PDA

View Full Version : 11/16/2012 Game Thread #10: Pacers Vs. Mavericks



Pages : [1] 2

avoidingtheclowns
11-16-2012, 04:52 PM
TEXAS HOLD'EM!



http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/.element/img/2.0/sect/gameinfo/teamlogos/IND.gif -VS-http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/.element/img/2.0/sect/gameinfo/teamlogos/DAL.gif


Game Time Start: 7:00 PM EST
Where: The Fieldhouse, Indianapolis, IN
Officials: S. Foster, M. Ayotte, M. Smith

Media Notes: Indiana Notes (http://www.nba.com/gamenotes/pacers.pdf), Dallas Notes (http://www.nba.com/gamenotes/mavericks.pdf)
Television: FOX Sports Indiana / FOX Sports Southwest
Radio: WFNI 1070 AM / KESN 103.3 FM, KFLC 1270 AM
NBA Feeds:
*NBA Audio League Pass (available free to NBA All-Access members) (http://www.nba.com/broadband/alp_schedule.html)
*NBA League Pass Broadband (subscription req'd) (http://www.nba.com/leaguepass/)



REMINDER: Per PD policy, please do not share a link to, describe how to search for, request a link to, or request a PM about streaming video of a NBA game that is not coming directly through the NBA. Not even in a "wink-wink, nudge-nudge, know-what-I-mean" round-about sort of way. Thank you :)



<tbody>

<tbody>

Season Records: (W-L)




:xpacers:

http://i49.tinypic.com/e1589d.pnghttp://i49.tinypic.com/e1589d.png<center>3-6</center>
http://i49.tinypic.com/e1589d.png<center>Home: 2-1
West: 1-2</center>



:mavericks:

http://i49.tinypic.com/e1589d.pnghttp://i49.tinypic.com/e1589d.png<center>5-4</center>
http://i49.tinypic.com/e1589d.png<center>Away: 1-3
East: 3-2</center>

</tbody>


<tbody>

Upcoming Games:



<center>Nov 18</center>
<center>Nov 19</center>
<center>Nov 21</center>
<center>Nov 23</center>



at :knicks:


at :wizards:


vs :hornets:


vs :spurs:




12:00pm


7:00pm


7:00pm


8:00pm


</tbody>


</tbody>



<tbody>

http://www.nba.com/tvc/image/assets/wordmarks/IND_wordmark.png Projected Starting Lineup:



<center>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/roy_hibbert.jpg</center>
<center>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/david_west.jpg</center>
<center>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/paul_george.jpg</center>
<center>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/lance_stephenson.jpg</center>
<center>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/george_hill.jpg</center>


<center>HIBBERT</center>
<center>WEST</center>
<center>GEORGE</center>
<center>STEPHENSON</center>
<center>HILL</center>



http://www.nba.com/tvc/image/assets/wordmarks/DAL_wordmark.png Projected Starting Lineup:



<center>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/chris_kaman.jpg</center>
<center>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/elton_brand.jpg</center>
<center>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/dahntay_jones.jpg</center>
<center>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/oj_mayo.jpg</center>
<center>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/darren_collison.jpg</center>


<center>KAMAN</center>
<center>BRAND</center>
<center>JONES</center>
<center>MAYO</center>
<center>COLLISON</center>

</tbody>



<tbody>
http://c.dryicons.com/images/icon_sets/medical_icons/png/128x128/medicine.png

http://i49.tinypic.com/e1589d.png
PACERS
Danny Granger - left knee tendinosis (out)
David West - right sprained ankle (day-to-day)
http://i49.tinypic.com/e1589d.png
http://i49.tinypic.com/e1589d.png
http://i49.tinypic.com/e1589d.png
MAVERICKS
Shawn Marion - right sprained MCL (probable)
Dirk Nowitzki - right knee surgery (out)



</tbody>



<tbody>

Minimally Relevant Video:



<iframe style="width: 560px" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Un_55LrZnCo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>


<iframe style="width: 560px" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/QGCrED-2v7o" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>

</tbody>



<tbody>

Semi-Relevant Video:



<iframe style="width: 560px" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/E_0bqpp_r_Q" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>

</tbody>



<tbody>

Eight Points, Nine Seconds:




http://i39.tinypic.com/nw1120.png (http://www.eightpointsnineseconds.com/)




Jonathan Auping: The Emergence of Darren Collison in Dallas


“He’s done this in other stops. I don’t know how many games he started
in Indiana, but he played well there as a starter. Then they made the
switch, then they made the trade. They decided to go with Hill.”
– Rick Carlisle on Darren Collison

The early-season struggles of the Pacers obviously have a whole lot to do with the
absence of Danny Granger. I am in no way trying to downplay anyone’s claim that the
team would be playing better with Granger in the lineup. However, let us not forget that
Granger is not the only member of last year’s Pacers who is not on the floor for them.

By playoff time last year it seemed apparent that at some point in the offseason the
Pacers would choose between either Darren Collison or George Hill. Hill was a free
agent who might demand a decent pay raise and neither player seemed to thrive while
having to split minutes. At times, it felt like Pacer fans had to be a part of either Team
Hill or Team Collison and they had to be willing to defend their stance.

And as you all know, the Pacers went with Hill. They gave him a $40 million contract
and shipped Collison to Dallas (along with Dahntay Jones for backup center Ian
Mahinmi).

