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Randolph_HorseLips
02-08-2013, 12:04 AM
My vote is for A.

CableKC
02-08-2013, 12:16 AM
B for me.....cuz that's when I became a Pacer fan.

Lord Helmet
02-08-2013, 12:25 AM
I was too young to really remember them. If I saw both of them live, hell, it's still hard (TWSS) to choose one, but the shift in emotions would probably do it for me, because with 8pts 9secs you probably didn't think we were going to win and were starting to prepare for the misery of a playoff loss, but then that all goes away and we sneak out a win.

Kind of like the close Colts games during the Peyton era and hell, the Luck era. The Green Bay game was probably one of the more satisfying wins I've been able to watch live and see in person. The Colts comeback against the Pats the 4th and 2 was like that, too. Sorry to derail this to Colts, but I love both teams dearly. I was just able to see those games live and in person.

I'd have to go with 8pts 9secs. If something like that happened in the playoffs this spring, I might have a heart attack.

Randolph_HorseLips
02-08-2013, 12:39 AM
because with 8pts 9secs you probably didn't think we were going to win and were starting to prepare for the misery of a playoff loss, but then that all goes away and we sneak out a win.

Yep. The fact that only minutes before Bill Walton was talking about how "horrible" we were made it that much sweeter.

When Miller hit that second 3 I can remember my dad, who rarely gets off the couch, literally jump up and hurl himself halfway across the room. He shouted at the television like a madman. Our cat, thinking he was angry, raced out of the room. If you didn't know any better you would have thought my dad was trying to cast out demons from the television.

To this day various family members ask me to re-enact it.

I loved the 25 point 4th quarter a little more, though. The entire nation knew who Reggie Miller was after that.

LetsTalkPacers84
02-08-2013, 12:55 AM
Imagine if that 8.9 happened at the end of his 25 pt quarter. :drool:

Lord Helmet
02-08-2013, 01:02 AM
Yep. The fact that only minutes before Bill Walton was talking about how "horrible" we were made it that much sweeter.

When Miller hit that second 3 I can remember my dad, who rarely gets off the couch, literally jump up and hurl himself halfway across the room. He shouted at the television like a madman. Our cat, thinking he was angry, raced out of the room. If you didn't know any better you would have thought my dad was trying to cast out demons from the television.

To this day various family members ask me to re-enact it.

I loved the 25 point 4th quarter a little more, though. The entire nation knew who Reggie Miller was after that.
When something big happens for one of my teams, I'll yell and such, but I seriously just go crazy, I start hitting stuff just to make noise. :laugh:

15th parallel
02-08-2013, 01:26 AM
8p9s is just the most memorable for me. It was the game that really rattled the Knicks in that series. And it elevated Reggie's reputation of clutch-ness to a whole new level. Imagine the faces of the crowd that were already celebrating just before everything happened then all of a sudden after 9 game seconds their hearts were crushed in a stunning defeat. Or the ones who left early thinking they won already 1-0 then after reading the early newspaper the next day they were shocked they were down 0-1. The most magical moment in NBA for me.

Anthem
02-08-2013, 07:42 AM
The 8p9s was epic, no doubt about it. When he hit that, I ran out in the street screaming... and there were other people out in the street screaming.

But the 25 point quarter was awesome in a different way. The build of emotions over that 20 minutes was incredible. It just kept getting better, and better, and better. At first, it was just "Yeah Reg show 'em we won't go down without a fight" and to build all the way to the win was great.

Kid Minneapolis
02-08-2013, 08:31 AM
The 25 fourth quarter was more epic simply because he sustained it for much longer and the drama was much higher. In both games the team was pretty much dead in the water so they were both surprise endings. With the 8 points in 9 seconds we were outplayed for most the game then just he basically stole it. it happened so fast it was kinda hard to take in but it was still awesome. There was quite a bit of luck involved for the 8.9 seconds. I always felt Reggie could've easily been called for a push in the back on the turnover.

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2minutes twoa
02-08-2013, 08:33 AM
8 points in 9 seconds is the most amazing, but the trash talking during the 25 point 4th was glorious! He was saying everything I wished I could've said to the punk a$$ Knicks and their fans! Loved it!!! :)

Unclebuck
02-08-2013, 08:37 AM
I think the 25 points in the 4th quarter is more significant for many reasons.

