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avoidingtheclowns
12-01-2012, 01:42 PM
BURN THE BRIDGES!



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Game Time Start: 10:30 PM EST
Where: Oracle Arena, Oakland, CA
Officials: K. Mauer, D. Bavetta, K. Lane

Media Notes: Indiana Notes (http://www.nba.com/gamenotes/pacers.pdf), Golden State Notes (http://www.nba.com/gamenotes/warriors.pdf)
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Season Records: (W-L)




:xpacers:

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http://i49.tinypic.com/e1589d.png<center>Away: 4-6
West: 5-3</center>



:warriors:

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http://i49.tinypic.com/e1589d.png<center>Home: 5-2
East: 2-0</center>

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http://www.nba.com/tvc/image/assets/wordmarks/IND_wordmark.png Projected Starting Lineup:



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<center>HIBBERT</center>
<center>WEST</center>
<center>GEORGE</center>
<center>STEPHENSON</center>
<center>HILL</center>



http://www.nba.com/tvc/image/assets/wordmarks/GSW_wordmark.png Projected Starting Lineup:



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<center>EZELI</center>
<center>LEE</center>
<center>BARNES</center>
<center>THOMPSON</center>
<center>CURRY</center>

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PACERS
Danny Granger - left knee tendinosis (out)
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WARRIORS
Andrew Bogut - "left ankle rehab" (out)
Brandon Rush - torn left ACL and MCL (out)
Richard Jefferson - strained right calf (out)



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Perpetually Disappointing to Trader Joe Minimally Relevant Video:



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Semi-Relevant Video:



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Jarrett gives Andre an earful...



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Golden State of Mind:




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Nate Parham: How are the Pacers coping with Danny Granger's absence?

The Golden State Warriors host the Indiana Pacers tonight at 7:30 p.m. PST at Oracle
Arena. Although the Pacers have been hot lately, a Q&A with SB Nation's Indy Cornrows
reveals that they still have some weaknesses that the Warriors can exploit.

I can't even believe I'm writing this, but the Golden State Warriors enter tonight's game
against the Indiana Pacers tied for first place in the Pacific Division game having won 6
of their last 8 games.

As Andy Liu wrote here on Tuesday, "With Danny Granger out and no special scorers on
the Pacers' roster, the Dubs should have no problems taking care of them." Add to that
the way the crowd at Oracle helped lift the Warriors to a win against the Denver Nuggets
on Thursday night and it's easy to imagine them adding another notch in the win column.

However, despite Granger's absence and the team's offensive struggles, the Pacers find
themselves coming to Oakland having won 5 of their own last 7, including a dramatic win
against the L.A. Lakers (no, I have no idea what's happening in the Pacific Division this
season either, but let's just go with this before someone wakes us up from this dream).

So what's going right with the Pacers? Who will maintain their momentum? For some
rival insight to counter our West Coast bias, I contacted Ian Levy of SB Nation's Indy
Cornrows with a few pre-game questions about Granger, the seeming emergence of
George Hill in his absence, and what the Warriors would have to do to stop the Pacers
from finishing their California road trip unblemished.

GSoM: I'm pretty sure that last time Tom Lewis & I did a Q&A it was in response to
flimsy trade rumors about the Warriors offering their #7 pick for the likes of Danny
Granger (and interestingly, Harrison Barnes has been compared to Granger once or
twice around GSoM). At that time, Tom wrote, "...the team needs to hang on to
Granger now and continue improving in other areas. They don't have anyone who
can fill in that 18-20 points per game with the ability to score 35..." Yet the Pacers
have won 5 of their last 7 without Granger and the two losses (at New York, vs. San
Antonio) are perfectly reasonable. What has the team been doing over the last 7
games to make up for the absence of Granger?

Ian Levy: They've been defending well, and getting just enough offense.

One of those games was the ridiculous Paul George 37 point effort, an scoring output
that he won't be duplicating on a regular basis. The Pacers have been talking about
new movement, both ball and player, that they've installed in their offense but for
the most part things look just as stagnant. They've been getting timely offense
contributions from David West and George Hill and that's helped them squeeze out
some games. Grinding out wins is a terrific change from where they were two weeks
ago, but there is still a lot more ship-righting to do.

With regards to Granger, the Pacers certainly miss his points. But the real problem
is the way his absence has pushed everyone to the fringe of their own offensive
efficiency. Everyone is having to do a little bit more, and in ways they are not
entirely suited for, which has dragged down the efficiency of the entire group. If and
when Granger returns everyone can slide back into the usage tier they're best suited
for.

GSoM: I thought it was really awesome to see a Pacers team playing without their
"name" star beat a glitzy Lakers team with multiple stars in LA. For fans that don't
watch the Pacers too often, what might we be able to take away about the Pacers
from that big win in LA?

IL: The big take-away was that for all the offensive problems they've had this season
the Pacers are still one of the best defensive teams in the league and have the pieces
in place to win some games primarily with their efforts at that end of the floor. The
Pacers simply cannot score consistently this season, but their effort level and
defensive intensity hasn't waned. However, needing a last second shot to win a 79-77
game, against the similarly...CONTINUE READING AT GOLDEN STATE OF MIND (http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2012/12/1/3713606/golden-state-warriors-vs-indiana-pacers-preview-danny-granger)


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Warriors World:




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Jack Winter: Starters Underwhelm for Warriors

The Oklahoma City Thunder are the NBAís modicum for patient, earned, and seemingly
sustainable success. Just three years removed from a 3-29 start and in-season coaching
change, OKC was a Finals participant last season in a closer-than-it-looked five game
series. The trade of James Harden not withstanding, they boast a young, versatile roster
with two bonafide superstars, a near All-Star big man thatís only getting better, and solid
ancillary parts that play their roles to perfection. Theyíve got a model lockerroom culture
and maybe the leagueís most passionate fanbase, too.

So for the perpetually downtrodden Warriors, most any comparison to the Thunder should
be welcome and a sign of encouragement. At 8-6 and currently sixth in the Western
Conference, that Golden State is even a potential playoff opponent of OKC after the
seasonís first month is worthy of a small celebration. After all, this franchise hasnít
enjoyed this much pre-New Year winning since the ďWe BelieveĒ days of 2006.