The problem with Collison in Indiana seemed to be inconsistency and sometimes an
inability to stay involved. He gave good effort and seemingly had a good attitude, but
sometimes he just didn’t have a huge impact on the game. He was a capable scorer,
but when he tried to play the role of facilitator he looked more like a bystander. Fellow
8p9s writer Tim Donahue mentioned that this was always the case for Collison in
Indiana. He said that when Jim O’Brien was around, his coaching schemes were
blamed, but it remained the same under Frank Vogel.

Rick Carlisle is not having the same problems with Collison, however. Of course, we
are still working with a small sample size, but so far Collison is thriving in Dallas.

Before the Mavericks played the Raptors Wednesday night, Carlisle talked about what
he has seen from Collison since he’s been a member of the Mavericks. “(He’s) even-
tempered. He’s been aggressive. He’s made good decisions. He’s developing a feel for
attacking and being aggressive offensively.”

The feeling around those watching Collison this year is beginning to be that the point
guard is playing well because...CONTINUE READING AT 8p9s (http://www.eightpointsnineseconds.com/2012/11/the-emergence-of-darren-collison-in-dallas/)


</tbody>




<tbody>

Two Man Game:





http://i47.tinypic.com/5oup94.png
(http://www.thetwomangame.com/)



Travis Wimberly: Thermodynamics - Week 3

Last week around this time, the Mavs were flying high. They carried a 4-1 record and
possessed what looked to be one of the best offenses in the NBA. But after some poor
performances and a 1-3 record this week—including the franchise’s first-ever loss to
the Charlotte Bobcats—the Mavs have some work to do. But hey, at least they didn’t
fire their coach five games into the season.

Let’s take a look at the Mavs’ hottest and coldest performances from Week 3.
(Spoiler alert: Cold wins this week.)


F I R E

1) OJ Mayo
With a couple caveats, it was another strong week for the shooting guard affably
known as “Juice” (alternate nickname: “That guy who temporarily ruined USC’s
basketball program”). Mayo shot 29-of-61 (48%) in the Mavs’ four games this week,
including 10-of-20 (50%) from three-point range. He was the Mavs’ most consistent
and productive scorer by a considerable margin, averaging exactly 22 PPG. For the
season, Mayo’s true shooting percentage (64%) and effective field-goal percentage
(60%) both rank in the top fifteen in the league among guards who have played
more than negligible minutes. Mayo’s turnovers (3.5 per game this week) and
comfort within the offense both remain issues. But if the expectation is for Mayo to
be the team’s second scorer behind Dirk Nowitzki, he’s currently showing why that
expectation is entirely fair.

2) Chris Kaman’s Shooting
Having watched Kaman miss his first nine million (loose approximation) shots
against the Timberwolves on Monday night, my first inclination was that I wouldn’t
be able to put his shooting on the hot list this week. Once I crunched the weekly
numbers, however, Kaman made the cut even despite that bad outing. Kaman shot
a combined 23-of-39 (59%) in this week’s games, including terrific shooting
performances against the Knicks (86%) and the Wizards (83%). Only three starting
centers have higher true shooting percentages than Kaman (63%): Samuel
Dalembert, DeAndre Jordan, and Tyson Chandler. Along with Mayo, Kaman has
been the Mavs’ most effective scorer this season.

3) Uncle Ricky’s Temper
Somebody ought to put Rick Carlisle on blood-pressure watch, because his
numbers can’t be good after this week. First, he watched in Charlotte as his team
turned in a comical late-game performance featuring mistake after bizarre mistake.
When Carlisle reviewed the film of those final minutes against the Bobcats, one can
only assume that he did so while blasting the Benny Hill theme in the background,
driving around the room in a small plastic car, and sporting an oversized novelty
hat. Carlisle’s frustration from the Charlotte circus boiled over to the Mavs’
next game against Minnesota, a game that was less absurd but equally frustrating.
With five minutes left...CONTINUE READING AT TWO MAN GAME (http://www.thetwomangame.com/2012/11/thermodynamics-week-3/)

</tbody>




<tbody>

140 Characters of (Non-PD) Coverage



http://cdn5.iconfinder.com/data/icons/yooicons_set01_socialbookmarks/128/social_twitter_box_blue.png

http://i49.tinypic.com/e1589d.png
http://i49.tinypic.com/e1589d.png
Pacers
Mike Wells @MikeWellsNBA (https://twitter.com/#!/MikeWellsNBA)
Jared Wade @8pts9secs (https://twitter.com/#!/8pts9secs)
Tim Donahue @TimDonahue8p9s (https://twitter.com/#!/TimDonahue8p9s)
Tom Lewis @indycornrows (https://twitter.com/#!/IndyCornrows)


http://i49.tinypic.com/e1589d.png
http://i49.tinypic.com/e1589d.png
Mavericks
Dwain Price @DwainPrice (https://twitter.com/DwainPrice)
Ed Sefko @ESefko (https://twitter.com/ESefko)
Brian Gutierrez @BallinWithBryan (https://twitter.com/BallinWithBryan)
Kirk Henderson @KirkSeriousFace (https://twitter.com/KirkSeriousFace)


</tbody>

TMJ31
11-16-2012, 05:19 PM
I am genuinely happy to be playing a quality team tonight.

Look, the team's confidence (and apparently OUR confidence in them) is at an all-time low.

If we lose this game, well then I guess "we saw THAT coming... *flame*flame*flame*"

But if we manage to turn in a solid game and win tonight, it very well may be that spark we need for our confidence!