It was game 5 of the ECF. The 8 pts in 9 seconds was game 1 in the second round.

The 25 in the 4th quarter is what first put Reggie onto the national spotlight. I still remember the next day when he and his performance was the talk of the sports world. The first time is always more significant.

That win put the pacers 1 win away from the NBA Finals. The win the following year put the pacers up 1-0 and they were still 7 wins from the NBA Finals.

I have always thought the 25 point 4th was much better than 8 in 9 seconds.

Also for those who think the 8 in 9 was better. I challenge you to go back now almost 20 years later and watch them both and if you can honestly tell me the 8 in 9 seconds was better, I'll send you a dollar

Smits Happens
02-08-2013, 08:54 AM
Unclebuck just said pretty much everything I was going to say. If you're old enough to remember how bad the Pacers had been for so many years prior to the '94 playoffs, and just how exciting that first playoff run was, just about everything that happened during the '94 playoffs is going to be more memorable and special. Well, up until Game 6 of the ECF. Eight points in nine seconds was a great moment, but those two three-pointers can't compare to the seemingly never-ending barrage of shots Reggie just kept making in that Game 5 fourth quarter.

The Sleeze
02-08-2013, 08:56 AM
For me its the 25 point 4 quarter. I'll prob get crap for this but I still like his "push-off" three against Jordan to beat the Bulls over 8 points 9 seconds. That shot against Chicago tied the series 2-2 and assured that it would return to Indiana. If he misses that its 3-1 going to Chicago.

Like Buck said 8 points 9 sec was Game 1 and even though amazing, just didn't carry the weight of the other 2.

Downtown Bang!
02-08-2013, 08:56 AM
I think the 25 points in the 4th quarter is significant for many reasons.

It was game 5 of the ECF. The 8 pts in 9 seconds was game 1 in the second round.

The 25 in the 4th quarter is what first put Reggie onto the national spotlight. I still remember the next day when he and his performance was the talk of the sports world. The first time is always more significant.

That win put the pacers 1 win away from the NBA Finals. The win the following year put the pacers up 1-0 and they were still 7 wins from the NBA Finals.

I have always thought the 25 point 4th was much better than 8 in 9 seconds.

Also for those who think the 8 in 9 was better. I challenge you to go back now almost 20 years later and watch them both and if you can honestly tell me the 8 in 9 seconds was better, I'll send you a dollar

For me it was also when I knew that Reggie & that team had what it took to be relevant for a long time.

Downtown Bang!
02-08-2013, 08:58 AM
For me its the 25 point 4 quarter. I'll prob get crap for this but I still like his "push-off" three against Jordan to beat the Bulls over 8 points 9 seconds. That shot against Chicago tied the series 2-2 and assured that it would return to Indiana. If he misses that its 3-1 going to Chicago.

Like Buck said 8 points 9 sec was Game 1 and even though amazing, just didn't carry the weight of the other 2.

For me as well. Games 3 & 4 with Reg hobbling around on that bad ankle and hitting late daggers in both games was huge.

Steagles
02-08-2013, 09:03 AM
I love the trash talking, and Reggie going off, but my vote went for 8 points in 9 seconds. Why? Because it was a sucker punch to the groin of Knicks fans. The 25 point fourth quarter was awesome, but it doesn't have the same kick to the crotch feel, he just went off. Scoring a three, stealing the inbound and scoring another 3 to bring a team back and win is something nobody will ever do again in my lifetime (even though I've only seen the games replayed, since I wasn't born yet). High scoring 4th quarters in the clutch will happen again, but never 8 points in 9 seconds.

The Sleeze
02-08-2013, 09:13 AM
I love the trash talking, and Reggie going off, but my vote went for 8 points in 9 seconds. Why? Because it was a sucker punch to the groin of Knicks fans. The 25 point fourth quarter was awesome, but it doesn't have the same kick to the crotch feel, he just went off. Scoring a three, stealing the inbound and scoring another 3 to bring a team back and win is something nobody will ever do again in my lifetime (even though I've only seen the games replayed, since I wasn't born yet). High scoring 4th quarters in the clutch will happen again, but never 8 points in 9 seconds.

Probably the closest thing since was McGrady's 13 points in 33 seconds to beat the Spurs, hitting 4 straight 3's and getting fouled on one.....but that was during the regular season, so it still pales in comparison to Reggie's.