So before we get to the problem at hand, take a moment to appreciate where the
Warriors are right now and realize that the following is the type of nit-picking reserved
for teams with legitimate and meaningful longterm goals for this season. Basically, know
that the purpose of this discussion is good even though itís bad.

So other than the shooting woes of their young, star point guards, what do the Thunder
and Warriors have in common? Their starters are absolutely killing them.

This is an issue for Oklahoma City thatís well-known; you donít play in the Finals and
have players like Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook without constant national
analysis and scrutiny. The Thunderís opening quintet of Westbrook, Thabo Sefolosha,
Kevin Durant, Serge Ibaka, and Kendrick Perkins puts them in an unnecessary whole
almost every game, for the simple reason that they just canít score. The hope and
justification for this lineup is that that problem is offset by better play on the other
end, most notably influenced by the presence of Sefolosha and Perkins. But that
wasnít the case in 2011-2012 and certainly hasnít been so far this season either, as
chronicled here by the always must-read John Hollinger.

The Warriors suffer from the same affliction, and itís especially comparable to OKCís
because the supposed ďstoppersĒ Ė rookies Harrison Barnes and Festus Ezeli Ė play
roles similar to Sefolosha and Perkins. Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, and David
Lee are three of Golden Stateís best offensive players, and collectively present a net
negative on the other end. Lee is especially poor defensively, and Curry and
Thompson Ė though the latter is improving Ė are prone to foul trouble. So it makes
sense to pair that trio with Barnes, a wing with a rare combination of size and
quickness, and Ezeli, a great rebounder and paint intimidator.

The expectation, like the one back East in Oklahoma, is that less give-and-take on
one end or another would yield better balance and ultimately an early lead. But that
on-paper thought hasnít come close to materializing on the court, as the Warriorsí
starters have been awful on offense and merely average on the other end, a fact
best reflected by that groupís relation to the teamís offensive and defensive ratings
overall.

Letís bullet for emphasis.



GS overall Offensive Efficiency: 100.3 (17th)
Startersí Offensive Efficiency: 93.3 (29th)
GS overall Defensive Efficiency: 100.4 (12th)
Startersí Defensive Efficiency: 99.2 (seventh)
GS overall Net Rating: -.1 (15th)
Startersí Net Rating: -5.9 (27th)


Yikes. The trade-off that Mark Jackson anticipates just isnít there, mostly due to this
groupís complete ineptitude on offense; these guys just canít score. Part of that is
likely due to the shooting struggles of Curry and Thompson and the price of playing
two rookies simultaneously, but even if they come around on offense it still wonít be
enough. Golden State is much-improved across the board defensively this season, so
being better by mere percentage points on that end hardly justifies the minutes this
ill-fitting quintet is getting right now.

Want more evidence? Itís everywhere...CONTINUE READING AT WARRIORS WORLD (http://www.warriorsworld.net/2012/11/26/starters-underwhelm-for-the-warriors/)

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140 Characters of (Non-PD) Coverage



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Pacers
Mike Wells @MikeWellsNBA (https://twitter.com/#!/MikeWellsNBA)
Jared Wade @8pts9secs (https://twitter.com/#!/8pts9secs)
Tim Donahue @TimDonahue8p9s (https://twitter.com/#!/TimDonahue8p9s)
Tom Lewis @indycornrows (https://twitter.com/#!/IndyCornrows)


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Warriors
Tim Kawakami @timkawakami (https://twitter.com/timkawakami)
Marcus Thompson @gswscribe (https://twitter.com/gswscribe)
J.M. Poulard @ShyneIV (https://twitter.com/ShyneIV)
Golden State of Mind @unstoppablebaby (https://twitter.com/unstoppablebaby)


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cgg
12-01-2012, 02:15 PM
Starters’ Offensive Efficiency: 93.3 (29th)

Should be interesting to see that against our defense.

LoneGranger33
12-01-2012, 02:33 PM
As much as it pains me to praise you, atc, your Game Thread posts are consistently fantastic.

Mourning
12-01-2012, 04:53 PM
As much as it pains me to praise you, atc, your Game Thread posts are consistently fantastic.

This!

and this... :gopacers:!

Mr_Smith
12-01-2012, 06:18 PM
Really need roy to step the **** up and go eat tonight...wishful thinking

AesopRockOn
12-01-2012, 06:28 PM
I'm going to pretend that their starting center is Denzel Washington playing a rapper from Compton.

Coopdog23
12-01-2012, 07:27 PM
Keep their shooters in check

CableKC
12-01-2012, 07:48 PM
I just want Hibbert and PG to show up......

Sparhawk
12-01-2012, 08:24 PM
Man, I really want Jarrett Jack back in a Pacer uni.

Sparhawk
12-01-2012, 08:27 PM
When will someone other than West and Hill step up? I think all Pacers fans are waiting....

vnzla81
12-01-2012, 08:29 PM
I'm going to tell you that this Golden State team is pretty good, with Mark Jackson now they run with a purpose, they pass the ball really well and almost anybody can make an open shot, they also run a lot and by a lot I mean a lot, I expect to see a tired Roy Hibbert and probably Dwest.

And with that said I expect the Pacers to punish them inside they don't have anybody that can play D and block shots.

docpaul
12-01-2012, 10:23 PM
Vogel just essentially acknowledged PG's role as a complementary offensive player in his pre-game comments...

docpaul
12-01-2012, 10:28 PM
Man, I really want Jarrett Jack back in a Pacer uni.

How many people would take JJ's contract (5.4m) vs. DJ's (3m)?

(raises hand)

Wouldn't be surprised at all if we go after him this offseason. He'd be great alongside Hill. Love his game, always have.

Sparhawk
12-01-2012, 10:34 PM
How many people would take JJ's contract (5.4m) vs. DJ's (3m)?

(raises hand)

Wouldn't be surprised at all if we go after him this offseason. He'd be great alongside Hill. Love his game, always have.

Man, I would love for the Pacers to give him a look. I wonder what type of deal he'll get? More money, the same or less?