:gopacers:

xtacy
11-16-2012, 05:20 PM
i think this will turn into a collison show.

cgg
11-16-2012, 05:23 PM
Collison vs Hill will be interesting, regardless of whatever else happens.

BillS
11-16-2012, 05:26 PM
I'll be at the game and probably drinking heavily.

vnzla81
11-16-2012, 05:32 PM
Marion is going to be back I'm not sure if he is starting though.

LG33
11-16-2012, 05:50 PM
I'm going to say what everyone else is already thinking: We choose the wrong guy this offseason, and it's going to hurt us big time tonight. It's as simple as that. I was right, and I was the only one on the board smart enough and brave enough to say it. Dahntay Jones is a much better hype guy than Jeff Pendergraph.

Trophy
11-16-2012, 06:20 PM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/DvNTMIDaXTc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

BobbyMac
11-16-2012, 06:33 PM
Pacers 96
Mavs 91

immortality
11-16-2012, 06:37 PM
Collison vs Hill will be interesting, regardless of whatever else happens.

Yup, although Collison shouldn't have that much of a problem since Hill isn't strong or big like the point guards Collison has trouble with.

BlueCollarColts
11-16-2012, 06:43 PM
I think Pacers win and a big game from Gerald Green i think 15 points, i can feel it, when did D-West sprain his ankle?

Cactus Jax
11-16-2012, 06:55 PM
I really hope the Pacers surprise tonight and play well, but nothing has shown that will happen, and you know DC has had this pinned on his calendar since he was traded to Dallas.

vnzla81
11-16-2012, 06:59 PM
Kaman is going to be a hard matchup for Roy, Marion is going to be a hard matchup for Paul.

Johanvil
11-16-2012, 07:09 PM
I expect absolutely nothing from this game so any positive signs from the team will be a plus,let alone a win.

BlueCollarColts
11-16-2012, 07:11 PM
I found the answer to this team
my gut feeling: ORLANDO JOHNSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
On a serious note we need to give Augustin or lance a shot at starting PG, don't think Hill can run this team, he is more of a scorer

GeniusJMG
11-16-2012, 07:15 PM
Lance does need to be the point guard IMO and Hill could be our main scorer at SG.

GeniusJMG
11-16-2012, 07:16 PM
I expect absolutely nothing from this game so any positive signs from the team will be a plus,let alone a win.

True that

Trader Joe
11-16-2012, 07:38 PM
You know if this team follows the mentally weak Pacers platform of the past, then they will probably play up tonight and win.

Ace E.Anderson
11-16-2012, 07:39 PM
i think this will turn into a collison show.

Psyche. He couldn't guard Hill if his life depended on it.

Post up all day.

granger4mvp
11-16-2012, 07:42 PM
Faster free flowing offence hopefully it helps can't get much worse

vnzla81
11-16-2012, 07:54 PM
They are still in the locker room? Come on people hurry up.

Goyle
11-16-2012, 07:58 PM
LESS set plays? Is that possible?

TMJ31
11-16-2012, 07:58 PM
Hereeeee we go.

:gopacers:

Ace E.Anderson
11-16-2012, 07:59 PM
BRICK!! Nice shot DC

LG33
11-16-2012, 07:59 PM
Darren seems nervous.

TMJ31
11-16-2012, 08:00 PM
Loving our energy to start!

cgg
11-16-2012, 08:01 PM
Did what I think just happened really happen?

rock747
11-16-2012, 08:02 PM
Where was this intensity last game?

Ace E.Anderson
11-16-2012, 08:02 PM
LEGGO!!

I'm here at the game and like the body language so far

LucasRL13
11-16-2012, 08:02 PM
Career game by PG again baby

clownskull
11-16-2012, 08:03 PM
Loving our energy to start!

roy missed his ft's but it was nice to see him attack rather than toss up a wimpy lob that just clanks off the rim.

eric1516
11-16-2012, 08:03 PM
beautiful pass by Lance!

PacersForever
11-16-2012, 08:03 PM
What team is that out there ?

PGisthefuture
11-16-2012, 08:03 PM
I know it's early, but this feels more like the team we fell in love with last year.

rock747
11-16-2012, 08:05 PM
Man OJ mayo woulda been nice this season...

eric1516
11-16-2012, 08:06 PM
Nice post defense by Lance on Marion!

rock747
11-16-2012, 08:07 PM
How's the attendance for this game? anyone there?

PacersForever
11-16-2012, 08:09 PM
It looks like the plays we ran last year.

eric1516
11-16-2012, 08:10 PM
How's the attendance for this game? anyone there?

Judging from what I'm seeing on tv it looks low especially for a Friday.

rock747
11-16-2012, 08:15 PM
That midrange shot from collison was always money...

LucasRL13
11-16-2012, 08:15 PM
7p by George

LuckSwagger
11-16-2012, 08:15 PM
Why can't the Pacers ever build off a good start? The way they give up leads is just maddening.

TMJ31
11-16-2012, 08:16 PM
So this is what we look like when we're hitting our shots :)

cgg
11-16-2012, 08:16 PM
o m g its troy

Goyle
11-16-2012, 08:17 PM
Tyler vs Troy should be fun.

cgg
11-16-2012, 08:18 PM
Anyone vs Troy should be fun.

TMJ31
11-16-2012, 08:19 PM
When Sam Young is hitting 20 foot jumpers... We're doing alright.

