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PR07
08-07-2012, 10:16 AM
Greene told TheCDNetworks.com, a Sacramento internet radio show, that he is in talks with Chicago, New York and Indiana. He called the trio his "top three" possible free-agent destinations.
"Anybody could pop up at any time," Greene told the radio show on Friday. "But those are the three that we're focusing on and trying to work out and get a deal done."

http://www.iamagm.com/article/donte-greene-says-that-the-knicks-bulls-and-pacers-are-interested#.UCEkaMie5Xc

Pacergeek
08-07-2012, 10:32 AM
Donte Greene has problems passing the ball to open teammates. Ask Demarcus Cousins

xBulletproof
08-07-2012, 10:42 AM
Donte Greene has problems passing the ball to open teammates. Ask Demarcus Cousins

Yeah, because thats a reliable source.

Can't imagine why Greene passed the ball to the guy who had scored their last 15 points or whatever it was to keep them in the game. :laugh:

Pacergeek
08-07-2012, 10:46 AM
Yeah, because thats a reliable source.

Can't imagine why Greene passed the ball to the guy who had scored their last 15 points or whatever it was to keep them in the game. :laugh:

I always thought you pass the ball to your best player in crunch time. Donte Green evidently doesn't agree.

Sparhawk
08-07-2012, 11:22 AM
Meh. A 6'11 SF that isn't a good rebounder and shoots a career 41%. WTF, how would this be a good signing. Just leave the roster spot open.

C'mon Pacers.

xBulletproof
08-07-2012, 11:27 AM
I always thought you pass the ball to your best player in crunch time. Donte Green evidently doesn't agree.

I wasn't aware that a guy who averaged 13 ppg and shot in the low 40% as a post player would be anyone's best player. How sad is that.

90'sNBARocked
08-07-2012, 11:37 AM
I hope we sign Andre Blatche, but wouldnt mind Dante Green. He can be a scorer off the bench

WhoLovesYaBaby?
08-07-2012, 12:02 PM
6'11". Inside player. Poor shooting %. Poor rebounding.

Don't we have one of those?

WhoLovesYaBaby?
08-07-2012, 12:06 PM
For the people clamoring for Blatche;

Teams should be looking at this kid. If only because he will come cheap and has potential. I know he had attitude issues although I don't know specifics, but his stats aren't that bad. Hard to believe he is going into his eighth season.

Speed
08-07-2012, 12:10 PM
For the people clamoring for Blatche;

Teams should be looking at this kid. If only because he will come cheap and has potential. I know he had attitude issues although I don't know specifics, but his stats aren't that bad. Hard to believe he is going into his eighth season.

Here's the problem with him and its in your own post. see bolded.

joew8302
08-07-2012, 12:13 PM
I would not get too flustered over this. Obviously, if we do sign Green it will be dirt cheap and not a ton will be expected.

Plus he does have good size and some nice skills. Maybe a change of scenery with better leadership and a more experienced locker room will help him realize his potential.

Speed
08-07-2012, 12:47 PM
Pacers are just going from yard sale to yard sale and seeing if they can find anything. It doesn't hurt. I am wondering if Penegraph isn't going to make the roster, they have 6 bigs if you count him, thats usually what you'd keep.

Lance George
08-07-2012, 12:49 PM
I can't say I've seen Donte play a lot considering he's been trapped in a place that makes Indiana look like the Showtime Lakers by comparison, but his production looks pretty terrible. He's like a really bad shooting guard stuck in a really bad power forward's body. Not impressive at all, and after four years in the league, I don't even think the "P" word still applies all that much.


For the people clamoring for Blatche;

Teams should be looking at this kid. If only because he will come cheap and has potential. I know he had attitude issues although I don't know specifics, but his stats aren't that bad. Hard to believe he is going into his eighth season.

There's been talk both the Heat and -- especially -- the Spurs have interest in him.

