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PacersFan1991
08-20-2012, 04:09 PM
ESPNSteinLine Story going online at @ESPNDallas: Mavs have struck deal to hire ex-Pacers coach Jim O'Brien as Rick Carlisle's top assistant

Unclebuck
08-20-2012, 04:11 PM
How many predicted he'd never work in the NBA again. Or was that just be a head coach again in the NBA. I don't remember.

mildlysane
08-20-2012, 04:12 PM
Funny...So, if Rick's team stumbles and Cuban ends up canning him, then history will repeat itself. :laugh::laugh::-o

adamscb
08-20-2012, 04:12 PM
DC's reaction:
:vaderno:

Sandman21
08-20-2012, 04:13 PM
Dahntay's reaction:
:vaderno:
Fixed. At least JOB let Darren play.

AesopRockOn
08-20-2012, 04:17 PM
Well, we know the Mavs will be staying in Dallas.

Brad8888
08-20-2012, 09:49 PM
Jim has now reached the pinnacle of his happiness. The greatest stretch 4 of all time is now on the team he is coaching.

CableKC
08-21-2012, 12:25 AM
Note to self......remember to draft OJ Mayo and Dirk in my NBA Fantasy Draft to shore up my 3pt shooting.

NapTonius Monk
08-21-2012, 12:42 AM
Jim has now reached the pinnacle of his happiness. The greatest stretch 4 of all time is now on the team he is coaching.:laugh:

BornReady
08-21-2012, 01:03 AM
Note to self......remember to draft OJ Mayo and Dirk in my NBA Fantasy Draft to shore up my 3pt shooting.

actually...that doesn't sound like a bad idea at all! :D

Hoop
08-21-2012, 02:08 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/Hooping/HellFreezesOver.jpg

Nuntius
08-21-2012, 02:32 AM
Poor DJ and Darren :(

flox
08-21-2012, 06:27 PM
The Mavericks have a great roster for Jim's offense. Dirk, Yi, and Crowder can spread the floor in the big positions, and he has great slashers and spacers in Carter and Beaubois. I'm excited to see what will happen this year.

OakMoses
08-21-2012, 06:39 PM
Jim O'Brien is a good basketball coach.

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PaceBalls
08-21-2012, 09:06 PM
:haha:

I have really been wondering when he would reappear. I've tried googling him multiple times over the past year to see if I could find any quotes or opinions... there was nothing. I am interested to see how he does with the Mavs. Assistant coaches are usually more hands on guys with the players. I think he will get along really well with Dirk, who has to be his ideal perfect player x 100.

Roaming Gnome
08-22-2012, 01:13 AM
The Mavericks have a great roster for Jim's offense. Dirk, Yi, and Crowder can spread the floor in the big positions, and he has great slashers and spacers in Carter and Beaubois. I'm excited to see what will happen this year.

I thanked your post because I'm very curious what J'Ob's offense can do with talent more suited for this kind of offense. Since Jim isn't the head coach, I'm sure there won't be the head games and stubbornness that we all witnessed with a roster not geared for such an offense.

MvPlumlee
08-22-2012, 03:31 AM
Good for him.

The Mavericks are on top of my list of teams to watch besides the Pacers. See how our "could have been backcourt" does, the German twin towers and off course Jimmie boy, working out an offensive play and Rick not paying any attention to it :)

Just in or just out the playoffs, is where I see them ending up.

vnzla81
08-22-2012, 10:21 AM
Rick C is an smart man all he is going to do is ask "what would Jim do?" and do the opposite.

Major Cold
08-22-2012, 10:37 AM
Fixed. At least JOB let Darren play.
Would D.Jones play over Mayo without JOB? Nope
Would D.Jones play over Beaubois without JOB? Nope
Would D.Jones play over Carterwithout JOB? Nope
Would D.Jones play over D.West without JOB? Nope
Would D.Jones play over Marion without JOB? Nope

J7F
08-22-2012, 10:40 AM
The Mavericks have a great roster for Jim's offense. Dirk, Yi, and Crowder can spread the floor in the big positions, and he has great slashers and spacers in Carter and Beaubois. I'm excited to see what will happen this year.

Yi is an unsigned FA as of right now...

Hicks
08-22-2012, 11:19 AM
I thanked your post because I'm very curious what J'Ob's offense can do with talent more suited for this kind of offense. Since Jim isn't the head coach, I'm sure there won't be the head games and stubbornness that we all witnessed with a roster not geared for such an offense.

I'm wondering how much of an influence we'll even notice from JOB given that he'll be Rick's assistant. Maybe Rick will turn the offensive over to him, but I'd be surprised. I'm not sure what exactly he'll ask Jim to do.

Unclebuck
08-22-2012, 11:25 AM
I'm wondering how much of an influence we'll even notice from JOB given that he'll be Rick's assistant. Maybe Rick will turn the offensive over to him, but I'd be surprised. I'm not sure what exactly he'll ask Jim to do.

Rick's history is he turns the defense over to an assistant. He did that with Mike Brown and he did that with Dwayne Casey. I don't know if Stotts handled the offense.

One thing is clear Rick is more than willing to delegate substantial parts of the offense and defense. I think he did that with Stotts in Dallas as more I think about this I think Stotts handled the offense.

graphic-er
08-22-2012, 11:49 AM
What's hilarious about this is that when JOB was here, he did not normally work with the players. He delegated that to the assistants. JOB only concerned himself with game tape and line ups, and running practice. So i wonder what his role will be with Dallas. I can't imagine JOB tutoring DC about his handle.

