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3/18/2013 Game Thread #67: Pacers Vs. Cavaliers

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  • #1

    3/18/2013 Game Thread #67: Pacers Vs. Cavaliers

    TAKING OUR TALENTS TO THE MISTAKE
    BY THE LAKE



    -VS-


    Game Time Start: 7:00 PM ET
    Where: Quicken Loans Arena, Cleveland, OH
    Officials: D. Crawford, L. Richardson, E. Roe

    Media Notes: Indiana Notes, Cleveland Notes
    Television: FOX Sports Indiana / FOX Sports Ohio
    Radio: WFNI 1070 AM / WTAM 1100 FM
    NBA Feeds:

    REMINDER: Per PD policy, please do not share a link to, describe how to search for, request a link to, or request a PM about streaming video of a NBA game that is not coming directly through the NBA. Not even in a "wink-wink, nudge-nudge, know-what-I-mean" round-about sort of way. Thank you


    40-26
    Away: 14-18
    East: 25-15
    22-44
    Home: 13-19
    East: 16-22
    Mar 19
    Mar 22
    Mar 23
    Mar 25
    7:00pm
    7:00pm
    8:00pm
    7:00pm
    HIBBERT
    WEST
    GEORGE
    STEPHENSON
    HILL
    ZELLER
    THOMPSON
    GEE
    WAITERS
    LIVINGSTON


    PACERS
    Danny Granger - sore knee (out)



    CAVALIERS
    Kyrie Irving - left AC (acromioclavicular) sprain (out)
    Anderson Varejao - vastus medialis split/surgery (out)



    Jared Dubin: Drive and Dish - The League's Best 3-and-D Guys

    In today’s NBA, with players downshifting positions and with quickness, length and
    versatility at a premium, the “3-and-D” wing is becoming more necessity than luxury.
    Role players who know their place, play within the system, provide spacing on one
    end and muck it up on the other are incredibly valuable in a league that is becoming
    increasingly conscious of its spatial qualities. With that in mind, I recently set out to
    determine a set of criteria that would allow me to pinpoint the league’s best “3-and-D”
    players this season.

    The criteria is inherently subjective, of course, but I felt it provided a nice guideline
    for what should be considered the typical “3-and-D” player. We’ll start with the
    offensive criteria, because figuring out which defensive metrics to use and in what
    combination was a little more difficult.
    Games played ≥ 40
    3PA/gm ≥ 3.0
    3PT% ≥ 37.0%
    USG ≤ 20.0

    This set of criteria narrowed the list down to players who have appeared in at least
    two-thirds of their team’s games this season, have a sizable enough offensive role–as
    measured by 3PA per game–to be considered a valuable contributor, but don’t have a
    big enough role–as measured by USG–that they can really be considered a
    foundational offensive player. The 37.0% cut-off is undoubtedly arbitrary, as the rest
    of the criteria are, but the line had to be drawn somewhere. The league average 3PT%
    for “swingmen” who have averaged at least 20 minutes per game and appeared in at
    least 40 games so far this season is 37.4%, per HoopData, so 37.0% seemed like a
    reasonable cut-off point.

    That set of offensive criteria yielded this list of 23 names:


    A pretty solid list, even if some of the players one might consider typical “3-and-D”
    types were left out. JJ Redick had too high a usage rate (20.2), Kawhi Leonard
    (36.1%) and Matt Barnes (35.7%) narrowly missed the 3PT% cut-off, Quincy
    Pondexter (2.8) of the Grizzlies didn’t have enough attempts per game, etc. Again,
    the line had to be drawn somewhere.

    This is where it got tougher, though. With no truly reliable all-in-one defensive metric
    available, I decided to use a combination of a three different things.

    First, mySynergySports' points per play (PPP) rankings. The average PPP allowed for
    the group of 23 players was 0.89, so I set the cut-off for this metric at a nice, round
    0.90. Anyone below (fewer is better in defensive PPP) that number got a check in
    their box; anyone above did not.

