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Sonyfan91
02-21-2013, 05:22 PM
How soon will it happen and do you think he will start or be our new 6th man?

Trader Joe
02-21-2013, 05:24 PM
You should ask Mike Wells and Mark Boyle on twitter. I heard they know and just aren't telling.

@MikeWellsNBA and @Mark_J_boyle

Tell your friends to do the same.

DEEman
02-21-2013, 05:26 PM
First one i dont know.. Ill just take a wait and see approach on this one.

And normally i would say: never change a winning team to much when you dont have much time to gel before you need to peak.. But Lance, the creator he is, fits so much better in the second unit, so i have to say; Granger as starter. Not right away. Give him some minutes in the second unit, let him get used to playing.. And than slowly putting him between the starters and Lance into the second unit. When i read it like this, easy thing to do!

DJVendetta
02-21-2013, 05:32 PM
if he really is THAT ready, start him and see what happens lol quite frankly I wouldn't be upset with him having the role of either one honestly as long as he is still Danny Granger

MillerTime
02-21-2013, 05:37 PM
We're winning so there's absolutely no rush to bring Granger back and risk futher damage.

Granger will start off on the bench but will eventually make his way to a starting role again

CableKC
02-21-2013, 05:40 PM
It doesn't matter to me who starts.....what matters is who closes.

I think that Granger and PG will only play together for about 18 to 22 mpg anyway....where the majority of the time...we will likely see Granger and PG paired with Lance....so I don't think it really matters.

The question is who will close. I think that Lance brings something to the floor that no one else does.....dribble penetration that leads to scoring or some pass to an open Player. Granger just doesn't do that.

cgg
02-21-2013, 05:46 PM
It doesn't matter to me who starts.....what matters is who closes.

I think that Granger and PG will only play together for about 18 to 22 mpg anyway....where the majority of the time...we will likely see Granger and PG paired with Lance....so I don't think it really matters.

The question is who will close. I think that Lance brings something to the floor that no one else does.....dribble penetration that leads to scoring or some pass to an open Player. Granger just doesn't do that.

How does he get his 5 fta then?

Ace E.Anderson
02-21-2013, 05:58 PM
How does he get his 5 fta then?

And that was his lowest number in years!

It baffles me that people don't think Danny gets to the basket when he normally gets 5-7 FTA a game on an annual basis

cgg
02-21-2013, 06:10 PM
I actually have a profound feeling of dread anytime Lance starts to dribble and a huge sense of relieve when he doesn't pull up for an off balance shot and passes it instead.

SMosley21
02-21-2013, 06:15 PM
This will surely be met with much skepticism, but I think it would almost be wise to play Danny with the 2nd unit, AND move Sam Young into Lance's spot with the starters.

If we roll Danny out with the DJ, OJ, Tyler and Ian, teams are going to immediately double Danny making him virtually useless, unless the other guys step up big. If we have a 2nd unit of

DJ
Lance
Danny
Tyler
Ian

That is a decent amount of offensive firepower, with Lance's ability to create as well as DJ's ability to find the open man and knock down open 3's. Then you've got Tyler and Ian cleaning up the glass and getting put backs. Also provides great size on the 2nd unit.

Just an idea

pacer4ever
02-21-2013, 06:17 PM
Vogel was on Jim Rome yesterday and he said briefly he will be brought off the bench(but then be a starter when he is ready). I DVRed it on the CBS sports channel.

cgg
02-21-2013, 06:18 PM
Our second unit is either

DJ
Lance
Danny
Tyler
Ian

or

DJ
Lance
PG
Tyler
Ian

DG and PG will start. One will sub out earlier for Lance, then sub back in and play with Lance. OJ and Young are only going to get filler minutes.

PacerDude
02-21-2013, 06:21 PM
Give him a few games to knock the rust off by coming off the bench. Start blending him in with the starters when he's in game shape. If it ain't working with Granger with the 1st and Lance with the 2nd, switch back. This whole thing is really volatile.

I trust Vogel to make the right decisions.

beast23
02-21-2013, 06:25 PM
Vogel was on Jim Rome yesterday and he said briefly he will be brought off the bench(but then be a starter when he is ready). I DVRed it on the CBS sports channel.
It baffles me how much this can be argued and discussed. It seems like the authority on this would be Vogel, who is pretty much a straight shooter. And, being as Vogel has been saying exactly as you have state for the last 3 or 4 weeks, i guess I'm surprised this keeps coming up.

Maybe we should just sticky a title that says "Granger Initially Off Bench. Later, Granger Starts".

BobbyMac
02-21-2013, 08:08 PM
To insure that he is warmed up I would suggest starting the 1st and 3rd quarter for about 6 minutes each at the start.

Jessen
02-21-2013, 08:17 PM
initially? Roll him off the bench until he is full go. Then tweak the lineup as needed. Either need him or Lance to really step it up in that second unit.

BlueNGold
02-21-2013, 08:18 PM
Let him crush the backups from the other team. I don't think we need to mess with the starting lineup which is capable of beating everyone in the east and I think might be the best starting unit in the east.

cdash
02-21-2013, 08:19 PM
It baffles me how much this can be argued and discussed. It seems like the authority on this would be Vogel, who is pretty much a straight shooter. And, being as Vogel has been saying exactly as you have state for the last 3 or 4 weeks, i guess I'm surprised this keeps coming up.

Maybe we should just sticky a title that says "Granger Initially Off Bench. Later, Granger Starts".

Even if he didn't say that--isn't it pretty obvious that is how it would play out? You bring him back slowly, let him play his way into shape and get his rhythm and timing back, then you throw him back into the starting lineup. How many NBA precedents are there for this?

CableKC
02-21-2013, 08:42 PM
How does he get his 5 fta then?
I think that Lance is better at dribbling, penetrating and ( most notably ) finding the open man than Granger is. How much better? I don't know...but enough for me to say that both Lance and Granger offers a different skillset when both are on the floor.

This doesn't mean that I think that Lance is better than Granger....given Lance's skillsets....I'm saying that I think that Lance complements PG more than Granger complements PG.

CableKC
02-21-2013, 08:46 PM
I actually have a profound feeling of dread anytime Lance starts to dribble and a huge sense of relieve when he doesn't pull up for an off balance shot and passes it instead.
I agree with you on this when Lance started to get more minutes at the beginning of the season....but as he started playing more and became more comfortable handling the ball.....I am more inclined to believe that he will make a good pass to an open Player. Watching him play earlier in the season....I will repeat what I said in one of the earlier game threads:

If Lance is driving to the hoop and you are left open cuz the guy guarding you shifts over to protect the paint from Lance......get ready for a pass....cuz Lance will not only see it...he will get the ball to you.

cgg
02-21-2013, 08:48 PM
I think that Lance is better at dribbling, penetrating and ( most notably ) finding the open man than Granger is. How much better? I don't know...but enough for me to say that both Lance and Granger offers a different skillset when both are on the floor.

This doesn't mean that I think that Lance is better than Granger....given Lance's skillsets....I'm saying that I think that Lance complements PG more than Granger complements PG.

Disagree. I like Lance, but he doesn't draw attention and open things up like Granger will.

cdash
02-21-2013, 08:50 PM
It really seems like people have forgotten that Danny Granger is a pretty damn good basketball player. He is going to help this team, and with all due respect to Lance, Granger is a much better player at this point in time. That is, of course, assuming his knee holds up.

CableKC
02-21-2013, 08:53 PM
Disagree. I like Lance, but he doesn't draw attention and open things up like Granger will.
I'm not saying that Granger doesn't draw the attention of the defense....I'm just saying that both of them do...just in different ways.