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Below are the rules of Pacers Digest. After you have read them, you will have a very good sense of where we are coming from, what we expect, what we don't want to see, and how we react to things.

Rule #1

Pacers Digest is intended to be a place to discuss basketball without having to deal with the kinds of behaviors or attitudes that distract people from sticking with the discussion of the topics at hand. These unwanted distractions can come in many forms, and admittedly it can sometimes be tricky to pin down each and every kind that can rear its ugly head, but we feel that the following examples and explanations cover at least a good portion of that ground and should at least give people a pretty good idea of the kinds of things we actively discourage:

"Anyone who __________ is a liar / a fool / an idiot / a blind homer / has their head buried in the sand / a blind hater / doesn't know basketball / doesn't watch the games"

"People with intelligence will agree with me when I say that __________"

"Only stupid people think / believe / do ___________"

"I can't wait to hear something from PosterX when he/she sees that **insert a given incident or current event that will have probably upset or disappointed PosterX here**"

"He/she is just delusional"

"This thread is stupid / worthless / embarrassing"

"I'm going to take a moment to point and / laugh at PosterX / GroupOfPeopleY who thought / believed *insert though/belief here*"

"Remember when PosterX said OldCommentY that no longer looks good? "

In general, if a comment goes from purely on topic to something 'ad hominem' (personal jabs, personal shots, attacks, flames, however you want to call it, towards a person, or a group of people, or a given city/state/country of people), those are most likely going to be found intolerable.

We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.

Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.

That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.

A slip up every once and a while is pretty normal, but, again, when it becomes repetitive or excessive, something will be done. Something occasional is probably going to be let go (within reason), but when it starts to become habitual or otherwise a pattern, odds are very good that we will step in.

There's always a small minority that like to push people's buttons and/or test their own boundaries with regards to the administrators, and in the case of someone acting like that, please be aware that this is not a court of law, but a private website run by people who are simply trying to do the right thing as they see it. If we feel that you are a special case that needs to be dealt with in an exceptional way because your behavior isn't explicitly mirroring one of our above examples of what we generally discourage, we can and we will take atypical action to prevent this from continuing if you are not cooperative with us.

Also please be aware that you will not be given a pass simply by claiming that you were 'only joking,' because quite honestly, when someone really is just joking, for one thing most people tend to pick up on the joke, including the person or group that is the target of the joke, and for another thing, in the event where an honest joke gets taken seriously and it upsets or angers someone, the person who is truly 'only joking' will quite commonly go out of his / her way to apologize and will try to mend fences. People who are dishonest about their statements being 'jokes' do not do so, and in turn that becomes a clear sign of what is really going on. It's nothing new.

In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.

Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.

If you see a problem that we haven't addressed, the best and most appropriate course for a forum member to take here is to look over to the left of the post in question. See underneath that poster's name, avatar, and other info, down where there's a little triangle with an exclamation point (!) in it? Click that. That allows you to report the post to the admins so we can definitely notice it and give it a look to see what we feel we should do about it. Beyond that, obviously it's human nature sometimes to want to speak up to the poster in question who has bothered you, but we would ask that you try to refrain from doing so because quite often what happens is two or more posters all start going back and forth about the original offending post, and suddenly the entire thread is off topic or otherwise derailed. So while the urge to police it yourself is understandable, it's best to just report it to us and let us handle it. Thank you!

All of the above is going to be subject to a case by case basis, but generally and broadly speaking, this should give everyone a pretty good idea of how things will typically / most often be handled.

Rule #2

If the actions of an administrator inspire you to make a comment, criticism, or express a concern about it, there is a wrong place and a couple of right places to do so.

The wrong place is to do so in the original thread in which the administrator took action. For example, if a post gets an infraction, or a post gets deleted, or a comment within a larger post gets clipped out, in a thread discussing Paul George, the wrong thing to do is to distract from the discussion of Paul George by adding your off topic thoughts on what the administrator did.

The right places to do so are:

A) Start a thread about the specific incident you want to talk about on the Feedback board. This way you are able to express yourself in an area that doesn't throw another thread off topic, and this way others can add their two cents as well if they wish, and additionally if there's something that needs to be said by the administrators, that is where they will respond to it.

B) Send a private message to the administrators, and they can respond to you that way.

If this is done the wrong way, those comments will be deleted, and if it's a repeating problem then it may also receive an infraction as well.

Rule #3

If a poster is bothering you, and an administrator has not or will not deal with that poster to the extent that you would prefer, you have a powerful tool at your disposal, one that has recently been upgraded and is now better than ever: The ability to ignore a user.

When you ignore a user, you will unfortunately still see some hints of their existence (nothing we can do about that), however, it does the following key things:

A) Any post they make will be completely invisible as you scroll through a thread.

B) The new addition to this feature: If someone QUOTES a user you are ignoring, you do not have to read who it was, or what that poster said, unless you go out of your way to click on a link to find out who it is and what they said.