    Next was on-court defensive rating, or the amount of points per 100 possessions the
    player’s team allows when he is on the court.Any player’s team that allowed 2.0
    points per 100 possessions fewer with that player on the court than off got a check
    in their box; anyone who’s team did not, did not.

    And last was on-court defensive rating as compared to the league average. If the
    player’s team allowed a better than league average points per 100 possessions when
    he was on the court, he received a check in his box; players whose team allowed a
    below average points per 100 possessions mark with him on the court did not.

    Only two of the 23 players checked all three of those boxes, though three more came
    very close. Nine players checked two of three boxes, eight checked one of three, and
    four checked none at all. For the purposes of this exercise, I eliminated from
    competition those who checked either zero boxes or one box from the running for
    “best 3-and-D guy.” That list: Carlos Delfino, Caron Butler, DeShawn Stevenson,
    Dorell Wright, Jared Dudley, Jodie Meeks, Jose Calderon, Mike Dunleavy, Randy Foye,
    Ray Allen, Steve Novak and Wesley Matthews.

    The final contenders:


    A few surprises...CONTINUE READING AT HARDWOOD PAROXYSM

    Sam Riches: Waiting for Delonte

    Delonte West is unemployed for reasons that have little to do with basketball, and much
    to do with things basketball people don't much like talking about.

    It’s May 13, 2010, and the working media is churning through the visitors’ locker room
    of Boston’s TD Garden: notepads and mics in hand, elbows flared, eyes straight ahead.
    LeBron James sits at his locker; his eyes vacant, his body deflated. His Cavaliers have
    just been eliminated from the NBA playoffs. For the second consecutive year, the team
    posted the best record in the league and James was awarded the MVP; for the second
    consecutive year, they have nothing to show for it. James, at this point, is only 26-
    years-old and already one of the most famous athletes on the planet; his potential is
    boundless. He’ll be a free agent come summer, and as of that moment, he’s the most
    wanted man in sports.

    It’s a different story for Delonte West, who packs up his locker in the middle of the
    room, away from the media horde. For the last two years, he has been an integral
    member of the Cavaliers backcourt, adapting to whatever task was required of him on
    either end of the floor. He’s been dedicated to the team and they’ve been dedicated to
    him. He left in the middle of training camp in 2008, spending 11 days away from the
    team, to rejoin his battle with bipolar disorder; an affliction since childhood. When he
    returned, he became one of the most important players during the team's 2009
    postseason run. The Cavaliers faced the Orlando Magic in the Eastern Conference Finals
    and West played more than 45 minutes a night, a nod to his versatility. He was on the
    court more than wild-haired, pogo-stick power forward Anderso Varejão, more than
    towering 7’3’ Lithuanian centre Žydrūnas Ilgauskas, more than trigger-happy but
    desultory guard Mo Williams, and more even than James, their messianic leader, the
    man who, while still in high school, had the foresight, and pomposity, to have “Chosen
    1” inked across his shoulder blades.

    This year, in these 2010 playoffs, West’s minutes dropped and his production went down
    alongside them. An unsubstantiated rumor has been circling West, the team, the sports
    world, infecting the locker room and spilling onto the court—that West had slept with
    Gloria James, LeBron’s mother. In this moment, in this locker room, that allegation is
    forgotten. The only question that matters is where James will play when his contract is
    up. West’s departure barely rippled across the room, his future far more uncertain than
    his more famous and talented teammate's, but of infinitely less concern.

    The teasing began when he was young. They targeted his light skin and green eyes,
    marks of his African American and Piscataway Native American descent. They targeted
    the vascular birthmark that stretched from the corner of his bottom left lip and across
    his chin. They targeted his temper, his mood swings. They were just kids, of course,
    and just being cruel for the reason kids are cruel: for the reaction, to watch him
    explode. West found a safe place on the basketball court, and he stayed there.

