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avoidingtheclowns
02-11-2013, 04:49 PM
NYET THE NETS




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Game Time Start: 7:00 PM EST
Where: The Fieldhouse, Indianapolis, IN
Officials: S. Wright, E. Lewis, V. Palmer

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Season Records: (W-L)




:xpacers:

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http://i49.tinypic.com/e1589d.png<center>Home: 20-4
East: 19-11</center>



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http://i49.tinypic.com/e1589d.pnghttp://i49.tinypic.com/e1589d.png<center>29-22</center>
http://i49.tinypic.com/e1589d.png<center>Away: 11-12
East: 22-11</center>

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Upcoming Games:



<center>Feb 13</center>
<center>Feb 20</center>
<center>Feb 22</center>
<center>Feb 23</center>



vs :bobcats:


vs :knicks:


vs :xpistons:


at :xpistons:




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http://www.nba.com/tvc/image/assets/wordmarks/IND_wordmark.png Projected Starting Lineup:



<center>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/roy_hibbert.jpg</center>
<center>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/david_west.jpg</center>
<center>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/paul_george.jpg</center>
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<center>HIBBERT</center>
<center>WEST</center>
<center>GEORGE</center>
<center>STEPHENSON</center>
<center>HILL</center>



http://www.nba.com/tvc/image/assets/wordmarks/BKN_wordmark.png Projected Starting Lineup:



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<center>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/reggie_evans.jpg</center>
<center>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/gerald_wallace.jpg</center>
<center>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/joe_johnson.jpg</center>
<center>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/cj_watson.jpg</center>


<center>LOPEZ</center>
<center>EVANS</center>
<center>WALLACE</center>
<center>JOHNSON</center>
<center>WATSON</center>

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PACERS
Danny Granger - left knee tendinosis (out)
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NETS
Deron Williams - ankle tendinitis (out)



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Perpetually Disappointing Trader Joe Minimally Relevant Video:



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Semi-Relevant Video:



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Eight Points Nine Seconds:




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Tim Donahue: The One That Got Away, Pacers Fall to Raptors in OT

Not too long ago, the NBA world was buzzing about how the Indiana Pacers could ride
Roy Hibbert and David West to victory over the seemingly invincible Miami Heat. In a
league where teams are getting smaller by the minute, a squad with a 7’2” center and
a bruising power forward presented a massive threat.

In my younger days, I read a great deal of Tom Clancy. It was in those books where I
was introduced to the concept that the most competent people – the most trusted –
were also the ones in the position to fail the most spectacularly.

That’s what happened tonight to the Indiana Pacers.

“I just can’t be that careless at the end of the game with the ball. I second-guessed
myself, hesitated a little bit, and threw it short. We just didn’t close the game the
right way, and so, we didn’t get the win. They made the plays to close the game, and
we didn’t.”

That’s David West describing the pivotal play in the Pacers’ 100-98 overtime loss to
the Toronto Raptors. Up two with six seconds left, Indy just needed to get the ball
inbounds and hit free throws. That’s when West made an ill-advised attempt to hit a
streaking Lance Stephenson that Rudy Gay picked off. An Amir Johnson putback at the
buzzer got Toronto five extra minutes.

That play will get the focus, with good reason. However, it was far from the only way
the Pacers cost themselves a win. In a two-point overtime loss, the Pacers made 19
turnovers (including two in the last minute of OT), gave up 27 second chance points,
and missed 9 of 28 free throws.

Late in a rocky fourth quarter, back-to-back threes by Paul George and George Hill
looked to have given Indiana enough altitude to take the win. But they just couldn’t
close it out. The Pacers led for most of the game, but it never felt like they really
controlled it.

West could feel...CONTINUE READING AT 8p9s (http://www.eightpointsnineseconds.com/2013/02/post-game-grades-the-one-that-got-away-pacers-fall-to-raptors-in-ot-100-98/)


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The Brooklyn Game:




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Will Rauch: The fallacy of "the coaching bump"

P.J. Carlesimo is no stranger to mid-season firings. The Thunder axed him in 2008
after a 1-12 start and replaced him with current coach Scott Brooks, who rallied the
young troops for a 22-47 record the rest of the way. Seven games is a small sample
size, but if Carlesimo really is the Nets interim coach for the immediate future (as
management has repeated ad nauseam), he may well be on his way to the so-called
“bump” a new coach gets when taking over the reins of a team in disarray.

But is this coaching bump real? Luckily, the coaching carousel of the NBA offers a
large sample size to pore over. Of the 30 current NBA coaches, only Gregg Popovich
(Spurs ‘96), George Karl (Nuggets ’05) and Doc Rivers (Celtics ’94) have start dates
of more than five years ago. Off-season coaching changes are a far different animal
than mid-season switches, so I'll focus only on the recent history of in-season
changes to evaluate the “bump”.

Dating back to the 2010-11 season, there have been ten in-season coaching changes,
up to and including Avery Johnson and Mike Brown’s firings this year. Mike D’Antoni’s
tenure in Los Angeles has gotten off to a shaky start, but it is far too early to tell if
that move will work. Sticking to a sample with a full season of results, below are the
eight new coaches from 10-11 and 11-12 and how they fared the rest of the way:


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It doesn’t take Nate Silver to see these results carry more noise than signal. The
reality is that most of these teams were bad, regardless of the coach. The Jazz had
the only winning record on the list before the switch, and the terrible record post-
change had more to do with the turmoil of Jerry Sloan’s abrupt departure and the
subsequent trading of Deron Williams than anything Ty Corbin did wrong. (Ty Corbin
remains the Jazz coach today.)