TMJ31
11-16-2012, 08:20 PM
George got lucky there.

Need to take care of the ball and keep our offensive flow going.

Eleazar
11-16-2012, 08:21 PM
Mahinmi gets so many phantom fouls.

eric1516
11-16-2012, 08:22 PM
Great pick set for Hill to hit that jumper. Can we have more active offense like that please?

rock747
11-16-2012, 08:22 PM
Dahntay Jones spilling the beans on Pacer's plays... ha

eric1516
11-16-2012, 08:23 PM
Is it me or does Murphy look more cut? I don't remember looking as muscular when he was here.

LucasRL13
11-16-2012, 08:23 PM
1st solid quarter

LuckSwagger
11-16-2012, 08:24 PM
2-6 from the foul line. Really getting annoyed with the inability to make free throws.

TMJ31
11-16-2012, 08:25 PM
Dahntay Jones spilling the beans on Pacer's plays... ha

I missed it. What happened?

Eleazar
11-16-2012, 08:25 PM
3 assists each for Hill and Lance

jjbjjbjjb
11-16-2012, 08:26 PM
Seriously maybe the best quarter I've seen them play all year, and they're only tied, at home.

rock747
11-16-2012, 08:26 PM
I missed it. What happened?

Quinn commented on how Dahntay Jones was yelling out what was going to happen next in the Pacer's plays as they were unfolding.

Heisenberg
11-16-2012, 08:27 PM
Dahntay yelling things doesn't mean Dahntay's right

rock747
11-16-2012, 08:28 PM
Ian and Tyler don't seem to pass to each other much. haha.

LG33
11-16-2012, 08:28 PM
Didn't know Mahinmi had that kind of explosiveness.

Heisenberg
11-16-2012, 08:29 PM
crap call

eric1516
11-16-2012, 08:30 PM
Pacers are 20th in FT shooting. Definitely showing tonight.

rock747
11-16-2012, 08:32 PM
Wow, OJ Mayo is good.

eric1516
11-16-2012, 08:32 PM
Hansbrough!

TMJ31
11-16-2012, 08:32 PM
Tyler!!!!!

And hey, how about that?! DJ actually looks engaged tonight.

Heisenberg
11-16-2012, 08:32 PM
everything about Murphy annoys me

cgg
11-16-2012, 08:33 PM
Troy Murphy defense alert.

Johanvil
11-16-2012, 08:33 PM
So we have to suck at everything and that includes free throws too.Man,that's beyond depressing.

Nuntius
11-16-2012, 08:34 PM
Pacers are 20th in FT shooting. Definitely showing tonight.

The exact opposite of last season. Another thing that can change.

LucasRL13
11-16-2012, 08:34 PM
Im liking Sam Young minutes

LG33
11-16-2012, 08:34 PM
A successful Sam Young fastbreak?

cgg
11-16-2012, 08:35 PM
A successful Sam Young fastbreak?

If you can't take Troy Murphy on the break, then it's time to retire.

Eleazar
11-16-2012, 08:35 PM
So we have to suck at everything and that includes free throws too.Man,that's beyond depressing.

Dude, just enjoy that they are playing competitively right now.

rock747
11-16-2012, 08:36 PM
Tyler!!!!!

And hey, how about that?! DJ actually looks engaged tonight.

Agreed. Isn't scoring... but looks more alive out there tonight.

vnzla81
11-16-2012, 08:36 PM
I see that Tyler is Tyler again, nice.

vnzla81
11-16-2012, 08:37 PM
Dude, just enjoy that they are playing competitively right now.

Yeah at this point we should be happy they are close :lol:

Nuntius
11-16-2012, 08:38 PM
Nice one, Tyler :)

rock747
11-16-2012, 08:38 PM
Crowd gets excited when gerald green goaltends a shot after whistle.

gummy
11-16-2012, 08:40 PM
0 points and 0 rebounds from Roy in almost 10 minutes?!?

And I thought things couldn't get worse for him. :(

If we got just a little contribution from Roy and hit a few more free throws we'd be leading...

vnzla81
11-16-2012, 08:40 PM
I didn't know DC could make those type of passes.

vnzla81
11-16-2012, 08:41 PM
Why do they have Philly/Utah on ESPN? what a garbage game is that.

Nuntius
11-16-2012, 08:42 PM
I didn't know DC could make those type of passes.

Why not? Just because he couldn't make them in our "system" it doesn't mean that he is not able to do it ;)

PacersHomer
11-16-2012, 08:43 PM
Too bad Roy Hibbert got stuck in traffic and couldn't make it.

vnzla81
11-16-2012, 08:44 PM
West got lucky there that was not a foul :laugh:

eric1516
11-16-2012, 08:45 PM
It's uncanny how much Carlisle looks like Jim Carrey.

Nuntius
11-16-2012, 08:45 PM
Nice one, PG.

rock747
11-16-2012, 08:45 PM
George made the shot... but i dont get that pass from hibbert.

TMJ31
11-16-2012, 08:46 PM
Keep working on the handles, Paul. It'll get there.

vnzla81
11-16-2012, 08:46 PM
Vince Carter still has something left.

Sookie
11-16-2012, 08:47 PM
Keep working on the handles, Paul. It'll get there.

I'm just proud he didn't outright lose the ball to DC.

eric1516
11-16-2012, 08:47 PM
George Hill should not be getting burned by an old Vince Carter.

