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Peck
12-20-2004, 08:22 AM
Let's be honest, with increased security from the N.B.A., no beer & the fact that it is Christmas I doubt very much there will be issues.

Certainly there will be no issues with the Pistons team as our fans, even if they wanted to, will not be able to get to them.

The next home game vs. Detroit will be something differant for sure, everybody will be back (except maybe Ron) & since it won't be a holiday many more Detroit people will make the trip.

But we'll deal with that then. Let's talk about what to do now. Here are my suggestions & I want to hear yours.

1. Do not confront Detroit fans as they come into the arena. Yes, it will be tempting when you see someone wearing a Wallace # 3 jersey to yell a curse word or two at them. Restrain yourself. This will become very important for one of my later suggestions.

2. Do not throw anything at their fans or players. Again this will come into play later.

3. Do not become in any physical dispute with their fans.

4. Cheer for the Pacers.

5. Allow them to politely cheer for the Pistons.

Now here is where that increased security will work both ways. Since Dickface Stern thinks they need the security for our fans :rolleyes: let us use this to our advantage.

Allowing the Pistons fans to politely cheer does not mean to allow them to taunt or to yell curse words in our fieldhouse. :)

So if you feel uncomfortable with the way one of their fans are boasting or if you feel threatened by their chanting I highly suggest the following.

6.If a Pistons fan becomes rowdy or taunts you or your section in any way find an usher & express your concern for the lack of safety in the area.

I assure you, you will see results in this. For those of you that are new to the field house the ushers are positioned at the entrance way to every isle. They wear dark green coats with light colored shirts that I believe are striped in green. They have name tags on as well.

BTW, we should follow the FCC ruling on this. You know how you can say the F word on T.V. as long as you are not refering to the act thereof.

Well, may I suggest that the very words Detroit Basketball be judged in the same context.

For instance when a fan on theirs says I like to watch Detroit Basketball we should let that run off of us like water off of a duck.

However, if some guy decides to stand up & yell DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeetrooiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitttttttttttttttttt ttt Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaskeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeetbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllll lllllllllllllll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think that should be considered a curse, don't you? :devil: A visit from one of our friendly & helpfull ushers will help remind them that cursing is not allowed. When you tell the usher this make sure you just say that the offending fan is cursing, he'll know what words he used. ;)

7. If a group of Pistons fans sit together it is natural that they might feel the need to cheer their team. This is fine. However if they make any sudden moves, say standing in unison quickly :-p , it's only natural that you would feel threatened.

Again a visit to our friendly ushers explaining your uncomfort about their sudden lunges, say it just like that they will know what you mean ;) , will help encourage our friends to politley cheer their team.

Now we should encourage our friends from the north to enjoy the holiday & have a good time spending money in our state & city. But if a few of them spend money & then are ejected with no refund because they chose to be of ill will this should not weigh on our conscious. :D

Remember the spirit of the season & share the love that is Pacers basketball with our good friends from Michigan. Be so polite it sickens them.

I await your suggestions.

DANCINGHARRY
12-20-2004, 08:27 AM
That would be hillarious, I really feel how ever that just the mere fact they are wearing Detroit Garb is cursing and that should be reported as well.

Willbo
12-20-2004, 10:09 AM
:applaud:

DisplacedKnick
12-20-2004, 10:10 AM
I wonder how strict they'll be on signs. I can think of some good ones such as:

Hey Ben - is that your head or a Chia Pet?

BTW - been waiting for a chance to share this - surprised nobody else has mentioned it. Was driving N from the Convention Center on Illinois St. Saturday and saw this Hardee's billboard: "Skinny Burgers are for Detroit Fans."

Pretty funny.

RWB
12-20-2004, 10:28 AM
Do you think anyone would get in trouble if fans called the Pistons "Mother Fockers" and say they're just trying to promote the movie just like the comericals lately.

Hicks
12-20-2004, 10:46 AM
Heh yeah, bring a sign with *stand back* Barbara Streisand's face on it, with text reading:

Detroit =
Mother Fockers

:D

Diamond Dave
12-20-2004, 11:31 AM
Speaking of increased security I have made this analysis.

After September 11th, security at Conseco and throughout every NBA areana was increased exponentially. Walking in you were forced to have a metal dectector run over you. Then as time went on and people began to care less and less the metal dectectors went away, there were less security members, and the security members who were there did a **** poor job. I always felt that if I wanted to take a gun in I could just carry it in my coat and the security would never know it as they would be too busy looking at my belt.