BillS
02-08-2013, 09:46 AM
The 8p9s was the definition of clutch, snatching victory from the jaws of defeat. I remember sliding across the carpet on my knees after the second 3.

The 25 points should be the most important, but the 8p9s had the most impact on me personally.

Trader Joe
02-08-2013, 09:48 AM
The 8p9s is a little more vivid for me, it's that moment if you are a part of my generation where you went out in your diveway right after the game and just took shots for hours and hours. REGGIE FOR 3! BOOM BABY!

The 25 points in a quarter, the 4th no less, is much more impressive from a skill stand point though.

count55
02-08-2013, 09:53 AM
Eight Points, Nine Seconds.

Obviously.

:whistle:

BPump33
02-08-2013, 09:54 AM
Eight Points, Nine Seconds.

Obviously.

:whistle:

What, no link?

Unclebuck
02-08-2013, 10:12 AM
I claim a biased question is skewing the results.

Here is the question

As great as both were, which moment was better

The key word was moment. Although actually the moments that were both better: in order the Smits happens shot and the Reggie push off three against the Bulls.

I would put the Smits happens shot as a better moment because that was at the hbuzzer, Reggie's shot allowed Jordan to have one more shot

flampoo
02-08-2013, 10:51 AM
It's hard to look at an isolated playoff performance without also considering the end result. They're both amazing showings, but I have to give the nod to 8pts 9 secs because the Pacers ended up winning that series.

Granville Fleming
02-08-2013, 11:47 AM
25 points in 4th quarter? We lost the series so what difference does it make.
Easily 8pts 9seconds gets my vote.
And yes, i saw them both live(or at least vcr live without knowing the results)

Randolph_HorseLips
02-08-2013, 12:24 PM
That win put the pacers 1 win away from the NBA Finals. The win the following year put the pacers up 1-0 and they were still 7 wins from the NBA Finals.

I agree. At the time that was easily the greatest win in Pacers NBA history. There was no close second. The Pacers were on a Cinderella run. We had finally won a playoff series, and then we upset the #1 seeded Hawks in the semis (I believe). Everyone was just happy to get to the ECF. I don't think anyone exactly expected to beat the Knicks, especially after we fell down in that series 0-2. But the 25 pt 4th quarter put us up 3 games to 2, and it was like: "My god! Maybe we CAN do this". It instantly promoted Reggie from star to beloved hero and national celebrity.

We didn't do it, of course, but we did eventually knocked the Knicks out of the playoffs... twice.

I watched the replay of the 25 pt 4th quarter not too long ago, and thing I had forgotten was how AWFUL the Knicks were offensively during that 4th quarter. It almost looked like they were being paid to lose. Terrible shots, passes, dribbling... everything. I think LaSalle Thompson had 3 or 4 steals in that quarter. I've never seen everything go SO right for one team, and everything go so wrong for the other. The Knicks were shell-shocked. Both the players and their fans.

I'm taking nothing away from the 8pts in 9 seconds, either. That was a great moment too, no doubt. And I don't think the results are especially skewed. I was expecting these results. To this day I hear more people bring that up than the 25 point 4th quarter.

Naptown_Seth
02-08-2013, 12:30 PM
25 points is just insane, Reggie was on fire for 12 minutes, not 10 seconds. 8 in 8.9 doesn't even happen if Rik Smits didn't carry the entire team for about 46 minutes. Reggie kinda sucked most of that game.

Great moment, but that 4th quarter is unbelievable moments that just keep coming and coming and coming. Oh, you thought 16 points was something, well here's a bomb from Newark, suck on that Spike. It's just nuts.

BPump33
02-08-2013, 12:33 PM
25 points is just insane, Reggie was on fire for 12 minutes, not 10 seconds. 8 in 8.9 doesn't even happen if Rik Smits didn't carry the entire team for about 46 minutes. Reggie kinda sucked most of that game.

Great moment, but that 4th quarter is unbelievable moments that just keep coming and coming and coming. Oh, you thought 16 points was something, well here's a bomb from Newark, suck on that Spike. It's just nuts.

I see what you did there.