Hicks
08-22-2012, 12:29 PM
Rick's history is he turns the defense over to an assistant. He did that with Mike Brown and he did that with Dwayne Casey. I don't know if Stotts handled the offense.

One thing is clear Rick is more than willing to delegate substantial parts of the offense and defense. I think he did that with Stotts in Dallas as more I think about this I think Stotts handled the offense.

So that would suggest, if he's to do that with Jim, that the Mavericks will start over-helping on defense, right?

Unclebuck
08-22-2012, 01:20 PM
So that would suggest, if he's to do that with Jim, that the Mavericks will start over-helping on defense, right?

I am guessing he'll handle the defense. of course that does not curtail Rick and Jim sitting down over the next 6 weeks and setting their defensive system. And then Jim can put it into practice. Pretty common.

Rick hated playing zone defensese, or so we thought, but Casey must have convinved him to play zone because they played a lot of it with good success. Jim hates playing zone, but if Rick convinces Jim that with the Mavs personel, zone needs to be part of what they do, then I'm sure they will do so.

Unclebuck
08-22-2012, 01:25 PM
What's hilarious about this is that when JOB was here, he did not normally work with the players. He delegated that to the assistants. JOB only concerned himself with game tape and line ups, and running practice. So i wonder what his role will be with Dallas. I can't imagine JOB tutoring DC about his handle.


I always thought one of the biggest complaints about Jim was he never let his assistants have any say. Although I see what you are saying, you are talking about one-on-one stuff.

But remember Jim was an assistant coach for years and year.

Assistant coach at 6 different colleges, and an assistant coach for 6 seasons in the NBA. So he's been an assistant coach for a lot longer than a head coach. Actually my sense is he is probably better at the typical duties of an assistant coahc han a head coach

Pace Maker
08-23-2012, 12:00 PM
So if we see Elton Brand popping 3's we'll all know why then.

IndyPacer
08-24-2012, 07:18 PM
How many predicted he'd never work in the NBA again. Or was that just be a head coach again in the NBA. I don't remember.

I'm not sure about predicted. As for how many hoped he would never work in the NBA, that would be a considerably figure.

Spreading the floor with 3s and the like can actually be reasonably effective if you actually have players who are well-suited for that type of play. Josh McRoberts shooting hundreds of 3s a day would not fit into that category of players suited for that type of role, however.

Unclebuck
08-27-2012, 08:51 AM
I'm not sure about predicted. As for how many hoped he would never work in the NBA, that would be a considerably figure.


See I guess that is what I don't get (not picking on you, I'm sure many feel the same way) but why do so many want Jim not to work again. I mean that is what bugs me now and bugged me back when he was our coach, it wasn't enough that so many thoiught he wasn't a good coach - OK I get that, but why the ill will. Why the distain, why not wish him well and move on.

vnzla81
08-27-2012, 08:54 AM
See I guess that is what I don't get (not picking on you, I'm sure many feel the same way) but why do so many want Jim not to work again. I mean that is what bugs me now and bugged me back when he was our coach, it wasn't enough that so many thoiught he wasn't a good coach - OK I get that, but why the ill will. Why the distain, why not wish him well and move on.

Because we hate his guts.

Unclebuck
08-27-2012, 09:50 AM
Because we hate his guts.

Precisely my point.

Thanks for being honest.

McKeyFan
08-27-2012, 05:29 PM
I don't hate him. I hope he does well in Dallas. I think there's a good chance his style works better as an assistant.

If I have any bitterness, it's toward Bird for keeping him here too long. But I'm not bitter because I don't think Bird was malicious, just mega-stubborn with a huge blind spot.

Sookie
08-27-2012, 06:40 PM
Yea, at some point it wasn't Jimmy's fault any longer.

When we could all predict what he was going to do. (Which meant Larry Bird could too) And we all knew what he'd do would be bad for the team (which Larry Bird could too) that meant Larry was just being stubborn. Seems to have all worked out though. Thank you for Frank, Jimmy.

He's just a god awful coach. (Seems like he might be pretty darn good at picking out coaching talent though..)

BlueNGold
08-27-2012, 06:48 PM
This is basketball. How poorly he coached the Pacers isn't going to make me hate the man.

From what little I know about him, he seems like a generous person as I have attended some gatherings where he was a guest speaker. I do think he may be so engaged in what he's trying to accomplish, he doesn't think straight when under pressure. I'm sure he acts under pressure, but I don't think he handles it well. Too wound up and maybe a little immature himself by not considering that his words can be daggers.

McKeyFan
09-01-2012, 07:36 AM
Last night I dreamt that Jim O'Brien was the coach, but also the bus driver, and I was a player getting on the bus late. It was one of those old yellow buses. He was friendly enough. It was dark. I sat next to him for a bit and we chatted about his upcoming move to Dallas. Then I woke up.

I don't have a point. It was a real dream.

Pacersalltheway10
09-01-2012, 12:55 PM
Jim O'Brien the head coach sucks, Jim O'Brien the person is good

BlueNGold
09-01-2012, 03:09 PM
Jim O'Brien the head coach sucks, Jim O'Brien the person is good

Yeh, he is a good guy. He really needs to get in another line of business. Perhaps he should specialize as an NBA three point shooting consultant...

Coopdog23
09-03-2012, 01:20 PM
They're going to be pretty good this year