    He made his adult home in Brandywine, Maryland; an inconspicuous, unincorporated
    part of Prince George's County without shopping malls or traffic jams or controversy; a
    place where the farms stretch for miles and a picket fence, three baths, four bedrooms
    and five thousand square feet cost about $400,000. West was just outside of town on
    Thursday, September 17, 2009, traveling down the 495 on his Can-Am Spyder
    motorcycle. It was around 10pm and West was woozy from a dose of Seroquel, an
    antipsychotic medicine used to treat bipolar disorder and schizophrenia. To complicate
    matters, he had a 9mm Beretta shoved in his waistband, a Ruger .357 strapped to his
    leg and a shotgun in the guitar case slung across his back. He also had 100 rounds of
    ammo and an eight-inch Bowie knife on his person.

    West had kept those weapons tucked away in the basement of his Brandywine home, a
    space that he mostly kept to himself. In an interview with Slam, West said he went to
    bed early on the evening in question, feeling more tired than usual. His mother woke
    him up: his friends were in the basement, hanging out in the recording studio, and
    they’d found the weapons, which he’d purchased as collector’s items. She wanted them
    out of the house and she wanted them out now. West knew he shouldn’t have been
    driving but he thought he could make the short trip to an empty house he owned nearby
    and safely lock everything away. He was fading in and out of consciousness when he
    noticed a State Trooper traveling alongside him. West alleges he attempted to get the
    officer’s attention, so he could get help. The police report says he was pulled over for
    negligent driving. With both vehicles pulled off the interstate, West told the officer he
    wasn’t functioning well and was transporting weapons. The officer called backup, and
    after searching West and his bike, they found his arsenal. He pled guilty to two of the
    eight charges levied against him—six weapon offenses and two traffic violations—and
    spent the next eight months on home detention, with two months of probation and 40
    hours of community service.

    The teasing came back. Efforts to try and understand instead fell victim to the ease of
    cheap jokes. Media, fans, celebrities, random people in random places called him
    Desperado, dismissed him as crazy, wrote off his career and everything he had
    accomplished.

    A month after his arrest, the Cavaliers ...CONTINUE READING AT THE CLASSICAL




    Pacers
    Mike Wells @MikeWellsNBA
    Jared Wade @8pts9secs
    Tim Donahue @TimDonahue8p9s
    Tom Lewis @indycornrows


    Cavaliers
    M.S. Boyer/J. Valade @PDcavsinsider
    Bob Finnan @BobCavsinsider
    John Krolik @JohnKrolik
    Conrad Kaczmarek @conradkaczmarek
    This is the darkest timeline.
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  • #2
    Re: 3/18/2013 Game Thread #67: Pacers Vs. Cavaliers

    Given the way both the Cavs and Pacers are playing, this game is going to be way closer than I prefer. I could care less that we are the 2nd best record in the east now....I can see us losing if we play like we have for the last couple of weeks.
    Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

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    • #3
      Re: 3/18/2013 Game Thread #67: Pacers Vs. Cavaliers

      I am not concerned right now. If we lose either of these next two, I will be very concerned.
      There is no NBA player named Monte Ellis.

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      • #4
        Re: 3/18/2013 Game Thread #67: Pacers Vs. Cavaliers

        David West is a game time decision with a lower back sprain.

        He needs to sit out, give the dude some rest.

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        • #5
          Re: 3/18/2013 Game Thread #67: Pacers Vs. Cavaliers

          http://blogs.pacers.com/david-west-a...leveland-game/

          Originally posted by Pacers.com
          By Scott Agness

          David West may not be available tonight in Cleveland. The 6-9, 250 lb. forward sustained a lower back sprain in Saturday’s loss to Philadelphia and has been declared a game-time decision.

          West briefly went back to the locker room during Saturday’s game, but then returned and finished the game. He played in the entire fourth quarter.