Nets fans might notice some familiar names thrown around as replacements for
Avery Johnson on the fired side of the list. For better or worse, the talent pool that
front offices choose to select from is often small, with fired coaches routinely being
hired by new teams like an episode of Coach Swap.

Frank Vogel and Mike Woodson represent the two most successful interim coaches on
the list. The 39-year-old Vogel, who started as a video assistant for Rick Patino’s
Celtics (I'm not saying, but I'm just saying), took over the Pacers for Jim O’Brien, a
fiery coach that came under fire for inconsistent rotations and squandering a promising
early season record (sound familiar?) in January 2010. Vogel led the young Pacers to a
playoff berth, something O’Brien wasn’t able to do in his four-year tenure. The first
time head coach then followed it up with a successful 2011-12 campaign, nearly
upsetting the eventual world champion Miami Heat in the Eastern Conference
Semifinals. He recently earned a contract extension.

Woodson took over...CONTINUE READING AT THE BROOKLYN GAME (http://thebrooklyngame.com/looking-at-the-coaching-bump/)

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140 Characters of (Non-PD) Coverage



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Pacers
Mike Wells @MikeWellsNBA (https://twitter.com/#!/MikeWellsNBA)
Jared Wade @8pts9secs (https://twitter.com/#!/8pts9secs)
Tim Donahue @TimDonahue8p9s (https://twitter.com/#!/TimDonahue8p9s)
Tom Lewis @indycornrows (https://twitter.com/#!/IndyCornrows)


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Nets
Tim Bontemps @TimBontemps (https://twitter.com/TimBontemps)
Colin Stephenson @Ledger_Knets (https://twitter.com/Ledger_Knets)
Nets Daily @NetsDaily (https://twitter.com/NetsDaily)
The Brooklyn Game @TheBKGame (https://twitter.com/TheBKGame)


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Dr. Awesome
02-11-2013, 04:51 PM
I really wanted to see how we stacked up to them when they are healthy. Bummed about Williams missing.

Trader Joe
02-11-2013, 05:04 PM
Violet??? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

BillS
02-11-2013, 05:16 PM
Violet??? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

:suicide:

LG33
02-11-2013, 05:37 PM
This game strikes me as a win-lose situation.

Dr. Awesome
02-11-2013, 05:53 PM
Violet??? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Oh, we lost.

She HATES us, always has. Game over.

BillS
02-11-2013, 05:55 PM
Oh, we lost.

She HATES us, always has. Game over.

No, I don't think bias is the issue. Competence, on the other hand...

Cousy47
02-11-2013, 06:07 PM
No, I don't think bias is the issue. Competence, on the other hand...

One thing we know for sure, if Violet or Heywoode are reffing, we get no close calls.

rock747
02-11-2013, 06:09 PM
Surprise early appearance from Danny Granger?!?! ;)

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 07:32 PM
Well, it is a must win game ;)

TheDon
02-11-2013, 07:42 PM
whoever flops the most will win tonight, violet loves her some charging calls

Heisenberg
02-11-2013, 07:49 PM
Brooke's grown on me

yoadknux
02-11-2013, 07:57 PM
Damn it... Not Palmer... we're screwed

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Violet+Palmer+Indiana+Pacers+v+Boston+Celtics+hueN BSE8wXCl.jpg

Sparhawk
02-11-2013, 08:01 PM
Pacers need to take advantage of the pg spot tonight. Hill needs to take it to Watson all night.

picasso
02-11-2013, 08:04 PM
Pacers need to take advantage of the pg spot tonight. Hill needs to take it to Watson all night.

Took a screen shot of this.

http://www.backstagegfx.com/forum/uploads/U256-1360627702.png

Yonthan
02-11-2013, 08:04 PM
oh i didn't know until just now: West and Paul George got the same number of points and rebounds this season. (althought Paul played one game less.)

boombaby1987
02-11-2013, 08:05 PM
29-2 huh chris?

Heisenberg
02-11-2013, 08:07 PM
get that stuff outta here Lopez

boombaby1987
02-11-2013, 08:08 PM
Roy is pumped up!

Mr.Hinds
02-11-2013, 08:08 PM
It's a block party, and Lopez, you're invited.

NapTonius Monk
02-11-2013, 08:08 PM
Brooke's grown on me
Lopez or Olzendam? :pillow:

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 08:11 PM
Let's hope that David is ok.

The Future
02-11-2013, 08:11 PM
Hibbert is getting abused, so overrated defensively.

Btw, what happened to West?

NapTonius Monk
02-11-2013, 08:12 PM
Hibbert is getting abused, so overrated defensively.

Btw, what happened to West?Lopez isn't garbage.

greyhound80
02-11-2013, 08:13 PM
Well, this couldn't have started out any worse.
D West hit in the eye.
Roy can't make a shot. Just tosses it in the general direction. My god he just missed a one footer!!