Sparhawk
12-01-2012, 10:35 PM
Anderson Varejao is having one hell of a season. Damn. He better be an all-star.

Nuntius
12-01-2012, 10:36 PM
And with that said I expect the Pacers to punish them inside they don't have anybody that can play D and block shots.

Ezeli is good at it but he's still pretty raw.

Sparhawk
12-01-2012, 10:39 PM
Gordon Hayward looks to be coming off the bench now. Had a very nice game too. Maybe the Jazz think he's better as a 6th man? Scored 21 and was efficient.

CableKC
12-01-2012, 10:41 PM
Pritchard is sitting in the row behind us.

Sparhawk
12-01-2012, 10:43 PM
Lance with an early steal and an assist. Maybe that'll get him going.

Nuntius
12-01-2012, 10:43 PM
Nice steal, Lance. Nice 3, Hill :)

Sparhawk
12-01-2012, 10:45 PM
Lance feeling it tonight!

vnzla81
12-01-2012, 10:46 PM
Damn Curry.

Sparhawk
12-01-2012, 10:47 PM
Lance again for 3. Loving it!

Nuntius
12-01-2012, 10:47 PM
Lance is off to a good start :)

cgg
12-01-2012, 10:49 PM
West just told everyone to start moving and they all started running around. Give him the max!

Pingu
12-01-2012, 10:50 PM
Where's Roy? When did the Pacers sign Jerome Moiso to start at C?

Eleazar
12-01-2012, 10:50 PM
One thing this team struggles with is going after guys in foul trouble.

AesopRockOn
12-01-2012, 10:51 PM
I swear, about a third of our possessions in the half court end with giving the ball to West with less than seven seconds on the shot clock. We're like the anti-Suns.

LoneGranger33
12-01-2012, 10:52 PM
I wonder if Frank Vogel could motivate Biedrins.

pianoman
12-01-2012, 10:55 PM
It's so frustrating to watch Roy right now. He's not trying to get position, or rebounds. Very, very frustrating.

Eleazar
12-01-2012, 10:57 PM
Right now I would consider it an improvement if Roy would just shoot it long instead of short.

Sparhawk
12-01-2012, 10:58 PM
Vogel just took out the hot hands in West and Lance. The only two guys making shots. Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiice.

Nuntius
12-01-2012, 10:58 PM
Nice drive, Green.

AesopRockOn
12-01-2012, 10:59 PM
I really hope Klay Thompson went as Boy Meets World for Halloween this year.

Nuntius
12-01-2012, 11:00 PM
Nice move, Ian.

Pingu
12-01-2012, 11:00 PM
Why in the world are we posting Ian up against Biedrins?

vnzla81
12-01-2012, 11:03 PM
Anytime I'm ready to give Green a break he screws up multiple times :snakehead

Eleazar
12-01-2012, 11:03 PM
I would rather see Green take 20 3's than see Augustin take a shot with more than 2 seconds left on the shot clock.

vnzla81
12-01-2012, 11:03 PM
Why in the world are we posting Ian up against Biedrins?

I still don't understand why they keep playing the same offense for the second unit.

AesopRockOn
12-01-2012, 11:04 PM
DJ needs to develop pick and roll chemistry with Ian or Tyler.

Sparhawk
12-01-2012, 11:05 PM
God, I hate Vogel's substitutions. 5 bench players on the floor at once? I thought we were past this nonsense.

Pingu
12-01-2012, 11:05 PM
Oh, DJ...

Well, tied after one, Lance is playing well. Things could be worse.

Anthem
12-01-2012, 11:06 PM
Man, I really want Jarrett Jack back in a Pacer uni.
Imagine how much better we'd be with Jack at backup PG instead of DJ.

Nuntius
12-01-2012, 11:06 PM
Why do you clear out for DJ with the shot clock running out? Play some PnR.

Saras
12-01-2012, 11:07 PM
DJ "Iverson" Augustine.

AesopRockOn
12-01-2012, 11:07 PM
Our bench's offense should be fined $250,000.

Pingu
12-01-2012, 11:09 PM
There's the DJ-Ian PnR! Followed by a destruction of a Warriors player by Ian lol.

Nuntius
12-01-2012, 11:09 PM
DJ needs to develop pick and roll chemistry with Ian or Tyler.

Absolutely. Just like what they did now.

Nuntius
12-01-2012, 11:10 PM
Beautiful drive, Young :)

vnzla81
12-01-2012, 11:11 PM
Our bench's offense should be fined $250,000.

They have been fined more than that and is about 10mi,l not only that but they got punished in such a way that they are forced to play Green, Mahinmi and DJ, DAMN YOU NBA!!!

Nuntius
12-01-2012, 11:11 PM
Beautiful drive, Young :)

Followed by an extremely ugly one :-p

Pingu
12-01-2012, 11:11 PM
Jarret "Hot knife in Indiana's D" Jack...

Pacerized
12-01-2012, 11:12 PM
Thanks, Green

vnzla81
12-01-2012, 11:13 PM
Great job Green....

rock747
12-01-2012, 11:14 PM
someone ask Pritchard why he made our bench worse....

Nuntius
12-01-2012, 11:14 PM
That was not good, Gerald :(

Pingu
12-01-2012, 11:14 PM
Green with the double-whammy...

Nuntius
12-01-2012, 11:15 PM
Aigh, GG :(

AesopRockOn
12-01-2012, 11:15 PM
The oldest starter should not be the first one back in the game. Lance, Hill, and Paul are young legs.

West may be dead by the All Star break. Even if he just plays offense, keeping up this pace is tough.

Nuntius
12-01-2012, 11:16 PM
someone ask Pritchard why he made our bench worse....

Talent-wise it's not worse.

Chemistry-wise? Well, let's just say that a lot of people get to see how important chemistry is ;)

BlueCollarColts
12-01-2012, 11:16 PM
hey Pacers digest got a shot out!!!!!!!

Jose31917
12-01-2012, 11:16 PM
They're both 7 footers and both.... uh really good... Haha nice save.

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Dr. Awesome
12-01-2012, 11:17 PM
We should make a rule, no more than 3 bench players can be on the court at a time.