Nuntius
11-16-2012, 08:47 PM
Well, the idea was neat but the execution was not perfect.

Eleazar
11-16-2012, 08:48 PM
Nice pick by Hibbert.

rock747
11-16-2012, 08:48 PM
Roy Hibbert with the block. (football block)

Johanvil
11-16-2012, 08:50 PM
Dude, just enjoy that they are playing competitively right now.

Of course.How silly of me asking for one of the simplest things in basketball.

Heisenberg
11-16-2012, 08:51 PM
where's Danny?

rock747
11-16-2012, 08:52 PM
Officiating looks back to normal this game... flops work again.

vnzla81
11-16-2012, 08:52 PM
Players need to stop missing Roy under the rim.

Nuntius
11-16-2012, 08:55 PM
Unlucky foul there :(

Heisenberg
11-16-2012, 08:55 PM
Pacemates are great actors

Nuntius
11-16-2012, 08:57 PM
Good job, Hill :)

TMJ31
11-16-2012, 08:58 PM
ROY!!!

Nuntius
11-16-2012, 08:58 PM
Nice one, Hibs :)

vnzla81
11-16-2012, 08:59 PM
I was not worry about DC's last second shot, he is anti-clutch.

xIndyFan
11-16-2012, 08:59 PM
43% from the FT line. :(

TMJ31
11-16-2012, 08:59 PM
Hope that tip-in gives Roy some confidence going into the half.

Heisenberg
11-16-2012, 08:59 PM
43% from the FT line. :(

must've watched the Purdue game earlier

gummy
11-16-2012, 09:01 PM
Well, I don't know if we're going to win but we look much better on offense. Shooting 54% (DAL 44%) and we have more assists too (12-10). Now if we could just shore up the rebounding and hit our damn free throws (42%?!?).

This level of play would surely have been enough to beat the cupcakes we've lost to. Which is infuriating because I think the primary differences are focus and intensity. I think our free throw difficulties alone are proof of how much of this is mental. But I'll try not to think about water under the bridge. ;)

Johanvil
11-16-2012, 09:02 PM
Hope that tip-in gives Roy some confidence going into the half.

Wishful thinking me thinks.2 points and 2 rebounds is just a disgraceful return from your max contract.

Heisenberg
11-16-2012, 09:06 PM
Sam Young getting shots up at 2am in the Fieldhouse. Apparently they didn't bother to turn the lights on.

TMJ31
11-16-2012, 09:07 PM
Wishful thinking me thinks.2 points and 2 rebounds is just a disgraceful return from your max contract.

Not disagreeing, but there are two ways to go.

1) Never let Roy live these first couple weeks of games down and constantly nag about it.

OR

2) Praise positives and root for him to return to form.

I vote #2.

diamonddave00
11-16-2012, 09:10 PM
Bad part Chris Kaman has 8 points and 5 rebounds at the half. Mahinmi 4 points Roy 2 at the half.

Eleazar
11-16-2012, 09:13 PM
I don't see the rebound discrepancy as a big deal as the Mavs only have 2 offensive rebounds. The difference in rebounds more of just a symptom of the poor shooting at the free throw line.

Johanvil
11-16-2012, 09:13 PM
Since we seem stalling the ball some times with Hill at the point,why Vogel doesn't give Lance a chance at the "1"?

vnzla81
11-16-2012, 09:15 PM
I don't know but the Pacers are looking better, Dallas is looking bad and they are still up.

rock747
11-16-2012, 09:16 PM
Man, Hibber.

eric1516
11-16-2012, 09:17 PM
Poor Hibbert just kills the ball when he touches it. It has to be mental!

vnzla81
11-16-2012, 09:17 PM
Roy is using the same hand cream Mahinmi is using.

Heisenberg
11-16-2012, 09:18 PM
I don't know but the Pacers are looking better, Dallas is looking bad and they are still up.
#narrative

gummy
11-16-2012, 09:19 PM
Next practice I'd force the guys to shoot free throws for at least 45 minutes. Stop leaving free points on the floor!

eric1516
11-16-2012, 09:19 PM
Lance coast to coast!

gummy
11-16-2012, 09:20 PM
Roy is using the same hand cream Mahinmi is using.

OK, that is funny. :D

LucasRL13
11-16-2012, 09:21 PM
COME ON ROY

gummy
11-16-2012, 09:21 PM
Could this sequence be a turning point for Hibbert?

PGisthefuture
11-16-2012, 09:21 PM
I think we'll set the record for most missed layups in a season at this rate.

LG33
11-16-2012, 09:21 PM
I was so mad at Hibbert these past nine games, but now I just feel sad for him. Nothing is going right.

TMJ31
11-16-2012, 09:22 PM
Way to go Roy!!!

Don't hang your head, get back in the play and make a stop. That's how to get back into your rhythm!

LucasRL13
11-16-2012, 09:22 PM
Could this sequence be a turning point for Hibbert?

Lets hope so

odeez
11-16-2012, 09:22 PM
I like the effort ROY is playing with, bout time, it will go down just being aggressive!

vnzla81
11-16-2012, 09:23 PM
4 steps.

BlueCollarColts
11-16-2012, 09:23 PM
these refs are unbelievably bad......

Eleazar
11-16-2012, 09:23 PM
Is it just me or does Hill have abnormally large shoulders relative to the rest of his build?