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 08:13 PM
Lance :happydanc

boombaby1987
02-11-2013, 08:13 PM
Hibbert....

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 08:14 PM
Hibbert is getting abused, so overrated defensively.


What?

boombaby1987
02-11-2013, 08:14 PM
Damn Roy just go up strong and dunk it...

boombaby1987
02-11-2013, 08:15 PM
What?

People once again seem to forget that our main defensive weakness is bigs who can shoot the midrange jumper. Have you seen Lopez back Hibbert down and score yet?

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 08:16 PM
People once again seem to forget that our main defensive weakness is bigs who can shoot the midrange jumper. Have you seen Lopez back Hibbert down and score yet?

Our defense is supposed to let them take that shot so of course. I was dumbfounded by his comment.

The Future
02-11-2013, 08:16 PM
People once again seem to forget that our main defensive weakness is bigs who can shoot the midrange jumper. Have you seen Lopez back Hibbert down and score yet?

Yes, he's one of the best help defenders in the league.

Doesn't make him a well rounded defensive center.

greyhound80
02-11-2013, 08:18 PM
If Roy keeps shooting, we will lose.

boombaby1987
02-11-2013, 08:18 PM
Paul George follow your ****ing shot.

Magic P
02-11-2013, 08:19 PM
Roy misses so many close shots it is sickening

greyhound80
02-11-2013, 08:20 PM
Nice shooting guys.

boombaby1987
02-11-2013, 08:20 PM
Hibbert is kicking himself for good reason.

Magic P
02-11-2013, 08:21 PM
Paul George follow your ****ing shot.

You're mad at PG and not Hibbert?

boombaby1987
02-11-2013, 08:21 PM
At least Roy didn't mentally check out. Glad to see him stay aggresive.

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 08:21 PM
Yes, he's one of the best help defenders in the league.

Doesn't make him a well rounded defensive center.

He's not an athletic help defender. Hibbert is a fundamental rim protector and a very good post defender.

He struggles in PnR defense but that's his only defensive weakness.

BlueNGold
02-11-2013, 08:21 PM
Hibbert is playing with aggression. Perhaps he's been on PD the last couple days...;<)

The Future
02-11-2013, 08:21 PM
Granger, please come back ASAP!

Offense is PITIFUL.

Heisenberg
02-11-2013, 08:21 PM
You're mad at PG and not Hibbert?Roy's not the only player on the team that makes mistakes

boombaby1987
02-11-2013, 08:22 PM
Hibbert....


Damn Roy just go up strong and dunk it...


Hibbert is kicking himself for good reason.


You're mad at PG and not Hibbert?

...

LG33
02-11-2013, 08:23 PM
I guess we really need David West out there, huh?

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 08:25 PM
PG seems to be forcing it a bit :/

Heisenberg
02-11-2013, 08:26 PM
Paul George is 1-7 MAN THAT GUY IS AWFUL

The Future
02-11-2013, 08:26 PM
Tough start for George, 1-7.

He really needs to start improving his FG%.

LG33
02-11-2013, 08:26 PM
I can't believe this is happening.

IrishPacer
02-11-2013, 08:26 PM
Aggressive start or not, Hibbert surely has to put that back.

Awful quarter in general.

greyhound80
02-11-2013, 08:26 PM
Get him the F out of the game Frank!!!!
And PGeorge needs to get with it also

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 08:27 PM
Paul George is 1-7 MAN THAT GUY IS AWFUL

Just trade him. He is literally stealing money ;)

ejwallace
02-11-2013, 08:27 PM
Can we all agree that we don't need another trade Roy thread this evening???

boombaby1987
02-11-2013, 08:28 PM
Get him the F out of the game Frank!!!!
And PGeorge needs to get with it also

You are Hibbert's harshest critic.

Heisenberg
02-11-2013, 08:28 PM
Can we all agree that we don't need another trade Roy thread this evening???

give it a couple minutes, that's what this thread'll be

vnzla81
02-11-2013, 08:30 PM
PenderSTAR is in, great......

Heisenberg
02-11-2013, 08:30 PM
Pendergraph in, still no West

boombaby1987
02-11-2013, 08:30 PM
God damn it D-West I thought you were probable.

LG33
02-11-2013, 08:31 PM
Augustin's lay-up attempt was awful.

ejwallace
02-11-2013, 08:31 PM
Here comes Green

greyhound80
02-11-2013, 08:31 PM
If we lose to a DWilliams-less Nets team AT HOME, this will go down as the worst loss of Frank Vogel era. We could have been one game out of 2nd place if we just take the ball OOB correctly on Fri. Now we look like we are taking this team lightly and OMG Gerald Green is in.
I'm done watching.

vnzla81
02-11-2013, 08:31 PM
Oh no Green is in........

boombaby1987
02-11-2013, 08:31 PM
Are we really ****ing trying to post Pendergraph?

Heisenberg
02-11-2013, 08:32 PM
well...this'll be an interesting lineup

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 08:32 PM
Pendy :happydanc

boombaby1987
02-11-2013, 08:32 PM
If we lose to a DWilliams-less Nets team AT HOME, this will go down as the worst loss of Frank Vogel era. We could have been one game out of 2nd place if we just take the ball OOB correctly on Fri. Now we look like we are taking this team lightly and OMG Gerald Green is in.
I'm done watching.