Indra
12-01-2012, 11:18 PM
At the game. Heard from a warriors fan, "number 21 is David West, right? He's a monster."

Pacerized
12-01-2012, 11:18 PM
Anyone want to revive the our bench really has improved thread.

rock747
12-01-2012, 11:19 PM
a 10 pt lead for the Warriors sparked by our bench..

Nuntius
12-01-2012, 11:20 PM
Nice drive, DJ.

rock747
12-01-2012, 11:21 PM
Pacers miss Grangers annual huge game against the Warriors.

greyhound80
12-01-2012, 11:21 PM
someone ask Pritchard why he made our bench worse....

Bench is god awful.
Gerald Green has no clue how to play basketball. Dribbles when nothing is there. Shoots when he isn't open. Passes when he IS open.
Just an oddly constructed group.

vnzla81
12-01-2012, 11:21 PM
Anyone want to revive the our bench really has improved thread.

According to synergy they are getting better....

Dr. Awesome
12-01-2012, 11:22 PM
Anyone want to revive the our bench really has improved thread.

The thing is, most of the players on our bench are great utility/role players. The problem is, we constantly put 5 utility/role players on the court at the same time and expect results. It doesn't work that way.

Mixed in with the starters, I really feel like all the players on our bench will shine more.

vnzla81
12-01-2012, 11:24 PM
Let's hope Golden State doesn't go small and start to run.

rock747
12-01-2012, 11:24 PM
The thing is, most of the players on our bench are great utility/role players. The problem is, we constantly put 5 utility/role players on the court at the same time and expect results. It doesn't work that way.

Mixed in with the starters, I really feel like all the players on our bench will shine more.

Gerald Green is a great role player? Just seems like a good athlete.

AesopRockOn
12-01-2012, 11:25 PM
Roy could've kicked the ball at the basket and it would have had a better chance at going in.

Nuntius
12-01-2012, 11:26 PM
Gerald Green is a great role player? Just seems like a good athlete.

He is an athletic wing that can hit 3s, finish at the rim and rebound. He is also quite good offensively in the post but we never use him that way.

Saras
12-01-2012, 11:26 PM
Warriors announcers after Hibberts horrible shot : "i dont know what was that" ..

Nuntius
12-01-2012, 11:28 PM
Hill :happydanc

Derek2k3
12-01-2012, 11:28 PM
These games have gotten progressively more difficult to watch. For me, it's because the terrible officials.

No, I'm not saying they're biased or anything, I'm saying they suck. At one point tonight they had called 18 fouls in 17 minutes.

Give me a break.

greyhound80
12-01-2012, 11:28 PM
Really quite sick of watching Roy clap his hands after every missed shot. It happens far too frequently.

rock747
12-01-2012, 11:28 PM
He is an athletic wing that can hit 3s, finish at the rim and rebound. He is also quite good offensively in the post but we never use him that way.

Oh, so his problem is that we aren't using him right... not that he doesn't know how to play winning basketball..

greyhound80
12-01-2012, 11:29 PM
He is an athletic wing that can hit 3s, finish at the rim and rebound. He is also quite good offensively in the post but we never use him that way.
And is a very poor decision maker and has a poor basketball IQ

vnzla81
12-01-2012, 11:30 PM
Weird how Golden State is not running for some reason.

Pingu
12-01-2012, 11:31 PM
Ezeli fouled Paul there...

AesopRockOn
12-01-2012, 11:31 PM
Good cut by Paul, just a Roy-like block by E-Z Eli.

Nuntius
12-01-2012, 11:31 PM
Oh, so his problem is that we aren't using him right... not that he doesn't know how to play winning basketball..

What is that winning basketball you're talking about? Is it something that someone is born with?

If not, then it can be learned. Right?

Nuntius
12-01-2012, 11:32 PM
Ezeli fouled Paul there...

No. He went straight up.

Pingu
12-01-2012, 11:32 PM
No. He went straight up.

On the replay it looked to me like he got as much forearm as ball.

Saras
12-01-2012, 11:33 PM
Some good points said by Warriors announcers ( probably my favourite ones together with Utah ones and couple other ).

Augustine cant shoot, Mahinmi too, overall decent players just cant make a basket and you can say they suck, but theres something wrong with the whole team and only super experienced players like West or mental tough like Hill plays well.

Nuntius
12-01-2012, 11:34 PM
And is a very poor decision maker and has a poor basketball IQ

Then don't make him make decisions. Several players can be really effective off the bench even if they are poor decision makers.

Don't have him handle the ball. Don't use him to create. Use him to shoot set shots and post him up. That way we're taking the maximum of his advantages and the minimum of his drawbacks.

Nuntius
12-01-2012, 11:34 PM
Nice shot, Hill :)

AesopRockOn
12-01-2012, 11:34 PM
Weird how Golden State is not running for some reason.

It kind of happens every game. The game starts off pretty entertaining because our starters aren't bad on offense. Lance and Hill make plays and West scores. Then the bench comes in and slows things down. The refs call a bunch of fouls. Lots of free throws. Then rinse and repeat for the second half. Our team just makes games ugly and the fouls and free throws slow down the game even more.

Like I've said before, I feel bad for opposing team's fans who have to watch us. Except Lakers fans.

rock747
12-01-2012, 11:34 PM
What is that winning basketball you're talking about? Is it something that someone is born with?

If not, then it can be learned. Right?

There is probably a reason he hasn't been able to stick anywhere. He is sloppy and lacks a grasp of how to fit within a team. Meanwhile, the starters have brought us back.

LoneGranger33
12-01-2012, 11:34 PM
GH is as hot as a pistol.

vnzla81
12-01-2012, 11:35 PM
Hill is playing great he can't miss.

Derek2k3
12-01-2012, 11:35 PM
And is a very poor decision maker and has a poor basketball IQ

Have to have a "basketball IQ" to have a poor "basketball IQ".

Nuntius
12-01-2012, 11:35 PM
On the replay it looked to me like he got as much forearm as ball.

I'll try to find a replay and check it. You could be right. It seemed legit to me. A lot like Roy's blocks.