To utilize this feature, from any page on Pacers Digest, scroll to the top of the page, look to the top right where it says 'Settings' and click that. From the settings page, look to the left side of the page where it says 'My Settings', and look down from there until you see 'Edit Ignore List' and click that. From here, it will say 'Add a Member to Your List...' Beneath that, click in the text box to the right of 'User Name', type in or copy & paste the username of the poster you are ignoring, and once their name is in the box, look over to the far right and click the 'Okay' button. All done!

Rule #4

Regarding infractions, currently they carry a value of one point each, and that point will expire in 31 days. If at any point a poster is carrying three points at the same time, that poster will be suspended until the oldest of the three points expires.

Rule #5

When you share or paste content or articles from another website, you must include the URL/link back to where you found it, who wrote it, and what website it's from. Said content will be removed if this doesn't happen.

An example:

If I copy and paste an article from the Indianapolis Star website, I would post something like this:

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We cannot tolerate illegal videos on Pacers Digest. This means do not share any links to them, do not mention any websites that host them or link to them, do not describe how to find them in any way, and do not ask about them. Posts doing anything of the sort will be removed, the offenders will be contacted privately, and if the problem becomes habitual, you will be suspended, and if it still persists, you will probably be banned.

The legal means of watching or listening to NBA games are NBA League Pass Broadband (for US, or for International; both cost money) and NBA Audio League Pass (which is free). Look for them on NBA.com.

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Provocative statements in a signature, or as an avatar, or as the 'tagline' beneath a poster's username (where it says 'Member' or 'Administrator' by default, if it is not altered) are an unwanted distraction that will more than likely be removed on sight. There can be shades of gray to this, but in general this could be something political or religious that is likely going to provoke or upset people, or otherwise something that is mean-spirited at the expense of a poster, a group of people, or a population.

It may or may not go without saying, but this goes for threads and posts as well, particularly when it's not made on the off-topic board (Market Square).

We do make exceptions if we feel the content is both innocuous and unlikely to cause social problems on the forum (such as wishing someone a Merry Christmas or a Happy Easter), and we also also make exceptions if such topics come up with regards to a sports figure (such as the Lance Stephenson situation bringing up discussions of domestic abuse and the law, or when Jason Collins came out as gay and how that lead to some discussion about gay rights).

However, once the discussion seems to be more/mostly about the political issues instead of the sports figure or his specific situation, the thread is usually closed.

Rule #8

We prefer self-restraint and/or modesty when making jokes or off topic comments in a sports discussion thread. They can be fun, but sometimes they derail or distract from a topic, and we don't want to see that happen. If we feel it is a problem, we will either delete or move those posts from the thread.

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Generally speaking, we try to be a "PG-13" rated board, and we don't want to see sexual content or similarly suggestive content. Vulgarity is a more muddled issue, though again we prefer things to lean more towards "PG-13" than "R". If we feel things have gone too far, we will step in.

Rule #10

We like small signatures, not big signatures. The bigger the signature, the more likely it is an annoying or distracting signature.

Rule #11

Do not advertise anything without talking about it with the administrators first. This includes advertising with your signature, with your avatar, through private messaging, and/or by making a thread or post.
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  • The ABA Draft List & Selection Thread

    Afflalo, Arron
    Ager, Maurice
    Akindele, Deji
    Allen, Malik
    Almond, Morris
    Amundson, Louis
    Anthony, Joe
    Armstrong, Darrell
    Atkins, Chucky
    Augustine, James

    Banks, Marcus
    Barea, Jose
    Barron, Earl
    Barry, Brent
    Baston, Maceo
    Battie, Tony
    Bonner, Matt
    Booth, Calvin
    Bowen, Bruce
    Bowen, Ryan
    Brooks, Aaron
    Brown, Andre
    Brown, Shannon
    Buckner, Greg
    Butler, Jackie
    Butler, Rasual

    Campbell, Marcus
    Cardinal, Brian
    Carter, Anthony
    Chandler, Wilson
    Chase, Brian
    Claxton, Speedy
    Collins, Jarron
    Collins, Jason
    Collins, Mardy
    Cook, Daequan
    Croshere, Austin
    Curry, JamesOn

    Daniels, Antonio
    Davidson, Jermareo
    Davis, Glen
    Davis, Paul
    Diawara, Yakhouba
    Dickau, Dan
    Dooling, Keyon
    Dudley, Jared
    Dupree, Ronald

    Edwards, John
    Evans, Maurice

    Farmar, Jordan
    Fazekas, Nick
    Fesenko, Kyrylo

    Gardner, Thomas
    Garrity, Pat
    Gelabale, Mickael
    George, Devean
    Giricek, Gordan
    Gortat, Marcin
    Graham, Stephen
    Green, Devin
    Green, Taurean
    Greene, Orien
    Griffin, Adrian

