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avoidingtheclowns
11-23-2012, 02:34 PM
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Season Records: (W-L)




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http://i49.tinypic.com/e1589d.png<center>Home: 4-1
West: 3-2</center>



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http://i49.tinypic.com/e1589d.png<center>Away: 5-1
East: 2-1</center>

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http://www.nba.com/tvc/image/assets/wordmarks/IND_wordmark.png Projected Starting Lineup:



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<center>HIBBERT</center>
<center>WEST</center>
<center>GEORGE</center>
<center>STEPHENSON</center>
<center>HILL</center>



http://www.nba.com/tvc/image/assets/wordmarks/SAS_wordmark.png Projected Starting Lineup:



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<center>BLAIR</center>
<center>DUNCAN</center>
<center>GREEN</center>
<center>NEAL</center>
<center>PARKER</center>

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PACERS
Danny Granger - left knee tendinosis (out)
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SPURS
Kawhi Leonard - tendinitis, left knee (out)
Stephen Jackson - fractured right finger (out)



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Semi-Relevant Video:



After two years of game threading, I still cannot find any video
evidence on the interwebs of the Pacers beating the Spurs. So until
the Pacers decide to beat the Spurs, I'll keep posting completely
irrelevant and potentially disturbing videos like...


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Eight Points, Nine Seconds Review:




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Jared Wade: Who Wants to Watch the Mediocrity Treadmill?

After nine games, Indiana has the second-worst offense in the league. Scoring only 92
points per 100 possessions, the Pacers are only bested in impotence by the winless
Washington Wizards. Things went from bad to worse this week, when the Pacers lost
on their home floor despite holding the Toronto Raptors to five fourth-quarter points,
then completely mailed in a game in Milwaukee.

At a 2011 conference dedicated to sports statistics, Kevin Pritchard coined — or at
least popularized — the phrase “mediocrity treadmill.” This NBA phenomenon, which
in broad terms is created by the rules governing salaries and player movement, is
something he suggested should be avoided at all costs. Its premise is simple: there is
no point in trying to put together an average team, so if you can’t shoot for the stars
then you should burn down your team and bury it underground.

Try to be great or try to be horrible, those are the only two ways to compete.

The problem with being average is that it is very expensive to do so and it
necessitates locking many middling players into long-term guaranteed contracts. And
in the process, you lose not only a legitimate shot to compete with the league’s elite
teams but also all financial flexibility to improve your team. So if you can’t acquire a
few truly great players who can carry you to a title, you should just liquidate the
roster and stock up on draft picks and young, improving players on rookie contracts
(which the collective bargaining agreement keeps artificially cheap no matter how
talented they are). The salary cap just doesn’t permit you to sign enough middle-of-
the-road, $8 million-per-year players to field a contender, so you need to bottom out,
clear cap space and retool the roster around a few highly productive players who earn
$15 million and a few more who make under $5 million.

The Pacers, much to the chagrin of most national basketball writers I have seen
discuss the subject, refused to bottom out. They have tried to take the mediocrity
treadmill route. Rather than admit their early millenium run was over and falling to
bottom of the standings — like the Heat, Nets Grizzlies and Timberwolves — the Pacers
haven’t won fewer than 32 games in any season since 1989. (It should be noted that
when Pritchard discussed the mediocrity treadmill at that MIT stats conference, he had
yet to be hired by the Pacers in any official capacity.)

One of the suspected motivations for the Pacers’ refusal to bottom out — and the one I
subscribe to — is that the franchise quite literally couldn’t afford to. After the Brawl, the
team’s fanbase was so turned off, so disgusted that those in power believed that a string
of sub-25-win seasons might lead to financial losses so large that it might force to owner
to sell. At worst, the result — especially if no Deron Williamses, Marc Gasols or Kevin
Loves were acquired, which is always a risk — could be the end of the Pacers in Indiana.
Or, less bad but still unacceptable, the franchise could get bad and stay bad for years
while owner Herb Simon took eight-figure financial losses each year for a decade as he
watched his team spiral the drain of irrelevance and futility.

Thus, their decision was at least understandable if still unpalatable. The on-court result
wasn’t pretty (Troy Murphy was second on the team in shots one year), but last year’s
attendance figures did start to show that the team’s paying fanbase, many members of
which swore off the team forever during the Jail Pacers era, was growing.

Coming into this season with high expectations, it looked like the Pacers had outrun the
mediocrity treadmill. Maybe they couldn’t beat the Heat, but they seemed to have a legit
shot at making the Eastern Conference Finals, and they would certainly once again be a
product worth watching.

But something funny happened on the way to the bank: The Pacers may have become
terrible...CONTINUE READING AT 8p9s (http://www.eightpointsnineseconds.com/2012/11/who-wants-to-watch-the-mediocrity-treadmill/)


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48 Minutes of Hell Preview:




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Jesse Blanchard: Injuries and the wrong kind of small ball

Size remains a premium in the NBA, even as the league trends smaller and quicker.
Since their first round playoff loss to the Memphis Grizzlies, the San Antonio Spurs
have been perceived as especially vulnerable to teams with large frontlines.

While head coach Gregg Popovich continues to audition frontcourt partners for Tim
Duncan—with Matt Bonner making a case for more playing time last night—the Spurs
had quietly upgraded and deployed size in less obvious ways than bringing in another
seven-foot shot blocker.