Spurs Nation Report: Spurs interested in Blatche (http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2012/08/04/report-spurs-interested-in-blatche/)

If he's good enough for those teams, surely he's good enough for us, no? I'd take a chance on someone who's proven to be talented, if immature, over a proven bum like Greene. I'm optimistic that getting out of that cesspool in Washington and being put in an environment with guys like David West, Roy Hibbert, Danny Granger, Frank Vogel, Brian Shaw, etc., will help him get his head screwed on right.

CableKC
08-07-2012, 12:59 PM
Again, this tells me that the FO is simply trying to "kick the tires" to see what "bargain bin" Players could be had.

A young Player like Donte Greene is not going to come to a Team that has a SG/SF/PF rotation of PG/Granger/Green/West/Hansbrough and GH ( as a backup SG ) while trying to fight for 10-15 mpg.

My guess is that we'll sign some veteran Player with experience that is at the end of his career that will have ZERO problem filling the role that Inferno vacated.....basically a cheerleader that can be a good locker room presence that can come in and fill 10-15 mpg as an "emergency end of the bench" Role Player.

Speed
08-07-2012, 01:11 PM
That really surprises me the Spurs are interested in Blatche, I guess they think the environment can help him stay focused. If he came here, I'd want to give Brian Shaw a big fat raise.

Skill-wise he's everything the Pacers need with the 2nd unit, btw. He's the anti Hansbrough. He can score on his own, in bunches, rebounds well, perfect size, intermittent defense, but still. If you thought he wouldn't kill your chemistry, he has starter PF ability. I wonder what shape he's in, I picture him 30-40 lbs overweight and looking to play in China, but I'm sure i'm wrong.

Peck
08-07-2012, 01:12 PM
Pacers are just going from yard sale to yard sale and seeing if they can find anything. It doesn't hurt. I am wondering if Penegraph isn't going to make the roster, they have 6 bigs if you count him, thats usually what you'd keep.

I know that it is just summer league and all but honestly the few times I watched I just was not impressed at all.

CableKC
08-07-2012, 01:13 PM
That really surprises me the Spurs are interested in Blatche, I guess they think the environment can help him stay focused. If he came here, I'd want to give Brian Shaw a big fat raise.
If Gregg Poppavich can't keep this kid in line and get the most of out of him...no one can.

Speed
08-07-2012, 01:17 PM
I can't say I've seen Donte play a lot considering he's been trapped in a place that makes Indiana look like the Showtime Lakers by comparison, but his production looks pretty terrible. He's like a really bad shooting guard stuck in a really bad power forward's body. Not impressive at all, and after four years in the league, I don't even think the "P" word still applies all that much.



There's been talk both the Heat and -- especially -- the Spurs have interest in him.

Spurs Nation Report: Spurs interested in Blatche (http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2012/08/04/report-spurs-interested-in-blatche/)

If he's good enough for those teams, surely he's good enough for us, no? I'd take a chance on someone who's proven to be talented, if immature, over a proven bum like Greene. I'm optimistic that getting out of that cesspool in Washington and being put in an environment with guys like David West, Roy Hibbert, Danny Granger, Frank Vogel, Brian Shaw, etc., will help him get his head screwed on right.

Quotes from that article....

"If you’re wondering if there are any particular reasons why no teams were interested in picking up a young, talented 6-foot-11 power forward — well, of course. Not only was he grossly overpaid, Blatche’s exploits (http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/wizards/andray-blatche-just-wants-to-have-fun-and-that-was-the-problem/2012/07/20/gJQAh0KTyW_story.html) — which include multiple brushes with the law, hosting something called “Lapdance Tuesday (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/andray-blatche-hosts-lapdance-tuesday-at-miami-beach-club/2011/05/04/AFJrYpmF_blog.html)“ at a Miami nightclub and being the subject of an awesome blog post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/the-time-andray-blatche-ate-nachos-before-playing-the-heat/2012/07/18/gJQAR3MhtW_blog.html) titled “The time Andray Blatche ate nachos before playing the Heat”........

Still, despite a poor 2011-12 season (8.5 points per game, 38 percent shooting), he’s less than two years removed from averaging 16.8 points and 8.2 rebounds per game while registering an above average PER. Maybe some Gregg Popovich and Tim Duncan is just what he needs to get his career back on track.