Naptown_Seth
02-08-2013, 12:33 PM
By the way, let's not forget Reggie almost repeated the 8 in 9 thing vs the Nets late in his last season (IIRC) with James Jones helping out and hitting some late shots/FTs. But Reggie as I recall hit back to back 3s in a matter of seconds that salvaged a game that was over, and a critical game for the playoff chase.


Dang Pump, I didn't even mean to, but that's accidental genius so I'll take the credit. Higher forces working through me.

Randolph_HorseLips
02-08-2013, 12:41 PM
Accidental genius is always the residue of design.

cinotimz
02-08-2013, 12:42 PM
Guess it depends on whether u like your moments to last for 9 seconds or 20 to 30 minutes. If you select the 9 seconds, well...then....me thinks some of your gfs and/or wives might not be quite as content as you might like to believe ;) ;)

count55
02-08-2013, 01:08 PM
I think the 25 points in the 4th quarter is more significant for many reasons.

It was game 5 of the ECF. The 8 pts in 9 seconds was game 1 in the second round.

The 25 in the 4th quarter is what first put Reggie onto the national spotlight. I still remember the next day when he and his performance was the talk of the sports world. The first time is always more significant.

That win put the pacers 1 win away from the NBA Finals. The win the following year put the pacers up 1-0 and they were still 7 wins from the NBA Finals.

I have always thought the 25 point 4th was much better than 8 in 9 seconds.

Also for those who think the 8 in 9 was better. I challenge you to go back now almost 20 years later and watch them both and if you can honestly tell me the 8 in 9 seconds was better, I'll send you a dollar

You're laboring under the false assumption that there is actually a right answer to the question.

Heisenberg
02-08-2013, 01:10 PM
8 in 9, I have a scar on my head to this day from that moment so I have to pick it.

flampoo
02-08-2013, 01:13 PM
8 in 9, I have a scar on my head to this day from that moment so I have to pick it.

Context?

Heisenberg
02-08-2013, 01:18 PM
Context?

I was 11 when it happened, me and my brother had bunk beds. We were sitting on his (bottom) bunk watching the game, Reggie got the steal and hit the 2nd 3 and I hopped up and split my head open on the top bunk. It felt great.

Unclebuck
02-08-2013, 01:19 PM
You're laboring under the false assumption that there is actually a right answer to the question.

Yes, I think there is

beast23
02-08-2013, 02:23 PM
I think the 25 points was much more significant, but the 8 in 8.9 was more enjoyable for me. That day, my wife and I were moving my son out of his dorm at Washington University in St. Louis. Nearly all the kids had already left, and it was just my wife, my son and myself, along with about 15 guys from New York / New Jersey, nearly all of them Knicks fans.

My son made a bet with them that we would take them all out to eat if the Pacers lost and vice-versa. The three of us took more crap throughout the game than you could possibly imagine. I've been to MSG three times to see the Pacers, but this was much worse. Jeesh, young testosterone and trash-talking. The middle-aged beer guzzling crowd at MSG was nothing compared to these kids. And with about 30 seconds left, my wife and son surrendered and left to continue loading up the van, assisted by all of his trash-talking buddies.

Then when we won, everyone came running back into the room to see a crazy bald-headed fat guy, that would be me, in hysterics. All I could do is smile and go down the line of kids one by one... "F you, F you, F you, F you... And of course F you, too."

One of the kids looks at my son and said, "Your old man takes this basketball **** kind of seriously, doesn't he?"

That's when I knew that my son got it. He looked back at the kid and told him that in New York they only played basketball. In Indiana, we live for it.

It was a great bonding moment. For my wife, my son and myself. And for my son and his friends. When in New York, we usually meet and treat one of my son's friends, a former room mate, for dinner. And after we exchange hugs and start to leave, he always gets in the final words. "F you very much"

Randolph_HorseLips
02-08-2013, 02:48 PM
Then when we won, everyone came running back into the room to see a crazy bald-headed fat guy, that would be me, in hysterics. All I could do is smile and go down the line of kids one by one... "F you, F you, F you, F you... And of course F you, too."

Ha! Good post. This^ got a literal chuckle out of me. It kinda reminds me of Eddie Murphy as the barber in Coming to America... "F You! F You! And F You! Who next?"

There are world events that everyone remembers where they were. Reggie's 8 points in 9 seconds is sort of the sports equivalent of that.