In trading George Hill for Kawhi Leonard and bringing back Stephen Jackson, gone
were the days of three guard lineups that stressed the Spurs defensive rotations
against any team with even a modicum of size on the wings. With two oversized
wings, the Spurs had an endless amount of roster versatility at their disposal and a
framework for better defense.

“With length at the two and three positions, often times can lend itself to a little bit
better overall defense,” Popovich said a season ago. “More deflections, more
contested shots, better rebounding, crowding the court a little bit more. All kinds of
little things that add up to big things can happen with bigger people.”

With Stephen Jackson out for a 4-6 weeks with a broken finger, and Kawhi Leonard
expected to be out for two weeks, the Spurs figure to be hurting for size.

“It’s difficult to lose any player, especially if you lost your starting small forward a
couple of games before,” Manu Ginobili said when asked about Jackson’s injury
after the game. “We’re going to be shorthanded for a while and we’ll have to figure
it out. It’s going to be hard but it’s a good test for us.”

Against the Los Angeles Clippers the Spurs failed that test. While the initial defense
remained stout in the fourth quarter, forcing the Clippers into a number of difficult,
contested shots, any defensive rotation from the frontcourt left the Spurs vulnerable
on the glass—which the Clippers exploited to great effect.

It remains to be seen what...CONTINUE READING AT 48 MINUTES OF HELL (http://www.48minutesofhell.com/injuries-and-the-wrong-kind-of-small-ball)

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140 Characters of (Non-PD) Coverage



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Pacers
Mike Wells @MikeWellsNBA (https://twitter.com/#!/MikeWellsNBA)
Jared Wade @8pts9secs (https://twitter.com/#!/8pts9secs)
Tim Donahue @TimDonahue8p9s (https://twitter.com/#!/TimDonahue8p9s)
Tom Lewis @indycornrows (https://twitter.com/#!/IndyCornrows)


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Spurs
Jeff McDonald @JMcDonald_SAEN (https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN)
Andrew McNeill @drew_48MoH (https://twitter.com/drew_48MoH)
Aaron McGuire @docrostov (https://twitter.com/docrostov)
Pounding the Rock @poundingtherock (https://twitter.com/poundingtherock)


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Trader Joe
11-23-2012, 04:07 PM
Yay, we can get to .500 just in time for 4 straight road games, thanks NBA!

I saw today the Grizz who have the best record in the West are just now playing their 11th game of the season tonight. We will be playing our 14th of which 8 have been on the road and then when we get a 4 game road trip.

OlBlu
11-23-2012, 04:19 PM
Yay, we can get to .500 just in time for 4 straight road games, thanks NBA!

I saw today the Grizz who have the best record in the West are just now playing their 11th game of the season tonight. We will be playing our 14th of which 8 have been on the road and then when we get a 4 game road trip.

That schedule and making adjustments to not having Granger are what is causing the slow start. If they can keep near .500 until this turns around, they should be in pretty good shape....:cool:

Nuntius
11-23-2012, 04:49 PM
I don't expect a win tonight.

However, I really hope that Hibbert and PG are going to have good games. If Hibbert ends the game with a double double and a few blocks on Duncan and PG scores 20 and grabs 6-8 rebounds it would be a great morale boost for them and it could turn the season around for us.

So, above everything I want to see a good performance by those two. Not that I wouldn't love a win. I'd love it :)

Let's wish for the best, guys. Gooooooooooooooo :D

IUfan4life
11-23-2012, 05:38 PM
No Leonard. No Jackson. If we make any shots this game we have a pretty good chance to win.

Johanvil
11-23-2012, 05:52 PM
As an eternal optimist,I expect a heaving beating from the Spurs.

BlueCollarColts
11-23-2012, 06:45 PM
That schedule and making adjustments to not having Granger are what is causing the slow start. If they can keep near .500 until this turns around, they should be in pretty good shape....:cool:
I 100% agree with this, we have struggled but most of our games were on the road, on a happy note we are 4-1 at home this season so we should have a stretch of a lot of home games coming up.

OlBlu
11-23-2012, 06:47 PM
I 100% agree with this, we have struggled but most of our games were on the road, on a happy note we are 4-1 at home this season so we should have a stretch of a lot of home games coming up.


I expect then to make a run at the Spurs tonight. Road games are hard for all teams....:cool: This team will come around, patience grasshoppers....:dance:

kmjohnson
11-23-2012, 06:52 PM
I expect then to make a run at the Spurs tonight. Road games are hard for all teams....:cool: This team will come around, patience grasshoppers....:dance:

I really don't understand what I'm reading... Two positive posts from OlBlu in the same thread?!?! Haha. Just ribbing ya OlBlu. I think we are in for a nice run to start tonight. Keeping my fingers crossed.

BlueCollarColts
11-23-2012, 06:52 PM
i really do like our chances in this game, the Pacers are probably really confident right now, Hibbert just had a triple double, first of his career, Paul George just had his career high in points (37) last night, so you know they are feeling good and the team just won back to back games for the first time this season, plus San Antonio is minus to key players in Kawhi Leonard and Stephen Jackson, I think we have a shot

OlBlu
11-23-2012, 06:56 PM
I really don't understand what I'm reading... Two positive posts from OlBlu in the same thread?!?! Haha. Just ribbing ya OlBlu. I think we are in for a nice run to start tonight. Keeping my fingers crossed.