Or maybe, just maybe, his agent is floating a rumor to drum up interest in a player whose rep is pretty close to rock bottom. (Hard to believe, but that happens…)"

Speed
08-07-2012, 01:19 PM
More on Blatche...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/remembering-andray-blatche/2012/07/17/gJQAT5JmrW_blog.html

CableKC
08-07-2012, 01:31 PM
Pacers are just going from yard sale to yard sale and seeing if they can find anything. It doesn't hurt. I am wondering if Penegraph isn't going to make the roster, they have 6 bigs if you count him, thats usually what you'd keep.
I don't see the Pacers cutting a Player that has a guaranteed contract of $1.5 mil just to free up a roster space.

I still expect that we'd add one more Player while leaving the 15th spot open......but I don't expect to cut someone and go into the season with the below roster ( at the very least )

GH/DJ
PG/Lance/OJ
Granger/GG
West/Hansbourgh/Pendagraph
Hibbert/Mahinmi/Plumlee

My guess is that it will be another veteran SF that can be had for cheap.

CableKC
08-07-2012, 01:54 PM
Still, despite a poor 2011-12 season (8.5 points per game, 38 percent shooting), he’s less than two years removed from averaging 16.8 points and 8.2 rebounds per game while registering an above average PER. Maybe some Gregg Popovich and Tim Duncan is just what he needs to get his career back on track.

Or maybe, just maybe, his agent is floating a rumor to drum up interest in a player whose rep is pretty close to rock bottom. (Hard to believe, but that happens…)"
I am not surprised if there is a Team out there that is interested in him......the guy is talented and athletic. I don't see the Pacers being interested in him for the offcourt issues....but for some other Teams....at the right "price point".....the reward outweighs risk. As to which Team? Some Veteran Playoff Bubble or Playoff Team that is near or over the Cap that is looking for cheap talent and needs some Frontcourt depth.

Sparhawk
08-07-2012, 02:27 PM
Of all the teams in the NBA, I think the Pacers and Spurs could get the best out of Blatche. Both just have a really good culture, really good players that are also even better citizens, and top notch coaching staff. Oh yeah, the Pacers also have Clark Kellogg. Just look what he did with Lance. I know Blatche is much older, but I think he knows he's on the verge of never playing in the NBA. That kind of thing can change someone. Just ask Gerald Green (not in terms of attitude, but being out of the NBA really lit a fire under this guy to develop his game).

With boring picks like Hans and Plumlee, I would seriously love for the Pacers to gamble on Blatche. It's not like it would be much of a gamble. More of a low risk, high reward. If he continues to be a head case you can just cut him. He'd likely sign for cheap.

vnzla81
08-07-2012, 03:43 PM
20 and 10 for sure.

QuickRelease
08-07-2012, 03:58 PM
20 and 10 for sure.
Who? Blatche or Greene?

ColeTheMole
08-07-2012, 04:02 PM
I hope they don't sign him for the simple reason that when talking about Green I don't have to clarify "Gerald".

vnzla81
08-07-2012, 04:19 PM
Both ;)

Ace E.Anderson
08-07-2012, 04:22 PM
Both ;)


They probably wont even average 20 and 10....COMBINED :laugh:

imawhat
08-08-2012, 09:19 AM
I can't say I've seen Donte play a lot considering he's been trapped in a place that makes Indiana look like the Showtime Lakers by comparison, but his production looks pretty terrible. He's like a really bad shooting guard stuck in a really bad power forward's body. Not impressive at all, and after four years in the league, I don't even think the "P" word still applies all that much.



There's been talk both the Heat and -- especially -- the Spurs have interest in him.

Spurs Nation Report: Spurs interested in Blatche (http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2012/08/04/report-spurs-interested-in-blatche/)

If he's good enough for those teams, surely he's good enough for us, no? I'd take a chance on someone who's proven to be talented, if immature, over a proven bum like Greene. I'm optimistic that getting out of that cesspool in Washington and being put in an environment with guys like David West, Roy Hibbert, Danny Granger, Frank Vogel, Brian Shaw, etc., will help him get his head screwed on right.