Seriously just get out of the thread. This is such a moronic statement.

rock747
02-11-2013, 08:32 PM
Pendergraphinn!

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 08:32 PM
Pendy again :happydanc

Nice pass, OJ.

CableKC
02-11-2013, 08:32 PM
Wow...first time I have seen Pendy hit 1....much less 2...jumpshots.

ejwallace
02-11-2013, 08:33 PM
Pendy is almost our leading scorer this evening....

vnzla81
02-11-2013, 08:33 PM
That group on the floor makes me sick.

Gold
02-11-2013, 08:34 PM
Pendergraph is gonna get us back in this one. lol.

greyhound80
02-11-2013, 08:34 PM
Ha, Green just took four steps!! Great player!

CableKC
02-11-2013, 08:34 PM
Also....first time in a long time where none of the core Starters are on the floor with the 2nd unit.

DJ/OJ/Green/Pendy/Mahinmi.

And Pendy hits yet another Jumpshot...

ejwallace
02-11-2013, 08:34 PM
Pendy and Roy leading in scoring this evening.....

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 08:34 PM
Well, I'll take 3/4 FGs from Pendy.

vnzla81
02-11-2013, 08:34 PM
Pendegraph lol

rock747
02-11-2013, 08:34 PM
Brooklyn gettin pendergraphed

CableKC
02-11-2013, 08:34 PM
Ha, Green just took four steps!! Great player!
Was that Green or OJ?

greyhound80
02-11-2013, 08:34 PM
That group on the floor makes me sick.

Embarrassing

Heisenberg
02-11-2013, 08:34 PM
the hell was that shot DJ

boombaby1987
02-11-2013, 08:35 PM
Raise your hand if you picked Pendy to be the spark off our bench.

greyhound80
02-11-2013, 08:35 PM
Pendy and Roy leading in scoring this evening.....

Yeah but Pendy hasn't taken 12 shots already to get his.

The Future
02-11-2013, 08:35 PM
Pendergraph should give Hibbert some shooting lessons in practice.

Anthem
02-11-2013, 08:35 PM
If we lose to a DWilliams-less Nets team AT HOME, this will go down as the worst loss of Frank Vogel era.
:laugh: Come on, dude, you can't be serious. It's the beginning of the second quarter and we're down by 5. It's not the end of the world... it's not even the end of the half.

vnzla81
02-11-2013, 08:35 PM
Pendergraph's value would never be this high ....

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 08:35 PM
God damn it D-West I thought you were probable.

He is probable not definite. He could return in the second half.

Magic P
02-11-2013, 08:35 PM
I think we've found our new starting center

ejwallace
02-11-2013, 08:36 PM
So is West out??? I thought they said he was probable...

Anthem
02-11-2013, 08:36 PM
Pendergraph should give Hibbert some shooting lessons in practice.
Ironically, Roy's been doing pretty well with his jumper.

Ace E.Anderson
02-11-2013, 08:36 PM
Sooooo Danny...how's the knee?

greyhound80
02-11-2013, 08:36 PM
Starters (except for West) need to sit for awhile and remove their heads from their asses. That was a pathetic lack of focus. What did Hill do? I didn't even notice him.

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 08:36 PM
Pendergraph should give Hibbert some shooting lessons in practice.

Do you want Roy to shoot 16 foot jumpers? Because I don't.

I just want Hibbert to finish better at the rim.

greyhound80
02-11-2013, 08:37 PM
:laugh: Come on, dude, you can't be serious. It's the beginning of the second quarter and we're down by 5. It's not the end of the world... it's not even the end of the half.


I said IF WE LOSE. I didn't say it's over.

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 08:37 PM
Pendy is our leading scorer :laugh:

ejwallace
02-11-2013, 08:37 PM
Looks like Pendy's gunna get bumped up in the rotation....

Gold
02-11-2013, 08:37 PM
PENDERGRAPH MAKIN HIS CASE FOR SIXTH MAN OF THE YEAR

pacersgroningen
02-11-2013, 08:37 PM
I guess this shows why the guys were looking for Pendy in garbage time a couple of games this season. Small sample until now, but if he keeps it going, why not continue playing him tonight?

Heisenberg
02-11-2013, 08:38 PM
Carl Erskine seems pretty awesome for 86 years old

rock747
02-11-2013, 08:38 PM
Orlando Johnson and Jeff Pendergraph have been dreaming of this moment together all season.

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 08:38 PM
OJ and Pendy :happydanc

The Future
02-11-2013, 08:38 PM
Do you want Roy to shoot 16 foot jumpers? Because I don't.

I just want Hibbert to finish better at the rim.

At this point, Hibberts outside shooting may be better then his inside scoring...

greyhound80
02-11-2013, 08:38 PM
Who just made that shot? Don't know because we're interviewing Carl during action.
BTW, look how much better we look with Ian in there. It's obvious.

LG33
02-11-2013, 08:39 PM
I guess we don't have to worry about re-signing David West this offseason...

vnzla81
02-11-2013, 08:39 PM
I wonder if Pendergraph and Humpries are related.

Anthem
02-11-2013, 08:39 PM
Oh, that was OJ? I honestly thought it was Gerald.

greyhound80
02-11-2013, 08:40 PM
George, Hibbert, Tyler 4 for 22 so far.