I haven't been negative about the Pacers. I think management in a small market is doing about as well as they can..... I have lots of problems with the Colts and Irsay but the Simon family is a class act. They may make mistakes but their hearts are always in the right place. I don't mind mistakes. I don't tolerate outright lies well but since you bring it up, how about that RGIII.. Two games in a row that Mr. Luck will have trouble matching....:cool: I didn't want you to think I have gone soft.....

Johanvil
11-23-2012, 07:35 PM
Oh and Hibbert vs Duncan.Enough said...
Really hope Roy will turn this (offensively) around but i definitely can't see him doing it tonight.

MiaDragon
11-23-2012, 08:08 PM
Oh and Hibbert vs Duncan.Enough said...
Really hope Roy will turn this (offensively) around but i definitely can't see him doing it tonight.

I dont have the time to check the stats but Roy seems to do well against Duncan.

Eleazar
11-23-2012, 08:29 PM
Oh and Hibbert vs Duncan.Enough said...
Really hope Roy will turn this (offensively) around but i definitely can't see him doing it tonight.

Hibberts trouble have nothing to do with a single player. 1 v 1 Hibbert can beat anyone. The only type of players he struggles against are short stout players who are strong and have a low center of gravity. That isn't Duncan. Hibbert has a history of strong performances against Duncan and Howard.

Johanvil
11-23-2012, 08:37 PM
We must have been watching different games then.Whenever i have seen Hibbert against Duncan not only he was terrible,but also **** scared.Let me remind you that I'm talking about his offense.
The last game at San Antonio is still fresh.

Lance George
11-23-2012, 08:45 PM
I dont have the time to check the stats but Roy seems to do well against Duncan.

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pacers74
11-23-2012, 08:52 PM
I want to hope for a win, but I really am just hoping we play a close game. Please, no 20 point blow out.

BobbyMac
11-23-2012, 08:56 PM
This is the night for a big WIN! GO PACERS!

kmjohnson
11-23-2012, 09:02 PM
Watching from South Korea, and LP just kicked in. So happy to hear Chris and Quinn's voices! haha.

Sparhawk
11-23-2012, 09:06 PM
As long as Lance is involved more, the Pacers can get the win. :D

Nuntius
11-23-2012, 09:09 PM
The last game at San Antonio is still fresh.

And as basketball reference pointed out that game was an outlier ;)

LucasRL13
11-23-2012, 09:09 PM
It's Paul George time!!

COME ON PACERS

Magic P
11-23-2012, 09:10 PM
When was the last time Hibbert won the opening tip?

Nuntius
11-23-2012, 09:14 PM
That last offensive possession was a beauty :)

Nuntius
11-23-2012, 09:15 PM
Roy with the J :happydanc

Dece
11-23-2012, 09:17 PM
If we could stop giving them warm-up jumpers our chance of winning would increase significantly.

vnzla81
11-23-2012, 09:17 PM
Good offense so far.

Nuntius
11-23-2012, 09:17 PM
Our offense looks better but the Spurs are among the hardest teams to guard for us.

Heisenberg
11-23-2012, 09:18 PM
Our offense looks better but the Spurs are among the hardest teams to guard.
fixed that for you

Eleazar
11-23-2012, 09:18 PM
When was the last time Hibbert won the opening tip?

Eh who cares. This isn't like football where you only get around 10 or so possessions.

dal9
11-23-2012, 09:18 PM
Man Hibbert is slow (out of shape?) when you're not even close to keeping up with a 38 year old Tim Duncan, in the first quarter, that is a problem.

vnzla81
11-23-2012, 09:19 PM
I wonder what Seth is thinking while watching his two man crushes playing against each other in West and Blair? they both suck on D by the way.

Eleazar
11-23-2012, 09:21 PM
Hill is getting owned on the defensive end.

Nuntius
11-23-2012, 09:21 PM
fixed that for you

Well, yeah :laugh:

Pacergeek
11-23-2012, 09:22 PM
why is green already in for Lance. I hate frank's arbitrary substitution patterns

vnzla81
11-23-2012, 09:23 PM
Parker is on fire.

Nuntius
11-23-2012, 09:23 PM
Nice pass, Hibs. That seemed like a great offensive possession as well.

Heisenberg
11-23-2012, 09:26 PM
all in all, I'm fairly encouraged. Spurs aren't gonna keep hitting 70%.

Pacergeek
11-23-2012, 09:26 PM
so Paul George is coming off his best game as a pro, and we do nothing to try and get him involved in the game offensively. Do something Frank!

Eleazar
11-23-2012, 09:27 PM
all in all, I'm fairly encouraged. Spurs aren't gonna keep hitting 70%.

With the way Hill has played defense they might. They aren't making tough shots, most of them are pretty easy shots.

Heisenberg
11-23-2012, 09:27 PM
so Paul George is coming off his best game as a pro, and we do nothing to try and get him involved in the game offensively. Do something Frank!
not like we forced much to him last game. Hornets just kept leaving him open.