Blatche plays like a SG stuck in a C's body.

PR07
08-08-2012, 10:17 AM
No thanks on Blatche. If we supposedly got rid of Dahntay Jones partly because of locker room concerns, what makes anyone think we'll take on Blatche?

xtacy
08-08-2012, 10:28 AM
No thanks on Blatche. If we supposedly got rid of Dahntay Jones partly because of locker room concerns, what makes anyone think we'll take on Blatche?

did i miss something? what locker room concerns?

pacers74
08-08-2012, 11:40 AM
I hope they don't sign him for the simple reason that when talking about Green I don't have to clarify "Gerald".

Then if you say GG for Gerald, then you can't say DG for Donte, DG is Danny. You would have to spell out too many names.

PR07
08-08-2012, 12:30 PM
did i miss something? what locker room concerns?

Mike Wells commented earlier this offseason that part of the reason the Pacers' brass wanted to move Dahntay Jones was because he was becoming a negative influence on Paul George and Lance Stephenson. I don't have a link on it, but it was said.

Pacer Fan
08-08-2012, 12:41 PM
I think I'd rather take a cheap non guarantee contract on Ivan Johnson, yea I know he has issues but Pacers can send him packing if he screws up the first time. Ivan is a beast and fits the mold of smash mouth. Just to send him out there in the playoffs to lay a really big one on Lebron would be worth 600k... jk, no i'm not...;)

rel
08-08-2012, 12:50 PM
Mike Wells commented earlier this offseason that part of the reason the Pacers' brass wanted to move Dahntay Jones was because he was becoming a negative influence on Paul George and Lance Stephenson. I don't have a link on it, but it was said.

wow...hmmm, seemed like the complete opposite. DJ seemed like a great teammate/mentor

Sparhawk
08-08-2012, 01:00 PM
wow...hmmm, seemed like the complete opposite. DJ seemed like a great teammate/mentor

Yeah, that's what I thought too.

vnzla81
08-08-2012, 01:04 PM
wow...hmmm, seemed like the complete opposite. DJ seemed like a great teammate/mentor

Yep Wells reported that that was the reason why they moved him.

Pacer Fan
08-08-2012, 01:08 PM
Mike Wells commented earlier this offseason that part of the reason the Pacers' brass wanted to move Dahntay Jones was because he was becoming a negative influence on Paul George and Lance Stephenson. I don't have a link on it, but it was said.

Unless something happened that I'm just not aware of. DJ wasn't the problem. Lance was a problem, Lance saying some shiot in the huddle and it carried on into the locker room. Nothing negative from DJ, except DJ wanting to kick Lance's ahole! This also wasn't last year, but the year before where their was multiple issues going on with other players as well.

TOP
08-08-2012, 04:18 PM
I wasn't aware that a guy who averaged 13 ppg and shot in the low 40% as a post player would be anyone's best player. How sad is that.

What numbers are you looking at?

Cousins averaged 18.1pts 11.0rebs 1.6asts 1.5stls 1.2blks while shooting 45% this past season.

What's sad is judging a player while using the wrong statistics...



Also, he'd probably shoot a higher percentage of his team ranked higher than 26th in assists. Not that 45% is bad for a 21 year old.

BornReady
08-08-2012, 08:01 PM
I'm a biased Syracuse fan, so I'd be ecstatic if we picked up Donte Greene :D

PR07
08-09-2012, 12:22 AM
Unless something happened that I'm just not aware of. DJ wasn't the problem. Lance was a problem, Lance saying some shiot in the huddle and it carried on into the locker room. Nothing negative from DJ, except DJ wanting to kick Lance's ahole! This also wasn't last year, but the year before where their was multiple issues going on with other players as well.

I'm just reporting what Mike Wells had said. Whether it's true or not, I don't know, but I don't see why he would make something like that up.

Pacer Fan
08-09-2012, 08:40 AM
I'm just reporting what Mike Wells had said. Whether it's true or not, I don't know, but I don't see why he would make something like that up.