Off topic- I am looking forward to taking my 6 and 4 year old to the game tonight. It will be their first NBA game, and my first one since 2010.

Trader Joe
02-08-2013, 02:57 PM
I think the 25 points was much more significant, but the 8 in 8.9 was more enjoyable for me. That day, my wife and I were moving my son out of his dorm at Washington University in St. Louis. Nearly all the kids had already left, and it was just my wife, my son and myself, along with about 15 guys from New York / New Jersey, nearly all of them Knicks fans.

My son made a bet with them that we would take them all out to eat if the Pacers lost and vice-versa. The three of us took more crap throughout the game than you could possibly imagine. I've been to MSG three times to see the Pacers, but this was much worse. Jeesh, young testosterone and trash-talking. The middle-aged beer guzzling crowd at MSG was nothing compared to these kids. And with about 30 seconds left, my wife and son surrendered and left to continue loading up the van, assisted by all of his trash-talking buddies.

Then when we won, everyone came running back into the room to see a crazy bald-headed fat guy, that would be me, in hysterics. All I could do is smile and go down the line of kids one by one... "F you, F you, F you, F you... And of course F you, too."

One of the kids looks at my son and said, "Your old man takes this basketball **** kind of seriously, doesn't he?"

That's when I knew that my son got it. He looked back at the kid and told him that in New York they only played basketball. In Indiana, we live for it.

It was a great bonding moment. For my wife, my son and myself. And for my son and his friends. When in New York, we usually meet and treat one of my son's friends, a former room mate, for dinner. And after we exchange hugs and start to leave, he always gets in the final words. "F you very much"

God damn that is a fantastic story.

Kid Minneapolis
02-08-2013, 03:25 PM
I'm really surprised at this poll, tbo. I witnessed both live... the 25 point fourth quarter, at the time, had way more weight to it. It was an amazing feeling. The 8pt8sec was more of a "what? that just happened" because it happened so fast... and it really wasn't as hard to pull off as what Reggie did in his 25 point quarter. Like I said before there was a bit of luck involved on the 8pts9secs, Reggie was just at the right place and right time. What's the chance that a team turns it over directly after a 3? To the same guy? And then fouls him on the next play? There were 9 other guys on the court, Reggie just happened to be in the right place right time each time, but his individual performance just wasn't near as high as what he achieved in that 25-point quarter. He literally was in the zone, for an entire quarter, he was basically "in range" as soon as he crossed halfcourt. He absolutely could not miss, and he brought us back from an big hole. The Garden was PISSED. It was honestly Reggie vs. New York City in that game, for an entire quarter. It's easily the 25-pt quarter, for me. It was much more difficult to pull off and more impressive. I could feel the testosterone that Reggie was giving off through the TV, he straight up manned out everyone in the building that night.

TMJ31
02-08-2013, 03:48 PM
8 in 9 for me.

I would like to introduce, Exhibit A:

GO TO 8:12


http://youtu.be/QHgf3P0Qgsk?t=8m12s

Since86
02-08-2013, 04:10 PM
I remember the 25pts more vividly, as I actually watched it. The 8pts in 9 seconds is something that will always haunt me. As I had just turned 9, and gave up. I made the 1/2mi trek to a friends house to start playing basketball, when he came out of his basement making noise but I couldn't understand what he was saying. I remember going in and watching the replay over and over again, stunned.

I never gave up early on Reggie for the rest of his career. Only to relearn that very same lesson with Peyton 14years later, on that infamous 4th and 2 call by Belichick. Maybe the pattern is me leaving and my teams pulling out the impossible, as opposed to me just being dumb.

Unclebuck
02-08-2013, 04:14 PM
Damn, many of you are too young, makes me feel old

BRushWithDeath
02-08-2013, 04:36 PM
The 25 point 4th was a better performance but the 8 points in 9 seconds is iconic. No comparison to me.

vnzla81
02-08-2013, 04:38 PM
Context?


I love your avatar of ash Larry :laugh:

Pacer Fan
02-08-2013, 05:44 PM
8pts in 9sec is the greatest moment in playoff history. Reggie shocked the NBA world.

25pts in 4th quarter was a great performance, but not a moment in the context of a game.

ChicagoJ
02-08-2013, 05:55 PM
I'll say this. The 8 points in 9 seconds never happens if Reggie disappears in the fourth quarter of Game #5 of the ECFs.