However since the brawl the security has been beefed up. The metal dectectors are back. They still don't check my coat! Needless to say I think that the message is clear. The Pacers and Pistons brawl was a catastrophe equal to Sept 11th.;)

Also in reference to the signs. I was at the Colts and Ravens game last night and there were about 8 boisterous Ravens fans sitting 2 rows behind me in the upper deck. They would organize chants and the Colts fans would do their usual lame comebacks. However two late teens or earlier 20's men came up the stairs with Colts attire on and looked right at the Ravens fans. Now keep in mind this is right after these fans had to see enemy number 1 Jim Irsay announce plans for a new stadium and a plan to keep the Colts in Indy for 30 years. These fans hate Irsay with all their soul. Screaming like mad men at him. Back to the teens. They come up the stairs, look right at the Ravens fans and unveil their sign that read "We Stole Your Team" and began to chant the statement over and over again. This group of Ravens fans lost their minds. Never have I seen a sign enrage a group so much. While this sign was definitely classless I would be lying if I didn't say that it was the most funny incident from the game and that it completely "out did" anything the Ravens fans could say back. Having 20 people chant "We Stole Your Team" was easily the most clever thing Colts fans have come up with in a long time.

beast23
12-20-2004, 12:00 PM
If I come across Detroit fans I'll probably just say:

"Welcome to Conseco. I'm certain you will find your stay with us much more hospitable than the one that you provided our players during their last visit to your city."

Polite, yet gets the point across.

Deadshot
12-20-2004, 03:25 PM
BTW - been waiting for a chance to share this - surprised nobody else has mentioned it. Was driving N from the Convention Center on Illinois St. Saturday and saw this Hardee's billboard: "Skinny Burgers are for Detroit Fans."

Pretty funny.

Anyone have pictures of these billboards? I would love to see one!

JOneal7
12-20-2004, 05:13 PM
screw that...these jack *** fans threw beer on our players and almost ruined our damn season. It's fair game!

Hicks
12-20-2004, 05:32 PM
Anyone with that attitude is only going to make this become worse. Not meaning to single you out, I know you can't be the only one who feels that way. I just hope no one with this attidude manages to do anything at the game that makes this season worse for anybody.

shags
12-20-2004, 05:48 PM
screw that...these jack *** fans threw beer on our players and almost ruined our damn season. It's fair game!

That post is the exact reason why the NBA is providing the Pistons with extra security.

TheSauceMaster
12-20-2004, 06:02 PM
Hey atleast 50-100 people that go to the game * That read Pacers Digest* will know what to do , the other 18,000+ will be clueless :rolleyes:

:-p :-p :-p :-p

ChicagoJ
12-20-2004, 06:05 PM
screw that...these jack *** fans threw beer on our players and almost ruined our damn season. It's fair game!
There's no need to stoop to thier level, so please don't embarass the rest of us. But if you do, since you just moved here, we can easily throw you to the dogs.

But we'd all be happier if cooler heads prevailed.

JOneal7
12-20-2004, 07:06 PM
I wasn't hinting I was going to do anything. Just look at it like this...those piston fans hurled drinks and chairs and everything they could get their filthy hands on! if there was a kitchen sink they would have thrown that! (I heard a fan tryed loosening one in the bathrooms) And you guys are all like "Make sure they have a good time here" or "Say Hi to them and welcome them to the game". Like cursing at them is going to be so horrible and make us all look uncivilized. If any detroit fan knows about being civil please come see me. Maybe it is a little imature. Whatever...it was imature of them to do that to our players and ruin our season just because our guys wouldnt smile and say "Thank you..please continue throwing beer on me". There is times where that whole politeness doesn't work. And if I see a piston fan shouting that little "DETROIIIIIIIIIIT BASKEEEEEETBALLL" I'm going to let him have it. Not physically but verbally I will. I'm not the only ones who feel like this. The tension in the air will be so thick. It should be interesting...maybe my sign should say..."HEY ABC, THANKS FOR DROPPING US"... or "ABC,We will see you in the finals"
maybe I'm just the odd man out on this issue.

Ultimate Frisbee
12-20-2004, 07:12 PM
I personally like the idea of talking to security about feeling unsafe due to roudy Pistons fans...

If they are anything like they were during the playoffs in Conseco, they will surely get escorted out of the arena!

grace
12-20-2004, 10:42 PM
Please tell me JOneal7's mom still isn't letting him go to the game.

JOneal7
12-20-2004, 10:45 PM
you know I got my ways! :-D
hahaha...it's gonna be a gooooood day :)
Time to rep man!

SycamoreKen
12-20-2004, 11:23 PM
you know I got my ways! :-D
hahaha...it's gonna be a gooooood day :)
Time to rep man!

Ah, the phrase "time to rep" which can be translated into "go show how immature and stupid I can be." Maybe we need to show how classy our fans can be and just treat it as a big rivalry game. I'm sure none of the goofs that were involved in Detroit will be there. I go to Spurs games with my Pacers gear on and root openly for my team with no fear of being singled out or abused. Fans that visit Conseco should feel the same way.