    Hall, Mike
    Haluska, Adam
    Hardaway, Anfernee
    Harrington, Othella
    Hart, Jason
    Hill, Herbert
    Hite, Robert
    Hollins, Ryan
    Horry, Robert
    Howard, Juwan
    Hudson, Troy
    Humphries, Kris
    Hunter, Lindsey

    Ilic, Mile
    Ilunga-Mbenga, Didier
    Ivey, Royal

    Jackson, Luke
    Jacobsen, Casey
    James, Jerome
    Jaric, Marko
    Johnson, Alexander
    Johnson, Anthony
    Jones, Bobby
    Jones, Damon
    Jones, Dwayne
    Jones, Fred
    Jones, Solomon

    Karl, Coby
    Khryapa, Viktor
    Kinsey, Tarence

    Landry, Carl
    Lasme, Stephane
    Livingston, Shaun
    Lucas III, John
    Lue, Tyronn
    Lyde, Kevin

    Madsen, Mark
    Mahinmi, Ian
    Marks, Sean
    Marshall, Rawle
    Martin, Darrick
    Mason, Roger
    May, Sean
    McGuire, Dominic
    McInnis, Jeff
    McRoberts, Josh
    Mejia, Sammy
    Miles, C.J.
    Darius Miles
    Moon, Jamario
    Morris, Randolph
    Morrison, Adam
    Muoneke, Gabe

    Najera, Eduardo
    Newble, Ira
    Noel, David
    Novak, Steve

    Oden, Greg
    Ollie, Kevin
    Outlaw, Bo
    Owens, Andre

    Pecherov, Oleksiy
    Perovic, Kosta
    Johan Petro
    Piatkowski, Eric
    Pollard, Scot
    Powe, Leon
    Powell, Josh
    Price, Ronnie
    Pruitt, Gabe

    Quinn, Chris

    Randolph, Shavlik
    Reed, Justin
    Richard, Chris
    Richardson, Jeremy
    Robinson, Bernard
    Rose, Malik
    Ross, Quinton
    Ruffin, Michael

    Samb, Cheik
    Scalabrine, Brian
    Sene, Mouhamed
    Sessions, Ramon
    Shakur, Mustafa
    Simien, Wayne
    Simmons, Cedric
    Skinner, Brian
    Slaughter, Marcus
    Snow, Eric
    Snyder, Kirk
    Storey, Awvee
    Stoudamire, Salim
    Strawberry, D.J.
    Stuckey, Rodney
    Sun Yue
    Sura, Bob

    Thomas, Doug
    Thomas, Etan
    Tucker, Alando

    Udoka, Ime
    Udrih, Beno

    Vaughn, Jacque
    Vinicius, Marcus
    Voskuhl, Jake
    Vujacic, Sasha

    Wafer, Von
    Wallace, Brandon
    Washington, Darius
    Watkins, Darryl
    West, Mario
    Williams, Aaron
    Williams, Justin
    Williams, Marcus
    Williams, Sean
    Wilmont, Roderick
    Wright, Antoine
    Wright, Brandan
    Wright, Julian
    Wright, Lorenzen


    Round 1
    Bulldog ----------------- LeBron James
    Avoidingtheclowns ------ Kevin Garnett
    ------------------------- Kobe Bryant
    Diamond Dave ----------- Dirk Nowitzki
    Shade ------------------ Dwyane Wade
    Diamond Dave 00 ------- Jermaine O'Neal
    Bellisimo ---------------- Pau Gasol
    Dr. Badd ---------------- Gilbert Arenas
    Mal --------------------- Steve Nash
    Pig Nash ---------------- Tim Duncan
    Gryon ------------------- Marcus Camby
    Able -------------------- Yao Ming
    bnd45 ------------------- Dwight Howard
    Lone Granger 33 --------- Jason Kidd
    Boston Connection ------- Shawn Marion
    Magic Rat --------------- Carmelo Anthony
    Indy -------------------- Deron Williams
    Burnzone ---------------- Josh Smith
    Jose Slaughter ----------- Tracy McGrady
    Rcarey ------------------ Amare Stoudemire
    Skaut Ech --------------- Chris Paul
    rm 1369 ----------------- Chris Bosh
    Jay Redd ---------------- Paul Pierce
    Boombaby 33 ------------ Carlos Boozer