LucasRL13
11-16-2012, 09:23 PM
WE NEED YOU ROY

ROY

vnzla81
11-16-2012, 09:23 PM
Elton Brand could have been a Pacers ........

Nuntius
11-16-2012, 09:24 PM
Nice dunk, Roy. Come on, keep it up :)

Nuntius
11-16-2012, 09:24 PM
Lanceeeeeee :happydanc

PGisthefuture
11-16-2012, 09:24 PM
And we've finally taken a 2 possession lead!

TMJ31
11-16-2012, 09:24 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen:

Introducing the Indiana Pacers!

odeez
11-16-2012, 09:24 PM
LANCE >>> THREEZY!

LucasRL13
11-16-2012, 09:25 PM
That's what I'm talking about

PACERS BASKETBALL!!!!!!!!!

Kemo
11-16-2012, 09:25 PM
How bout that Lance kid? heh

.

His shot form looks so much more fluid and overall better this year..

gummy
11-16-2012, 09:25 PM
Is it just me or does Hill have abnormally large shoulders relative to the rest of his build?
It's not just you. I notice it every time he's at the stripe.

DGPR
11-16-2012, 09:27 PM
Wow, who taught our players offense in a 2 day span?

ECKrueger
11-16-2012, 09:27 PM
Jared Wade ‏@8pts9secs
Roy makes a dunk. He's 2-for-9 after that. Other bucket was a tip-in. Just needs to work on the stuff outside of 5 inches away.

:laugh:

gummy
11-16-2012, 09:27 PM
Holy crap, Bynum is now having problems in his other knee. Philly is gonna regret that trade.

gummy
11-16-2012, 09:27 PM
Wow, who taught our players offense in a 2 day span?

I'm sure there were tweaks, but I think it's mostly about: Energy. Focus. Execution. We're making more open shots.

I know, that narrative doesn't fit with the idea that we are irrevocably, inherently bad. But the proof is in the pudding.

vnzla81
11-16-2012, 09:30 PM
Holy crap, Bynum is now having problems in his other knee. Philly is gonna regret that trade.

He is expiring so I don't see it as a big deal, now if they sign him to a long contract.....

eric1516
11-16-2012, 09:30 PM
I hope Roy was taking note of that move by West!

LG33
11-16-2012, 09:30 PM
I love me some Lance Stephenson.

gummy
11-16-2012, 09:31 PM
He is expiring so I don't see as a big deal, now if they sign him to a long contract.....

And they might if he can get healthy and play well in the second half of the season. But I think that would be fool's gold.

I think they were hoping to get a franchise center, not just an expiring contract.

tora tora
11-16-2012, 09:31 PM
That missed dunk by Roy looked a little suspicious.

LG33
11-16-2012, 09:31 PM
He is expiring so I don't see it as a big deal, now if they sign him to a long contract.....

Yeah, but they did give up their best player for him, so there's that.

Nuntius
11-16-2012, 09:32 PM
That's more like it :)

Heisenberg
11-16-2012, 09:32 PM
don't blow it up

LucasRL13
11-16-2012, 09:32 PM
HIBBERT AND SAM YOUNG FOR 333333333333333333333333

rock747
11-16-2012, 09:32 PM
Sam Young hit a three

Kemo
11-16-2012, 09:32 PM
Way to go Young! ..
Sam's been a very nice spark off the bench for us ..

cgg
11-16-2012, 09:33 PM
wtf sam young can shoot threes? I thought it was a mistake the first time he tried.

Nuntius
11-16-2012, 09:33 PM
Well, when Sam Young hits that three you know that the momentum is on your side. Keep it up, keep it up :)

DGPR
11-16-2012, 09:33 PM
Wow the defense leading to offense, this looks just like last years team!

odeez
11-16-2012, 09:33 PM
THANK YOU PACERS! We've been waiting for this!

gummy
11-16-2012, 09:33 PM
don't blow it up

:laugh:

The game always looks a lot different when you can hit your open shots at a good clip. And their movement is better, so they are getting more open shots.

rock747
11-16-2012, 09:34 PM
Lance Stephenson the humanitarian.

vnzla81
11-16-2012, 09:34 PM
Yeah, but they did give up their best player for him, so there's that.

True but they now will have a lot of money to spend next year.

Nuntius
11-16-2012, 09:34 PM
Look at Lance hustling to save a referee :D

cgg
11-16-2012, 09:34 PM
I was afraid that Lance was attacking the ref.

PGisthefuture
11-16-2012, 09:34 PM
All it took was an adjustment to the offense, good job Frank.

vnzla81
11-16-2012, 09:35 PM
Now Tyler is making the jumper :lol:

LucasRL13
11-16-2012, 09:35 PM
THIS IS THE INDIANA PACERS BIATCCHHHHHH

Nuntius
11-16-2012, 09:35 PM
I totally love Lance's transformation.

DGPR
11-16-2012, 09:35 PM
Lance mother****ing Stephenson!

rock747
11-16-2012, 09:36 PM
Don't get too OVERconfident... still another quarter left..

Heisenberg
11-16-2012, 09:36 PM
I was afraid that Lance was attacking the ref.
definitely let out a "ohhhh no Lance." what a nice guy.

Johanvil
11-16-2012, 09:36 PM
Larry was right after all about Lance.He clearly saw something we failed to.

PGisthefuture
11-16-2012, 09:36 PM
Lance for MIP lol

eric1516
11-16-2012, 09:36 PM
A breakout game for Lance=so many good things for us moving forward.