Nuntius
11-23-2012, 09:28 PM
Nice one, Hill :)

Eleazar
11-23-2012, 09:28 PM
not like we forced much to him last game. Hornets just kept leaving him open.

Yeah, the only players we really focus on getting the ball on offense are Hibbert and West.

Heisenberg
11-23-2012, 09:29 PM
bench mob. uh oh.

Ace E.Anderson
11-23-2012, 09:29 PM
Hill can't guard TP, but I don't think Parker can guard George very well either. Look to score!!!

Edit: or pick up a foul lol

Sparhawk
11-23-2012, 09:30 PM
All backups are in. Oh boy.

Pacergeek
11-23-2012, 09:30 PM
Frank "arbitrary substitution pattern" Vogel

Heisenberg
11-23-2012, 09:31 PM
DJ's due at least a mediocre game, right?

repole
11-23-2012, 09:31 PM
Gerald Green post up sighting!

D0NT SH0OT ME
11-23-2012, 09:32 PM
Gerald Green post up sighting!

Unfortunately he had to bring the ball up the court to get himself one.

Heisenberg
11-23-2012, 09:33 PM
3 points, ok, not bad

LucasRL13
11-23-2012, 09:33 PM
Good first quarter, HIBBERT

Ace E.Anderson
11-23-2012, 09:34 PM
With Parker going absolutely bananas (like he did against Rondo nd the C's) we're only down by 3.

Crowd seems to be pretty live in here right now!

repole
11-23-2012, 09:34 PM
Unfortunately he had to bring the ball up the court to get himself one.

I'll take what I can get at this point. Hell, I'm excited about a post up that he passed out of.

LoneGranger33
11-23-2012, 09:35 PM
Might need to put PG on Parker. Our non-Parker defense is solid.

pathil275
11-23-2012, 09:35 PM
Good 1st quarter despite the Spurs hitting like every shot.
Tony Parker is all I want out of a point guard - A+ ball handling, A+ speed as well as good court vision and a good shooting touch.

Heisenberg
11-23-2012, 09:36 PM
Mahinmi hands

Nuntius
11-23-2012, 09:37 PM
Nice one, Ian :)

eric1516
11-23-2012, 09:37 PM
Excellent offensive reb by Hansbrough.

vnzla81
11-23-2012, 09:38 PM
DJ is looking good today.

D0NT SH0OT ME
11-23-2012, 09:39 PM
I'll take what I can get at this point. Hell, I'm excited about a post up that he passed out of.

Still, it would be nice if Frank let the bench play to their strengths all the time.

Eleazar
11-23-2012, 09:39 PM
Young would be a much better asset if he was a better free throw shooter. He has a knack of getting fouled when he drives.

cdash
11-23-2012, 09:39 PM
They just look better and more cohesive tonight.

Heisenberg
11-23-2012, 09:39 PM
Young's awesome on the baseline

Nuntius
11-23-2012, 09:40 PM
Green :happydanc

DGPR
11-23-2012, 09:41 PM
DJ with his best game as a Pacer

Pacergeek
11-23-2012, 09:41 PM
DJ explosion!!!

eric1516
11-23-2012, 09:41 PM
How in the world did DJ make that? I'll take it though!

Nuntius
11-23-2012, 09:41 PM
Nice shot, DJ :)

Ace E.Anderson
11-23-2012, 09:41 PM
DJ!!! Lol finally looking like the guy we thought we were getting in the off season

Hypnotiq
11-23-2012, 09:41 PM
DJSANITY

pathil275
11-23-2012, 09:43 PM
I like what Hansbrough is doing. Actually I like what he has done so far this season. Less of a black hole, better rebounder and he gets to the line.

Nuntius
11-23-2012, 09:45 PM
Hans :happydanc

eric1516
11-23-2012, 09:45 PM
Way to stay with it, Hansbrough!

Heisenberg
11-23-2012, 09:45 PM
man, Frank and those awful rotations, know what I mean?

Heisenberg
11-23-2012, 09:46 PM
tyler's got 11 boards already

Nuntius
11-23-2012, 09:46 PM
Wow, Ian :-o

Heisenberg
11-23-2012, 09:47 PM
how much you think Diaw ate yesterday?

LucasRL13
11-23-2012, 09:48 PM
WOW, Thats the team we are expecting in the off season.
Ian, DJ, everymember is contributing

eric1516
11-23-2012, 09:48 PM
Ian looked like he was trying to re-create Jordan's free throw line dunk.

Pacergeek
11-23-2012, 09:48 PM
If that's Lebron instead of Green standing there, it would've been a charge 100 percent of the time.

Nuntius
11-23-2012, 09:49 PM
Lol at that TO :laugh:

ensergio
11-23-2012, 09:50 PM
In love with Hansbrough's rebounding.

Eleazar
11-23-2012, 09:50 PM
Ian is our leading scorer. O_o

15th parallel
11-23-2012, 09:50 PM
This is what our bench should look like! Go Pacers!

LucasRL13
11-23-2012, 09:50 PM
Only 3 turnovers in the mid 2nd quarter

Magic P
11-23-2012, 09:51 PM
This time our staters got us in a deficit and our bench brought us back.

