team that walks it up.
        I dont agree with your intepretation of what he was saying, but if youre right then we will still be trying to match up to other teams instead of enforcing our own style of play on them, and I dont think that works. And anyone who trys to run with the Suns just gets slaughtered.

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        • Re: Jim O'Brien is new head coach

          Originally posted by Jermaniac View Post
          Spewing out what negative stuff? We hired a defensive coach on a team where the players suck on defense. I dont got nothing against Jim O'Brien but this team didnt need a defensive coach.
          I think your thinking is completely backwards - doesn't it make more sense to hire a defensive coach when you have weak defenders - especially someone who coaches team defense.

          Dick Harter is coming to town - that is great news - I honestly didn't think he would

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          • Re: Jim O'Brien is new head coach

            Dick Harter?

            Originally posted by Michael Scott
            That's what she said.
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            • Re: Jim O'Brien is new head coach

              Originally posted by NuffSaid View Post
              Who's Mr. Harter?
              good ol Dick. Was the pacers defensive coach when Bird was the coach back in the day. He is one of the best defensive coaches around.

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              • Re: Jim O'Brien is new head coach

                I will add though that I did like the part where he said that, like Larry, he loves hardnosed basketball. If he manages to get these softies playing some hardnosed b-ball, my opinion of him will quickly improve.

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                • Re: Jim O'Brien is new head coach

                  Originally posted by Mr.ThunderMakeR View Post
                  I dont agree with your intepretation of what he was saying, but if youre right then we will still be trying to match up to other teams instead of enforcing our own style of play on them, and I dont think that works. And anyone who trys to run with the Suns just gets slaughtered.
                  Well that's what I took, sorry if I misunderstood, I thought I had paraphased what he said pretty well.

                  I don't think it's necessarily "matching up" with others. He believes that this team can be flexible and play multiple styles when needed

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                  • Re: Jim O'Brien is new head coach

                    Originally posted by NuffSaid View Post
                    Who's Mr. Harter?
                    He has been a long, long time assistant coach (he was The Hornets first ever head coach) But he was an assistant under Jack ramsey when he was the pacers coach and then he was an assistant under Bird when he was the pacers coach and the fact that Dick Harter was able to get that pacers team 1998-2000 to play good defense is all you really should need to hear. Look at the individual defenders, and they aren't any better than they are now.

                    Also the job Harter did as an assistant with the Celtics in was amazing - another great job of getting poor defenders to buy into team defense.

                    I also would recommend anyone who wants to know more about Harter to read larry Bird's book from 1999. "Bird Watching"

                    I think in 25 years if a book is written about great assistant coaches in the NBA, Dick Harter won't just be one of the alltime greats - the book will likely be named after him and if an award is ever given out for "assistant coach of the year" it will be named the Dick Harter award.

                    Harter is generally considered the best NBA assistant coach over the past 20 years
                    Last edited by Unclebuck; 06-01-2007, 02:33 AM.

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                    • Re: Jim O'Brien is new head coach

                      Originally posted by Unclebuck View Post
                      He has been a long, long time assistant coach (he was The Hornets first ever head coach) But he was an assistant under Jack ramsey when he was the pacers coach and then he was an assistant under Bird when he was the pacers coach and the fact that Dick Harter was able to get that pacers team 1998-2000 to play good defense is all you really should need to hear. Look at the individual defenders, and they aren't any better than they are now.

                      Also the job Harter did as an assistant with the Celtics in was amazing - another great job of getting poor defenders to buy into team defense.

                      I also would recommend anyone who wants to know more about Harter to read larry Bird's book from 1999. "Bird Watching"

                      I think in 25 year if a book is written about great assistant coaches in the NBA Dick Harter won't just be one of the alltime greats - the book will likely be named after him and if an award is ever given out for "assistant coach of the year" it will be named the Dick Harter award.
                      Why hasnt he ever been a head coach? Not trying to knock on him, I am honestly wondering why.

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                      • Re: Jim O'Brien is new head coach

                        Originally posted by indyman37 View Post
                        Dick Harter.

                        http://www.nba.com/coachfile/dick_harter/index.html


                        Dick Harter
                        College - Pennsylvania '53
                        Dick Harter, regarded as one of the top defensive minds in basketball, joined the Sixers coaching staff on May 5, 2004. Harter has enjoyed a long and successful history in the game, having worked for over 50 seasons as both a head coach and as an assistant under some of the game’s all-time greats.


                        Harter began his NBA coaching career under Chuck Daly with the Detroit Pistons (1983-86), as the club recorded three-consecutive winning seasons for the first time in franchise history. He left Detroit followint the 1985-86 season to serve as an assistant under Jack Ramsay at Indiana (1986-88). In 1988, he became the head coach of the Charlotte Hornets (1988-90) for Charlotte’s inaugural season.