Pacerized
12-01-2012, 11:35 PM
I thought we had about a wash with our bench when so many were signing their praises. I no longer think that, overall it's a big step back. Right now I'd trade every bench player and their current contracts for every player we gave up. We'd be saving a ton of money and have flexibility to go another direction next year. That includes Ian who is the only upgrade of the bunch but I hate the idea of him being our backup 5 for the next 4 years.

PritchSlap
12-01-2012, 11:36 PM
Roy's turnaround is finally going in. Thank God.

Pingu
12-01-2012, 11:38 PM
How many times has Paul lost Klay Thompson in this half? Five times?

AesopRockOn
12-01-2012, 11:38 PM
So much stupid, Hill.

Saras
12-01-2012, 11:38 PM
Roy's turnaround is finally going in. Thank God.


aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand its gone

Magic P
12-01-2012, 11:38 PM
PG has been useless offensively and defensively

Anthem
12-01-2012, 11:38 PM
Anybody else thinking "Wow, Golden State could really use Monta right now?"

Yeah, me neither.

LoneGranger33
12-01-2012, 11:39 PM
Shame we couldn't play the Kings again tonight.

greyhound80
12-01-2012, 11:39 PM
Pathetic last two minutes. Do we ever get an offensive rebound?

vnzla81
12-01-2012, 11:39 PM
Anybody else thinking "Wow, Golden State could really use Monta right now?"

Yeah, me neither.

Good try, try harder next time.

rock747
12-01-2012, 11:40 PM
if George Hill just takes a turnover our defense can set up...

AesopRockOn
12-01-2012, 11:40 PM
How many times has Paul lost Klay Thompson in this half? Five times?

Paul on mobile shooting guards doesn't work. See: Ray Allen. Lance or Young in the second half, me thinks.

Dr. Awesome
12-01-2012, 11:40 PM
I really view the last 5 years as a waste now.

Roy Hibbert and Paul George have disappointed me more than I can even put into words. The future of our franchise was based on the players we saw them becoming.

Right now, it looks like we might have the worst future in the NBA. Sounds over dramatic, and I'm not saying we will be the worst, but we have no prospects that look like they will amount to anything, our two best players(Granger and West) will keep us as a mediocre team that doesn't get good draft picks, and when they past their prime, many years from now, we will be stuck with a bunch of role players.

...Sorry, I'm just getting depressed watching Hibbert and George.

Saras
12-01-2012, 11:40 PM
I would take Thompson over Ellis any day.

Nuntius
12-01-2012, 11:41 PM
There is probably a reason he hasn't been able to stick anywhere.

The Gerald Green who came out of the draft wasn't able to stick anywhere.

The Gerald Green who returned from overseas and played with the Nets was able to stick there and help them win.

Dr. Awesome
12-01-2012, 11:41 PM
Good try, try harder next time.

Stop trying.

Eleazar
12-01-2012, 11:41 PM
if George Hill just takes a turnover our defense can set up...

Or if they call the obvious reach in foul on i think Thompson then Lance has two free throws.

Dr. Awesome
12-01-2012, 11:41 PM
PG has been useless offensively and defensively

He keeps leaving Klay Thompson wide open, its mind boggling.

TheDon
12-01-2012, 11:43 PM
Anybody else thinking "Wow, Golden State could really use Monta right now?"

I could think of at least one person on this board :D (just kidding around vnzla)

Nuntius
12-01-2012, 11:43 PM
Pathetic last two minutes. Do we ever get an offensive rebound?

We have one offensive rebound more than them.

vnzla81
12-01-2012, 11:43 PM
I really view the last 5 years as a waste now.

Roy Hibbert and Paul George have disappointed me more than I can even put into words. The future of our franchise was based on the players we saw them becoming.

Right now, it looks like we might have the worst future in the NBA. Sounds over dramatic, and I'm not saying we will be the worst, but we have no prospects that look like they will amount to anything, our two best players(Granger and West) will keep us as a mediocre team that doesn't get good draft picks, and when they past their prime, many years from now, we will be stuck with a bunch of role players.

...Sorry, I'm just getting depressed watching Hibbert and George.

I don't think you are crazy to think that, I expect rebuilding once Danny and West are gone, and for the moment they are going to keep the team floating in the middle.

greyhound80
12-01-2012, 11:44 PM
PG has been useless offensively and defensively

What the hell is wrong with PG? He looks awful. We are getting zero out of him. Not good.

rock747
12-01-2012, 11:44 PM
The Gerald Green who came out of the draft wasn't able to stick anywhere.

The Gerald Green who returned from overseas and played with the Nets was able to stick there and help them win.

He stuck there for 30 some games.... he did stick somewhere though I guess. Here. and for 3 years.

Dr. Awesome
12-01-2012, 11:45 PM
I don't think you are crazy to think that, I expect rebuilding once Danny and West are gone, and for the moment they are going to keep the team floating in the middle.

Doubt they will be gone for a while, unless DWest bolts this offseason.

Pacerized
12-01-2012, 11:46 PM
He stuck there for 30 some games.... he did stick somewhere though I guess. Here. and for 3 years.

Would you trade him for Barbosa's vet min. 1 year contract right now? I sure would.

AesopRockOn
12-01-2012, 11:46 PM
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand its gone

http://i.imgur.com/gx8h6.png

rock747
12-01-2012, 11:48 PM
Would you trade him for Barbosa's vet min. 1 year contract right now? I sure would.

In a heartbeat.

vnzla81
12-01-2012, 11:48 PM
I could think of at least one person on this board :D (just kidding around vnzla)

Funny that I keep getting s*** about Monta when I'm the one that was right about trading Danny's messed up knees for Monta, only a crazy person would not think that a healthy Monta is better than a broken down Danny Granger on the bench.

I bet the Pacers have a better record with Monta playing than with Danny on the bench, too bad Danny's value is s*** now that you can't even trade him for a bag of cheetos.

greyhound80
12-01-2012, 11:48 PM
We have one offensive rebound more than them.

Yeah but we're shooting 39% to their 51%. We tend to miss a lot more but I see virtually no effort to go get a second shot. George, West and Roy have one each.
They've missed 17 shots and we've missed 28 (3 FT's) We shoot and turn and jog to the other end.