Heisenberg
02-11-2013, 08:40 PM
West questionable now, screw you Brook Lopez

rock747
02-11-2013, 08:40 PM
Holy ****ing pendergraph!

Heisenberg
02-11-2013, 08:41 PM
HA, do your thing Pendergraph

vnzla81
02-11-2013, 08:41 PM
At this point, Hibberts outside shooting may be better then his inside scoring...

I have been saying this forever, they should make Roy a jump shooter.

Anthem
02-11-2013, 08:41 PM
DJ's threes are awful

WHAT A MOVE BY PENDY!

greyhound80
02-11-2013, 08:41 PM
Trade Hansbrough!
Play Pendy!

IrishPacer
02-11-2013, 08:41 PM
Is this the first time that Pendergraph has been in double digits for points?

NapTonius Monk
02-11-2013, 08:41 PM
PENDERGRAPH! You can't stop him! You can only hope to contain him!

Ace E.Anderson
02-11-2013, 08:41 PM
PENDY!!

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 08:41 PM
Pendy :-o

Gold
02-11-2013, 08:41 PM
On the back of Pendergraph, Pacers back in this one! lol

IrishPacer
02-11-2013, 08:42 PM
Who would have thought that Pendergraph would be 10 & 5 in the first 6 minutes of the 2nd quarter haha.

Anthem
02-11-2013, 08:42 PM
You know all the times when we've gotten lit up by some random scrub who goes for a career high against us?

This is what it feels like to be on the other side of that equation.

D0NT SH0OT ME
02-11-2013, 08:42 PM
Pendergraph is averaging 50 points, 25 rebounds, and 10 fouls per 36 minutes right now.

vnzla81
02-11-2013, 08:42 PM
Now I'm worry about what kind of extension Pendergraph is going to be asking for, max?

Ace E.Anderson
02-11-2013, 08:43 PM
I have been saying this forever, they should make Roy a jump shooter.

You're thinking of him being Ibaka....

Given the fact he'll always struggle to be a finisher inside, you may not be too far fetched

owl
02-11-2013, 08:43 PM
Trade Hansbrough!
Play Pendy!

Pendergraph is way more active a nd mobile than Tyler.

Heisenberg
02-11-2013, 08:45 PM
wonder if Green's getting minutes to remind the Nets of him

Cactus Jax
02-11-2013, 08:45 PM
Pendergraph for Lebron...yes/no?

vnzla81
02-11-2013, 08:45 PM
Great job Green(Green)

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 08:45 PM
Is this the first time that Pendergraph has been in double digits for points?

As a Pacer he had 10 points (5/10) in the second to last game of the season against Detroit in 2011-2012.

As a Blazer he had 11 points (4/5, 3/4 FT) in the 4th game of his career and 23 points (11/15) in the last game of the 09-10 season.

greyhound80
02-11-2013, 08:46 PM
quit jacking jumpers!!! get to the basket or FT line!

cgg
02-11-2013, 08:46 PM
I like how Evans stands out of bounds on offense.

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 08:47 PM
At this point, Hibberts outside shooting may be better then his inside scoring...

Untrue. You are free to check his shot chart :)

D0NT SH0OT ME
02-11-2013, 08:47 PM
I know everyone wants to ride the Penderwave right now, but we can't run our offense through him. That's two possessions now that have ended in poor shot attempts because Jeff isn't experienced enough to have the offense run through him. They need to run some weak side stuff to get him open for some more mid-range jumpers.

Mr.Hinds
02-11-2013, 08:48 PM
Pendergraph is the second coming! Give him PGs allstar bid.

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 08:48 PM
I have been saying this forever, they should make Roy a jump shooter.

And you were disproved by his short chart. It's the jump shots that are bringing his FG% down.

vnzla81
02-11-2013, 08:49 PM
I know everyone wants to ride the Penderwave right now, but we can't run our offense through him. That's two possessions now that have ended in poor shot attempts because Jeff isn't experienced enough to have the offense run through him. They need to run some weak side stuff to get him open for some more mid-range jumpers.

Who cares? just give the ball to Pendergraph and GTFO of the way ;)

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 08:50 PM
Roy :happydanc

D0NT SH0OT ME
02-11-2013, 08:50 PM
And you were disproven by his short chart. It's the jump shots that are bringing his FG% down.

That is not true at all. Roy is shooting a career high from his jump shots. Roy's at rim FG% is what is bringing his entire shooting percentage down. If you don't believe me I could go find the link for you.

Anthem
02-11-2013, 08:50 PM
I knew Hibs was gonna hit that the moment he started his move. You can tell from the way he initiates whether it's gonna be good or not.

IrishPacer
02-11-2013, 08:50 PM
Pendergraph feeding the post and doing it all.

Gold
02-11-2013, 08:51 PM
I know everyone wants to ride the Penderwave right now, but we can't run our offense through him. That's two possessions now that have ended in poor shot attempts because Jeff isn't experienced enough to have the offense run through him. They need to run some weak side stuff to get him open for some more mid-range jumpers.


Please don't make ridiculous suggestions about our star player.