Pacergeek
11-23-2012, 09:52 PM
If that's Splitter instead of Duncan there, zero percent chance of a foul being called

Mr_Smith
11-23-2012, 09:53 PM
Spurs getting all the calls

Eleazar
11-23-2012, 09:55 PM
If that's Splitter instead of Duncan there, zero percent chance of a foul being called

Yes, but lets be honest, the refs have turned a blind eye to a Hibbert foul on blocked shots.

Magic P
11-23-2012, 09:56 PM
West looked at the ref and said "and one"

Mr_Smith
11-23-2012, 09:56 PM
Duncan with 3 fouls

Heisenberg
11-23-2012, 09:58 PM
Manu is OFF

ECKrueger
11-23-2012, 09:59 PM
West looked at the ref and said "and one"

...so, he took a shot?

Pacergeek
11-23-2012, 09:59 PM
Does Roy think he is Rik Smits all of a sudden?

LucasRL13
11-23-2012, 10:00 PM
This is Pacers!!

We are playing a great game, against one of the best 3 teams in the league, without our best player

Mr_Smith
11-23-2012, 10:00 PM
Lovin the play so far...gonna have to play like this from here on out to win

Ace E.Anderson
11-23-2012, 10:01 PM
Another good controlled, floor game by Hill. Now if only he could stop Parker lol.

I like how we are looking offensively. Everyone is involved and we are looking to run.

3rdStrike
11-23-2012, 10:01 PM
Great first half offensively for the Pacers. Roy shooting that hook shot is pretty much conceding a possession, but beyond that I continue to be impressed with the flow. Lance has nice percentages, but he's so much better than the box scores indicate. He's almost there. Once he gets there it will be a problem for the league.

And Paul George, it's like he read my comments from the last game. He's scoring and I don't think he's even taken a three. I hope they keep it up and pull out the win. AND PLAY SOME INSIDE DEFENSE.

Sparhawk
11-23-2012, 10:05 PM
Great first half offensively for the Pacers. Roy shooting that hook shot is pretty much conceding a possession, but beyond that I continue to be impressed with the flow. Lance has nice percentages, but he's so much better than the box scores indicate. He's almost there. Once he gets there it will be a problem for the league.

And Paul George, it's like he read my comments from the last game. He's scoring and I don't think he's even taken a three. I hope they keep it up and pull out the win. AND PLAY SOME INSIDE DEFENSE.

He just shot and made his 1st 3. :D

Eleazar
11-23-2012, 10:05 PM
And Paul George, it's like he read my comments from the last game. He's scoring and I don't think he's even taken a three.

Speak of the devil.

Ace E.Anderson
11-23-2012, 10:05 PM
Good pass
good shot
Great play!

LucasRL13
11-23-2012, 10:05 PM
PAUL GEORGE, great assist by Hill.
If Paul scores 20, OMG, this is the transformation, on Paul George on BEAST MODE

IrishPacer
11-23-2012, 10:06 PM
This is Pacers basketball.

D0NT SH0OT ME
11-23-2012, 10:07 PM
Augustin with 5 assists and points at the half while shooting 50%. Who would have thought his best game so far would come against our toughest opponent?

Nuntius
11-23-2012, 10:08 PM
Amazing half. Just keep up this performance in the second half and I'm not going to care about the result.

Goooooooooooo :happydanc:happydanc:happydanc

Eleazar
11-23-2012, 10:09 PM
Hibbert needs to get his hook shot back in line. It has been consistent this season, but it has been consistently short.

Magic P
11-23-2012, 10:09 PM
...so, he took a shot?

Yeah he got fouled on the shot and missed then looked at the ref and said "and one" like the ref was going to award him with a potential three point play.

D0NT SH0OT ME
11-23-2012, 10:10 PM
Best stat of the game so far, only 3 turnovers.

D0NT SH0OT ME
11-23-2012, 10:12 PM
Stat that concerns me: The Spurs are 0-10 from three and we are only winning by four. They aren't going to shoot that poorly from deep for the second half.

1984
11-23-2012, 10:12 PM
Did last years team return against Washington? Better late than never.

Eleazar
11-23-2012, 10:15 PM
Stat that concerns me: The Spurs are 0-10 from three and we are only winning by four. They aren't going to shoot that poorly from deep for the second half.

Yeah, but is Parker going to continue shooting 10-12? At this point I am going with they are canceling each other out.

Pacergeek
11-23-2012, 10:16 PM
I really hope SA isn't just coasting

IrishPacer
11-23-2012, 10:18 PM
Yeah he got fouled on the shot and missed then looked at the ref and said "and one" like the ref was going to award him with a potential three point play.

That just sounds like the typical David West shot tbh.

D0NT SH0OT ME
11-23-2012, 10:18 PM
Yeah, but is Parker going to continue shooting 10-12? At this point I am going with they are canceling each other out.

He isn't going to start jacking up heavily contested shots if that is what you are implying. He simply isn't that type of player. I expect him to end the night with at least 65% shooting from the field. He is going to keep taking what we give him, and if that's not there he isn't going to force anything.

1984
11-23-2012, 10:20 PM
Paul and Roy are different men, this is no accident. Their confidence is back, and I hope they can get a couple of good games to solidify that mentality.