LG33
11-16-2012, 09:36 PM
I was afraid that Lance was attacking the ref.

Stern will still get a couple grand out of him for "making contact with a referee". Gotta put some money away for retirement.

DGPR
11-16-2012, 09:36 PM
Lance is going for MIP

Heisenberg
11-16-2012, 09:36 PM
one game won't convince me, and still a full quarter left, but I'm stepping back from the ledge a bit

Ace E.Anderson
11-16-2012, 09:37 PM
Who said something bout the DC show? Dude is still getting worked defensively

Heisenberg
11-16-2012, 09:38 PM
this is our biggest lead of the season

vnzla81
11-16-2012, 09:38 PM
Tyler hit Carter damn.

90'sNBARocked
11-16-2012, 09:39 PM
Im sorry but I get to let this out

Hel YA Lance!!!!!!!

I told mugs since year one he had skills he just needed time and a chance and got beat the fk up by many on here about him "being a thug" oir having no talent" etc etc

SO yeah man this feels real good

Brooklyn style baby, Coney Island represent , yeah Lance baby do ya thing!!!!!!!!

Heisenberg
11-16-2012, 09:39 PM
incidental double knockout

Nuntius
11-16-2012, 09:39 PM
Wow, Vince -.-

Let's hope that Tyler is ok.

owl
11-16-2012, 09:39 PM
I'm sure there were tweaks, but I think it's mostly about: Energy. Focus. Execution. We're making more open shots.

I know, that narrative doesn't fit with the idea that we are irrevocably, inherently bad. But the proof is in the pudding.

Amazing what effort and movement can do for you

BlueCollarColts
11-16-2012, 09:39 PM
we made the right decision with Hill over Collison

LucasRL13
11-16-2012, 09:40 PM
Lance will be an All Star

Lance can make up one of the best players in the league

I believe in you LANCE

rock747
11-16-2012, 09:41 PM
Not sure Carter deserves a technical here?

Sookie
11-16-2012, 09:42 PM
I'm sure there were tweaks, but I think it's mostly about: Energy. Focus. Execution. We're making more open shots.

I know, that narrative doesn't fit with the idea that we are irrevocably, inherently bad. But the proof is in the pudding.

Yea, there's actual ball movement/player movement tonight. And they aren't being lazy.

edit: I think it's automatic. Elbow above the shoulder.

Heisenberg
11-16-2012, 09:42 PM
Not sure Carter deserves a technical here?

"letter of the law" tech I guess. stupid.

LG33
11-16-2012, 09:42 PM
Tyler eye-pokes opponent, gets a technical free throw. Nice.

vnzla81
11-16-2012, 09:43 PM
Not sure Carter deserves a technical here?

Yep I agree.

rock747
11-16-2012, 09:44 PM
2nd unit losing lead..

vnzla81
11-16-2012, 09:44 PM
Now young is going crazy on the 3.

eric1516
11-16-2012, 09:44 PM
Even though Lance missed that I like that he called for it and wasn't afraid to take it.

Nuntius
11-16-2012, 09:45 PM
I didn't get what happened. Did Tyler poke him or something? If he did, somehow I missed it :laugh:

gummy
11-16-2012, 09:45 PM
Im sorry but I get to let this out

Hel YA Lance!!!!!!!

I told mugs since year one he had skills he just needed time and a chance and got beat the fk up by many on here about him "being a thug" oir having no talent" etc etc

SO yeah man this feels real good

Brooklyn style baby, Coney Island represent , yeah Lance baby do ya thing!!!!!!!!

:unimpress

I don't think that's exactly fair. Sure, some people didn't see it. But most critics of Lance saw that the talent was there but very much doubted that he could pull all the mental aspects together. As far as his reputation, he earned it through a series of troubling things off the court and boneheaded moves on the court (that's leaving aside the stuff where charges were dropped) for years. I'm ecstatic he seems to have turned a corner. But the very fact that we talk about it that way hints at the fact that there were good reasons to doubt him. The Pacers made a conscious effort to make sure he was mentored. If left to his own devices he very easily could have washed out.

Again, VERY happy for him (as a player and a person) and happy for the Pacers. But there were good reasons he was getting "beat the **** up," by so many.

vnzla81
11-16-2012, 09:45 PM
DC Iso's, man I don't miss those.

rock747
11-16-2012, 09:46 PM
Young makes one 3 and all of a sudden he thinks he's ray allen.

gummy
11-16-2012, 09:48 PM
DC Iso's, man I don't miss those.

Amen.

boombaby1987
11-16-2012, 09:48 PM
Such an unlucky bounce.

ECKrueger
11-16-2012, 09:49 PM
David Harrison ‏@DavidHarrison13

@MikeWellsNBA you ever ask Jim if he thinks that he is the devil?

DEEman
11-16-2012, 09:49 PM
Young makes one 3 and all of a sudden he thinks he's ray allen.

We are playing an amazing game finally and you give a peep about Young thinking being a stud.. ;)

Oh man, i love this team when they give about winning the game against a good opponent.. This team needs obvious a great opponent to play great their selfes.

rock747
11-16-2012, 09:49 PM
Augustin's averages are going to be way down compared to previous years..

tfarks
11-16-2012, 09:50 PM
I'm confused.