Heisenberg
02-11-2013, 08:51 PM
Nets offense stinks

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 08:51 PM
That is not true at all. Roy is shooting a career high from his jump shots. Roy's at rim FG% is what is bringing his entire shooting percentage down. If you don't believe me I could go find the link for you.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hibbero01/shooting/2013/

Jump Shot: 47 / 177 26.6%

IrishPacer
02-11-2013, 08:52 PM
Is it just me who can't hear the ref's whistle?

pacer4ever
02-11-2013, 08:53 PM
That duck-in pass from Pendy is the reason I have wanted him to play. He moves teh ball 15x better than Tyler I mean that isnt saying much really lol.


That is the reason liked him at Arz St as a future role player. He was very selfless and played his role with James Harden.


I cant stand having a guy play that isn't a willing passer like Tyler just pisses me off.

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 08:55 PM
That Taylor lay-up was a bit too easy for my liking.

vnzla81
02-11-2013, 08:55 PM
Nets offense stinks

I agree, I don't know wtf they are trying to do.

vnzla81
02-11-2013, 08:56 PM
That duck-in pass from Pendy is the reason I have wanted him to play. He moves teh ball 15x better than Tyler I mean that isnt saying much really lol.


That is the reason liked him at Arz St as a future role player. He was very selfless and played his role with James Harden.


Come on now.

D0NT SH0OT ME
02-11-2013, 08:57 PM
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hibbero01/shooting/2013/

Jump Shot: 47 / 177 26.6%

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shooting.cgi?player_id=hibbero01&year_id=2013&shot_type=JUMP_SHOT

The shots listed from 3 to 10 feet are not "jump shots". Those are all of the shots that the website does not have a classification for, such as a putback after an offensive rebound. If you want to see what percentage Hibbert is shooting on his jump shots look at the percentages from 10 feet and further away from the basket. Those are career highs for him.

pacer4ever
02-11-2013, 08:57 PM
Come on now.

play him as much as Tyler has gotten to play and I am confident he will prove to be a better player. I have been preaching that since the preseason and he was finally healthy again for the first time since tearing his knee up.

greyhound80
02-11-2013, 08:58 PM
That duck-in pass from Pendy is the reason I have wanted him to play. He moves teh ball 15x better than Tyler I mean that isnt saying much really lol.


That is the reason liked him at Arz St as a future role player. He was very selfless and played his role with James Harden.


I cant stand having a guy play that isn't a willing passer like Tyler just pisses me off.

Ha! Pendy passed the ball more tonight already than Tyler does in a month.

greyhound80
02-11-2013, 08:59 PM
Big shot by GHill!

pacer4ever
02-11-2013, 09:00 PM
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shooting.cgi?player_id=hibbero01&year_id=2013&shot_type=JUMP_SHOT

The shots listed from 3 to 10 feet are not "jump shots". Those are all of the shots that the website does not have a classification for, such as a putback after an offensive rebound. If you want to see what percentage Hibbert is shooting on his jump shots look at the percentages from 10 feet and further away from the basket. Those are career highs for him.

http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Roy%20Hibbert


That is a better site for shot % based on distance. Pretty staggering how bad Roy has been from 3-9 seem like a blind guy could throw it up and shot 40% from there.

vnzla81
02-11-2013, 09:02 PM
play him as much as Tyler has gotten to play and I am confident he will prove to be a better player. I have been preaching that since the preseason and he was finally healthy again for the first time since tearing his knee up.

I don't buy it.

owl
02-11-2013, 09:03 PM
Needless to say the PF spot needs improvement. Behind West that is. I could see Tyler being not here next year. Just too limited.

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 09:03 PM
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shooting.cgi?player_id=hibbero01&year_id=2013&shot_type=JUMP_SHOT

The shots listed from 3 to 10 feet are not "jump shots". Those are all of the shots that the website does not have a classification for, such as a putback after an offensive rebound. If you want to see what percentage Hibbert is shooting on his jump shots look at the percentages from 10 feet and further away from the basket. Those are career highs for him.

I see. Why doesn't it put put backs in the lay-yp (or the dunk) column, though? I ask because Chandler has tons of putbacks but very few jump shots or shots further than 3 feet from the rim.

I figured that it would include jump hooks or sweeping hooks and that could lower his % but I never thought about put backs.

There is an interesting fact in that list, by the way. 18 of his 19 makes from 16 feet and further are assisted. Maybe if we tried to assist Hibbert more he would also shoot a better FG%? ;)

ejwallace
02-11-2013, 09:04 PM
You know Larry's sitting in the woods smiling after watching Pendy play tonight....

Heisenberg
02-11-2013, 09:04 PM
You know Larry's sitting in the woods smiling after watching Pendy play tonight....

Pendergraph was 100% Pritchard. I can't prove that but I'm sure it's true.

D0NT SH0OT ME
02-11-2013, 09:06 PM
http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Roy%20Hibbert


That is a better sight for shot % based on distance. Pretty staggering how bad Roy has been from 3-9 seem like a blind guy could throw it up and shot 40% from there.

Considering he is 7'2'' I find it pretty depressing. The thing is he has been poor from that area his entire career. I was looking at that website a week or two ago and I saw his FG% there, then went and compared it to other centers. I think everyone I compared him too was shooting at least 20% better from that area, which (judging by the shot charts) is namely from putbacks after offensive rebounds. You would think anyone over 7 feet tall would thrive in that area. I think that Roy just doesn't trust his shots from that area and is already physically preparing himself for the miss before he even releases the ball.

gummy
02-11-2013, 09:08 PM
Pendergraph was 100% Pritchard. I can't prove that but I'm sure it's true.