Eleazar
11-23-2012, 10:21 PM
He isn't going to start jacking up heavily contested shots if that is what you are implying. He simply isn't that type of player. I expect him to end the night with at least 65% shooting from the field. He is going to keep taking what we give him, and if that's not there he isn't going to force anything.

Stop with the jumps in logic. I am simply using the same law of averages you are.

1984
11-23-2012, 10:21 PM
Bad start.

1984
11-23-2012, 10:22 PM
It's good to see Paul make a mistake and make up for a mistake, again that is confidence. Then? Roy hits the jumper. Nice.

Pacergeek
11-23-2012, 10:23 PM
Lance continues to shoot well

1984
11-23-2012, 10:23 PM
I'd love Tony Parker on this team, that guy does very little that is wrong.

1984
11-23-2012, 10:24 PM
When Duncan gets a look like that, you might as well get ready to inbound the ball.

Heisenberg
11-23-2012, 10:24 PM
man, once that hook starts falling again

1984
11-23-2012, 10:25 PM
DWest... Needs a new nickname I nominate, "The Grimace".

Pacergeek
11-23-2012, 10:25 PM
So does David only yell "And one" when there is no chance of an "and one"

D0NT SH0OT ME
11-23-2012, 10:26 PM
Stop with the jumps in logic. I am simply using the same law of averages you are.

Why are you getting aggressive? I was just answering your question....

1984
11-23-2012, 10:26 PM
So does David only yell "And one" when there is no chance of an "and one" Hmmm...

Heisenberg
11-23-2012, 10:26 PM
West deserves that. he shoved Parker.

Pacergeek
11-23-2012, 10:27 PM
I sometimes with that David West would just KO somebody, just to solidify his bad *** reputation

Heisenberg
11-23-2012, 10:28 PM
Blair doesn't have a prayer of guarding West

1984
11-23-2012, 10:29 PM
The offense is completely different. This is not an issue of hitting and missing. The court spreading is fantastic and the ball movement is efficient. Meanwhile the confidence of the team continues to soar.

Heisenberg
11-23-2012, 10:29 PM
da da da - da da da

that's the Sportscenter music

cdash
11-23-2012, 10:29 PM
That was awesome.

IrishPacer
11-23-2012, 10:29 PM
That was sick Lance.

Kemo
11-23-2012, 10:29 PM
hahaha wow Lance... that was Jordan-esque

1984
11-23-2012, 10:30 PM
Lance Stephenson has arrived my friends, and it is going to be a fun ride.

eric1516
11-23-2012, 10:30 PM
If that move by Lance doesn't make the top ten plays of the day I'll be shocked ;)

Heisenberg
11-23-2012, 10:30 PM
hahaha wow Lance... that was Jordan-esque
slow down lol

Nuntius
11-23-2012, 10:30 PM
Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaance :happydanc:happydanc:happydanc

aceace
11-23-2012, 10:30 PM
Parker to the locker room to get ankles re-taped

90'sNBARocked
11-23-2012, 10:30 PM
;)

1984
11-23-2012, 10:30 PM
Are we going to be able to afford to pay Lance?

Dr. Hibbert
11-23-2012, 10:31 PM
Parker's gonna need an x-ray on those ankles. They're in pieces after that move.

Pacergeek
11-23-2012, 10:31 PM
Shake of the year!! Holy ****!!!

eric1516
11-23-2012, 10:32 PM
I'm ok with each player having a breakout game over the next few games haha

Heisenberg
11-23-2012, 10:32 PM
we're up 17 on the Spurs

1984
11-23-2012, 10:32 PM
When a French guy like Parker gets moved on like that, do you say: "Pick up your panties" or "Pick up your lingerie"?

vnzla81
11-23-2012, 10:33 PM
This is the first I'm noticing that Neal is not an smart player.

Heisenberg
11-23-2012, 10:34 PM
Lance's reputation precedes him

vnzla81
11-23-2012, 10:34 PM
That was a bs call on Lance.

3rdStrike
11-23-2012, 10:34 PM
Only the referees can stop Lance Stephenson.

Eleazar
11-23-2012, 10:34 PM
Lance's reputation precedes him

Yeah, he was simple going for the blockout in case it was a miss. Foul sure, tech no.

1984
11-23-2012, 10:35 PM
Refs are a bit trigger happy

Mr_Smith
11-23-2012, 10:35 PM
BS technical foul

1984
11-23-2012, 10:36 PM
The back door is open, Roy is going to have a triple double with assists.

Nuntius
11-23-2012, 10:36 PM
Hibby :happydanc

Heisenberg
11-23-2012, 10:37 PM
BLOW IT UP!

Eleazar
11-23-2012, 10:37 PM
George was bailed out there.

3rdStrike
11-23-2012, 10:37 PM
Take Sam Young out right now!

Ace E.Anderson
11-23-2012, 10:37 PM
It happened 10 mins ago but still...


Lmao @ Tony Parker!!

Mr_Smith
11-23-2012, 10:38 PM
Pacers have their hands around the spurs neck. Just gotta choke them now.

Lance George
11-23-2012, 10:38 PM
That technical foul on Stephenson was such obvious B.S. that it actually pissed me off a little. That had better be rescinded.

Heisenberg
11-23-2012, 10:40 PM
inbounds (out of a time out) sucked, but awesome transition D by Hans

Nuntius
11-23-2012, 10:40 PM
Uh-oh, Bonner is in.