Boo Big Ben and The Pistons all you want. Making it personal with some opposing fan that may not even go to games in Detroit accomplishes nothing.

Peck
12-21-2004, 01:44 AM
I wasn't hinting I was going to do anything. Just look at it like this...those piston fans hurled drinks and chairs and everything they could get their filthy hands on! if there was a kitchen sink they would have thrown that! (I heard a fan tryed loosening one in the bathrooms) And you guys are all like "Make sure they have a good time here" or "Say Hi to them and welcome them to the game". Like cursing at them is going to be so horrible and make us all look uncivilized. If any detroit fan knows about being civil please come see me. Maybe it is a little imature. Whatever...it was imature of them to do that to our players and ruin our season just because our guys wouldnt smile and say "Thank you..please continue throwing beer on me". There is times where that whole politeness doesn't work. And if I see a piston fan shouting that little "DETROIIIIIIIIIIT BASKEEEEEETBALLL" I'm going to let him have it. Not physically but verbally I will. I'm not the only ones who feel like this. The tension in the air will be so thick. It should be interesting...maybe my sign should say..."HEY ABC, THANKS FOR DROPPING US"... or "ABC,We will see you in the finals"
maybe I'm just the odd man out on this issue.

Ahhhhh my young friend you totally misunderstood the intent of my post. If we are non-confrontational with them then it can only be them that starts anything.

Your there to watch the Pacers correct? Well, if you are enjoy the game.

They are there to watch the Pistons correct? Well, let them enjoy watching the game.

Here's the story. If you throw something or act the fool you will end up in one of a couple of scenario's.

1. You will be removed from your seat by security & you will either lose your seats for the season, which I know you paid a lot for.

2. You will get to go across the street & visit the Marion County lockup (not a nice place).

The Piston fans aren't worth that.

Don't even give them the satisfaction of yelling at them. That is what they want. They want to become the show, they want to be the center of attention.

Don't get me wrong, if you wanna boo Big Ben then do it to your hearts content but becoming involved with their fans will only be a loss for you.

However, if one or some of them make you feel uncomfortable, can you think of a much happier christmas for you than the pleasure of knowing you are sitting in the fine warmth & comfort of CSF while they are ejected & possibly jailed? Just think, it's christmas, they've driven hundreds of miles in poor weather & paid a good sum of money to watch a game. To only be ejected, lose the money & with any luck will get to spend Christmas in jail. ;)

Don't you do anything to lose those seats.

How the hell will I know how to feel during a game if I can't tell what way your hat is?

Lord Helmet
12-21-2004, 01:58 AM
How the hell will I know how to feel during a game if I can't tell what way your hat is? :laugh:

canyoufeelit
12-21-2004, 03:39 PM
Seriously, a nice endless buckwheat chant for Ben Wallace would be funny

ReGgieMiLLeR31
12-21-2004, 03:52 PM
I'm seriously tired of this "let's be classy". I know we are a class organization but I do not know what is wrong with taunting Pisstons fans who will be there or taunting the players. I know Pacer fans are classy and will not throw anything on the Pisssssssssertons but let the Piston fans know we are angry that they attempted to ruin our season and we will overcome that.

hoopsforlife
12-21-2004, 06:36 PM
I think Pacer fans should line up along the bar and have Piston fans slide beers down at them all night. This way the Piston fans could get the satisfaction of slinging beer at Pacer people and Pacers fans could get drunk as a skunk for free.

waxman
12-21-2004, 07:26 PM
How about Pistons fans get a free gift bag....................................of poo.:zip:

JOneal7
12-21-2004, 09:52 PM
I wasn't gonna hurl nothing at any players. I'm still a big fan of guys like Rip Hamilton and Antonio Mcdyess. It was just a bad scene and us as pacer fans felt helpless while those morons sat there and degraded our entire team. And most of them got away with it to. I'm not planning on doing anything wrong. "Time to Rep" means it's time to show up. Every pacer fan better be the loudest ever on this day! And I want booing constantly the whole game! You could feel the hate when shaq first came back to orlando after he bolted for LA. Booing on every laker possession was done. And when Nick anderson canned that twisting three giving the magic the lead and ultimately the win..they erupted! I don't expect a lame conseco fieldhouse on this night...NOPE! Time to rep...it also means it's time to represent for the city. Which means we can't all act like idiots. I never planned on it. And I hope to see plenty of JO,Ron Ron, And Sjax (seen em before) jerseys in the stands. I want them to know we are there for them. And finally...I WANT A ROUTE BABY! LOL...I want a friggin blowout...
that is all... :)
Merry Christmas PD.

Hicks
12-21-2004, 10:38 PM
I'm glad you cleared that up, JO7. :)

JOneal7
12-21-2004, 11:16 PM
n/p hicks :)