:laugh:

Heisenberg
02-11-2013, 09:10 PM
:laugh:
I have sources I can't talk about. Or something.

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 09:11 PM
Ι think that Roy just doesn't trust his shots from that area and is already physically preparing himself for the miss before he even releases the ball.

That could be true.

Anthem
02-11-2013, 09:12 PM
I have sources I can't talk about. Or something.
I thought it was common knowledge, actually.

boombaby1987
02-11-2013, 09:12 PM
How does Kris Humphries know Danny Granger?

Heisenberg
02-11-2013, 09:13 PM
I thought it was common knowledge, actually.

It's a commonly held belief I guess, don't think it's ever actually been reported or anything

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 09:15 PM
Lance :happydanc

Heisenberg
02-11-2013, 09:15 PM
How does Kris Humphries know Danny Granger?

they're friends, they hang out together in LA

vnzla81
02-11-2013, 09:15 PM
Lopez has to be the slowest all star ever after Roy.

Heisenberg
02-11-2013, 09:16 PM
wonder if Frank gives Pendergraph Tyler's minutes in the 2nd half

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 09:16 PM
Two very good moves from Lopez. Although, Lance was the one that fouled him and not Roy.

Anthem
02-11-2013, 09:16 PM
How does Kris Humphries know Danny Granger?
What's this? Did I miss Kris talking about Danny?

Heisenberg
02-11-2013, 09:17 PM
Joe Johnson makes just shy of 20 million dollars

vnzla81
02-11-2013, 09:18 PM
Joe Johnson used to be good.

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 09:19 PM
Paul George looked like Luffy trying to block that shot.

dal9
02-11-2013, 09:20 PM
Now I'm worry about what kind of extension Pendergraph is going to be asking for, max?
No max...he's not anchoring s#!+ out there...

Heisenberg
02-11-2013, 09:20 PM
West looks like he's seein double

TMJ31
02-11-2013, 09:20 PM
Man, David can barely see out there.

greyhound80
02-11-2013, 09:20 PM
Violet is horrible!

Dear Paul, We need you NOW!!!!

Poor DWest. He is having a tough night!!

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 09:21 PM
And West is scratched again. Feels like we're playing the Hawks ;)

rock747
02-11-2013, 09:22 PM
David West and passing don't have a great track record lately

vnzla81
02-11-2013, 09:23 PM
Evan is a guy I wanted the Pacers to get, he makes almost nothing.

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 09:23 PM
Hill :happydanc

Heisenberg
02-11-2013, 09:23 PM
Reggie Evans screaming for the ball, for some reason

TMJ31
02-11-2013, 09:24 PM
Reggie Evans screaming for the ball, for some reason

This has been a really weird game.

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 09:24 PM
By the way, ease up on Paul George, guys. He's a young player. He will have his up and downs. You cannot expect him to score big consistently. He's not Danny Granger ;)

SouthernIndianaFan
02-11-2013, 09:25 PM
David West is the honey badger. He just don't give a ****.

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 09:26 PM
That was not good D, Hill :(

rock747
02-11-2013, 09:26 PM
Is Hibbert being booed?

Anthem
02-11-2013, 09:26 PM
Hibbert, I love ya buddy. But this is painful.

Heisenberg
02-11-2013, 09:27 PM
yeah, finger roll isn't the best choice there Roy

immortality
02-11-2013, 09:27 PM
lol hibbert.

greyhound80
02-11-2013, 09:27 PM
Paul just gave it to the clumsy, unathletic Roy and expected him to make a play. I am completely bewildered.

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 09:27 PM
Are they really booing Roy out there?

boombaby1987
02-11-2013, 09:28 PM
Violet Palmer is such a pushover.

greyhound80
02-11-2013, 09:28 PM
Is Hibbert being booed?

No, Paul for passing to him.

boombaby1987
02-11-2013, 09:28 PM
Are they really booing Roy out there?

Why are you surprised?

vnzla81
02-11-2013, 09:29 PM
JJ still has the potential of getting hot.

SouthernIndianaFan
02-11-2013, 09:29 PM
Poke his eye out!

Mr_Smith
02-11-2013, 09:30 PM
Whats our record for violet palmer games??

rock747
02-11-2013, 09:30 PM
I think Hibberts problem is mental. Booing him will not help the problem.

vnzla81
02-11-2013, 09:30 PM
That Taylor guy sucks a**

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 09:30 PM
Why are you surprised?

Because Area 55 exists.

Dr. Hibbert
02-11-2013, 09:30 PM
Christ, Roy, you're 7'2". Enough with the finger rolls. Dunk the friggin' thing.

ejwallace
02-11-2013, 09:31 PM
So is Young in the dog house now??

boombaby1987
02-11-2013, 09:31 PM
Because Area 55 exists.

Maybe this is the motivation he needs? Everything else clearly isn't working. I could shoot 50% so easily if I was in Roy's position.

ThA HoyA
02-11-2013, 09:32 PM
Is doubting granger is going to help a lot still a thing?