Strummer
11-23-2012, 10:41 PM
Don't forget we have a Mad Ants game for dessert tonight. It's in the 4th quarter now. From what I've seen, the stream is good.

Dr. Hibbert
11-23-2012, 10:42 PM
Paul George should be yanked.

PGisthefuture
11-23-2012, 10:42 PM
It was good while it lasted...

Pacergeek
11-23-2012, 10:42 PM
Flop

Heisenberg
11-23-2012, 10:42 PM
Don't forget we have a Mad Ants game for dessert tonight. It's in the 4th quarter now. From what I've seen, the stream is good.
JaJuan Johnson with a near triple double

Dr. Hibbert
11-23-2012, 10:43 PM
Paul George's soft *** is costing the Pacers on both ends of the court. That guy is asleep out there.

1984
11-23-2012, 10:43 PM
Uh, oh.

Pacergeek
11-23-2012, 10:43 PM
Put Lance back in the game now Frank! He ignites our team, then finds the bench

Nuntius
11-23-2012, 10:43 PM
Ok, they closed the gap. Don't let them get any closer.

Hold on, guys.

3rdStrike
11-23-2012, 10:43 PM
Playing 4 on 5 any time Sam Young is on the floor, come on Frank. If you're sitting Lance put in anybody but Sam Young.

Mr_Smith
11-23-2012, 10:43 PM
Ok here they come...turnovers are killing us

clownskull
11-23-2012, 10:44 PM
at the game. In the nosebleeds. Parker torched hill a bunch tonight.
It has been worth the trip though- they are playing like they care.
Lance has made things happen he is pretty tough at attacking the rim.

1984
11-23-2012, 10:44 PM
It's hilarious when Chris tries to be cool.

pacer4ever
11-23-2012, 10:44 PM
JaJuan Johnson with a near triple double

Plumlee and OJ were awful they benched em and now the ants are making a comeback. But Plumee looks so lost and just like he doesn't care.

LoneGranger33
11-23-2012, 10:45 PM
Mahinmi's hands...

1984
11-23-2012, 10:46 PM
Plumlee has played so little, and he doesn't know the team. Give him a few weeks.

LoneGranger33
11-23-2012, 10:47 PM
That was a terrible, no offense line-up.

IrishPacer
11-23-2012, 10:47 PM
Wow.

1984
11-23-2012, 10:47 PM
Ugly end. We do not have a good rotation. Gerald Green is not an upgrade to Barbosa, at least Leandro must be guarded.

Pacergeek
11-23-2012, 10:47 PM
If we blow this, I'm blaming Vogel

1984
11-23-2012, 10:48 PM
When you play that line up, what do you anticipate will happen? Honestly, Frank.

Heisenberg
11-23-2012, 10:48 PM
conclusions being drawn on 6 minute stretches

Mr_Smith
11-23-2012, 10:49 PM
That was like a good and bad third quarter at the same damn time.

1984
11-23-2012, 10:49 PM
How has Orlando Johnson played? I have high hopes for him.

Eleazar
11-23-2012, 10:49 PM
That was a terrible, no offense line-up.

Not so much no offense, just not balanced. We still don't have a solid post scorer in on the bench.

1984
11-23-2012, 10:50 PM
Holy crap he stayed with that lineup. Holy crap!

Pacergeek
11-23-2012, 10:50 PM
Any chance SA would trade Splitter for Ian?

1984
11-23-2012, 10:50 PM
It's okay guys, Vogel encouraged the heck out of this lineup between the third and fourth quarter.

Eleazar
11-23-2012, 10:52 PM
Can we please run some picks on these out of bounds to get the PG open?

Nuntius
11-23-2012, 10:52 PM
Ok, put in Lance.

pacer4ever
11-23-2012, 10:52 PM
How has Orlando Johnson played? I have high hopes for him.

Not good. He has 5 quick 4th quarter points now. Nice and 1 but he has forced it way too much shot selection is really bad tonight. He is streaky though that's good and bad tonight its bad.

BornReady
11-23-2012, 10:52 PM
Any chance SA would trade Splitter for Ian?

haha...

Pacergeek
11-23-2012, 10:52 PM
What was Manu doing there exactly? Don't usually see defense like that on the inbounds passer

1984
11-23-2012, 10:54 PM
D.J. Augustin is beginning to become comfortable. I expect better production from him as the season progresses. Perhaps he finally understands that this offensive system is like Seinfield, a show about nothing.

Nuntius
11-23-2012, 10:55 PM
Gerald Greeeeeeeeeeeeen :happydanc:happydanc:happydanc

1984
11-23-2012, 10:55 PM
What's a Bonner?

Nuntius
11-23-2012, 10:55 PM
Sam Youuuuuuuuuung :happydanc:happydanc:happydanc

Pace Maker
11-23-2012, 10:55 PM
who is this guy and what did he do to DJ Augustine

LucasRL13
11-23-2012, 10:55 PM
SAM YOUNG AND GERALD GREEN, DJ Augustin having the best game by large this season

cdash
11-23-2012, 10:56 PM
Finally the bench looks semi competant.