    Round 2
    Boombaby 33 ------------ Vince Carter
    Jay Redd ---------------- Joe Johnson
    rm1369 ------------------ Emeka Okafor
    Skaut Ech --------------- Allen Iverson
    Rcarey ------------------ Andre Iguodala
    Jose Slaughter ----------- Baron Davis
    Burnzone ---------------- Al Jefferson
    Indy -------------------- Josh Howard
    Magic Rat --------------- Jamaal Tinsley
    Boston Connection ------- Gerald Wallace
    Lone Granger 33 --------- Luol Deng
    bnd45 ------------------- Lamar Odom
    Able --------------------- Kevin Martin
    Gyron ------------------- Kevin Durant
    Pig Nash ---------------- Brandon Roy
    Mal --------------------- Chauncey Billups
    Dr Badd ----------------- Michael Redd
    Bellisimo ---------------- Tony Parker
    Diamond Dave 00 -------- Ray Allen
    Shade ------------------ Zach Randolph
    Diamond Dave ----------- Jason Richardson
    ------------------------- Ron Artest
    Avoidingtheclowns ------ Raymond Felton
    Bulldog ------------------ Mehmet Okur

    Round 3
    Bulldog ----------------- Ben Gordon
    Avoidingtheclowns ------ Caron Butler
    ------------------------ Stephen Jackson
    Diamond Dave ---------- Tyson Chandler
    Shade ------------------ Rashard Lewis
    Diamond Dave 00 ------- Andre Miller
    Bellisimo ---------------- Kirk Hinrich
    Dr. Badd ---------------- Danny Granger
    Mal --------------------- Chris Kamen
    Pig Nash ---------------- Andrew Bogut
    Gryon ------------------- Ben Wallace
    Able -------------------- Maurice Williams
    bnd45 ------------------ Rip Hamilton
    Lone Granger 33 -------- Rasheed Wallace
    Boston Connection ------ Jason Terry
    Magic Rat --------------- Corey Maggette
    Indy -------------------- Eddy Curry
    Burnzone ---------------- LaMarcus Aldridge
    Jose Slaughter ----------- Manu Ginobili
    Rcarey ------------------ Leandro Barbosa
    Skaut Ech --------------- Zydrunas Ilgauskas
    rm 1369 ----------------- Antawn Jamison
    Jay Redd ---------------- David West
    Boombaby 33 ------------ Mike Bibby

    Round 4
    Boombaby 33 ------------ Mike Dunleavy
    Jay Redd ---------------- Andris Biedrins
    rm1369 ------------------ Ricky Davis
    Skaut Ech --------------- Brad Miller
    Rcarey ------------------ Al Harrington
    Jose Slaughter ----------- T.J. Forrd
    Burnzone ---------------- Andrei Kirilenko
    Indy -------------------- Mike Miller
    Magic Rat --------------- Monta Ellis
    Boston Connection ------- Andrea Bargnani
    Lone Granger 33 --------- Richard Jefferson
    bnd45 ------------------- Stephon Marbury
    Able --------------------- David Lee
    Gyron ------------------- Mickeal Pietrus
    Pig Nash ----------------- Delonte West
    Mal ---------------------- Chris Wilcox
    Dr Badd ------------------ Samnuel Dalembert
    Bellisimo ----------------- Shaquille O'Neal
    Diamond Dave 00 -------- Nenad Krstic
    Shade ------------------- Al Horford
    Diamond Dave ----------- Tayshaun Prince
    ------------------------- Nene
    Avoidingtheclowns ------- Andrew Bynum
    Bulldog ------------------ Marco Bellinelli

    Round 5
    Bulldog ------------------ Grant Hill
    Avoidingtheclowns ------- Rudy Gay
    ------------------------- Jamal Crawford
    Diamond Dave ----------- Larry Hughes
    Shade ------------------ Jarret Jack
    Diamond Dave 00 -------- Jeff Green
    Bellisimo ----------------- Josh Childress
    Dr. Badd ----------------- Randy Foye
    Mal ---------------------- Shane Battier
    Pig Nash ----------------- Jeff Foster
    Gryon -------------------- Nick Collison
    Able --------------------- Peja Stojakovic
    bnd45 ------------------- Boris Diaw
    Lone Granger 33 --------- Luke Walton
    Boston Connection ------- Elton Brand
    Magic Rat --------------- Ruben Patterson
    Indy -------------------- Tyrus Thomas
    Burnzone ---------------- Jameer Nelson
    Jose Slaughter ----------- Drew Gooden
    Rcarey ------------------ Corey Brewer
    Skaut Ech --------------- Channing Frye
    rm 1369 ----------------- Ronnie Brewer
    Jay Redd ---------------- Andres Nocioni
    Boombaby 33 ------------ Devin Harris