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 09:32 PM
Good time out. We have to get something going.

Heisenberg
02-11-2013, 09:32 PM
I could shoot 50% so easily if I was in Roy's position.

...

focused444
02-11-2013, 09:32 PM
sleepwalking through another nba game...

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 09:33 PM
Maybe this is the motivation he needs? Everything else clearly isn't working. I could shoot 50% so easily if I was in Roy's position.

I just don't think that this is the motivation he needs.

boombaby1987
02-11-2013, 09:34 PM
...

IF I am in Hibbert's body and have his skills, yes I could shoot 50%. Its all mental.

focused444
02-11-2013, 09:34 PM
im praying that granger is what roy has been missing...i know its a reach

Heisenberg
02-11-2013, 09:35 PM
IF I am in Hibbert's body and have his skills, yes I could shoot 50%. Its all mental.

ok

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 09:35 PM
Lanceeeee :happydanc:happydanc:happydanc

focused444
02-11-2013, 09:35 PM
Lance's glances, glares, and stares are quickly becoming one of my favorite things in the world

boombaby1987
02-11-2013, 09:35 PM
ok

You clearly disagree. You think its physical?

greyhound80
02-11-2013, 09:36 PM
I think Hibberts problem is mental. Booing him will not help the problem.

Then he needs to grow up.
You can't get 54 million, suck in almost every game, and expect to be showered with roses.

Heisenberg
02-11-2013, 09:36 PM
You clearly disagree. You think its physical?
no. I think this discussion is silly.

greyhound80
02-11-2013, 09:36 PM
Honest question.

Do you think this Nets team is any good?

boombaby1987
02-11-2013, 09:37 PM
Man Lopez is such a punk.

Mr_Smith
02-11-2013, 09:37 PM
Can anybody stop lopez??

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 09:37 PM
Bad foul, PG :(

boombaby1987
02-11-2013, 09:38 PM
It was an 8 second violation I thought. Thats why the pressure was so heavy.

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 09:38 PM
Can anybody stop lopez??

Hibbert.

Dr. Hibbert
02-11-2013, 09:39 PM
This has just been a poor, poor effort this quarter. From everyone, pretty much.

Anthem
02-11-2013, 09:39 PM
Is doubting granger is going to help a lot still a thing?
I don't see how it was ever a thing.

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 09:39 PM
Nice play, guys :)

greyhound80
02-11-2013, 09:39 PM
We are not winning this game.
Paul has given up trying to shoot.
DJ tried another one of those stupid layups.
We might pull it out if our bench plays the rest of the game.

PacersHomer
02-11-2013, 09:40 PM
This game just sucks. Win or lose it's bad basketball.

Anthem
02-11-2013, 09:41 PM
So... Penderwall to start the 4th?

Gold
02-11-2013, 09:41 PM
Paul George is killing us by being a non-factor right now.

Anthem
02-11-2013, 09:42 PM
I love hearing Tyler during the breaks when the commercials are supposed to be playing.

"Gall, this offense is just horrific."

The Future
02-11-2013, 09:42 PM
Lol

"Gosh, this offense is horrific."

Honestly, we need to win this game, Nets would have 23 losses, Pacers only 20.

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 09:43 PM
Come on, guys. Come on. We have to win this game.

Leggoooooooooo :happydanc:happydanc:happydanc

Anthem
02-11-2013, 09:44 PM
So, let's review.

Augustin: 0-5
Tyler: 0-4
PG: 1-9
West: 1-5
Roy: 4-15

How are we within 4 points?

rock747
02-11-2013, 09:44 PM
Paul George going to show up?

boombaby1987
02-11-2013, 09:44 PM
Paul is just killing us.

Anthem
02-11-2013, 09:45 PM
So, let's review.

Augustin: 0-5
Tyler: 0-4
PG: 1-9
West: 1-5
Roy: 4-15

How are we within 4 points?
It's interesting... Roy's actually shooting the best percentage of anybody on that list.

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 09:45 PM
Paul, it's a home game.

You're hitting good here normally :(

Anthem
02-11-2013, 09:45 PM
And just like that, a 7-point game. Get into it, guys, or this thing can get away from you.

rock747
02-11-2013, 09:45 PM
Run the offense through Pendergraph

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 09:45 PM
Pendy :happydanc

Anthem
02-11-2013, 09:46 PM
So... Penderwall to start the 4th?
Oh yeah.

Cactus Jax
02-11-2013, 09:46 PM
Most Valuable Pendergraph!

vnzla81
02-11-2013, 09:46 PM
Just give it to Penrgraph he is our hero tonight.

Anthem
02-11-2013, 09:46 PM
Paul having a hard time with Wallace. But he'd be abusing Marshon right now, given the option.

D0NT SH0OT ME
02-11-2013, 09:46 PM
Blatch just took about 5 steps without a dribble, right in front of an official.

rock747
02-11-2013, 09:46 PM
what is Paul doing? dreaming about all star break?

Nuntius
02-11-2013, 09:47 PM
Wallace getting around PG? :-o

Mr_Smith
02-11-2013, 09:48 PM
The fight and effort just aint there tonight, this game is over

Heisenberg
02-11-2013, 09:49 PM
it's a good thing Tyshawn Taylor sucks because he's been getting to the rim on Hill all night