Heisenberg
11-16-2012, 09:50 PM
David Harrison ‏@DavidHarrison13

@MikeWellsNBA you ever ask Jim if he thinks that he is the devil?
:laugh: Harrison's a pretty good Twitter follow, seems like he's done some growing up. Still living in Indy I believe.

boombaby1987
11-16-2012, 09:51 PM
Sam Young knew he shouldn'y have taken that shot. That is why he hesitated so bad.

Sookie
11-16-2012, 09:51 PM
heh..because Troy doesn't box out.

vnzla81
11-16-2012, 09:51 PM
Young is looking amazing today, in other words I don't expect that to happen that often.

rock747
11-16-2012, 09:51 PM
Why does sam young shoot 3?

Heisenberg
11-16-2012, 09:51 PM
how's that from a dumb basketball player

boombaby1987
11-16-2012, 09:51 PM
Umm....:laugh:

eric1516
11-16-2012, 09:52 PM
Our bench is actually looking good right now!

Nuntius
11-16-2012, 09:52 PM
Great shot, Green :)

vnzla81
11-16-2012, 09:52 PM
:laugh: Harrison's a pretty good Twitter follow, seems like he's done some growing up. Still living in Indy I believe.

Yes I saw him in a bar few weeks ago.

ECKrueger
11-16-2012, 09:52 PM
:laugh: Harrison's a pretty good Twitter follow, seems like he's done some growing up. Still living in Indy I believe.

Mike Wells ‏@MikeWellsNBA

“@DavidHarrison13: @MikeWellsNBA u ever ask Jim if he thinks that he is the devil?” (that's impossible to do. He's still not talking to me)

Dece
11-16-2012, 09:53 PM
I'm going to be THAT guy here. We don't really look good so much as not completely awful, Hibbert still is useless on offense (7 points on 10 shots, pretty good big guy), and they are missing Dirk... who is quite a bit better than Danny. I mean, hey, I'll take any win, and if we hold on, awesome, but this is still not a good team.

Heisenberg
11-16-2012, 09:53 PM
man, remember when Roddy Buckets was supposed to be the next big thing?

boombaby1987
11-16-2012, 09:53 PM
Well this has been ugly. Would love to see some fluency.

TMJ31
11-16-2012, 09:54 PM
So happy with the effort and movement from the 2nd unit.

Night and day difference.

Sam, DJ, Ian all making a HUGE impact tonight!

vnzla81
11-16-2012, 09:55 PM
I'm going to be THAT guy here. We don't really look good so much as not completely awful, Hibbert still is useless on offense (7 points on 10 shots, pretty good big guy), and they are missing Dirk... who is quite a bit better than Danny. I mean, hey, I'll take any win, and if we hold on, awesome, but this is still not a good team.

Hey at least we are beating equal crappy teams :) I agree with you though.

BlueCollarColts
11-16-2012, 09:55 PM
bench playing well right now

boombaby1987
11-16-2012, 09:56 PM
Sam Young is the hero of this game.

LucasRL13
11-16-2012, 09:57 PM
SAM "REGGIE" YOUNG

Nuntius
11-16-2012, 09:57 PM
Young :happydanc

rock747
11-16-2012, 09:57 PM
Sam Young has officially shocked me.

cgg
11-16-2012, 09:58 PM
I think there might be entire seasons where Sam Young didn't take this many threes.

vnzla81
11-16-2012, 09:58 PM
Yep this game is over, Dallas is a mess.

boombaby1987
11-16-2012, 09:58 PM
All Day Brandon Wright.

cdash
11-16-2012, 10:00 PM
Such a different energy level from this team tonight. Pushing the tempo even a little is huge for this team. Hill has looked very good running the point today.

Trader Joe
11-16-2012, 10:00 PM
I think there might be entire seasons where Sam Young didn't take this many threes.

Two?

Eleazar
11-16-2012, 10:00 PM
Mahinmi looks a million times more confident right now.

vnzla81
11-16-2012, 10:00 PM
I wonder how many stars my hot dogs have.

vnzla81
11-16-2012, 10:02 PM
DC still sucks by the way.

Nuntius
11-16-2012, 10:04 PM
DC still sucks by the way.

Nope ;)

Nuntius
11-16-2012, 10:05 PM
Nice one, Roy.

Great ball movement. Nice rebound, Tyler :)

Heisenberg
11-16-2012, 10:06 PM
Roy fouled him but who cares, screw Murphy

Nuntius
11-16-2012, 10:06 PM
Hibbert made his hook. Could this be it?

vnzla81
11-16-2012, 10:06 PM
Nope ;)

Oh yeah he still sucks :)

Eleazar
11-16-2012, 10:06 PM
I don't think Roy likes Troy.

ECKrueger
11-16-2012, 10:07 PM
Could Roy be back?

Nuntius
11-16-2012, 10:07 PM
Oh yeah he still sucks :)

You are free to have your opinion but I disagree :)

cgg
11-16-2012, 10:08 PM
Two?

Six?

vnzla81
11-16-2012, 10:08 PM
I don't think Roy likes Troy.

Not only he stole his rebounds but also his playing time so I think he hates him.

LucasRL13
11-16-2012, 10:08 PM
ROY IS BACK

Heisenberg
11-16-2012, 10:08 PM
I don't think Roy likes Troy.
which is how you know he's a human being. no one likes Murphy.

Nuntius
11-16-2012, 10:08 PM
Roooooooooy :happydanc

rock747
11-16-2012, 10:08 PM
Good for Roy.