    Round 6
    Boombaby 33 ------------ Kedrick Perkins
    Jay Redd ---------------- Antonio McDyess
    rm1369 ------------------ Zaza Pachulia
    Skaut Ech --------------- Jason Maxiell
    Rcarey ------------------ Bonzi Wells
    Jose Slaughter ----------- Al Thornton
    Burnzone ---------------- Marquis Daniels
    Indy -------------------- Udonis Haslem
    Magic Rat --------------- Troy Murphy
    Boston Connection ------- Brendan Haywood
    Lone Granger 33 --------- Darko Milicic
    bnd45 ------------------- Hakim Warrick
    Able -------------------- Charlie Villanueva
    Gyron ------------------- Acie Law
    Pig Nash ---------------- Mike Conley Jr
    Mal --------------------- Luis Scola
    Dr Badd ----------------- Marvin Williams
    Bellisimo ---------------- Quentin Richardson
    Diamond Dave 00 -------- Kyle Korver
    Shade ------------------ Mikki Moore
    Diamond Dave ----------- Kenyon Martin
    ------------------------ Dorell Wright
    Avoidingtheclowns ------ Rafer Alston
    Bulldog ----------------- Jose Garbajosa

    Round 7
    Bulldog ----------------- Juan Carlos Navarro
    Avoidingtheclowns ------ Alonzo Mourning
    ------------------------ Kelenna Azubuike
    Diamond Dave ---------- Brevin Knight
    Shade ----------------- Anthony Parker
    Diamond Dave 00 ------- Ike Diogu
    Bellisimo --------------- Earl Boykins
    Dr. Badd --------------- Walter Hermann
    Mal -------------------- Rajon Rondo
    Pig Nash --------------- Jerry Stackhouse
    Gryon ------------------ Raja Bell
    Able ------------------- Travis Diener
    bnd45 ------------------- Earl Watson
    Lone Granger 33 --------- Jose Calderon
    Boston Connection ------- Tim Thomas
    Magic Rat ---------------- Chucky Atkins
    Indy ---------------------- Wally Szczerbiak
    Burnzone ----------------- Ryan Gomes
    Jose Slaughter ------------ Stromile Swift
    Rcarey ------------------- Andray Blatche
    Skaut Ech ---------------- Rashad McCants
    rm 1369 ------------------ Hedo Turkoglu
    Jay Redd ----------------- Paul Milsap
    Boombaby 33 ------------- Daniel Gibson

    Round 8
    Boombaby 33 -------------Travis Outlaw
    Jay Redd ----------------- Jason Williams
    rm1369 ------------------- Louis Williams
    Skaut Ech ---------------- Jamaal Magloire
    Rcarey ------------------- Derek Fisher
    Jose Slaughter ------------ Sam Cassell
    Burnzone ----------------- Martell Webster
    Indy --------------------- Steve Francis
    Magic Rat ---------------- Jianlian Yi
    Boston Connection -------- Desmond Mason
    Lone Granger 33 ---------- Charlie Bell
    bnd45 -------------------- Joel Przybilla
    Able --------------------- Shawne Williams
    Gyron -------------------- DeShawn Stevenson
    Pig Nash ----------------- Matt Barnes
    Mal ---------------------- Thabo Sefolosha
    Dr Badd ------------------ Fabricio Oberto
    Bellisimo ------------------ Cuttino Mobley
    Diamond Dave 00 ---------- Luke Ridnour
    Shade -------------------- Erick Dampier
    Diamond Dave ------------ Willie Green
    -------------------------- Kwame Brown
    Avoidingtheclowns -------- Morris Peterson
    Bulldog ------------------- Dan Gadzuric

    Round9
    Bulldog ------------------- Bobby Jackson
    Avoidingtheclowns -------- Kyle Lowry
    -------------------------- Anderson Varejao
    Diamond Dave ------------ Chris Duhon
    Shade -------------------- Matt Carroll
    Diamond Dave 00 --------- Javaris Crittenton
    Bellisimo ------------------ Mark Blount
    Dr. Badd ----------------- Shareef Abdur-Rahim
    Mal ---------------------- Primoz Brezec
    Pig Nash ----------------- Matt Harpring
    Gyron -------------------- J.R. Smith
    Able --------------------- Robert Swift
    bnd45 ------------------- Francisco Garcia
    Lone Granger 33 --------- Reggie Evans
    Boston Connection ------- Hilton Armstrong
    Magic Rat --------------- Joakim Noah
    Indy -------------------- Kurt Thomas
    Burnzone ---------------- Francisco Elson
    Jose Slaughter ----------- Ronnie Turiaf
    Rcarey ------------------- Nate Robinson
    Skaut Ech ---------------- Mike James
    rm 1369 ------------------ Steve Blake
    Jay Redd ----------------- Craig Smith
    Boombaby 33 ------------- Quincy Douby