                        Harter has also worked on the staffs of Pat Riley with the New York Knicks (1991-94), P.J. Carlesimo in Portland (1994-97), Larry Bird with the Indiana Pacers (1997-2000) and Jim O’Brien in Boston (2001-04).

                        While serving as an assistant for Bird in Indiana, the Pacers collected two Central Division titles and made one appearance in the NBA Finals. Bird credited Harter and his input as one of the reasons the team enjoyed so much success in that stretch, as well as a major factor in his winning the NBA’s Coach of the Year Award in 1998.

                        Harter boasts a collegiate head-coaching record of 295-196 (.601) mark having served as a head coach in the college ranks for 18 seasons. Harter’s first stint as a head coach came during the 1965-66 season when he served as the head coach at Rider University (N.J.) where he guided the Broncs to a 16-9 record. After one season at Rider, he returned to his alma mater, the University of Pennsylvania, where he replaced Jack McCloskey as head coach of the Quakers. Harter led the Quakers to an 88-44 (.667) record from 1966-71, including back-to-back Ivy League Championships and NCAA Tournament appearances (1970, 1971). His greatest year came in 1970-71, when the Quakers finished the season 28-1, eventually losing to Villanova in the NCAA Tournament East Region Finals. That year, UPenn finished third in both the AP and UPI polls.

                        Following his stint with the Quakers, Harter served as the head coach at the University of Oregon, leading the Ducks to a 112-82 (.577) record over seven seasons (1971-78). His tenure at Oregon was highlighted by his “Kamikaze Kids” ending UCLA's 98-game home winning streak at Pauley Pavilion. He later served as head coach at Penn State (1978-83), compiling a 79-61 (.564) mark.

                        Harter is a member of the Big Five Hall of Fame. He is also a member of both the University of Pennsylvania Hall of Fame and the University of Oregon Hall of Fame. Most recently, he was inducted into the State of Pennsylvania Hall of Fame (Pottstown Chapter) in October 2002.

                        Much like O'Brien, Harter’s intense interest and knowledge of the game stems from his involvement in Philadelphia basketball. After graduating from the University of Pennsylvania (’53), Harter served for two years in the United States Marine Corp. as a first lieutenant and then coached for two years at the high school level. He accepted an assistant coaching position at his alma mater under McCloskey, where he remained for seven years (1958-65). Of all the great basketball minds he has worked with, it is McCloskey - who later engineered the great Pistons squads of the 1980s - who Harter calls “the greatest influence” on his basketball life.
                        Harter (10/14/30) and his wife, Mari, spend the off-season in Lake Willoughby, Vt.
                        Cool...at least we have a Defensive coach that can actually teach defense. Let's keep Person on as one of the shooting coaches....is he able to at least help out in that department?
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                        • Re: Jim O'Brien is new head coach

                          Originally posted by Jermaniac View Post
                          Spewing out what negative stuff? We hired a defensive coach on a team where the players suck on defense. I dont got nothing against Jim O'Brien but this team didnt need a defensive coach.
                          Originally posted by NuffSaid View Post
                          That's the first positive thing I've read concering O'Brien's expected hiring. But man! His name comes so far out of left field...

                          Strong on defense, tough on his players, had limited success getting the 76ers back to the post-season...they haven't been back since he was canned...

                          Only 2 head coaching jobs in the NBA. Why does this hiring plus the reported JO trade scare the outta me?

                          EDIT: I stand somewhat corrected. I'd forgotten that O'Brien had coached the Celtics to the ECF back in 2002. Maybe this guy isn't so bad after all despite having coached only 2 NBA teams. Seems he's had success in both endeavors.
                          Jermaniac,

                          You're comment above is a contradition. The Pacers DO need a defensive minded head coach very badly! The fact the O'Brien IS a defensive oriented is probably the only positive he has going for him thus far from my perspective. My initial concerns were O'Brien's limited coaching experience in the NBA, but upon further review, he has coached the Knicks, Celtics and had a brief stint w/the 76ers. (See this article for more on O'Brien's record)

                          The initial shock is still there, but I'm starting to settle down a bit. Seeing the video press conference for myself will help to reassure me things are going in the right direction. But watching how the team performs during training camp and the first 20 games of the regular season thereafter I hope will take care of the rest of my jitters. I'm just not feeling this hiring all that much in light of the JO trade rumors.

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                          • Re: Jim O'Brien is new head coach

                            Originally posted by Mr.ThunderMakeR View Post
                            Why hasnt he ever been a head coach? Not trying to knock on him, I am honestly wondering why.
                            Just a guess, but maybe he is absolutely terrible with offense...

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                            • Re: Jim O'Brien is new head coach

                              Knowing Larry Bird, the only reason O'Brien was hired was to give Dick Harter a job.

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                              • Re: Jim O'Brien is new head coach

                                I dont care what Harter and Obie do, they are not going to make Murphy and Tinsley into good defenders. And if you think Tinsley is getting traded, please tell me who is going to take him?

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