I'm not saying he didn't say it, but I never heard it and I don't miss to much. Can you post his quote instead of just saying he said this. If he said this on the radio then I wouldn't put much credence to it cause Mike gets tongue twisted all to often at times and has been known to be incorrect on references to players names. He's a much better writer then speaker.

xIndyFan
08-09-2012, 10:18 AM
IIRC, it was in the star. in the story about the trade. I'm too lazy to look it up for you. but i can tell you where to look if you want. but pr07 is telling you facts.





I'm not saying he didn't say it, but I never heard it and I don't miss to much. Can you post his quote instead of just saying he said this. If he said this on the radio then I wouldn't put much credence to it cause Mike gets tongue twisted all to often at times and has been known to be incorrect on references to players names. He's a much better writer then speaker.

DGPR
08-09-2012, 11:37 AM
I wonder what kind of contract we are offering Greene? He is young, and has talent so I wouldn't be opposed to getting him on the cheap.

pacergod2
08-09-2012, 12:32 PM
Donte Greene is long and can really stroke the three. The problem is he doesn't seem too intent on ever leaving the three point line to come inside the arc. I can't stand that aspect of players, but a lot of times it is what is asked of them within an offense too. But Greene is a long athletic shooter. Sporadic defense, I think mostly because he is much longer and not as quick as most of the guys he matches up against. He would, IMO be a backup SF who shouldn't log any minutes at PF. If I am the Pacers, I am looking at a cheap center like Fesenko to fill the 14th roster spot. We are good on guards/wings.

Tom White
08-09-2012, 12:42 PM
did i miss something? what locker room concerns?

I was going to ask the same thing. He always was a good team guy as far as I've ever heard.

Tom White
08-09-2012, 12:44 PM
Mike Wells commented earlier this offseason that part of the reason the Pacers' brass wanted to move Dahntay Jones was because he was becoming a negative influence on Paul George and Lance Stephenson. I don't have a link on it, but it was said.

Wow! I'd have to hear that to accept it. No offense intended to you, by the way, just that the comment kind of shocks me.

Pacer Fan
08-09-2012, 12:55 PM
IIRC, it was in the star. in the story about the trade. I'm too lazy to look it up for you. but i can tell you where to look if you want. but pr07 is telling you facts.

Well, I just went through 7 articles from the Star and didn't read anything other then dumping Jones salary in the deal. Please get unlazy and provide such information. I really would like see this. Thanks

Ace E.Anderson
08-09-2012, 12:59 PM
IIRC, it was in the star. in the story about the trade. I'm too lazy to look it up for you. but i can tell you where to look if you want. but pr07 is telling you facts.

I thought he was on Grady and Big Joe when he said it. He didn't get into much detail and kind of said it in passing. Once I get to a computer I'll see if it's within one of the podcasts they have loaded up.

Idk if he'd answer but someone could easily ask him on twitter.

HC
08-09-2012, 02:15 PM
I've listened to some of the podcasts, and the only thing I've heard is on the 7/12 podcast. Mike mentions that Dahntay's biggest contribution to the team was being able to have funny conversations in the locker room.

Ace E.Anderson
08-09-2012, 02:38 PM
I've listened to some of the podcasts, and the only thing I've heard is on the 7/12 podcast. Mike mentions that Dahntay's biggest contribution to the team was being able to have funny conversations in the locker room.

Sorry I stand corrected. However I DO remember that it was when Wells was ON the show. He, Conrad, and Grady were talking about the trade following Rick Carlisle being a guest. It's not a podcast due to the fact it wasn't during an interview segment.

I'm 100% positive this info was within one of the older threads from last month (Mahinmi to the pacers, etc)

Heisenberg
08-09-2012, 02:40 PM
Sorry I stand corrected. However I DO remember that it was when Wells was ON the show. He, Conrad, and Grady were talking about the trade following Rick Carlisle being a guest. It's not a podcast due to the fact it wasn't during an interview segment.

I'm 100% positive this info was within one of the older threads from last month (Mahinmi to the pacers, etc)I remember it too, you're correct. Wells did just say it kind of flippantly and didn't elaborate. Wells obviously has more insight into the lockerroom than I do, but it's surprising.