    Round 10
    Boombaby 33 ------------- Josh Boone
    Jay Redd ----------------- Damon Stoudamire
    rm1369 ------------------ Rasho Nesterovic
    Skaut Ech ---------------- Linas Kleiza
    Rcarey ------------------- Joe Smith
    Jose Slaughter ------------ Amir Johnson
    Burnzone ------------------ Ronald Murray
    Indy ---------------------- Michael Findley
    Magic Rat ----------------- Bostjan Nachbar
    Boston Connection -------- John Salmons
    Lone Granger 33 ---------- Chuck Hayes
    bnd45 -------------------- James Posey
    Able ---------------------- Devin Brown
    Gyron --------------------- Carlos Arroyo
    Pig Nash ------------------ Sebastian Telfair
    Mal ---------------------- Trevor Ariza
    Dr Badd ------------------- Gerald Green
    Bellisimo ------------------ Jason Kapono
    Diamond Dave 00 --------- Keith Bogans
    Shade -------------------- Darius Songaila
    Diamond Dave ------------- James Jones
    --------------------------- Matt Bonner
    Avoidingtheclowns -------- Nick Young
    Bulldog ------------------- Sergio Rodriguez

    Round 11
    Bulldog -------------------- Adonyl Foyle
    Avoidingtheclowns --------- Shelden Williams
    --------------------------- Antoine Walker
    Diamond Dave -------------
    Shade -------------------- Damien Wilkins
    Diamond Dave 00 ---------- Carlos Delfino
    Bellisimo ------------------ Kenny Thomas
    Dr. Badd ------------------ Chris Mihm
    Mal ----------------------- Eddie House
    Pig Nash ------------------ Juan Dixon
    Gryon -------------------- Bobby Simmons
    Able ---------------------- Luther Head
    bnd45 -------------------- DeSagana Diop
    Lone Granger 33 ---------- Dikembe Mutombo
    Boston Connection -------- Melvin Ely
    Magic Rat ---------------- Nazr Mohammed
    Indy --------------------- Tony Allen
    Burnzone ----------------- Rodney Carney
    Jose Slaughter ------------ Johan Petro
    Rcarey ------------------- Theo Ratliff
    Skaut Ech ---------------- Brandon Bass
    rm 1369 ------------------ Brian Cook
    Jay Redd ----------------- Marcus Williams (NJ)
    Boombaby 33 ------------- Eddie Jones

    Round 12
    Boombaby 33 ------------- Thaddeus Young
    Jay Redd ----------------- Renaldo Balkman
    rm1369 ------------------- Jannero Pargo
    Skaut Ech ---------------- Chris Webber
    Rcarey ------------------- Jarvis Hayes
    Jose Slaughter ----------- Patrick O'Bryant
    Burnzone ----------------- Aaron Gray
    Indy --------------------- Jason Smith
    Magic Rat ---------------- David Harrison
    Boston Connection -------- Vladimir Radmanovic
    Lone Granger 33 ---------- Sasha Pavlovic
    bnd45 -------------------- Kareem Rush
    Able --------------------- Trenton Hassell
    Gyron -------------------- Raef LaFrentz
    Pig Nash ----------------- Jared Jeffries
    Mal ---------------------- Stephen Hunter
    Dr Badd ------------------ Michael Doleac
    Bellisimo ------------------ Derek Anderson
    Diamond Dave 00 --------- Donyell Marshall
    Shade -------------------- Joey Graham
    Diamond Dave ------------
    -------------------------- J.J. Redick
    Avoidingtheclowns -------- Smush Parker
    Bulldog -------------------

    Teams

    Bulldog 1 pick to make
    LeBron James
    Mehmet Okur
    Ben Gordon
    Marco Bellinelli
    Grant Hill
    Jose Garbajosa
    Juan Carlos Navarro
    Dan Gadzuric
    Bobby Jackson
    Sergio Rodriguez
    Adonyl Foyle

    Avoidingtheclowns
    Kevin Garnett
    Raymond Felton
    Caron Butler
    Andrew Bynum
    Rudy Gay
    Rafer Alston
    Alonzo Mourning
    Morris Peterson
    Kyle Lowry
    Nick Young
    Shelden Williams
    Smush Parker

    Open
    Kobe Bryant
    Ron Artest
    Stephen Jackson
    Nene
    Jamal Crawford
    Dorell Wright
    Kelenna Azubuike
    Kwame Brown
    Anderson Varejo
    Matt Bonner
    Antoine Walker
    J.J. Redick

    Diamond Dave - 2 picks to make
    Dirk Nowitzki
    Jason Richardson
    Tyson Chandler
    Tayshaun Prince
    Larry Hughes
    Kenyon Martin
    Brevin Knight
    Willie Green
    Chris Duhon
    James Jones

    Shade
    Dwyane Wade
    Zach Randolph
    Rashard Lewis
    Al Horford
    Jarret Jack
    Mikki Moore
    Anthony Parker
    Erick Dampier
    Matt Carroll
    Darius Songaila
    Damien Wilkins
    Joey Graham

    Diamond Dave 00
    Jermaine O'Neal
    Ray Allen
    Andre Miller
    Nenad Krstic
    Jeff Green
    Kyle Korver
    Ike Diogu
    Luke Ridnour
    Javaris Crittenton
    Keith Bogans
    Carlos Delfino
    Donyell Marshall