1984
11-23-2012, 10:57 PM
IAN FREAKING MAHIMI

1984
11-23-2012, 10:58 PM
He fouled Augustin the most.

rock747
11-23-2012, 10:58 PM
just tuned in... looks like augustine showed up this game

1984
11-23-2012, 10:59 PM
Roy's defense has been first team the last few games.

Eleazar
11-23-2012, 10:59 PM
Bad foul Hibbert.

1984
11-23-2012, 10:59 PM
The Spurs are locked in, we'll have to step up and hit shots.

1984
11-23-2012, 11:00 PM
Roy's defense has been first team the last few games.

Face palm.

1984
11-23-2012, 11:00 PM
OH PLEASE OH PLEASE - Where's the foul?

Nuntius
11-23-2012, 11:01 PM
What a shot by Manu..

1984
11-23-2012, 11:02 PM
Has Paul George missed a three in 96 minutes?

vnzla81
11-23-2012, 11:02 PM
Damn Paul George is automatic from 3 now.

LucasRL13
11-23-2012, 11:02 PM
Paul George right now, is the best 3pt shooter in the NBA?
It looks like

Nuntius
11-23-2012, 11:02 PM
Paul ****ing George :happydanc:happydanc:happydanc

Good hustle, DJ. You corrected your mistake in the best possible way.

Goooooooooooooooooo :happydanc

3rdStrike
11-23-2012, 11:02 PM
I was wondering when Augustin would see Paul George open over here. He's only 6'10...and he certainly is locked in from down town.

IrishPacer
11-23-2012, 11:03 PM
DJ close to a double double off the bench?

Gold
11-23-2012, 11:03 PM
I'm loving Augustin right now!

Pace Maker
11-23-2012, 11:03 PM
Nice three by George.

If him and the rest of our other perimeter players were hitting those open looks in the first few games, we wouldn't have looked quite so bad.

LucasRL13
11-23-2012, 11:03 PM
8p and 8a by DJ, great game ;)

DGPR
11-23-2012, 11:04 PM
The offense has looked better the past couple of games, hopefully we can look at the first 10 games and laugh later on in the season.

1984
11-23-2012, 11:04 PM
8p and 8a by DJ, great game ;)

Time to go to the bench.

Nuntius
11-23-2012, 11:05 PM
David West :happydanc

rock747
11-23-2012, 11:06 PM
david west is a player that is hard to come by

3rdStrike
11-23-2012, 11:06 PM
If Paul George had just stayed left he would've had an easy layup, but defenders know he likes to dance and prefers the right side of the basket.

Nuntius
11-23-2012, 11:06 PM
George Hill :happydanc

vnzla81
11-23-2012, 11:09 PM
That was stupid Roy, you kick that outside and reset.

Magic P
11-23-2012, 11:09 PM
Hibbert you're a bum

Heisenberg
11-23-2012, 11:09 PM
dammit, that was in

rock747
11-23-2012, 11:09 PM
just make a shot hibbert

Eleazar
11-23-2012, 11:09 PM
Hibbert right now pass it out and take your time. No need to rush.

LoneGranger33
11-23-2012, 11:09 PM
What ****ing luck.

Nuntius
11-23-2012, 11:10 PM
That shot by Hibs went in and out :(

Heisenberg
11-23-2012, 11:10 PM
Hibbert you're a bum

yeah, not like he just gave us 3 extra possessions or anything

DGPR
11-23-2012, 11:10 PM
7'2" missing shots at the rim

IrishPacer
11-23-2012, 11:10 PM
So *****ing angry right now.

Roy, stop chucking up the ball if you have a ***** look. Just dig it out to George if you get the offensive board.

3rdStrike
11-23-2012, 11:10 PM
Hibbert probably just shot us out of this game. Stop w/ the hook shot, just stop it.

Johanvil
11-23-2012, 11:11 PM
yeah, not like he just gave us 3 extra possessions or anything

He ****ing wasted them too you know

LucasRL13
11-23-2012, 11:11 PM
We will lose, but this team is so different right now, right now we can see passion, heart, and all that stuff

Mr_Smith
11-23-2012, 11:11 PM
Roy can't score ****

Heisenberg
11-23-2012, 11:11 PM
He ****ing wasted them too you know

wasting possessions and missing shots aren't the same thing

Mad-Mad-Mario
11-23-2012, 11:12 PM
I really feel like we are going to regret the Hibbert contract in a few years. Young and can't play big minutes. His offensive game not only failed to improve but it seems to have regressed.

1984
11-23-2012, 11:12 PM
Hibbert probably just shot us out of this game. Stop w/ the hook shot, just stop it.

Nope. Shoot through it, it's right around the corner. When it begins to fall we will be contenders.

Nuntius
11-23-2012, 11:12 PM
Good job on earning that foul, Roy. Now please hit some shots, guys.

1984
11-23-2012, 11:12 PM
I really feel like we are going to regret the Hibbert contract in a few years. Young and can't play big minutes. His offensive game not only failed to improve but it seems to have regressed.

Anyone remember when Reggie had a half a season slump?

3rdStrike
11-23-2012, 11:13 PM
And they give it to Hibbert for the hook again. Wow.

1984
11-23-2012, 11:13 PM
Well, this is bad.

Mr_Smith
11-23-2012, 11:13 PM
Theres the game