Magic P
12-01-2012, 11:48 PM
What the hell is wrong with PG? He looks awful. We are getting zero out of him. Not good.

PG is an athletic milk drinker. I wish he had a mean streak in him.

docpaul
12-01-2012, 11:49 PM
Paul on mobile shooting guards doesn't work. See: Ray Allen. Lance or Young in the second half, me thinks.

That's because the defensive design has PG cheating the post as well.... if he was allowed to play true perimeter defense, there'd be less of an issue, but the post would suffer.

Pace Maker
12-01-2012, 11:49 PM
Anybody else thinking "Wow, Golden State could really use Monta right now?"

Yeah, me neither.

I'm too busy thinking about how much WE could really use Monta right now...

AesopRockOn
12-01-2012, 11:49 PM
it looks like we might have the worst future in the NBA.

As long as there is a team in Charlotte called the Bobcats, this will never be the case. It's in the Terms and Conditions disclosure.

vnzla81
12-01-2012, 11:51 PM
Doubt they will be gone for a while, unless DWest bolts this offseason.

Danny is probably gone once he expires, if his knee is not healthy enough he is gone, and I expect West to stay here for at least 4 more years and after that rebuilding again.

TOP
12-01-2012, 11:51 PM
I'm really starting to worry that this is the Roy Hibbert we're going to be stuck with. How a 7'2 guy can have 2 rebounds in a half and continually shoot 30% is inexplicable.

Pace Maker
12-01-2012, 11:51 PM
As long as there is a team in Charlotte called the Bobcats, this will never be the case. It's in the Terms and Conditions disclosure.
Being terrible>>>being stuck in the middle

AesopRockOn
12-01-2012, 11:52 PM
That's because the defensive design has PG cheating the post as well.... if he was allowed to play true perimeter defense, there'd be less of an issue, but the post would suffer.

Agreed, though that is our defensive scheme. We clog the middle to lower opponent FG%. It has worked very well this year. Thusly, opposing teams get better looks at long shots. They haven't hit too many this year. GS may be the exception. I do think switching defenders could do a world of good. Paul would work better on Steph than Klay the way it's been going.

rock747
12-01-2012, 11:54 PM
Quinn called Brooke, Stacey...

vnzla81
12-01-2012, 11:55 PM
The Pacers can use one of those shooters.

rock747
12-01-2012, 11:57 PM
Paul George just leaves him...

LoneGranger33
12-01-2012, 11:57 PM
****ing Paul George.

Nuntius
12-01-2012, 11:57 PM
I bet the Pacers have a better record with Monta playing than with Danny on the bench, too bad Danny's value is s*** now that you can't even trade him for a bag of cheetos.

Milwaukee with Monta has the same record with the Pacers without Granger so far this season.

vnzla81
12-01-2012, 11:57 PM
Thompson is just amazing at shooting damn.

AesopRockOn
12-01-2012, 11:57 PM
There's defensive scheme and there's dumb. Paul just did the latter.

Heisenberg
12-01-2012, 11:58 PM
Dubs have some annoying bench warmers

clownskull
12-02-2012, 12:00 AM
who is supposed to guard thompson?
whoever it is- they aren't doing it.

LoneGranger33
12-02-2012, 12:00 AM
The two guys we were counting on to step up, regressed. Pacers 2012-2013.

vnzla81
12-02-2012, 12:00 AM
They are starting to run and shoot like I expected.

Pacerized
12-02-2012, 12:00 AM
It's like Paul George was sprayed with fear gas tonight. He needs to attack the basket and get going. Sadly, I don't know who I want to go in for him.

AesopRockOn
12-02-2012, 12:01 AM
This might be good night for some of you. #preemptinglonegranger

Ace E.Anderson
12-02-2012, 12:01 AM
PG frustrates the hell out of me.

That is all

rock747
12-02-2012, 12:01 AM
who is supposed to guard thompson?
whoever it is- they aren't doing it.

Paul George I believe.

Pingu
12-02-2012, 12:01 AM
Roy is making shots when he gets it close to the basket tonight. So feed him, and feed him THERE. Not at the top of the mother****ing key.

vnzla81
12-02-2012, 12:01 AM
who is supposed to guard thompson?
whoever it is- they aren't doing it.

The defense is setup to stop people inside, the Pacers defense is not good at getting to shooters and Golden State has a lot of shooters.

Magic P
12-02-2012, 12:02 AM
A few minutes to go before the bench comes in, this game could end up being a blowout.

rel
12-02-2012, 12:02 AM
PG is such a bum on offense. I love the kid but he just doesn't have the drive or ability to be a force on O

granger4mvp
12-02-2012, 12:02 AM
GAME

LoneGranger33
12-02-2012, 12:02 AM
This might be good night for some of you. #preemptinglonegranger

Great, now I have to stay up 'til the end.

rock747
12-02-2012, 12:04 AM
Pacers look like they're mailing this in.

AesopRockOn
12-02-2012, 12:05 AM
Great, now I have to stay up 'til the end.

Though you may just pass out banging your head on the keyboard.

Ace E.Anderson
12-02-2012, 12:05 AM
Milwaukee with Monta has the same record with the Pacers without Granger so far this season.

I'm a Monta Ellis fan, but that's an interesting fact

Eleazar
12-02-2012, 12:05 AM
I love how slightly shuffleing your feet it is a travel in the NBA, but you can take as many full steps as you want.

vnzla81
12-02-2012, 12:05 AM
It looks to me like Mark Jackson was just telling them to take it easy and then push it to the metal once the Pacers got tired.

Eleazar
12-02-2012, 12:07 AM
Hill gotta wait for the pick to be set before using it.

vnzla81
12-02-2012, 12:08 AM
I'm a Monta Ellis fan, but that's an interesting fact

I didn't say that they would have a better record than Milwaukee but a better record than the Pacers, got it?

rock747
12-02-2012, 12:08 AM
Gerald ****ing Green... again!