    Bellisimo
    Pau Gasol
    Tony Parker
    Kirk Hinrich
    Shaquille O'Neal
    Josh Childress
    Quentin Richardson
    Earl Boykins
    Cuttino Mobley
    Mark Blount
    Jason Kapono
    Kenny Thomas
    Derek Anderson

    Dr. Badd
    Gilbert Arenas
    Michael Redd
    Danny Granger
    Samnuel Dalembert
    Randy Foye
    Marvin Williams
    Walter Hermann
    Fabricio Oberto
    Shareef Abdur-Rahim
    Gerald Green
    Chris Mihm
    Michael Doleac

    Mal
    Steve Nash
    Chauncey Billups
    Chris Kamen
    Chris Wilcox
    Shane Battier
    Luis Scola
    Rajon Rondo
    Thabo Sefolosha
    Primoz Brezec
    Trevor Ariza
    Eddie House
    Stephen Hunter

    Pig Nash
    Tim Duncan
    Brandon Roy
    Andrew Bogut
    Delonte West
    Jeff Foster
    Mike Conley Jr
    Jerry Stackhouse
    Matt Barnes
    Matt Harpring
    Sebastian Telfair
    Juan Dixon
    Jared Jeffries

    Gryon
    Marcus Camby
    Kevin Durant
    Ben Wallace
    Mickeal Pietrus
    Nick Collison
    Acie Law
    Raja Bell
    DeShawn Stevenson
    J.R. Smith
    Carlos Arroyo
    Bobby Simmons
    Raef LaFrentz

    Able
    Yao Ming
    Kevin Martin
    Maurice Williams
    David Lee
    Peja Stojakovic
    Charlie Villanueva
    Travis Diener
    Shawne Williams
    Robert Swift
    Devon Brown
    Luther Head
    Trenton Hassell

    bnd45
    Dwight Howard
    Lamar Odom
    Rip Hamilton
    Stephon Marbury
    Boris Diaw
    Hakim Warrick
    Earl Watson
    Joel Przybilla
    Francisco Garcia
    James Posey
    DeSagana Diop
    Kareem Rush

    Lone Granger 33
    Jason Kidd
    Luol Deng
    Rasheed Wallace
    Richard Jefferson
    Luke Walton
    Darko Milicic
    Jose Calderon
    Charlie Bell
    Reggie Evans
    Chuck Hayes
    Dikembe Mutombo
    Sasha Pavlovic

    Boston Connection
    Shawn Marion
    Gerald Wallace
    Jason Terry
    Andrea Bargnani
    Elton Brand
    Brendan Haywood
    Tim Thomas
    Desmond Mason
    Hilton Armstrong
    John Salmons
    Melvin Ely
    Vladimir Radmanovic

    Magic Rat
    Carmelo Anthony
    Jamaal Tinsley
    Corey Maggette
    Monta Ellis
    Ruben Patterson
    Troy Murphy
    Chucky Atkins
    Jianlian Yi
    Joakim Noah
    Bostjan Nachbar
    Nazr Mohammed
    David Harrison

    Indy
    Deron Williams
    Josh Howard
    Eddy Curry
    Mike Miller
    Tyrus Thomas
    Udonis Haslem
    Wally Szczerbiak
    Steve Francis
    Kurt Thomas
    Michael Findley
    Tony Allen
    Jason Smith

    Burnzone
    Josh Smith
    Al Jefferson
    LaMarcus Aldridge
    Andrei Kirilenko
    Jameer Nelson
    Marquis Daniels
    Ryan Gomes
    Martell Webster
    Francisco Elson
    Ronald Murray
    Rodney Carney
    Aaron Gray

    Jose Slaughter
    Tracy McGrady
    Baron Davis
    Manu Ginobili
    T.J. Ford
    Drew Gooden
    Al Thornton
    Stromile Swift
    Sam Cassell
    Ronnie Turiaf
    Amir Johnson
    Spencer Hawes
    Patrick O'Bryant

    Rcarey
    Amare Stoudemire
    Andre Iguodala
    Leandro Barbosa
    Al Harrington
    Corey Brewer
    Bonzi Wells
    Andray Blatche
    Derek Fisher
    Nate Robinson
    Joe Smith
    Theo Ratliff
    Jarvis Hayes

    Skaut Ech
    Chris Paul
    Allen Iverson
    Zydrunas Ilgauskas
    Brad Miller
    Channing Frye
    Jason Maxiell
    Rashad McCants
    Jamaal Magloire
    Mike James
    Linas Kleiza
    Brandon Bass
    Chris Webber

    rm 1369
    Chris Bosh
    Emeka Okafor
    Antawn Jamison
    Ricky Davis
    Ronnie Brewer
    Zaza Pachulia
    Hedo Turkoglu
    Louis Williams
    Steve Blake
    Rasho Nesterovic
    Brian Cook
    Jannero Pargo

    Jay Redd
    Paul Pierce
    Joe Johnson
    David West
    Andris Biedrins
    Andres Nocioni
    Antonio McDyess
    Paul Milsap
    Jason Williams
    Craig Smith
    Damon Stoudamire
    Marcus Williams (NJ)
    Renaldo Balkman

    Boombaby 33
    Carlos Boozer
    Vince Carter
    Mike Bibby
    Mike Dunleavy
    Devin Harris
    Kedrick Perkins
    Daniel Gibson
    Travis Outlaw
    Quincy Douby
    Josh Boone
    Eddie Jones
    Thaddeus Young
    Last edited by Jose Slaughter; 10-28-2007, 04:04 AM.