          Should West not be able to go, Tyler Hansbrough will start and Jeff Pendergraph would back him up. The Pacers, losers in two-straight and four of their last six games, look to get back on track tonight against the Cavs (22-44).

          West has only missed one game in his almost two seasons with the Pacers. He sat out Feb. 13th’s game against the Charlotte Bobcats with a scratched left eye. That night, Hansbrough was elevated to the starting lineup and finished with a season-high 19 points and 10 rebounds.

          West, the backbone of the Pacers, is averaging 17.3 points and 7.7 rebounds per game this season.

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          • #6
            Re: 3/18/2013 Game Thread #67: Pacers Vs. Cavaliers

            Of course, it's just another excuse in the making. No reason the Pacers shouldn't be able to win without all of their starters, much less without just one. Not like any team that might beat us while we were short-handed has to worry about feeling inferior because of it.

            BillS

            A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
            Or throw in a first-round pick and flip it for a max-level point guard...

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            • #7
              Re: 3/18/2013 Game Thread #67: Pacers Vs. Cavaliers

              Is this the night that Tyler finds the elusive mid-range jumper that he has misplaced? Probably not..... dude could hit that jumper in college all the time. In the NBA he has progressively got worse at it season by season.
              You can't get champagne from a garden hose.

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              • #8
                Re: 3/18/2013 Game Thread #67: Pacers Vs. Cavaliers

                Start Granger at PF!

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                • #9
                  Re: 3/18/2013 Game Thread #67: Pacers Vs. Cavaliers

                  Originally posted by graphic-er View Post
                  Is this the night that Tyler finds the elusive mid-range jumper that he has misplaced? Probably not..... dude could hit that jumper in college all the time. In the NBA he has progressively got worse at it season by season.
                  What the heck has happened to his jumpshot?

                  He has no confidence at all anymore.

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                  • #10
                    Re: 3/18/2013 Game Thread #67: Pacers Vs. Cavaliers

                    I anticipate another MVP-caliber performance from Pendergraph.
                    You Got The Tony!!!!!!

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                    • #11
                      Re: 3/18/2013 Game Thread #67: Pacers Vs. Cavaliers

                      Follow

                      David Benner
                      ‏@PacersDMB
                      David West is out for tonight's game at Cleveland with a lower back sprain.
                      The poster "pacertom" since this forum began (and before!). I changed my name here to "Slick Pinkham" in honor of the imaginary player That Bobby "Slick" Leonard picked late in the 1971 ABA draft (true story!).

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                      • #12
                        Re: 3/18/2013 Game Thread #67: Pacers Vs. Cavaliers

                        Hey guys, remember that excellent meme a fella posted here counting how many days have passed since the name of Eric Gordon was last discussed on PD?
                        Yeah we need a similar one for Tyler's last made jump shot...
                        Never forget

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                        • #13
                          Re: 3/18/2013 Game Thread #67: Pacers Vs. Cavaliers

                          Originally posted by Slick Pinkham View Post
                          Follow

                          David Benner
                          ‏@PacersDMB
                          David West is out for tonight's game at Cleveland with a lower back sprain.
                          Bummer. Not that we certainly need West to beat Cleveland BUT

                          1) We kind of suck lately and we could use all the help. Especially from players who have more than one way to put the ball in the basket.

                          2) We need not to lose another stupid game like the one against Philly.
                          Never forget

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                          • #14
                            Re: 3/18/2013 Game Thread #67: Pacers Vs. Cavaliers

                            sucks to have our BAMF out, but it's also good to know there was a solid reason for his subpar last game
                            The poster "pacertom" since this forum began (and before!). I changed my name here to "Slick Pinkham" in honor of the imaginary player That Bobby "Slick" Leonard picked late in the 1971 ABA draft (true story!).

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                              Re: 3/18/2013 Game Thread #67: Pacers Vs. Cavaliers


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