Saras
12-02-2012, 12:08 AM
what the ****, refs ? Stop beating a dead horse.

vnzla81
12-02-2012, 12:08 AM
That's that great defense from Green that Seth always talks about....

Eleazar
12-02-2012, 12:09 AM
Gerald ****ing Green... again!

If that is a foul I am a space alien.

2minutes twoa
12-02-2012, 12:10 AM
Sit Paul George's *** on the bench!!

LoneGranger33
12-02-2012, 12:10 AM
Frank Vogel should employ the Grinnell offense, Jack Taylor-ing Hill and West on an alternating basis.

Nuntius
12-02-2012, 12:10 AM
I didn't say that they would have a better record than Milwaukee but a better record than the Pacers, got it?

Bro, Milwaukee record = Pacers record.

Before tonight, at least.

boombaby1987
12-02-2012, 12:11 AM
It looks to me like Mark Jackson was just telling them to take it easy and then push it to the metal once the Pacers got tired.

This is total bs and you know it.

LoneGranger33
12-02-2012, 12:11 AM
If that is a foul I am a space alien.

I'm you are Scottish lord, then I am Mickey Mouse!

beast23
12-02-2012, 12:12 AM
That's that great defense from Green that Seth always talks about....

Why throw that out there? Or should we talk about the absolute stupendous defense AND offense being played by Mr George?

Eleazar
12-02-2012, 12:13 AM
I'm you are Scottish lord, then I am Mickey Mouse!

I have no idea what you are trying to say?

Diamond Dave
12-02-2012, 12:15 AM
I'm you are Scottish lord, then I am Mickey Mouse!

It was a botched attempt to quote Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade

Ace E.Anderson
12-02-2012, 12:15 AM
If we can whether the storm nd be under 10 at the start of the 4th, I think we should be happy

rock747
12-02-2012, 12:16 AM
Pacers can't take out the starters for rest, because then the game will be completely over.

LoneGranger33
12-02-2012, 12:17 AM
It was a botched attempt to quote Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade

I chose poorly.

Ace E.Anderson
12-02-2012, 12:17 AM
Ps, are we still blaming our struggles on G.Hill playing PG?

boombaby1987
12-02-2012, 12:17 AM
Were just hanging around. Would love to see some non David West Triple team iso that leads to a turnover which has happened 3 times this quarter.

vnzla81
12-02-2012, 12:18 AM
Why throw that out there? Or should we talk about the absolute stupendous defense AND offense being played by Mr George?

We know George and the pacers especially are not really that good at defending the pick and roll, the Pacers have two slow footers on the front court reason why they are not that at good defending it.

Eleazar
12-02-2012, 12:19 AM
I choose poorly.

That is a reference I understand.

Nuntius
12-02-2012, 12:19 AM
We needed that 3, Green.

vnzla81
12-02-2012, 12:19 AM
Green just did something good, waiting for him to do something stupid right about.............. now.

Nuntius
12-02-2012, 12:20 AM
Young :happydanc

rock747
12-02-2012, 12:20 AM
Jarret Jack is abusing Augustin.

beast23
12-02-2012, 12:21 AM
We know George and the pacers especially are not really that good at defending the pick and roll, the Pacers have two slow footers on the front court reason why they are not that at good defending it.
Actually, George displays the same weakness tonight that he does every game, and that is off the ball defense. He simply loses his man whenever he is defending on the weak side of the court.

vnzla81
12-02-2012, 12:21 AM
Damn.

boombaby1987
12-02-2012, 12:21 AM
I knew that **** was going to happen.

LoneGranger33
12-02-2012, 12:22 AM
What would Derrick Rose think about all this celebrating?

AesopRockOn
12-02-2012, 12:22 AM
You kind of thought that would go in.

He was lining that **** up from the offensive foul call.

Nuntius
12-02-2012, 12:22 AM
Damn it, Jack :(

rock747
12-02-2012, 12:22 AM
Jarret Jack single handedly stopped that run.

vnzla81
12-02-2012, 12:23 AM
If that shot doesn't go in the Pacers win.....

2minutes twoa
12-02-2012, 12:23 AM
You have to finish quarters!!

boombaby1987
12-02-2012, 12:24 AM
Who was the offensive foul called on that gave them that shot?

greyhound80
12-02-2012, 12:25 AM
Quinn called Brooke, Stacey...

Quinn is awful. Never have I heard a person talk more and say less.

Miller_time04
12-02-2012, 12:25 AM
Man they are hitting literally everything. 52%. We're shooting 47 they are just playing lights out.

Nuntius
12-02-2012, 12:26 AM
Nice drive, Ian.

vnzla81
12-02-2012, 12:26 AM
Good job Ian.

Goyle
12-02-2012, 12:27 AM
Ian has been pretty awesome on this West Coast trip

Dr. Awesome
12-02-2012, 12:28 AM
Jarret Jack single handedly stopped that run.

Vogel putting the bench in did that.

Pacerized
12-02-2012, 12:28 AM
Let's just get the starters in for the final 11 min.

greyhound80
12-02-2012, 12:29 AM
A put back!!!

Nuntius
12-02-2012, 12:29 AM
Ian is having a good game.

vnzla81
12-02-2012, 12:29 AM
Hill is a beast.

greyhound80
12-02-2012, 12:29 AM
Golden State's first draft pick is playing a lot. Ours? Never plays.

Nuntius
12-02-2012, 12:30 AM
Amazing shot, Hill. Good job :)

Dr. Awesome
12-02-2012, 12:30 AM
Jarret Jack is abusing Augustin.
My grandma could abuse Augustine.

boombaby1987
12-02-2012, 12:30 AM
Man George Hill has that killer instinct. Nice to see.

vnzla81
12-02-2012, 12:30 AM
Vogel putting the bench in did that.

Not that the starters were doing that much either, just saying..

LucasRL13
12-02-2012, 12:30 AM
Hill in beast mode, we can win this

Dr. Awesome
12-02-2012, 12:30 AM
Golden State's first draft pick is playing a lot. Ours? Never plays.

...they have Harrison Barnes.

We have Miles ******* Plumlee.

The fact that our guy even has an NBA uniform is mind boggling.