  • #2
    Selection Thread

    I know I know, its Wednesday not Friday.

    Since I posted the draft order, Bulldog, with the #1 pick, has selected LeBron James.

    He suggested that we do what we did a couple seasons ago, start the draft a few days early, without using the draft clock.

    So the draft is underway without the use of the 12 hour draft clock. We'll see how many selections we can make before we plug the clock in early Friday morning.

    In short, if you're not ready to make a pick, don't feel rushed into making a selection. You're under no pressure to make a pick before Friday. If you can select a player it will help move things along a little quicker.

    Please limit your player picks & draft talk to this thread.

    To view & list of available players & those already selected please check out this thread.... http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-...ad.php?t=33922

    Oh, by the way to make it offical....................

    With the #1 pick, Bulldog has selected LeBron James

    Avoidingtheclowns is up next

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    • #3
      Re: The ABA Draft has Started - make your picks here

      Woohoo, by the way Jose, if it gets to me before Friday at 5, I'll make my pick, but through the weekend, I will be unavailable.

      Thanks!

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      • #4
        Re: The ABA Draft has Started - make your picks here

        Avoidingtheclowns has selected Kevin Garnett

        Ajbry is next
        Last edited by Jose Slaughter; 10-11-2007, 01:32 AM.

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        • #5
          Re: The ABA Draft has Started - make your picks here

          I select Kobe Bryant with the 3rd overall pick.

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          • #6
            Re: The ABA Draft has Started - make your picks here

            I'll take Dirk Nowitzki with the 4th pick
            House Name: Pacers

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            House Words: "We Kneel To No King"

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            • #7
              Re: The ABA Draft has Started - make your picks here

              Damn. I was really hoping someone would take this decision out of my hands, but alas, I will have to ride my horse again. Besides, I just know that the one year I pass him up, he'll stay healthy.

              For the third time in four seasons, I will select Dwayne Wade.

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              • #8
                Re: The ABA Draft List & Selection Thread

                Well, it just after 3:30 on Friday morning.

                I'm goin to go ahead & offically start the draft.

                Diamond Dave00 you are now, offically, on the clock.

                You have until 3:37 PM Indianapolis time to make your selection.

                At that moment Bellisimo can announce his pick & you may choose any player not already selected at your earlist opportunity.

                I have a list from Gyron & will be making picks for Bball until a replacement can be found for him.
                Last edited by Jose Slaughter; 10-12-2007, 03:41 AM.

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                • #9
                  Re: The ABA Draft List & Selection Thread

                  its past 3:37PM Indiana time...so I shall make my pick:
                  I'll take Pau Gasol with the 7th pick

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                  • #10
                    Re: The ABA Draft List & Selection Thread

                    Dr. Badd is on the clock

                    Diamond Dave 00 can select whenever.

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                    • #11
                      Re: The ABA Draft List & Selection Thread

                      I will select PG Gilbert Arenas.
                      PACER FAN ON STRIKE!!!-The moment the Pacers fire Larry Bird I will cheer for them again.

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                      • #12
                        Re: The ABA Draft List & Selection Thread

                        S:LKGF)W(#*%T)($@#%

                        That's EXACTLY who I was waiting on to drop to me.

                        Give me a minute.

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                        • #13
                          Re: The ABA Draft List & Selection Thread

                          I select PG Steve Nash

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                          • #14
                            Re: The ABA Draft List & Selection Thread

                            Originally posted by Mal View Post
                            S:LKGF)W(#*%T)($@#%

                            That's EXACTLY who I was waiting on to drop to me.

                            Give me a minute.
                            I don't blame you. The guy is probably the biggest ball-hog in the league, approaches every game as if it's a fantasy game for himself, and to top it off, he's in a contract year.

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                            • #15
                              Re: The ABA Draft List & Selection Thread

                              Sorry about the delay

                              Bball has decided he won't have the time to committ to the league & I yet to get a replacement for him. So, fo now I am selecting for that spot,

                              Bball selects Tim Duncan

                              Gyron has sent me a list, he selects Marcus Camby

                              Able is on the clock & MIA DDOO can select whenever he decides to join us.

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