He was still not considered a clutch player at that point in his career. He'd hit a few clutch shots if plays designed for Rifleman or Schrempf broke down. He went- during those two seasons- from "Mr. First Quarter" to a HoF-caliber clutch player.

The 8-in-9 was a jawdropping moment.

The 25 point 4Q truly changed the trajectory of a franchise. (Along with Byron Scott's shot in Game #1 of the Orlando series that year, which I would still rank higher in terms of significance than the 8-in-9 display.)

QuickRelease
02-08-2013, 06:04 PM
I'll say this. The 8 points in 9 seconds never happens if Reggie disappears in the fourth quarter of Game #5 of the ECFs.
Why do you feel the two are related?

ChicagoJ
02-08-2013, 06:18 PM
Why do you feel the two are related?

Because Reggie never becomes Mr. Clutch without that game in '94.

BlueNGold
02-08-2013, 06:29 PM
The 8p9s was the definition of clutch, snatching victory from the jaws of defeat. I remember sliding across the carpet on my knees after the second 3.

The 25 points should be the most important, but the 8p9s had the most impact on me personally.

Agreed. 8 points in 9 seconds leaves another 711 seconds to make the next 17 points to match it. No problem.

Seriously though, the 8 in 9 ranks up there with Kirk Gibson's home run in my book.

BlueNGold
02-08-2013, 06:31 PM
...still looking for that 25 points in a quarter web site.

ChicagoJ
02-08-2013, 06:56 PM
...still looking for that 25 points in a quarter web site.

Its called PacersDigest. I suppose the more iconic moment may have been a year later, but the 25 point explosion in 1994 was the event that changed things.

We lose that series in six... and games #1 and #2 and the first 38 minutes or so of Game #5 in MSG were not competitive so it was looking pretty bleak, and the history just isn't the same.

We certainly could have used some clutch Reggie in Game #7 of that series. Who hit the back-to-back three pointers in the late moments of Game #7 when Slick was so nervous he was out in the halls of the Garden smoking a cigarette? (A: Derrick McKey)

QuickRelease
02-08-2013, 07:17 PM
If the 25 points in the 4th doesn't happen, wouldn't 8 in 9 still have defined Reg as clutch.

ChicagoJ
02-08-2013, 07:20 PM
If the 25 points in the 4th doesn't happen, wouldn't 8 in 9 have defined Reg as clutch.

Would he have even gotten the chance?

If Rik Smits didn't show up for the first 46 minutes of the 8pts/9 seconds game, we also aren't talking about Reggie's heroics.

BlueNGold
02-09-2013, 09:27 AM
The question is..."which moment was better". Obviously "better" depends on the person and we are very much sure of our opinions. Let's all just agree they were both fantastic.

Hicks
02-09-2013, 12:32 PM
25points12minutes.com?

Ransom
02-09-2013, 12:47 PM
The big thing about the 25 points was a whole quarter of crazy drama, Reggie hitting shots, talking to Spike Lee, everything. The defining moment probably being the deep three in Starks face. I give it to that game because while 8 points 9 seconds was more crazy and surreal, 25 points against the Knicks at home in one quarter is more impressive.

Pacergeek
02-09-2013, 01:05 PM
I voted 8 pts in 9 seconds. Nobody will ever achieve this again. Even Michael Jordan never accomplished this feat

BlueNGold
02-09-2013, 03:24 PM
25points12minutes.com?

Not impressive enough. How about 33points12minutes.com. Domain is owned by Mello and the Ice Man.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ycn-7745500

Kid Minneapolis
02-11-2013, 01:37 PM
I still think Reggie's 25 points was better than Melo's and Ice Man's performances. Playoff performance, and against an extremely tough defense.

Btw, he easily could have had closer to 30 in that quarter, about 4 of his shots were foot on the line.

Kid Minneapolis
02-11-2013, 01:47 PM
Here, just watch this for yourself:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDSF8otJH8Y

vnzla81
02-11-2013, 01:47 PM
Tmac's performance against San Antonio was pretty amazing too, 13 points in 35 seconds.


http://youtu.be/nfurCV1FDpM

Kid Minneapolis
02-11-2013, 01:49 PM
Yea, that was amazing.