Goyle
12-02-2012, 12:31 AM
Vogel putting the bench in did that.

Nah not this time. Ian, Green and Young all contributed nicely and cut it within 5. Jack is just killing it.

boombaby1987
12-02-2012, 12:31 AM
...they have Harrison Barnes.

We have Miles ******* Plumlee.

The fact that our guy even has an NBA uniform is mind boggling.



The Warriors had the 7th pick. We had the 26th. Your argument doesn't make sense.

Nuntius
12-02-2012, 12:32 AM
Golden State's first draft pick is playing a lot. Ours? Never plays.

Golden State has an injured starter and an awful back-up (that once was a good starter) in his position.

Pacers have their max player and a quite good back-up in his position.

LoneGranger33
12-02-2012, 12:32 AM
Golden State's first draft pick is playing a lot. Ours? Never plays.

Not a Mad Ants fan?

(Also, he's talking about Ezeli)

Dr. Awesome
12-02-2012, 12:32 AM
Not that the starters were doing that much either, just saying..

The starters can, the bench never has.

Sookie
12-02-2012, 12:32 AM
Vogel putting the bench in did that.

The bench was who went on the run. (well them + David West)

Thank God for George Hill.

And people need to quit hitting Tyler in the head. (Or Tyler could lose his money..)

edit: And I love Tyler..but take him out.

rock747
12-02-2012, 12:32 AM
Can't we stay on Jack?

Nuntius
12-02-2012, 12:33 AM
The Warriors had the 7th pick. We had the 26th. Your argument doesn't make sense.

He is talking about Ezeli.

Dr. Awesome
12-02-2012, 12:33 AM
The Warriors had the 7th pick. We had the 26th. Your argument doesn't make sense.

Regardless of his draft position, the fact that he has an NBA uniform is mind boggling.

beast23
12-02-2012, 12:34 AM
I have to say I never wanted the pacers to get rid of Jack. I loved him as a Pacer and I sulked when we let him leave.

boombaby1987
12-02-2012, 12:34 AM
Hansbrough did not flop Warriors announcers.

Nuntius
12-02-2012, 12:35 AM
the fact that he has an NBA uniform is mind boggling.

I'd say that the hate that Miles is receiving is mind boggling.

rel
12-02-2012, 12:35 AM
These warriors announcers are blind...T clearly got elbowed in the face

Pacerized
12-02-2012, 12:35 AM
Vogel is going to let the bench decide this game.

Nuntius
12-02-2012, 12:37 AM
Vogel is going to let the bench decide this game.

It wasn't the bench that let them get a lead in the 3rd quarter.

rock747
12-02-2012, 12:37 AM
Beautiful 3 pt attempt

boombaby1987
12-02-2012, 12:37 AM
Man Gerald Green sucks.

rock747
12-02-2012, 12:37 AM
get a stop!

Dr. Awesome
12-02-2012, 12:37 AM
I'd say that the hate that Miles is receiving is mind boggling.

Its not his fault, but when a guy who averaged 7 points and 7 rebounds in his senior season gets selected in the first round, its ******* mind boggling. The hate is more towards the front office, not him.

beast23
12-02-2012, 12:38 AM
And people need to quit hitting Tyler in the head. (Or Tyler could lose his money...
So that's what happened to him. I never thought he had too much cents..... Er sense.

LoneGranger33
12-02-2012, 12:38 AM
They can't miss!

Nuntius
12-02-2012, 12:38 AM
Its not his fault, but when a guy who averaged 7 points and 7 rebounds in his senior season gets selected in the first round, its ******* mind boggling. The hate is more towards the front office, not him.

Please, tell me more about how the NCAA is the same as the NBA.

rock747
12-02-2012, 12:39 AM
go after the o rebound hibbert...

vnzla81
12-02-2012, 12:39 AM
Please, tell me more about how the NCAA is the same as the NBA.

It's not that is why.

Nuntius
12-02-2012, 12:39 AM
Good timeout by Jackson.

Nuntius
12-02-2012, 12:40 AM
It's not that is why.

You're not making any sense here, mate :/

Saras
12-02-2012, 12:40 AM
Unfortunate game kind of, a lot of guys played well. Jack made some ridicilous shots tonight.

boombaby1987
12-02-2012, 12:41 AM
Wow that is a telling that. 68% shooting for their bench tonight.

rock747
12-02-2012, 12:42 AM
dick bavetta never fails...

Nuntius
12-02-2012, 12:42 AM
Horrible foul here. He had lost him anyway :(

boombaby1987
12-02-2012, 12:43 AM
Man is Paul George dissapointing.

LoneGranger33
12-02-2012, 12:43 AM
I need a .gif of that Sam Young drive.

rock747
12-02-2012, 12:43 AM
man... they were due to hit an open 3

boombaby1987
12-02-2012, 12:44 AM
What a dissapointing game. So many chances. Man are Roy Hibbert and Paul George playing horrendous offensively.

rock747
12-02-2012, 12:44 AM
I need a .gif of that Sam Young drive.

haha

Dr. Awesome
12-02-2012, 12:44 AM
Please, tell me more about how the NCAA is the same as the NBA.

Please tell me how a guy who was 2/3 years more matured and 2/3 inches taller than most of the guys he played against suppose to suddenly dominate against people his size with actual skills?

I never claimed they were the same game. However, I watched him, if I had to guess, a lot more than you. I love in NC, you can't walk into a bar without Duke being on during games. I understand some players play up to the competition and get better at each level, however he averaged 7 points and 7 rebounds AS A SENIOR. Had he done that as a Fresh or Soph, sure, theres a room for growth, as a senior? Not so much.

Hopefully he proves me wrong, I'd love it. Pacers could use another big body.

Saras
12-02-2012, 12:44 AM
Pacers are probably the dumbest team in NBA. Imagine if they would add McGee...

vnzla81
12-02-2012, 12:44 AM
To be fair if Golden State doesn't hit all those open shots like the Lakers the Pacers win this....

2minutes twoa
12-02-2012, 12:45 AM
Officiating has been pathetic!! Weak offensive foul calls and no calls at critical points in the game! I don't know how Vogel has kept his temper!